S-FM 242: The Coldest War

[Distorted]

keep reading =P @Spruance

he is no longer claiming survivor since he got CCed

[Distorted]

Both unknown and scv have said some very susp thing in this imo, and neither 1 of them have questioned eachother, but it seems they have questioned other people..

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And i already admitted it was a stupiud idea.

But if I had claimed, it would've worked. I'm not calling you stupid, I'm calling you not that pro-town.

[Spruance]

raw notes 1-10
efekannn02 - said good morning
has something special planned...

scvmurderer - light defense of me... interesting...

then yuki confirmed lurker and doesnt contribute (votes yuki)

idk perhaps something there

then voss votes yuki...
nawa
first post about vote count, then question to host

hybrid

whad first doesn't like voss

blink-promises to confront

RLVG - doesn't like scv

Unknown - believes Voss is obviously survivor

[Spruance]

11-18
yuki-townish
marsh-town
voss-townish
RLVG-playing as town... nothing new
hybrid-swears he commie

distorted-likes responding to posts

As for the bad guys, unknown sticks out at first glance

[Scvmurderer]

raw notes 1-10
efekannn02 - said good morning
has something special planned...

scvmurderer - light defense of me... interesting...

then yuki confirmed lurker and doesnt contribute (votes yuki)

idk perhaps something there

then voss votes yuki...
nawa
first post about vote count, then question to host

hybrid

whad first doesn't like voss

blink-promises to confront

RLVG - doesn't like scv

Unknown - believes Voss is obviously survivor

RLVG doesnt like me?!?!?
@RLVG is it true?

[Distorted]

11-18
yuki-townish
marsh-town
voss-townish
RLVG-playing as town... nothing new
hybrid-swears he commie

distorted-likes responding to posts

As for the bad guys, unknown sticks out at first glance

I do

[Scvmurderer]

But if I had claimed, it would've worked. I'm not calling you stupid, I'm calling you not that pro-town.

With no counters i can becfairly confident. This isnt the mod where we have to get ppl to confirm.

[RLVG]

RLVG doesnt like me?!?!?
@RLVG is it true?

As true as a Π in a π.

[Scvmurderer]

As true as a Π in a π.

!!

[Voss]

Not buying it. TBH this is great play for the SK to identify a survivor to avoid killing the one person that he can win with.

Lynch Voss. He must die for his lies. I think it looks bad that he's using my reaction (of pointing out a lie) to push ME as today's lynch target. You don't kill off the townies that are looking for the truth.

Ah yes, ignore any of the quantifiable positive contributions I've made today, and just tether on my survivor claim.

Whad:
"I think it looks bad that he's using my reaction (of pointing out a lie)"

What I actually said.

Again Whad, Please indicate what was scummy about my play style, BESIDES solely claiming survivor.I really wish I could have made you answer this question before Hybrid claimed

I'm looking at Whad for today's lynch partly because he latched on so hard for my survivor claim, and saw that something was up. I think he was trying to pull an easy mislynch along. He also falsely paints me as the driving force between Yuki, when there are other people that started the train, while I gave a reason on why I was voting him. Classic scum overblowing things to serve their purpose.

-vote Whad

I am not using your reaction of pointing out a lie. As said in this previous post, I started pushing you because you FALSELY said that I was pushing the Yuki train, and I take that to mean that you think I'm responsible for it. It's not about the reaction. It's false representation for an agenda.

You also conveniently forgot to say how my survivor claim was anti town, after I had asked. I executed what I wanted in a good way. I'm not arguing people should town read me for it, I'd just like people to take it as NAI, and read people based off how they interacted with my claim.

~~~

All Whad's been doing is pushing a 'OH HE'S SURVIVOR (OR NOT SURVIVOR) LETS LYNCH HIM.' Hasn't been doing anything else.

-vote Whad

reiterating the vote.

[Scvmurderer]

As true as a Π in a π.

I thought we connected on a spiritual level RLVG?

[Distorted]

!!

opinion on unknown? @Scvmurderer

[Yukitaka Oni]

-unvote

[Spruance]

Didn't Whad claim survivor?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Anyone want to check RLVG vibe? He seem pretty chilling because nobody put a pressure on him yet v)o.o)>?

[Voss]

Super tinfoil then, Whad is super confident about Voss because Whad is part of the mafia? In that scenario, Whad knows the mafia team members and naturally knows that the person isn't part of the mafia, so it's narrowed down to the neutrals if it's scum.

Just a science fiction theory

If Hybrid is really counter-claiming Fidel (and its true) then he just did the most PRO TOWN thing all game. and I will fully trust in him siding town all game.



Show me a post that HINTS that you are not surv. I believe if this was a plot to extract the real neutral benign you would have hinted it somewhere to SHOW us that you planned to reveal at some point.



Voss honestly, with a strategy like that you need to provide PROOF that you hinted somehow in a post that this was not a real claim, something to reference back to BEFORE this all became a thing.



This is supsicious now. I think hybrid has made it clear he is aligning town, he even counterclaimed which is a PRO-TOWN, literally best thing that has happened to town so far.

The best that I can come up with as a 'soft claim' is that I intentionally acted as an interested survivor, where as most people would expect survivors to either not claim, or claim and say IDC who wins. I still did things after my claim, and didn't use it as a waste of a day. AKA I didn't fuck off. If I were in your shoes, the only way I'd have thought what I did was scummy was if I did this on another day, and detracted from the day.

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Also, without my claim there would have been no reason for Hybrid to claim, and now we (know?) that we have a town siding neutral, as long we don't fuck up.
~~

PSS. The way I play IRL games, and you'll just have to take my word on it, sorry, is that I make some sort of claim, usually false, and see how people respond to it. Then I can begin to sort people into town/mafia.

Let's talk about Whad guys.

[Voss]

Didn't Whad claim survivor?

no, he just shaded me for it. I claimed and retracted. IT appears that Hybrid is our Fidel

[Spruance]

Tbh I don't see Voss gaining anything for claiming survivor as mafia unless he wanted this exact situation to play out which I suppose is possible but it seems a little bit too risky for a shorter game.

[Voss]

Anyone want to check RLVG vibe? He seem pretty chilling because nobody put a pressure on him yet v)o.o)>?

I'll chime in on him.

AGain, I liked his first post about town strat, but he hasn't really been useful after.

Also, his latest post about Whad being mafia is a word play, slip thing that even if true, I don't like using it. However, he hasn't commented much on Whad and me, and I think he's been around.

[Spruance]

Hello everybody I am finally here!

I don't think RLVG is scummy but let me just place a vote on him and leave.
But when no one responds to his trolling he comes back 25 minutes later and makes another provocative statement

-vote RLVG

This seems a little too obvious for him to actually be scum

[Spruance]

Oops the but when no one responds should be outside the quote xd

[Distorted]

Spruance and Nawa pretty much posted the same thing (update on who voted who and some soft reads on Spruance's part). I have a feeling scum is just delaying (due to no pressure on them) and waiting for the night to start formulating strategies.

Also Voss, finding the survivor day 1 is a scum tactic to avoid killing someone who can potentially be a vital first 4th vote with them. It is a town tactic as well, but there is benefits to both ends on finding the survivor; so I do not see that move as pro-town, because you removed the opportunity for a scum potentially claiming survivor.

Anyways, if I was Vladimir I would open a chat with the survivor and keep a chain going.

also, do we have LWs in this? if so how do they work?

[Voss]

Oops the but when no one responds should be outside the quote xd

what?

[Spruance]

Spruance and Nawa pretty much posted the same thing (update on who voted who and some soft reads on Spruance's part). I have a feeling scum is just delaying (due to no pressure on them) and waiting for the night to start formulating strategies.

Also Voss, finding the survivor day 1 is a scum tactic to avoid killing someone who can potentially be a vital first 4th vote with them. It is a town tactic as well, but there is benefits to both ends on finding the survivor; so I do not see that move as pro-town, because you removed the opportunity for a scum potentially claiming survivor.

Anyways, if I was Vladimir I would open a chat with the survivor and keep a chain going.

also, do we have LWs in this? if so how do they work?

I'm slowly working myself into it I wouldn't put me on Nawa's level ):

[Spruance]

what?

I put my statement inside the quote instead of outside on accident

[Distorted]

-vote unvote

[Distorted]

-vote nawa

[Voss]

Spruance and Nawa pretty much posted the same thing (update on who voted who and some soft reads on Spruance's part). I have a feeling scum is just delaying (due to no pressure on them) and waiting for the night to start formulating strategies.

Also Voss, finding the survivor day 1 is a scum tactic to avoid killing someone who can potentially be a vital first 4th vote with them. It is a town tactic as well, but there is benefits to both ends on finding the survivor; so I do not see that move as pro-town, because you removed the opportunity for a scum potentially claiming survivor.

Anyways, if I was Vladimir I would open a chat with the survivor and keep a chain going.

also, do we have LWs in this? if so how do they work?

Since there are both scum and town pros for doing this, you'll just have to look at the way I did it, and the results I elicited. But I'll let this rest for now.

[Spruance]

And distorted you have to ask questions to the host in green fam.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Spruance and Nawa pretty much posted the same thing (update on who voted who and some soft reads on Spruance's part). I have a feeling scum is just delaying (due to no pressure on them) and waiting for the night to start formulating strategies.

Also Voss, finding the survivor day 1 is a scum tactic to avoid killing someone who can potentially be a vital first 4th vote with them. It is a town tactic as well, but there is benefits to both ends on finding the survivor; so I do not see that move as pro-town, because you removed the opportunity for a scum potentially claiming survivor.

Anyways, if I was Vladimir I would open a chat with the survivor and keep a chain going.

also, do we have LWs in this? if so how do they work?

Yes.
You can submit a LW whenever and as frequently as you like throughout the game. The most recent last will I have received will be the one posted if you die.

edit: Submission is via PM.

[Efekannn02]

D1 cit claim? *facepalm*

I never claimed ''cit'' on this Thread right now.

I Seriously Hope This Isn't A Fucking Hard Claim

Are You trying to Mock me?

Because you can't corrupt the hosts, just the mod with a dark magic called "-prefer"...

You underestimate me.
Btw You forgot -ban ''roles'' I use that too

inb4 efe cces you

Why would I Counterclaim like this?

Oh yeah, this guy exists. I forgot that xD

More seriously, why would a scum claim Trotsky? It's so dumb lol...

Dumb or Great Plan? You decide because its not affecting me.

cuz he s efe

So what? (no need to answer this i already know the answer hehe)

... @Efekannn02

Hybrid's reasoning:

A scum who claims Trotsky is dumb

Efekannn would claim trotsky as scum

So... Heh. Boooooo!!!

Sadly his reasoning on this about me is false for this Game.

efe aint stpid, he s just insane or a big genius

Both

Hybrid pleads insanity for his client. Your Honor, is Efekannn02 a great worker having a busy real life, or is he a capitalist lurker? The debate is open!

Same for Whad.

None of them but im just a ''Soviet Worker'' for this Game

[Distorted]

Is there LW's in this? if so how do we use them?

[Spruance]

Is there LW's in this? if so how do we use them?

lol he answered your question already get with the program ! xd

[Iced_Monopoly]

Is there LW's in this? if so how do we use them?

Yes.
You can submit a LW whenever and as frequently as you like throughout the game. The most recent last will I have received will be the one posted if you die.

edit: Submission is via PM.

^^

[Scvmurderer]

opinion on unknown? @Scvmurderer

He's a shitposter and can only post one liners it seems. HUGE contrast from his last game.

[Distorted]

I am slanting towards a lynch to anyone who is not contributing or giving information. It strongly makes me believe they are waiting for night chat to talk with mafia to find out what kind of claims they should be prepared to do.

-Nawa
-Spruance
-Unknown honestly usually pops in a lot more than he is now I want to hear more from him. I also agree with SCV, his style is a lot different this time, but to be fair last time he was top scum... But I feel he would be pushing for more info day 1 as well to try to narrow what the mafia will be able to do.
-Blink your playing somewhat more reserved right now as well.
-Voss, other than that survivor incident I don't see you pushing at many other people.

[Spruance]

Was there no night 0 night chat?

[Voss]

I am slanting towards a lynch to anyone who is not contributing or giving information. It strongly makes me believe they are waiting for night chat to talk with mafia to find out what kind of claims they should be prepared to do.

-Nawa
-Spruance
-Unknown honestly usually pops in a lot more than he is now I want to hear more from him. I also agree with SCV, his style is a lot different this time, but to be fair last time he was top scum... But I feel he would be pushing for more info day 1 as well to try to narrow what the mafia will be able to do.
-Blink your playing somewhat more reserved right now as well.
-Voss, other than that survivor incident I don't see you pushing at many other people.

I've built my case for Whad. What do you want me to do, push multiple people? The way I see it, other people need to convince me that I need to lay off Whad and go for someone else. I'll do this naturally when day gets closer to being over, because I'm not going to sit here and spam 'whad is scum' like the mod.

Here's a summary of what you've done:
- Force me to use my survivor heat ability D1. (I don't see you doing much of that right now)
- Saying scum are "lying low".
- Call out RLVG on his tactice (i think this is town points)

I'm not scum reading you for it, but don't say I'm not contributing or giving information. I'm #1 in d1 quality content generation.

[Voss]

I've built my case for Whad. What do you want me to do, push multiple people? The way I see it, other people need to convince me that I need to lay off Whad and go for someone else. I'll do this naturally when day gets closer to being over, because I'm not going to sit here and spam 'whad is scum' like the mod.

Here's a summary of what you've done:
- Force me to use my survivor heat ability D1. (I don't see you doing much of that right now)
- Saying scum are "lying low".
- Call out RLVG on his tactice (i think this is town points)

I'm not scum reading you for it, but don't say I'm not contributing or giving information. I'm #1 in d1 quality content generation.

Also distorted, going after quiet people d1 is something I usually do, so I can respect that. I'll happily vote a lurker if Whad gets no traction.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Was there no night 0 night chat?

No. Mafia chat is available only during the night phase, and from N1 and onwards.

[Unknown1234]

@Unknown1234

What do you think about @Scvmurderer ?


@Scvmurderer What do you think about @Unknown1234 ?

I’m voting him. But I kinda need to catch up more so I will update that thought eventually.

[Unknown1234]

11-18
yuki-townish
marsh-town
voss-townish
RLVG-playing as town... nothing new
hybrid-swears he commie

distorted-likes responding to posts

As for the bad guys, unknown sticks out at first glance

I missed you too <3

[Unknown1234]

Both unknown and scv have said some very susp thing in this imo, and neither 1 of them have questioned eachother, but it seems they have questioned other people..

I’m voting him. What do you mean?

[Unknown1234]

Also weekends usually suck for me so yes I am inactive but no that’s not because I’m scum. I wouldn’t have claimed either, I don’t do that when I’m scum.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am a big proponent of Lynch All Liars because townies pulling gambits is bad for the town. Like policy lynch, Voss needs to go.

But also I suspect Voss of being the SK because outing the survivor is heavily sk sided.

Uhm. There's a difference between making a fake TPR claim as citizen, hold it all game long then reveal you're just citizen at last day, and fake claim Castro (Remember it's not a normal survivor, he can help town or help scums very effectively) to get the real one revealed. I see his action as very pro-town. The only reason there would be to not 100% trust him (Which I don't) is that he could be mastermind scum gaining town points. I really don't think Voss is Stalin.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Okay I finished skimming. A lot going on for day 1... First impression is that I don't agree with lynching Voss today, though you're right to me he's 50% survivor 30% citizen 20% mafia. Hard to see Voss claiming if he was survivor but no counterclaims (yet) and he seems to be trying a bit too hard as a survivor.

I'm gonna sell you the punch of the game: Voss is not surv XD he WIFOM'd hardcore to get Hybrid the real Castro (survivor if u want) revealed.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Speaking of Болтология, @Nawa where you at? what do you feel about this game so far and your reads on people.

Agreed. And what's %$/%?$"/?/ ?????

☺☻

[Unknown1234]

Hm, If voss is not the neut and hybrid is, then we lynch him. The dont let neutrals live thing still stands.

-vote Hybrid

SCV is acting really anti-Town by focusing hard on Voss and Hybrid, the neutral claims, for the entirety of Day 1. I get a similar impression from Whad to.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This seems a little too obvious for him to actually be scum

This is a joke from the last game, NAI.