Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

[Efekannn02]

I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?

[Nawa]

I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?

yeah letz do this

[Elixir]

I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?

Link to the thread? I'm skeptical this is the only reason a punishment would be handed down.

[Efekannn02]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-8198926

[Elixir]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-8198926

A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

Highlighting relevant points:

Previous Offenses
Efekannn:
Griefing & Intentional Gamethrowing (Watch-list x4)
Cheating/Additional Information (Watch-list x3)

He sets a LW claiming intent to throw the game, and cursing whoever killed him

And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

Additional Notes:
I find sufficient evidence to support the griefing claim, but he ultimately did play to win and did so. The ban will be lifted at next update.

And it was overturned anyway lol.

I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel

[Stealthbomber16]

A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

Highlighting relevant points:



And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

And it was overturned anyway lol.

I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel

holy shit
efe just got fucking terminated

[Efekannn02]

holy shit
efe just got fucking terminated

Not Really

[Efekannn02]

A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

Highlighting relevant points:



And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

And it was overturned anyway lol.

I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel

Well Uhm Fine...

[PowersThatBe]

A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

Highlighting relevant points:



And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

And it was overturned anyway lol.

I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel

With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

But thats my take.
@Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.

[Efekannn02]

With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

But thats my take.
@Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.

Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?

[PowersThatBe]

Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?

Because people make mistakes when interpreting the rules. Arrow fixed it.

I agree you shouldn't have been punished at all.

As you cant really in good faith grief someone who is outside of your faction, and openly admits they're outside of your faction.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?

The staff is human. Humans make errors. The fact is: the staff is really good because errors don't happen often. And to be fair, you deserved it for all the borderline gamethrowing, for circumventing rules with obvious intent to do it, and for making several games trash.


Another thing. You technically can get infracted for lynching a NB if it clearly harms your team's winning chances, and if you have shown intent of harming them. It's possible, but very rare (Unless you guilty a jester you know he is, and that you're mafia or something like that...)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

But thats my take.
@Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.

If his last will had intent to throw, and with a big history (hey its efekannn, do you ever play the mod?), well that's the reason he got banned for one little week...

[PowersThatBe]

If his last will had intent to throw, and with a big history (hey its efekannn, do you ever play the mod?), well that's the reason he got banned for one little week...

Actions are more important than implied intent based off a lw that ended up meaning nothing

[Efekannn02]

If his last will had intent to throw, and with a big history (hey its efekannn, do you ever play the mod?), well that's the reason he got banned for one little week...

One Little Week Ruining Many Plans

The History Aint That Big Its Just Some Pile Of Text Pretending To Be Much



Im Literally A Great Troll Who Plays To Win With Treachery And Honesty While Hiding The Truth

[Notorious]

I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?

Punished for lynching neutrals?

Isn’t that fine if they are not in your faction

[Arrow]

We make mistakes sometimes. Lynching an NB is not punishable under normal circumstances.

[Efekannn02]

What About Jester And Neutrals They Have Griefing Armor

[SuperJack]

oh look. herpes.

[Dragon Pulse]

Remove all Town, Mafia, Triad and Cult roles from the game. If neutrals are the only thing left, you can't get reported for lynching a neutral.

[Voss]

Remove all Town, Mafia, Triad and Cult roles from the game. If neutrals are the only thing left, you can't get reported for lynching a neutral.

TBT when the mod had the setup called "Lawless"

[Hybrid]

With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

But thats my take.
@Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.

First of all, i m tired of all of your logical fallacies. Arrow didn't do wrong and nor you understood the efe's crime at that moment. I don't remember if i mentioned it on report or not but he lynched the "survivor claim" only because he wanted to lynch the irl me to get revenge of sthi did earlier. The exe claim is his excuse to defend himself from the crime he is getting and to have an excuse to cry out loud.

Secondly, it wasn't a "gamethrowing", it was a "griefing" and "targetting people" crime. Why would a person would lynch a survivor claim even though there is a detective finger pointing that someone else is mass murderer? Wait, it was 2 detectives right? LOL. Efekannn if u are gonna whine about those kind of things please do it slightly quietly and not even make a seperate thread for it.

@Arrow you didn't make a mistake nor the staff did. Maybe the Banlist count might have been high but by the previous offenses he had and the "griefing" crime he had committed was more than enough for him to have at least Banlist x2
I don't care about if you delete efe's crime or not but i just want efekann to stop whining about it. It s been almost half a year already of this report...

[Efekannn02]

First of all, i m tired of all of your logical fallacies. Arrow didn't do wrong and nor you understood the efe's crime at that moment. I don't remember if i mentioned it on report or not but he lynched the "survivor claim" only because he wanted to lynch the irl me to get revenge of sthi did earlier. The exe claim is his excuse to defend himself from the crime he is getting and to have an excuse to cry out loud.

Secondly, it wasn't a "gamethrowing", it was a "griefing" and "targetting people" crime. Why would a person would lynch a survivor claim even though there is a detective finger pointing that someone else is mass murderer? Wait, it was 2 detectives right? LOL. Efekannn if u are gonna whine about those kind of things please do it slightly quietly and not even make a seperate thread for it.

@Arrow you didn't make a mistake nor the staff did. Maybe the Banlist count might have been high but by the previous offenses he had and the "griefing" crime he had committed was more than enough for him to have at least Banlist x2
I don't care about if you delete efe's crime or not but i just want efekann to stop whining about it. It s been almost half a year already of this report...

Youre Just Trying To Protect Yourself With That Excuse

[Hybrid]

Youre Just Trying To Protect Yourself With That Excuse

Naw, I m not, just for you to shut up I'd even review this game once again and post all of the things that has a prove that you were targetting me. Oh also, forgot to mention, you were using your smurf acc as wel while you were banned right? Efe seriously either accept it or i will really make you sad.

[PowersThatBe]

Naw, I m not, just for you to shut up I'd even review this game once again and post all of the things that has a prove that you were targetting me. Oh also, forgot to mention, you were using your smurf acc as wel while you were banned right? Efe seriously either accept it or i will really make you sad.

You’re not their boss lmao.

You’re just butthurt. Griefing is trolling to the point of game being ruined.

You claimed survivor. He lynched you. Only one crying is you. HAHA

[Hybrid]

You’re not their boss lmao.

You’re just butthurt. Griefing is trolling to the point of game being ruined.

You claimed survivor. He lynched you. Only one crying is you. HAHA

*butthuırt* you said, if i was really a butthurt i would have just replied it as the first post on the thrad
secondly, the admins will agree as well that this thing will go far more away and create an uncomfortable place in the forum. So?
Also fyi, "You claimed survivor, he lynched you" You didn't even watch the replay LMAO. Efe knew who I was in that game and intentionally lynched a survivor claim just because he hated those times LOL.

[Efekannn02]

Naw, I m not, just for you to shut up I'd even review this game once again and post all of the things that has a prove that you were targetting me. Oh also, forgot to mention, you were using your smurf acc as wel while you were banned right? Efe seriously either accept it or i will really make you sad.

Youre Just Abusing Your Powers On Me

Stop It Right There Or Else Ill Make You Regret It

[PowersThatBe]

Youre Just Abusing Your Powers On Me

Stop It Right There Or Else Ill Make You Regret It

Shut up lol. Just stop arguing about this.

in the end, hybrid = wrong. Efe = right.

GG. No re.

[PowersThatBe]

First of all, i m tired of all of your logical fallacies. Arrow didn't do wrong and nor you understood the efe's crime at that moment. I don't remember if i mentioned it on report or not but he lynched the "survivor claim" only because he wanted to lynch the irl me to get revenge of sthi did earlier. The exe claim is his excuse to defend himself from the crime he is getting and to have an excuse to cry out loud.

Secondly, it wasn't a "gamethrowing", it was a "griefing" and "targetting people" crime. Why would a person would lynch a survivor claim even though there is a detective finger pointing that someone else is mass murderer? Wait, it was 2 detectives right? LOL. Efekannn if u are gonna whine about those kind of things please do it slightly quietly and not even make a seperate thread for it.

@Arrow you didn't make a mistake nor the staff did. Maybe the Banlist count might have been high but by the previous offenses he had and the "griefing" crime he had committed was more than enough for him to have at least Banlist x2
I don't care about if you delete efe's crime or not but i just want efekann to stop whining about it. It s been almost half a year already of this report...

First of all. QQ

Secondly, I read the entire synopsis and found it not to be punishable. Arrow reviewed it and agreed the keeper made a mistake and reversed the decision.

So running in and reassuring arrow is pretty lulzy.

Anyhow no one can be punished anymore Bc the map is broken so all of this is moot.

Hybrid go relax bro. Too hype

[Hybrid]

First of all. QQ

Secondly, I read the entire synopsis and found it not to be punishable. Arrow reviewed it and agreed the keeper made a mistake and reversed the decision.

So running in and reassuring arrow is pretty lulzy.

Anyhow no one can be punished anymore Bc the map is broken so all of this is moot.

Hybrid go relax bro. Too hype

lol, since when the player targetting became a legal thing in mod mafia? So ppl will just be able to target people and when they whine about it they ll be forgiven? Don't make me laugh.

[PowersThatBe]

lol, since when the player targetting became a legal thing in mod mafia? So ppl will just be able to target people and when they whine about it they ll be forgiven? Don't make me laugh.

According to report I read. You stated you were survivor. At that point all bets are off.

Griefing crime states *once again* it’s trolling to the point of *game being ruined* you were not town. Therefore game could not be ruined for town, and it has no impact on the rest of the game.

The warden determined a mistake was made and overturned the decision. I get your bias doesn’t allow you to see it, but you are wrong.

Move on.

[Hybrid]

I'm just surprised that how far this thread has gone. Even though I have been ignoring this thread and let the efe has his own way to do things he just keep reminding it back and I' m tired of it.

Btw, if an admin sees this thread just lock it, i don't want any more posts here about efekannn's pointless whining...

[SuperJack]

Thread still has herpes

[Hybrid]

Anyway since you said no re you aint gonna post an answer post

[Efekannn02]

Atleast My Plan Worked hehe

[Efekannn02]

Hybrid Just Stop

Your Greed Makes Me Cringe

Just Freaking Stop I Dont Want To Waste Time To Do Something Stupid For My Own Advantage On This War

[Hybrid]

Hybrid Just Stop

Your Greed Makes Me Cringe

Just Freaking Stop I Dont Want To Waste Time To Do Something Stupid For My Own Advantage On This War

LOL, well waste your time then. Since you had the time to create this thread itself! You just can't produce any words to tell to me since this thread is all about your whining and arrow being nice to you xD
You are unright and mighty as well, how pitful and discouraging for a person to do it !

[SuperJack]

End of Thread.