FloodingRain: 1-S2-1-2441688, TwentyTwo: 1-S2-1-1224965

[Nighthawk]

Account Name: FloodingRain
Account ID: 1-S2-1-2441688
In-Game Name: Glass Statue

Account Name: TwentyTwo
Account ID: 1-S2-1-1224965
In-Game Name: Teh Germans

Crimes Committed: Cheating, Hacking, Skyping, and/or Griefing

This is a very disturbing replay to watch, so I listed all 4 possible crimes that could be going on, I'm sure the mods can better tell with some back-end tools they may have. This game is especially concerning since these players are members of the SC2MAF clan, which is supposed to be a group that plays the game with respect and by the rules; clearly neither of these players was doing so.


Your Account Name: Mortality



Summary: FloodingRain selects the name Glass Statue is put in slot #3 and roles Coroner. TwentyTwo selects the name Teh Germans is put in slot #5 and roles Vigilante. From the very start of the game, #3 and #5 seems to know exactly who the mafia is and aggressively accuse them by spamming baseless accusations in the chat. 3 Claims to the town to be a Marshall audited to Citizen, and 5 claims to be a Detective. The mafia is quickly destroyed and the town wins with ease.

I might usually think that this might just be Skyping, but the fact that neither was a role that could find the information they claimed to have leads me to believe that at least one of them was cheating and/or hacking to find this information. I also marked for Griefing for the excessive spamming by both players that didn't allow the accused players to defend themselves or the game to proceed normally.

[Mesk514]

SC ID VERIFICATION
FloodingRain - Correct: 1-S2-1-2441688
TwentyTwo - Correct: 1-S2-1-1224965

Respective Hotkeys
FloodingRain: 6
TwentyTwo: 4

Was the Game Result altered?
unfair for the scum cause these two were able to trust each other and coordinate.

Summary
FloodingRain(#3) roles Coroner
TwentyTwo(#5) roles Vigilante


Night 1:
#3 does nothing
#5 does nothing

Day 2:
02:39 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL alright
02:41 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I am marshall
02:43 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL and I got audited
02:47 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL audited marshall here
02:49 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL i fuked blue's boi pusc
02:49 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 is mafia
02:54 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 2 is gurantee gf
02:57 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 pm'd me
02:57 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL he is rb
02:59 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL he was citizen
02:59 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 2 is rb
03:01 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 2 is rb
03:04 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 2 is rb
03:05 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 2 is rb

#3 votes #1
#5 votes #2

03:05 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 claimed cit
03:09 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL cit is 0 %
03:11 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 is lie
03:15 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 is lie
03:16 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL get 1
03:18 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL yes he did
03:21 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I did
03:22 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1 is not german
03:25 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL HE IS GERM MAN
03:25 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 is lie
03:26 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL get 1
03:29 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 pm'd me day 1
03:29 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1 is germ man
03:30 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL get 1
03:31 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:31 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:32 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:32 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 1 pm'd day 1
03:32 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:33 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:33 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:34 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:34 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:34 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:34 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I am marshall
03:35 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:36 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:36 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:37 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I got audited
03:37 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:38 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:38 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
03:38 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL let me down

#3 is put on trial

03:44 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I AM MARSHALL
03:47 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL AND GOT AUDITED N1
03:48 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL NO COUNTERS
03:50 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I AM CONFIRMED
03:55 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I DEMAND TO BE LET DOWN
04:01 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL inno
04:02 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL as fuck
04:03 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I take it those are innos
04:04 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL inno as fuck
04:06 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL no counter clasims
04:06 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL inno lol
04:08 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL evils put him up
04:08 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL no CCs
04:09 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL inno
04:11 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL no cc
04:11 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL no counter claims

#3 is voted innocent
#5 votes #13
#2 votes #13

04:20 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:21 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:22 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:22 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:22 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:22 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 31
04:22 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:23 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:23 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:23 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:23 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13
04:23 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:26 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13 gg
04:30 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:33 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 13
04:38 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13 or 4
04:39 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL mafia isnt voting 13
04:41 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 4
04:43 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 13 is naive town
04:44 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 4 is mafia
04:45 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:45 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:45 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:47 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:47 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 4
04:50 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I AM MARSHALL GET 4

#4 is put on trial

04:54 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL ffs
05:15 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL oh shiet
05:20 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL inno
05:22 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL any random can be crier
#4 is voted innocent

Night 2:
#3 performs and autopsy on #11
#5 shoots #8

Day 3:
06:10 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL -lw
06:56 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1 is gf
06:58 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL det here
06:59 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL get 1
07:05 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL no fuck off
07:06 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL its 1
07:08 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 100%
07:10 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL no
07:12 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL s
07:12 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL s
07:20 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1
07:21 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 1

#1 is put on trial

07:46 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL -lw
07:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL ezpz
07:50 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL lemon sqeeze
07:54 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL -lw
08:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL -lw
08:54 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL -lw

#1 is voted guilty, he was a Blackmailer. #3 changes his last will to "1 PM'd me he was Cit"

Night 3:
#3 performs an autopsy on #1
#5 shoots #6 (night immune)

Day 4:
09:25 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL 6 is gf
09:30 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I confirm
09:31 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL im german u cant trust me
09:31 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me
09:43 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I was attacking 1 day 2
09:43 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL its 6
09:45 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL for being mafia
09:45 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL he is NI
09:46 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL i know
09:50 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 5 and I both tried to lynch mafia
09:52 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL we are confirmed not mafia
09:59 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 5 has a lead
10:03 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL nope
10:04 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL it's 6
10:06 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL lol
10:08 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I could do that if I wanted to
10:10 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL but it's 6
10:34 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL guys
10:37 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL marshall here
10:39 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 2 pm'd me
10:40 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL he was mafia
10:43 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL guilty and lynch 2 if I die
10:55 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL -lw
11:03 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL spy pm me last wills
11:05 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:06 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:06 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:06 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:07 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:08 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL gg
11:08 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL spy pms me last wills
11:11 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL report 6 on forums
11:15 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 pm'd me that 2 was mafia
11:19 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL 6 is rolehacking
11:21 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL and mafia
11:25 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL LOL
11:30 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL yes he did
11:57 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL -lw
11:58 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL -lw
12:28 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL rip
12:31 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I'm marshall
12:43 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL lol
12:45 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL im vigi

Night 4:
#3 performs an autopsy on #6
#5 shoots #2

Day 5:
12:48 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL not cheating, it's called intuition
12:51 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL and not being a dumbass

#12 is put on trial, #12 was lynched, they were the Arsonist

Game ends Day 5 with Town win.

13:04 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I didn't know all mafia d2
13:05 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I called out 1
13:07 [Sc2Maf]TwentyTwo ALL stfu 14
13:37 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL what if I told you
13:44 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL I had 40k, so I know how to play
14:38 [Sc2Maf]FloodingRain ALL gg


These two were obviously not hacking for many reasons. However although they may not have explicitly told each other their roles outside of game, it's obvious that because they were in a call together they were trolling and trusting each other. Most of their votes come one after another, once one voted another we vote right after.



Previous Offenses
FloodingRain:
- Griefing (On-Hold)
- Griefing (On-Hold)
- Griefing (x2 WL)
- Name Abuse (On-Hold)
- Other (On-Hold)


TwentyTwo:
- Minor Griefing (On-Hold)

Player Offenses
FloodingRain: Cheating//Additional Information
TwentyTwo: Cheating//Additional Information

Recommended Action
FloodingRain: x4 WL
TwentyTwo: x2 WL

Additional Notes
Thank you for your effort in trying to keep the game clean!

[Arrow]

1-S2-1-2441688: 4x WL
1-S2-1-1224965: 2x WL

[Fury]

The fuck? Not only was I not cheating, but I also was not "in a call." I specifically have had hearing problems as of late in my right ear, and have been playing the game with no sounds entirely. Unless it's stereo audio, it pisses me off. (Side Note: I'm super salty because I haven't been able to listen to the Beatles for quite a while now as a result of my right ear not being able to hear well)

As for people following me in the game, it was because I was confirmed marshall with no counterclaims. I trust people who don't try to LYNCH THE MARSHALL DAY 2. Consequently, he trusted me because I was confirmed marshall.

I was voted up day 2 and defended by quite a few town members (the ones with brains). It's called not being a complete degenerate to lynch people who vote guilty on the confirmed marshall. 13 and 4 both voted guilty on confirmed marshall, so I voted one up. 22 has a brain also, so he voted 13 up (who was the most adamant in pushing me).

Jesus christ, just because 95% of you are completely brain-dead does not mean that everyone is.

To make it clear, knowing who every mafia is night 2 does not mean that I cheated. It means that I'm not a complete degenerate. Additionally, 22 clearly knew not to lynch confirmed marshall and to vote up those who try to lynch marshall. I, as marshall, trusted those who inno voted me. It's not cheating. If 22 instead voted up 4 immediately and then voted up 13 right after I did, there wouldn't be a valid report here. Flip a fucking coin and decide the report on that.

[Mesk514]

Please refrain from posting in this section unless you are the reported person or the original poster. Should you feel like something is not be handled properly, you may post in the answer hall. Thank you

[Arrow]

Audit report recognized. Moving to appropriate section for review.

[Fury]

It is silly that the reason for the punishment/judgement was: "unfair for the scum cause these two were able to trust each other and coordinate."

Yet we clearly were not coordinated (I was pushing 1, he was pushing 2). When I was outed as the marshall with no counter claims, he began to follow me (which makes sense because I'm 0 counter claim town gov....). It's cheating to vote up the person pushing hardest against the marshall (#13)? Silly.

Anyone who watches the ACTUAL game (votes and all of that shit included) can easily see why the chat log is explained.

Looking at the chat log by itself can give the wrong impression, especially since you have to recall I was being defended as the 0 counter claim marshall. I, in turn, trusted those who defended me.

[Fury]

Twas the eve of my marriage to Joseph, when suddenly he decided to cancel our wedding plans because I'm a wanted criminal.

I told him it was just a watch list, not a ban list, but he didn't care. He left me, and his dad spat at the ground as I walked by.

My life has been ruined. All I seek now is an audit - so in the future I can love and learn to live again. Here's to the day I find my new Joseph.

[Fury]

profile pic was my face when I saw this wasn't appealed yet

[Mesk514]

I believe this thread got lost somewhere in the woodwork given it was not moved back to punished players where it could easily be remembered and as well Arrow has been extremely busy as of late. I have pinged him letting him know you still want to appeal this and hopefully he will take a look at it soon.

[Fury]

I don't mind it taking long, as long as it is done at some point!

Been running into some hacker accusations lately and I don't like that.

[Arrow]

SC ID VERIFICATION
FloodingRain: 1-S2-1-2441688 is Correct.
TwentyTwo: 1-S2-1-1224965 is Correct.

Respective Hotkey:

FloodingRain: 6
TwentyTwo: 4

Previous Offenses:

Covered by Mesk

Player Offenses:

FloodingRain:
TwentyTwo:

Key Points:
Players in question:

FloodingRain, CORONER, 3
TwentyTwo, VIGILANTE, 5

Game:


Setup: Prefers.
Names: None.
Roles: None.
D1: None.
N1: 5 can't find his gun. 3 has nobody to autopsy.
D2: 11(DETECTIVE) is dead. 3 claims audited MARSHALL. He claims 1 is Mafia. Meanwhile, 5 claims 2 is GF "Guaranteed". Both 1 and 2 are Mafia(though neither is GF). Votes eventually send 3 to trial, but he comes off. 3 and 5 start a train on 13, then derail it to 4. 4 goes to trial, claims CRIER, which would take the only Town Government spawn. (ANY RANDOM can also spawn in as a town role.) He is innoed.
N2: Crier speaks, proving his existence. 3 autopsies 11, and finds he was killed by GF(no surprise) and finds a second coroner. He is also blackmailed, meaning he can pass none of this information on. 5 meanwhile decides to shoot 8(SURVIVOR).
D3: 8 is dead. 7(LOOKOUT) is dead. 1 is sent to trial and hung. Flips BLACKMAILER.
N3: 5 targets 6(GODFATHER). 3 autopsies the Blackmailer and finds out no useful info.
D4: 15(ESCORT) is dead. 5 immediately accuses the NI GF of his role, 3 backs him up. 6 is lynched and flips GF.
N4: 3 autopsies 15, but gets no result because the Mafia ices him out. 5 meanwhile bumps off 2(MAFIOSO), ending the mafia.
D5: 12(ARSONIST) is hung. Town wins.

Was the game result altered?
Hard to say.


Punishment:

FloodingRain: On-hold
TwentyTwo: On-hold

Additional Notes:
I'm convinced that something skeevy was going on, simply by vote pattern analysis. I can't put my finger down on it perfectly, however, and the evidence is sufficiently weak that I find no reason to do anything other than time served. Since there's been no reoffense, I'll move this to Evidence shortly and that'll hopefully be the end of it.


Thank you for the report!

[Fury]

Kind of disappointed that I wasn't fully cleared on this one. If I claim marshall and others follow me because of that, I don't understand why I have to be punished for cheating.

13 was pushing the marshall, so I voted him up. TwentyTwo decided to as well, likely because 13 was pushing me (the marshall) really hard with no town gov counterclaims.

I'd like to know why that means I get called a cheater...

Regardless, there will never be a cheating reoffense, because I never cheated to begin with. Never had a cheating report on me in 5 years, but I guess false accusations even can hook you every once and a while.