S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

[Mesk514]

Meek said it herself earlier. This is a training game and roles were assigned to more senior people. So she knew by having blink guess nawa that nawa was probably not going to be given a tpr role.

It’s possible that the two masons are the only tpr in game.

Either way there was at minimum 4 citizens in game if this theory is true. That means they had a 1 and 4 chance of getting it right. If you remove me and sb that only leaves aa naz nawa and mm as potentials to claim citizen. Knowing nawa will go with who buddies him/her they picked nawa.

When you think about it, actually deeply think about it. It’s jot far fetched. And this could explain why we could day chat confirm.

roles were not assigned to more senior people. what kind of bullshit are you pulling out of you ass now. don't forget to wipe.

[Mesk514]

waiting for AAs marvellous explanation as to how sb was able to vote me and still be my partner.

this should be good.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Would scum be able to pm you to find out the set up of possible masons at the beginning of game? Or would that be crossing a line?

Questions can be pmd to host or made in game, either form is acceptable

[blinkskater]

Dam everyones a sheep gg sorry town

[Mesk514]

Dam everyones a sheep gg sorry town

don't apologize. ptb saw early on he wouldn't be able to pray on you, so he prayed on the weaker.

[Aardvarks Bark]

hahaha that's actually a really clever play! Good work.

that was my one and only vote I've ever done on this site and it was a week ago. how is asking how to vote some clever plot? I'm absolutely calling your bluff.

[PowersThatBe]

Questions can be pmd to host or made in game, either form is acceptable

I meant would scum be allowed to ask role specific questions about other roles not confirmed in set up.

[Mesk514]

hahaha that's actually a really clever play! Good work.

that was my one and only vote I've ever done on this site and it was a week ago. how is asking how to vote some clever plot? I'm absolutely calling your bluff.

so now you think he's throwing. omg

[Aardvarks Bark]

Yeah alright your dumb plan worked now I'm paranoid. Can teammates not vote for each other or do they just not count as a hammer on each other

[PowersThatBe]

Yeah alright your dumb plan worked now I'm paranoid. Can teammates not vote for each other or do they just not count as a hammer on each other

Teammates can’t be on a train when hammer comes down. Or else it’s game throwing

[blinkskater]

So whats it gonna be aardvark finish it allready

[Mesk514]

So whats it gonna be aardvark finish it allready

don't tell him to finish it already.

Scum cannot be on the train if their teammate is lynched.

[Aardvarks Bark]

Teammates can’t be on a train when hammer comes down. Or else it’s game throwing

So then stealth isn't taking any risk at all by voting for Mesk if they're both mafia since the game can't end with his vote on her?

Am I understanding correctly

[PowersThatBe]

don't tell him to finish it already.

Scum cannot be on the train if their teammate is lynched.

Well they can it would just be game throw

[PowersThatBe]

So then stealth isn't taking any risk at all by voting for Mesk if they're both mafia since the game can't end with his vote on her?

Am I understanding correctly

Game can end, but only by your vote. If he’s her teammate he’s betting you won’t vote her and then he’d say your her mate, and force you to vote me to prove it and then he’d hammer

[Aardvarks Bark]

so it's not a rules thing it's just a made up thing

[Aardvarks Bark]

I don't get it Mesk, what's the plan? Say this worked somehow what's the plan after that?

[Mesk514]

So then stealth isn't taking any risk at all by voting for Mesk if they're both mafia since the game can't end with his vote on her?

Am I understanding correctly

if he doesn't remove his vote by the time i see rope, it would be game throwing. he cannot be on my train at all.

[PowersThatBe]

so it's not a rules thing it's just a made up thing

You can vote your teammate.

In none one lynch games you can even lynch your teammate, it’s called bussing

[Aardvarks Bark]

if he doesn't remove his vote by the time i see rope, it would be game throwing. he cannot be on my train at all.

because he IS your teammate

[Mesk514]

I don't get it Mesk, what's the plan? Say this worked somehow what's the plan after that?

the plan is to now try and appeal to MM, who was so convinced both you and stealth were town.

and it is a rule, everyone is punished for game throwing.

[Mesk514]

YOU CAN VOTE YOUR TEAMMATES, YOU CANNOT BE ON YOUR TEAMMATES TRAIN IF THEYRE LYNCHED. THAT IS THROWING. IT IS A WRITTEN RULE

[Mesk514]

because he IS your teammate

omg please get your head out of your ass. he is not my teammate. he just put me at l-1, if he's my teammate, that too is throwing.

[PowersThatBe]

the plan is to now try and appeal to MM, who was so convinced both you and stealth were town.

and it is a rule, everyone is punished for game throwing.

Only if you’re confirmed teammates

[Aardvarks Bark]

hahahaha and I was worried this would be boring

[Aardvarks Bark]

if he doesn't remove his vote by the time i see rope, it would be game throwing. he cannot be on my train at all.

This thing you just said is true if and only if stealth is your teammate

[PowersThatBe]

hahahaha and I was worried this would be boring

Lol. Vote me if you wanna leave it up to chance.

Or win game for town and lynch mesk who is scum playing a high stakes game

[PowersThatBe]

This thing you just said is true if and only if stealth is your teammate

Other options are mm or blink

[Mesk514]

This thing you just said is true if and only if stealth is your teammate

EXACTLY, BUT HE'S NOT. HE'S ON MY TRAIN. SO PLEASE TELL ME NOW WHO YOU THINK MY PARTNER IS

[Aardvarks Bark]

It's stealth.

[PowersThatBe]

EXACTLY, BUT HE'S NOT. HE'S ON MY TRAIN. SO PLEASE TELL ME NOW WHO YOU THINK MY PARTNER IS

Caged animal. Using town font again.

[PowersThatBe]

It's stealth.

Then call them on their bullshit and vote her

[Iced_Monopoly]

I meant would scum be allowed to ask role specific questions about other roles not confirmed in set up.

Any player can ask any questions regarding any aspects of the game or setup via pm or in thread. This is a rather generic rule and is in effect unless stated otherwise.

[Mesk514]

It's stealth.

you're an absolute idiot. if it's stealth, he is currently throwing.

[PowersThatBe]

Any player can ask any questions regarding any aspects of the game or setup via pm or in thread. This is a rather generic rule and is in effect unless stated otherwise.

Ok then. I guess that proves me wrong

[Aardvarks Bark]

you're an absolute idiot. if it's stealth, he is currently throwing.

He's not throwing he just wants me to think he is cus I said that the only way you can be mafia is if he's your teammate

[Mesk514]

He's not throwing he just wants me to think he is cus I said that the only way you can be mafia is if he's your teammate

putting me at l-1, is throwing.

[Mesk514]

putting me at l-1, is throwing.

if he's my teammate.

[PowersThatBe]

putting me at l-1, is throwing.

No it’s not lol

[Aardvarks Bark]

Then call them on their bullshit and vote her

if I'm wrong and you're actually the mafia I'm gonna look like an idiot lol

[Mesk514]

there is no scenario where a teammate could bus their their teammate and put them to l-1 and it not being gamethrowing.

[Mesk514]

if I'm wrong and you're actually the mafia I'm gonna look like an idiot lol

you already do. trust me.

[PowersThatBe]

if I'm wrong and you're actually the mafia I'm gonna look like an idiot lol

I’m not so you won’t! If you let them get away you’ll look like an idiot.

Trust your gut.

[PowersThatBe]

there is no scenario where a teammate could bus their their teammate and put them to l-1 and it not being gamethrowing.

That’s not bussing. It’s only if he doesn’t move his vote in time.
If sb16 is your teammate

[Aardvarks Bark]

How do I vote?

[Mesk514]

again, there is no way a scum can buss and put their teammate to l-1 and it not be considered game throwing.

[PowersThatBe]

How do I vote?

Lol stop it

[Aardvarks Bark]

Just kidding,

-vote mesk514

[The Godfather]

Mesk514 has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


PowersThatBe (3 [L-2]): Mesk514, Nawa, blinkskater
Mesk514 (5 [L-0]): PowersThatBe, Marshmallow Marshall, naz, Aardvarks Bark, Stealthbomber16

[Iced_Monopoly]

GAME OVER
The Mafia has Won

Mesk514 was lynched, she was a solo MASON
Congratulations to PowersThatBe and Naz on their win against the town!

Blinkskater was our sheriff detecting nawa, with everyone else taking up citizen slots.

General notes on the game - I hope for the town, especially MM, you can take away from this game that host meta and setup meta are terrible terrible TERRIBLE methods to base your accusations on. No role is confirmed, and there is no guarantee that a setup has to follow your own preconceived notions or expectations.

In regards to the solo mason, the setup really demanded it IMO. Counter-claiming masons from a scum team is a pretty generic play, and to put a pair of town masons into the game would have led to a really boring 2v2. Inserting any other TPR would have led to an imbalance in favour of town if also coupled with masons. And without masons, there would be nobody to CC a scum claim on them, which would lead to an imbalanced scum game. Therefore the setup ended up with a solo mason existing to CC any scum mason claims, and a sheriff to allow the town some footing to build off of. Unfortunately for town, PTB was successfully able to convince enough players that a solo mason would be unlikely, and built that into his own narrative to arrive at a win for his team.

In regards to the insults being thrown around this game, it was over the line from a number of parties. Future games will not be operating in this manner, and any and all players will be punished to the full extent of the guidelines, including bans on future signups.

Other than that im quite happy with the battle between the 'big kids' - as this wasn't a ladder game, I took the liberty in hand picking the roles and the players who filled them. My intent was to provide a game where newer players could experience how night less games and scum hunting without actions operates, without the pressure of being targeted themselves. This method is not employed in regular ladder games, and is in fact strictly prohibited, so please don't go into future games and lynch players based on their experience or on who is hosting.

Thanks again to everyone for playing, and hopefully we'll see you in the two new games currently on the signups page.