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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

    Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?
    yeah letz do this
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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

    Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?
    Link to the thread? I'm skeptical this is the only reason a punishment would be handed down.
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    if you have elixir to contend with gl hf

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

    Highlighting relevant points:

    He sets a LW claiming intent to throw the game, and cursing whoever killed him
    And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.
    Additional Notes:
    I find sufficient evidence to support the griefing claim, but he ultimately did play to win and did so. The ban will be lifted at next update.
    And it was overturned anyway lol.

    I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

    Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    if you have elixir to contend with gl hf

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

    Highlighting relevant points:



    And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

    And it was overturned anyway lol.

    I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

    Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel
    holy shit
    efe just got fucking terminated
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    you can almost hear the bullet where the mayor shortly kills himself/herself upon realization.
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    SB16 was completely right ultimately.

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

    Highlighting relevant points:



    And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

    And it was overturned anyway lol.

    I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

    Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel
    Well Uhm Fine...
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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    I Didnt Know It Was Punishable To Lynch A Survivor Until I Was Banned For That Reason

    Can You Guys Add It In The Rules List So The New Players And Others May Learn From It And Wont Do The Same Mistake As I Did?
    Punished for lynching neutrals?

    Isnít that fine if they are not in your faction
    Inno me or I will do the extended saltship

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    A report from 6 months ago? Really? I guess I'm being trolled but whatever:

    Highlighting relevant points:



    And that was after 2 sets of watch listings also. -- Intent to gamethrow with a previous history is not good. Had nothing to do with you killing a neutral, I'd find it difficult to punish players for playing badly only if they're trying to mess with players for the hell of it.

    And it was overturned anyway lol.

    I'm not on the reports team, Arrow may be of a different opinion but I think you're not looking at this in the right context. I guess the reports team initally felt you went after the survivor for no reason other than he said he was you or wasnt you or named dropped you or something. That I guess can be constituted as a no reason player attack ~ which has varying levels of complexity case by case depending on how the games impacted.

    Bottom line, if you're mayor lynching people for the hell of it and cause a game loss or a near miss you run the risk of ending up on here regardless of the roles you lynch ya feel
    With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

    Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

    There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

    But thats my take.
    @Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

    Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

    There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

    But thats my take.
    @Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.
    Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?
    En Taro D.Va!

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?
    Because people make mistakes when interpreting the rules. Arrow fixed it.

    I agree you shouldn't have been punished at all.

    As you cant really in good faith grief someone who is outside of your faction, and openly admits they're outside of your faction.

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    With all due respect, he lynched a survivor claim vs a exe claim from 11. Either roles could have been MM if you think about it logically. Also, the pms and other stuff were coming from 2 players who are NOT confirmed, so their pms hold little weight.

    Yes, his punishment was eventually overturned, but he really shouldn't have been punished at all. If you look at the merits of the case, he didn't lynch a doctor/sherif/det claim. He lynched someone who was a neutral claim. That at the door should be grounds for ignoring the report.

    There were 2 claims for a role only one could be, he believed 11. Perhaps he was trolling, but he played to win as was found by arrow in the end. Now, the one det should not have quit. And they wouldn't have been in danger at all.

    But thats my take.
    @Efekannn02 no we don't need to add any punishments for lynching neutrals, you just need to act better in games and stop trolling so much.
    If his last will had intent to throw, and with a big history (hey its efekannn, do you ever play the mod?), well that's the reason he got banned for one little week...
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Then Why Did I Got Punished At All?
    The staff is human. Humans make errors. The fact is: the staff is really good because errors don't happen often. And to be fair, you deserved it for all the borderline gamethrowing, for circumventing rules with obvious intent to do it, and for making several games trash.


    Another thing. You technically can get infracted for lynching a NB if it clearly harms your team's winning chances, and if you have shown intent of harming them. It's possible, but very rare (Unless you guilty a jester you know he is, and that you're mafia or something like that...)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Because people make mistakes when interpreting the rules. Arrow fixed it.

    I agree you shouldn't have been punished at all.

    As you cant really in good faith grief someone who is outside of your faction, and openly admits they're outside of your faction.
    Hm. What if you are Witch, and that you make the Mafioso suicide in the only goal to get Forever Alone achievement when there are still many town members alive? It clearly harms your chances of winning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hm. What if you are Witch, and that you make the Mafioso suicide in the only goal to get Forever Alone achievement when there are still many town members alive? It clearly harms your chances of winning.
    But you aren’t game throwing as you don’t need mafia to win

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If his last will had intent to throw, and with a big history (hey its efekannn, do you ever play the mod?), well that's the reason he got banned for one little week...
    Actions are more important than implied intent based off a lw that ended up meaning nothing

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The staff is human. Humans make errors. The fact is: the staff is really good because errors don't happen often. And to be fair, you deserved it for all the borderline gamethrowing, for circumventing rules with obvious intent to do it, and for making several games trash.


    Another thing. You technically can get infracted for lynching a NB if it clearly harms your team's winning chances, and if you have shown intent of harming them. It's possible, but very rare (Unless you guilty a jester you know he is, and that you're mafia or something like that...)

    That’s poor logic. Well you were bad in the past or I think you d8d sonething, so now when you do nothing wrong you should be unjustly punished.

    That’s like saying I run stop signs all the 5ime and one time I legally park my car somewhere but it is towed anyway. My car should not have been towed and it doesn’t matter 2hat I’ve done in the past. Justice does not come by committing an unjust act and citing other reasons for why injustice is now just because you think someone should be punished for unrelated things because he wasn’t then but should be now. No.

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    Re: Suggestion:Adding Lynching Neutrals Benigns Is Punishable In Rules List

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Because people make mistakes when interpreting the rules. Arrow fixed it.

    I agree you shouldn't have been punished at all.

    As you cant really in good faith grief someone who is outside of your faction, and openly admits they're outside of your faction.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    But you arenít game throwing as you donít need mafia to win
    Not gamethrowing, since it's not playing to lose. However, it severly harms your chances of winning intentionally.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

 

 

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