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  1. #3121

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury View Post
    Maybe I worded it poorly, but playing every game with mass role claims degenerates the games.

    Don't believe me, check out mafia scum newbie section. A person who did that every game was stopped from signing up eventually.
    guess that makes sense; every game would just start the same. This was my first FM game that actually had roles and nights in it, so im still adjusting to wtf to do here lol. On the mod when im out of ideas or no leads i just start collecting roles.

  2. #3122

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    guess that makes sense; every game would just start the same. This was my first FM game that actually had roles and nights in it, so im still adjusting to wtf to do here lol. On the mod when im out of ideas or no leads i just start collecting roles.
    It's fine to do sometimes for sure. Just don't do it every game. I do the same thing in the mod, anyways.
    I'm FloodingRain on sc2, sorry for the confusion <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury
    Who the hell quotes themselves in their own signature?

  3. #3123

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Lol, I managed to get Yukiini lynched.
    After the flip, I figured that it more or less came to me being a scum so I did as Voss said - "wolfing" - so that I could at least get a followup mislynch while trying to give Nawa/Fury the towncred.

    I was hoping that I'd screw with everyone enough that Voss would not get lynched later on, but that failed.

    Just mentioning this, it is a valid scum tactic to "ignore" someone to make that person in particular look scummy, which I find amusing that none considered.
    It's my form of reverse bussing.

    Also, Hybrid could've just helped us and actually won this game earlier. I did say that if he goes too hard against us, we'll kill him - which we did.

  4. #3124

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Thank you to iced for hosting and to everyone for playing. I had a fun time. Up until the end I was kept guessing if we had it figured out or not.

    Re: fake castro claim: @Voss Was that so you would know who not to nightkill? (i.e. survivor) I still don't see how that's a good town move.

    Re: mass claiming, I think that setups with even numbers of citizens/TPRs (in this case 4&4) makes it a good strategy to mass claim role slot. You can find people scummy if they claim TPR, push a lynch against a fellow TPR claimer and then later retract their TPR claim, etc. With an even number of TPR/citizens then you can just pick the more heavily claimed category and lynch from that pool. And also it makes it possible to find scum via POE. In setups with a higher imbalance of citizens/TPR like 8 citizens and 1 cop, then it's obviously pointless for the cop to claim. People should design strategies designed to punish town for mass claiming, but it's not on the players for deciding to take advantage of a mass claim strategy if it will put the town at an advantage.
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  5. #3125

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury View Post
    Killed Hybrid last night. No win for you

    Unfortunate I subbed into a gamethrower's spot. Made it so that I could do nothing. So, the one thing I could do was kill the person who ruined the balance of the setup by hard siding town.

    I didn't see what happened in the first 55 pages, but mass role claims ruin balance and neutrals hard siding town does as well. Policy lynch that play, for the people who were there.
    Thanks, he once stated he didn't want me to win. YOU DESERVE THAT
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    omg... lol im sorry that you did that...... there is no hidden message, it was a direct copy paste..its 189,000 characters long, so trust me when I say - I am sorry for wasting that much time reading amino acid sequences.
    if there's a wolf on Ceme, I can get behind Tom, I basically townread everyone, Aba a bit less and Marsh has his special throne
    CHOO CHOO, THE DARK LORD HAS ARRIVED TO DESTROY THE SCUMS AND PURGE HERESY FROM THIS TOWN!

  6. #3126

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    Thank you to iced for hosting and to everyone for playing. I had a fun time. Up until the end I was kept guessing if we had it figured out or not.

    Re: fake castro claim: @Voss Was that so you would know who not to nightkill? (i.e. survivor) I still don't see how that's a good town move.

    Re: mass claiming, I think that setups with even numbers of citizens/TPRs (in this case 4&4) makes it a good strategy to mass claim role slot. You can find people scummy if they claim TPR, push a lynch against a fellow TPR claimer and then later retract their TPR claim, etc. With an even number of TPR/citizens then you can just pick the more heavily claimed category and lynch from that pool. And also it makes it possible to find scum via POE. In setups with a higher imbalance of citizens/TPR like 8 citizens and 1 cop, then it's obviously pointless for the cop to claim. People should design strategies designed to punish town for mass claiming, but it's not on the players for deciding to take advantage of a mass claim strategy if it will put the town at an advantage.
    Yeah I agree with that about mass claiming. Btw I didn't read anything of the 150 pages after my death, too long :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    omg... lol im sorry that you did that...... there is no hidden message, it was a direct copy paste..its 189,000 characters long, so trust me when I say - I am sorry for wasting that much time reading amino acid sequences.
    if there's a wolf on Ceme, I can get behind Tom, I basically townread everyone, Aba a bit less and Marsh has his special throne
    CHOO CHOO, THE DARK LORD HAS ARRIVED TO DESTROY THE SCUMS AND PURGE HERESY FROM THIS TOWN!

  7. #3127

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Lol, I managed to get Yukiini lynched.
    After the flip, I figured that it more or less came to me being a scum so I did as Voss said - "wolfing" - so that I could at least get a followup mislynch while trying to give Nawa/Fury the towncred.

    I was hoping that I'd screw with everyone enough that Voss would not get lynched later on, but that failed.

    Just mentioning this, it is a valid scum tactic to "ignore" someone to make that person in particular look scummy, which I find amusing that none considered.
    It's my form of reverse bussing.

    Also, Hybrid could've just helped us and actually won this game earlier. I did say that if he goes too hard against us, we'll kill him - which we did.
    I always misread you... Now I'm gonna apply the Mesk Procedure to you: read you, then take my read and vote as if I had the exactly opposite read xD
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    omg... lol im sorry that you did that...... there is no hidden message, it was a direct copy paste..its 189,000 characters long, so trust me when I say - I am sorry for wasting that much time reading amino acid sequences.
    if there's a wolf on Ceme, I can get behind Tom, I basically townread everyone, Aba a bit less and Marsh has his special throne
    CHOO CHOO, THE DARK LORD HAS ARRIVED TO DESTROY THE SCUMS AND PURGE HERESY FROM THIS TOWN!

  8. #3128

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    I, for one, enjoyed reading this game. I was so prepared to multiquote all of Distorted's posts about a replacement not reading the thread.
    Heh, good thing Fury subbed in instead of me at the end. I kinda hate straight up losing after subbing in.

    Had I not been super busy during the first night, I probably would have subbed in. Sorry Iced!
    I hope to play you all in an upcoming game.

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    I think Voss played particularly well this game. Whilst I personally had him as scum from day 1, not everyone comes to the same conclusions the same way I do, and he managed to escape being seen as a threat early on. And while he did make the mistake of voting Spruance, everything else he did looked very town to most people.

    I found it particularly amazing that he managed to do "analysis" while not.
    Good job Voss!

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  10. #3130

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    Heh, good thing Fury subbed in instead of me at the end. I kinda hate straight up losing after subbing in.
    I don't like it either, but I'm happy knowing it wasn't my fault. Though, I was able to get my jollies off by killing Hybrid. Lmao. Worth it.
    I'm FloodingRain on sc2, sorry for the confusion <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury
    Who the hell quotes themselves in their own signature?

  11. #3131

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    @Whad
    Castro claiming was pro town and pro scum and pro neutral. At the time, I thought Survivor could use his heat action and if town said GIVE ME A GUN, survivor could just be like NO i'm a HEAT. TOWN LOSES. But town totally had that leverage, and failed to use it... But no, I did that to get a good day 1 going, for the fact itself. I would have done that as town, and would do that if we ever replayed this setup.

    @Distorted
    If you ever do a mass claim in a game where it's not appropriate, I will lynch you for it. I should have stuck to my gun, but I'm afraid of getting policy lynched for policy lynching.

    @secondpassing
    I tried playing that game 100% like I would as town. There are only a few times that I think I slipped on, and my toeing that line didn't help me. I could have went 100% like I would as town, like end game, not ever giving up, but I think I gave up some pushes I could have done that would have helped mafia team, if not me personally.

    @Fury
    I enjoyed that we saw eye to eye on the Hybrid situation. And I'm sad @Hybrid didn't want to win.

    What do people think of blinkskater's play of unvoting me? (Tag me if you do actually respond to my question or something, I won't be checking this thread otherwise)

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  12. #3132

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    S-FM The Coldest War

    Quick links
    Setup
    Day One
    Night One
    Day Two
    Night Two
    Day Three
    Night Three
    Day Four
    Night Four
    Day Five
    Night Five


    End of Game

    Fury has been murdered, he was President Truman
    Hybrid has been murdered, he was Fidel Castro




    The TOWN has won
    Congratulations to SCVMurderer, Efekannn02, Marshmallow Marshall, Distorted, Yukitaka Oni, Spruance, Unknown1234, and Whad. Please keep post game chat civil.

    Player Status Role
    SCVMurderer Dead Soviet Worker
    Hybrid Dead Fidel Castro
    Efekannn02 Alive Soviet Worker
    RLVG Dead JFK
    Voss Dead Nixon
    Marshmallow Marshall Dead Leon Trotsky
    Blinkskater Dead Joseph Stalin
    Fury Dead President Truman
    Distorted Alive Soviet Worker
    Yukitaka Oni Dead Premier Security Service
    Spruance Dead KGB Agent
    Unknown1234 Alive Soviet Worker
    Whad Dead Vladimir Lenin

    Reserves
    SecondPassing
    Rumox

    @Scvmurderer , @Hybrid , @Efekannn02 , @RLVG , @Voss , @Marshmallow Marshall , @blinkskater , @Fury , @Distorted , @Yukitaka Oni , @Spruance , @Unknown1234 , @Whad

    Night Actions Google Doc
    Mafia Chat
    Lenin Chat
    Dead Chat
    Hm...game last through 2 more days since the day I’m worked? Doesn’t matter, could have guess myself being killed soon either by mafia or town lynch for being afk long. Already know mafia, still. Loyalty to RLVG above all


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  13. #3133

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    It was a pretty unfair game for town anyway, RLVG Voss and Fury/Nawa at the scum team at the same time while town has all those news except for whad unknown and yuki which yuki was afking the whole game? I ve no regrets but the only thing that MM will be suprassing me on the ladder thing.
    Also I didn't want a scum to win with that poor "I m surv" claim on the start? What is that, I ve never believed you were a town but since you were pretty good while i didnt read the game i oculdnt have done anything with survivor act.

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  16. #3136

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Also I woulda help mafia if RLVG wasn't been a douchebag, voss wasnt afk while i was asking to him and nawa not to be obv mafia. I was pretty sure he wasn t mafia when he didnt get replaced. Such a jerk game we had I hope we were not to have that kind of game again.
    Glad town won just because I didn't like the attendment of roles to people.
    gg

  17. #3137

    Re: S-FM The Coldest War

    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    Also I woulda help mafia if RLVG wasn't been a douchebag, voss wasnt afk while i was asking to him and nawa not to be obv mafia. I was pretty sure he wasn t mafia when he didnt get replaced. Such a jerk game we had I hope we were not to have that kind of game again.
    Glad town won just because I didn't like the attendment of roles to people.
    gg
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