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    S-FM 8-2-2

    S-FM 8-2-2

    Roles List

    Town Government
    Town Random
    Town Random
    Town Random
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen

    Dragon Head
    Triad Random

    Neutral Evil
    Neutral Benign

    Town Government: Mayor, Marshall

    Town Random: Detective, Lookout, Doctor, Bodyguard, Escort, Vigilante, Bus Driver, Veteran, Jailor

    Triad Random: Administrator, Forger, Liaison, Vanguard

    Neutral Benign: Executioner, Jester, Lover

    Neutral Evil: Witch, Auditor, Judge


    Role Cards


    Spoiler : Town Roles :
    Mayor: Once during the game, you may reveal at day PMing the host, gaining 1 permanent additional vote. You cannot be healed. If your role changes you lose your additional vote.

    Marshall: Once during the game, you may reveal at day PMing the host, making it possible for one extra lynch to occur during the same day. Both lynches are revealed at the end of the day. You cannot be healed.

    Detective: Follow a player at night, knowing who they visit.

    Lookout: Stalk a player at night, knowing everyone who visits your target.

    Doctor: Heal a player at night in case they are attacked. You are not notified if your heal was succesful. The target is notified.

    Bodyguard: Guard one player each night. If someone attacks a guarded player, both the attacker and the Bodyguard die instead of the guarded player.

    Escort: Roleblock a player at night. Target is notified.

    Vigilante: Kill a player at night. One use.

    Bus Driver: Swap two players at night, making actions that target the first player instead target the second player and vice versa. If you swap an attacker with his target the attacker will die.

    Veteran: May go on alert during the night. If he goes on alert, will automatically kills any player who targets him that night. This does not stop other abilities which you were the target (Example: If an auditor targets you, you will kill him but will still get audited to Citizen). One use.

    Jailor: Jail and roleblock one player each night following a day where no lynch occurred. Speak anonymously with the jailed player at night, and optionally execute that player. One use.

    Citizen: No abilities.



    Spoiler : Triad Roles :
    Dragon Head: Kill a player at night. You cannot be killed during night by the Vigilante, the Bus Driver or the Witch. You are notified about every attacks you receive, including the Witch targeting yourself.

    Administrator: Visit a player at night, knowing his exact role.

    Forger: Visit a player at night, making it look to investigative roles like your target visited the Triad's night kill target.

    Liaison: Roleblock a player at night. Target is notified.

    Vanguard: Stalk and follow a player at night, knowing who they visited and who visited them.

    Enforcer: If your Dragon Head is dead you may kill someone at night.



    Spoiler : Neutral Benign Roles :
    Executioner: You start the game with a target you need to live to see him lynched. If your target dies at night, you become a Jester.

    Jester:Your goal is to get lynched. If you die, one of your voters will suicide.

    Lover: You start the game connected to a player. This means that your goal is to make your "connection" win the game and both live until the end. And, if he dies, you die as well and viceversa. Doctor can't prevent the death caused by the connection. (EXPLANATION: If your connection dies and the doctor heals you, he cannot stop you from dying but if he heals the player that was attacked both of you won't die). You share a Night Chat. The connection mustn't reveal his alignment in this chat.



    Spoiler : Neutral Evil Roles :
    Witch: Force one person to use their night ability on a target of the Witch's choice. You cannot make players without a Night Ability that doesn't involve visiting to target anyone (even themselves). Can control a player to target themselves even when they normally can't.

    Auditor: Convert one person to Citizen each night. Triad instead becomes an Enforcer. Neutral Benign & Neutral Evil instead become an Scumbag. Dragon Head is inmune. 2 uses. You are told what role your target has become or if it has failed.

    Judge: Once during the game, you may PM to the host the name of two players. That day the lynch must be between those two players, and if none is lynched both will die at the end of the day. When you use your ability, 24 hours are added to the day countdown.

    Scumbag:No abilities.



    Win Conditions

    Town: Kill the Triad, the Neutral Evil and have at least 1 member remaining.

    Triad: Kill the Town and have at least 1 member remaining.

    Jester: Be lynched.

    Executioner: Live to see your target lynched.

    Lover: Make sure your "connection" wins and you both are alive when the game ends.

    Witch, Auditor, Judge & Scumbag: Live to see the Town lose the game.

    Ties: Triad/Neutral Evil > Town > Neutral Benign

    Mechanics

    Days last 48 hours.
    Nights last 24 hours.
    Majority & Non-Mandatory Lynch.
    No Last Wills & No Death Notes & No Suicides

    Triad share a Night Chat, and if Dragon Head dies the other triad's night ability will be substituted with a Night Kill.


    Order of Actions

    1. Jailor detains target.
    2. Night Discussion
    3. Veteran Alerts
    4. Target Switched and Roleblockers (Witches, Bus Drivers then Escort & Liaison)
    5. Forger frames
    6. Killing roles & Suicides
    7. Auditor Audits
    8. Investigative Roles




    Rules of Conduct

    No OGC (out of game communication)
    Insults are alright, but don't be extreme.
    Don't quote PMs.
    English only.
    Be active. Being active also means contributing to the game. Host has total discretion about this.
    Images and videos are allowed, but don't spam them.
    No excessive use of unrelated posts.
    Threatened, attempted, or faked gamethrows are prohibited and will result in force replace, modkill or agressive warn at the host's discretion.
    Don't spam excessively




    Last edited by Gyrlander; September 19th, 2017 at 10:38 AM.


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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    Observations/Questions:

    The lover is essentially a survivor with a harder win-con, I suggest you buff the lover some how, perhaps by giving them a chat of some sort?

    If a player is attacked and healed, are they informed?

    How many executes does the Jailor have? Can he execute on lynched days?

    How many times can the marshal reveal?

    How many times can the mayor reveal? Does he keep his vote if he lives another day?

    An amnesiac siding with town can result in a total steamroll imo; in general i'd say this game is a bit town sided.

    4 total TPRs vs effectively 1 scum tpr, I'd reduce the number of TPR to 3; but I'd like more opinions on this.
    @Iced_Monopoly @RLVG
    Last edited by deathworlds; September 14th, 2017 at 05:46 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Observations/Questions:

    The lover is essentially a survivor with a harder win-con, I suggest you buff the lover some how, perhaps by giving them a chat of some sort?

    If a player is attacked and healed, are they informed?

    How many executes does the Jailor have? Can he execute on lynched days?

    How many times can the marshal reveal?

    How many times can the mayor reveal? Does he keep his vote if he lives another day?

    An amnesiac siding with town can result in a total steamroll imo; in general i'd say this game is a bit town sided.

    4 total TPRs vs effectively 1 scum tpr, I'd reduce the number of TPR to 3; but I'd like more opinions on this.
    @Iced_Monopoly @RLVG
    1. Will make them share a Night chat. However, the "connected" cannot reveal his role or team.

    2. Yes.

    3. One. No.

    4. One.

    5. One. Yes.

    6. Giving scum a Neutral Evil may help them. Also, roles won't be completely random


    Thank you Anonymous Donor

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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    If Triad is dead and Neutral Evil is still alive, will Town win?
    Does lone Triad or lone Neutral Evil win tie?
    Does Mayor win tie vs Neutral Evil? vs Triad?
    Changed Town's win condition so they need to kill the Neutral Evil as well.

    Neutral Evil and Triad win together.

    Mayor is like any other town, he won't win any ties.

    (Added Ties Explanation)


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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Changed Town's win condition so they need to kill the Neutral Evil as well.

    Neutral Evil and Triad win together.

    Mayor is like any other town, he won't win any ties.

    (Added Ties Explanation)
    I meant, will Mayor win at 1v1? It would be 3 votes vs 1 vote.
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    Town: Kill the Triad and the Neutral Evil.

    Triad: Kill the Town.
    Is it possible for both Town and Triad to win by having everyone die?
    I think some should be alive.

    6. Killing roles & Suicides (Jailor, Vigilante, Enforcer, Dragon Head -> Jester, (being killed in a previous event does not matter, however), Bodyguard, Bus Driver, and Witch indirect kills/suicides happen throughout in the applicable areas.
    This is a rather long text for this order slot, why not just simply saying that all kills and deaths occur at the same time here?

    Auditor: Convert one person to Citizen each night. Triad instead becomes an Enforcer. Neutral Benign & Neutral Evil instead become an Scumbag. Dragon Head is inmune. 2 uses.
    1. Does the Mayor still have his +1 vote after becoming a Citizen?
    2. In the Order list, Audit is 8 and Invest roles is 7 but Audit is shown before Invest. What happens here? Does the Invest roles still get their feedback when being audited?
    3. Can an Auditor audit a jailed target?

    Judge: Once during the game, you may PM to the host the name of two players. That day the lynch must be between those two players, and if none is lynched both will die at the end of the day.
    Jester:Your goal is to get lynched. If you die, one of your voters will suicide.
    In the Situation a Judge initiates a lynch between a player and a Jester and there's literally no votes? Will nobody get killed by the Jester?

    Lover: Make sure your "connection" wins and you both are alive when the game ends.
    Does the "connection" win together with the Lover?

    Administrator: Visit a player at night, knowing his exact role.
    Does the Administrator know the original role of Audited roles?

    Bus Driver: Swap two players at night, making actions that target the first player instead target the second player and vice versa. If you swap an attacker with his target the attacker will die.
    Can the Bus Driver target themselves?

    Dragon Head: Kill a player at night. You cannot be killed during night by the Vigilante nor the Bus Driver.
    Witch: Force one person to use their night ability on a target of the Witch's choice. You cannot make players without a Night Ability that doesn't involve visiting to target anyone (even themselves). Can control a player to target themselves even when they normally can't.
    Can the Witch cause the Dragon Head to suicide?

    Veteran: May go on alert during the night. If he goes on alert, will automatically kills any player who targets him that night. This does not stop other abilities which you were the target (Example: If an auditor targets you, you will kill him but will still get audited to Citizen). One use.
    What happens in the scenario that a Bus Driver targets the Veteran who alerts?
    Also, what happens if a Witch targets a Veteran?

    Doctor: Heal a player at night in case they are attacked. You are not notified if your heal was succesful.
    Looking at previous answers, I think you should include the target is notified.

    Judge: Once during the game, you may PM to the host the name of two players. That day the lynch must be between those two players, and if none is lynched both will die at the end of the day.
    Can the Judge PM the Host near the end of day to snipe two kills since no one can react?

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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    ANSWERS IN WHITE

    Is it possible for both Town and Triad to win by having everyone die?
    I think some should be alive.

    Added at least 1 member remaining.

    This is a rather long text for this order slot, why not just simply saying that all kills and deaths occur at the same time here?

    I copied it from the Wiki :P. Fixed.

    1. Does the Mayor still have his +1 vote after becoming a Citizen?
    2. In the Order list, Audit is 8 and Invest roles is 7 but Audit is shown before Invest. What happens here? Does the Invest roles still get their feedback when being audited?
    3. Can an Auditor audit a jailed target?

    The rolecard says "If your role changes you lose your additional vote" so no. | Oops, fixed it :P | Yes.


    In the Situation a Judge initiates a lynch between a player and a Jester and there's literally no votes? Will nobody get killed by the Jester?

    Exactly. Both will die but no one will suicide.

    Does the "connection" win together with the Lover?

    The connection has a separate win condition, so it doesn't have to necessarily be like that.

    Does the Administrator know the original role of Audited roles?

    No. He knows the current role.

    Can the Bus Driver target themselves?

    No.

    Can the Witch cause the Dragon Head to suicide?

    Added explanation in Dragon Head's rolecard.

    What happens in the scenario that a Bus Driver targets the Veteran who alerts?
    Also, what happens if a Witch targets a Veteran?

    The Bus Driver swaps both targets but dies in the process.

    She dies and the veteran can't visit anyone so RIP.

    Looking at previous answers, I think you should include the target is notified.

    Added.

    Can the Judge PM the Host near the end of day to snipe two kills since no one can react?

    Now Judge ability adds 24 extra hours to the Day in order to prevent that :P


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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    Approved for signups.

    @Gyrlander

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM 8-2-2

    @Gyrlander

    Which ability is one use for jailor? The execution or the jail?
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