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  1. #161

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    LET'S ONCE AND FOR ALL DISPEL WITH THIS FICTION THAT SO CALLED 'HACKER' ALONE WAS THE SINGLE SOURCE OFF ALL THE CHOO PROBLEMS.

    IVE BEEN IN THE GAMES I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES MOST CHOO ESPECIALLY SCVMURDERER ARE GUILTY OF GRIEFING AND SPAMMING AS WELL.

    YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT WE ALL KNOW IT.

    BUT SCVMURDERER GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT (WHY I DONT KNOW) AND HAS CONTINUED TO CALL IN MORE AND MORE FLUNKIES TO GASLIGHT ME AND TELL. ME AND OTHERS WR ARE JUST MAKING ALL THIS UP.

    WE AREN'T BECAUSE THIS THREAD WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    Last edited by renegade; February 18th, 2018 at 12:43 AM.

  2. #162

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Renegade I feel as tho you aren't taking this as seriously as you should. I am a keeper trying to help you, take you down the path you want to go down. I'll say it again, Nighthawk and myself have no affiliations with CHOOOO. We will gladly review the replays. If you do not wish to provide us with replays well I am sorry but nothing will happen. We can't help you if you wont help us.

    I am going to request this thread to be locked soon as nothing productive is coming from it.

  3. #163

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    LET'S ONCE AND FOR ALL DISPEL WITH THIS FICTION THAT SO CALLED 'HACKER' ALONE WAS THE SINGLE SOURCE OFF ALL THE CHOO PROBLEMS.

    IVE BEEN IN THE GAMES I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES MOST CHOO ESPECIALLY SCVMURDERER ARE GUILTY OF GRIEFING AND SPAMMING AS WELL.

    YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT WE ALL KNOW IT.

    BUT SCVMURDERER GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT (WHY I DONT KNOW) AND HAS CONTINUED TO CALL IN MORE AND MORE FLUNKIES TO GASLIGHT ME AND TELL. ME AND OTHERS WR ARE JUST MAKING ALL THIS UP.

    WE AREN'T BECAUSE THIS THREAD WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    If we were gaslighting we would be going after you personally and insulting you. Its time to grow up and stop. You don't HAVE to go through more replays, get more. That's why I sport my name to prove that choos get witchhunted even when quiet. Grow up, play, get a replay, submit it. ta-da. Done. Also make sure you didn't record an imitator and you got a choo. simple as that. You are complaining, insulting, and accusing us of many things we are not doing, and some of which YOU ARE. You have literally been gaslighting this entire time.

  4. #164

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Renegade I feel as tho you aren't taking this as seriously as you should. I am a keeper trying to help you, take you down the path you want to go down. I'll say it again, Nighthawk and myself have no affiliations with CHOOOO. We will gladly review the replays. If you do not wish to provide us with replays well I am sorry but nothing will happen. We can't help you if you wont help us.

    I am going to request this thread to be locked soon as nothing productive is coming from it.
    I'll have replays for you tomorrow. Again I've got to sort through several hundred.

    Additionally what's the point if all these assholes get is WLx4 how long was so called hacker on a watch list before someone decided his Choo endorsed spamming and GRIEFING was enough?


    Sure lock the thread continue to bury the truth that CHOOO FORMALLY ENDORSED GRIEFING SPAMMING AND CHEATING.

    Blame it all on hacker! Surely no one else did anything wrong!

    I am taking this more seriously than others in this thread.

  5. #165

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    The volume of those speaking against me does not invalidate any of what I'm saying.

    I'd like to be an active contributing member of this community. I'll gladly support monetarily as well that is why I finally made want account when I saw this thread existed. But enough is enough and the charades have gone on long enough.

  6. #166

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    I'll have replays for you tomorrow. Again I've got to sort through several hundred.

    Additionally what's the point if all these assholes get is WLx4 how long was so called hacker on a watch list before someone decided his Choo endorsed spamming and GRIEFING was enough?


    Sure lock the thread continue to bury the truth that CHOOO FORMALLY ENDORSED GRIEFING SPAMMING AND CHEATING.

    Blame it all on hacker! Surely no one else did anything wrong!

    I am taking this more seriously than others in this thread.
    When did chooo formally endorse, griefing, spamming, and cheating? I'd like to see this.

  7. #167

  8. #168

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    Sure lock the thread continue to bury the truth that CHOOO FORMALLY ENDORSED GRIEFING SPAMMING AND CHEATING.
    Nothing is getting buried, the thread will still be accessible. All that is coming from it is personal attacks and dancing around in circles.

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    I'll have replays for you tomorrow.
    Looking forward to it. Please make sure you follow our guidelines on how to submit a report in the correct formatting

  9. #169

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    By letting so called HACKER stay in their clan for months and work alongside him to spam and grief.
    Choo is 4 months old. Hacker joined halfway through month 2.5, and has been kicked around 3-3.5 months. Meanwhile, that is neither formal nor endorsing, Hacker never cheated, (or actually hacked despite his claims, the punishment for hacking is due to the fact he claimed it.) however, I can't argue with the spamming too much, but there is literally a command for that, and literally everyone except hacker stopped after D1. Why are you so hellbent on getting rid of choo for the community when we are a large amount of the community, and why are you shifting the facts so much to try and get rid of us? did you get lynched because of it? did you get beaten? what caused you to be so mad at literally nothing when the games still run smoothly? Hell, you don't know much ABOUT choo. You have been trying to get us to KICK THE FOUNDER/UNKICKABLE. YOU KNOW SO LITTLE OF THE CLAN, YET YOU ACT AS IF YOU ARE AN EXPERT DIAGNOSING A DISEASE.

  10. #170

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by devyn View Post
    I haven't gone after you personally besides telling you to stop and look that you are almost completely alone. You however, have gone after everyone who has disagreed with you as flunkies and various other insults. The entire time you have claimed we have gone after you and lashed out at our clan, and then us personally, and we haven't lashed out at you... yet you continue to claim we do go after you and gaslight.
    He's not alone.

    There are many players unhappy with certain clans and people who, as mentioned by Reacher on page 1, skirt the rules without actually breaking them, but harm the spirit of the game nonetheless.

    However, these people talk amongst themselves and the few who voice their opinions openly are spread thinly across multiple channels (lobby chat, individual games that got lost in the sea of replays, Discord chat, etc). Unfortunately, these people are always shot down by the posse of disruptive players.

    I mean, shit, some of the players are spammers who flood day chat in tandem, and others are collaborators who vote with/protect each other. They go everywhere and deal with everything in packs. Is it any surprise that @renegade appears to be "alone"?

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Renegade,

    If you want this progress anywhere, submit a report to the report section. I highly advise it. The pictures you have uploaded in this thread will not be accepted as evidence, so if you have a replay of the game however I will gladly look at it.
    Typical advice from a member of the Skwirl posse, telling people to take action that sounds reasonable at face value, but not actually viable.

    We've already established that these players' behaviour is disruptive but not technically breaking any rules. Reports won't do anything.

    However, just because you can't be officially punished for it doesn't mean it's not wrong, nor hurting the community.


    Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.

  11. #171

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Renegade I feel as tho you aren't taking this as seriously as you should. I am a keeper trying to help you, take you down the path you want to go down. I'll say it again, Nighthawk and myself have no affiliations with CHOOOO. We will gladly review the replays. If you do not wish to provide us with replays well I am sorry but nothing will happen. We can't help you if you wont help us.

    I am going to request this thread to be locked soon as nothing productive is coming from it.
    Thread locks are not a norm on this forum. Let's not make that a thing.

    Just because he's saying something unpopular doesn't mean you get to censor him.


    Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.

  12. #172

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by devyn View Post
    Choo is 4 months old. Hacker joined halfway through month 2.5, and has been kicked around 3-3.5 months. Meanwhile, that is neither formal nor endorsing, Hacker never cheated, (or actually hacked despite his claims, the punishment for hacking is due to the fact he claimed it.) however, I can't argue with the spamming too much, but there is literally a command for that, and literally everyone except hacker stopped after D1. Why are you so hellbent on getting rid of choo for the community when we are a large amount of the community, and why are you shifting the facts so much to try and get rid of us? did you get lynched because of it? did you get beaten? what caused you to be so mad at literally nothing when the games still run smoothly? Hell, you don't know much ABOUT choo. You have been trying to get us to KICK THE FOUNDER/UNKICKABLE. YOU KNOW SO LITTLE OF THE CLAN, YET YOU ACT AS IF YOU ARE AN EXPERT DIAGNOSING A DISEASE.

    If the clan is only 4 months old then why are you all so desperate to protect it and your dear leader?

    Trust me I'm not salty for losing a game to a Choo (don't think it's ever happened), I'm just giving a voice to all of those that have been subject to their ABUSE just by joining a mafia game.

    So you either support or don't support the ABUSE. You pick devyn.

    All I know of the clan is the show the cult has put on in public display by GRIEFING SPAMMING AND CHEATING WITH EACH OTHER.

    I speak for the silent majority. Seriously I'll bet you 50 bucks that if we join a random mafia lobby with normal players that they would all have valid complaints against your cult. They just don't happen to get on the forum to post.

  13. #173

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Hi Exeter,

    Me being apart of the Skwirl discord has nothing to do with this, I am not taking sides. Like I said before if someone isn't happy with my handling of the report we have another Keeper who I am sure you will be happy with.

    I will say it now, spamming is against the rules and we have punished players for it before. However 5-10 copy pasted messages at the start of Day 1 will be ignored for common sense reasons.

    Thread locks have been utilized when personal attacks are taken too far, which this thread has shown potential for.
    Last edited by rumox; February 18th, 2018 at 01:27 AM.

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  15. #175

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Anyway, this is ridiculous.

    You guys from the mega clans are working as a united front, constantly covering each others' backs and keeping up a constant bombardment of posts that independent players cannot address all by themselves.

    Which is why independent players always get shot down with "You see anybody else complaining? You're the only one whining about it." even though it's a rubbish point. The "NO CHOOS OR SKWIRLS" lobbies had some support, me confronting Distorted on the Skwirl Discord chat had some support, the same name usage complaint thread had some support, lobby conversations, in-game conversations, even this fairly recent thread has some support.

    Yet somehow we're always downplayed as the lone wolf crying about a trivial issue that "nobody" cares about.

    This is precisely the crux of the issue. The mega clans roam around in packs. Both in game, and in the arguments that occur outside.

    So when we broach the issue on official channels, you guys come in to refute it in a coordinated wave. There are other players who agree with us, but because we don't arrange to fight back as one, our voices get drowned out.

    * * * * *

    On a side note, that these issues are constantly brought up are quite telling. Yes, Mafia players complain a lot about many things. But threads about "shit cult saves", "crappy Judge-Crier saves", "there should be a rule banning saves with rigged settings", or even "Diablo model should be silenced" don't crop up this often.
    Last edited by Exeter350; February 18th, 2018 at 01:40 AM.


    Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.

  16. #176

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    If the clan is only 4 months old then why are you all so desperate to protect it and your dear leader?

    Trust me I'm not salty for losing a game to a Choo (don't think it's ever happened), I'm just giving a voice to all of those that have been subject to their ABUSE just by joining a mafia game.

    So you either support or don't support the ABUSE. You pick devyn.

    All I know of the clan is the show the cult has put on in public display by GRIEFING SPAMMING AND CHEATING WITH EACH OTHER.

    I speak for the silent majority. Seriously I'll bet you 50 bucks that if we join a random mafia lobby with normal players that they would all have valid complaints against your cult. They just don't happen to get on the forum to post.
    You are not the Lorax, and the community are not trees.

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  18. #178

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    But the one point that should overwhelm all the fighting is this: If you see over-spamming past d1, take it to forums. that is griefing. Hacker isn't part of the clan, and people who spam and pretend to be choos OFTEN ARE NOT CHOOS. The mass spamming HAS been used in punishments before: Take for example the mass spamming hacker, who got griefing charges on him when he made up more than a quarter of the game's chat. Get evidence, then submit it. Stop yelling about old things that are gone, or just things without providing proof. IT IS SIMPLE AS THAT. I bet a lot of you don't even notice the one or two choos in a lot of your games, quietly playing, going under your notice.

  19. #179

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Quote Originally Posted by devyn View Post
    But the one point that should overwhelm all the fighting is this: If you see over-spamming past d1, take it to forums. that is griefing. Hacker isn't part of the clan, and people who spam and pretend to be choos OFTEN ARE NOT CHOOS. The mass spamming HAS been used in punishments before: Take for example the mass spamming hacker, who got griefing charges on him when he made up more than a quarter of the game's chat. Get evidence, then submit it. Stop yelling about old things that are gone, or just things without providing proof. IT IS SIMPLE AS THAT. I bet a lot of you don't even notice the one or two choos in a lot of your games, quietly playing, going under your notice.
    Take it to forums...
    ...or type "-mute".

  20. #180

    Re: <CHOOO> Clan and -Mafia- Arcade Game

    Thank you Exeter

    If they keep it under wrap I personally wont have any issues with this discussion continuing. I may be a part of Skwirl discord which might give the impression of me having ulterior motives but I can honestly say that is not the case. Scvmurderer is and will be under close watch given the past nature of CHOOOO. I do not deny past indiscretions by former members of the clan, I have spoken up against it in game as well.

    We do have a system in place the deals with spammers but we can only act upon replays submitted that adhere to our rules of submission. If anyone is found violating these rules (staff member or not) we will impose the relevant punishment for their action, taking into consideration past infractions as well.

 

 

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