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    S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    S-FM Super Basic :

    Mafioso
    Consort

    Sheriff
    Doctor
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen




    Roles :

    Mafioso :
    - Target someone during night to attack them, may perform the factional kill.
    - Shares a night chat with the Consort.

    Consort :
    - Target someone during night to roleblock them, may perform the factional kill.
    - Shares a night chat with the Mafioso.
    - Upon the death of the Mafioso, the Consort may use the factional kill while roleblocking.

    Sheriff :
    - Target someone during night to see if they're a Mafioso or Town.

    Doctor :
    - Target someone during night to heal them, preventing them from being killed.
    - If the target is healed, they're informed of being healed but not the Doctor.

    Citizen :
    - You're a Citizen.



    Order of Actions :
    - Consort
    - Doctor
    - Mafioso & Sheriff



    Base Mechanics :
    - Both day and nights last 24 hours.
    - The game starts during Day 1 with Lynch enabled.
    - Actions are performed and night chats are used during night.
    - There's no Last Will here and roles are revealed upon death.

    Lynching :
    - Players may use [vote] to vote for a player to be lynched.
    - Only way for a player to get lynched is if the majority of players vote for them. (51%, half rounded up or +1 during no decimals)
    - If players decide to lynch early, the day will remain locked until the intended end of day.

    Win Condition :
    - Mafia must either be at majority or at equal number of players as town members.
    - Town must get rid of the Mafia.



    Rules :
    - Players must be active. The host determines what active is and what isn't.
    - Gamethrowing is not allowed. (purposely throwing the game so your team loses)
    - Videos are not allowed unless under a spoiler tag, and the video must not have any sort of autoplay.
    - Pictures (still or animated) are allowed in moderation.
    - English is a required language to use. You may joke with a few words, but entire sentences can't be of a different language.
    - Players may not post material from private messages or material from night chats, may it be text or screenshots.
    - To the above rule, Paraphrasing is allowed in the context of feedback and your role, as long it's not gamethrowing.
    - Basic forum rules apply (harassment, excessive bad language, talking about a game during progress, et cetera)
    Last edited by RLVG; October 20th, 2017 at 04:25 PM.

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Cop" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    Last edited by deathworlds; August 19th, 2017 at 03:11 PM. Reason: Doctor =/= Cop

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    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Doctor" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    Hm, you do make a fair point.

    Should I buff the Mafia so that there's a Mafioso and an Escort instead, with Escort becoming a Mafioso upon death?

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Hm, you do make a fair point.

    Should I buff the Mafia so that there's a Mafioso and an Escort instead, with Escort becoming a Mafioso upon death?
    I would think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Doctor" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    i think the setup's balanced as is. Usually in this type of setup, a mafia has to claim sheriff to have some sort of chance.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    i think the setup's balanced as is. Usually in this type of setup, a mafia has to claim sheriff to have some sort of chance.
    I don't know if its my place to say anything; I've just played this setup a bunch of times.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I don't know if its my place to say anything; I've just played this setup a bunch of times.
    Everyone is welcome to voice their opinions! I would love some insight to the nature of balance for the setup, as I have not played this setup specifically before.

    I did do a bit of research however.

    This setup is similar to Pie E7, a setup on mafiascum that is almost the same, with the only difference in the setups being that there is a mafia aligned escort. I've read discussions on whether the consort can perform a kill AND roleblock at the same time, that argument is irrelevant in this case, but they all agreed that the mafia should at least HAVE the consort in order to prevent a game breaking town strategy (Follow the Cop).

    Do you have links to the games you have played before? I'd like to take a look at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Everyone is welcome to voice their opinions! I would love some insight to the nature of balance for the setup, as I have not played this setup specifically before.

    I did do a bit of research however.

    This setup is similar to Pie E7, a setup on mafiascum that is almost the same, with the only difference in the setups being that there is a mafia aligned escort. I've read discussions on whether the consort can perform a kill AND roleblock at the same time, that argument is irrelevant in this case, but they all agreed that the mafia should at least HAVE the consort in order to prevent a game breaking town strategy (Follow the Cop).

    Do you have links to the games you have played before? I'd like to take a look at them.
    EpicMafia has this as one of their core setups 7 player setups.

    On Day 1, Mafia and Sheriff claim Sheriff. On Day 2 Sheriff outs his claim, and Mafia comes out with a clear or mafia. (They're okay in this situation as long as they don't guilty the doctor). Typically at this point its 4 v 2. Optimal thing is to skip because cop makes it to next day and villagers get clues. Day 3 decides game in which a cop is lynched. If mafia gets lynched, cop has the clears. If cop gets lynched, town loses.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    EpicMafia has this as one of their core setups 7 player setups.

    On Day 1, Mafia and Sheriff claim Sheriff. On Day 2 Sheriff outs his claim, and Mafia comes out with a clear or mafia. (They're okay in this situation as long as they don't guilty the doctor). Typically at this point its 4 v 2. Optimal thing is to skip because cop makes it to next day and villagers get clues. Day 3 decides game in which a cop is lynched. If mafia gets lynched, cop has the clears. If cop gets lynched, town loses.
    Why not immediately lynch between the two sheriff claims? You either lynch sheriff, and lynch mafia the next day; or lynch mafia, and have a doctor'd sheriff for the rest of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Why not immediately lynch between the two sheriff claims? You either lynch sheriff, and lynch mafia the next day; or lynch mafia, and have a doctor'd sheriff for the rest of the game.
    if you lynch the sheriff in 4v2, it becomes 2v2

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    if you lynch the sheriff in 4v2, it becomes 2v2
    It's 5v2 at game start, it would be 3v2. Then 2v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    It's 5v2 at game start, it would be 3v2. Then 2v1.
    if you can't lynch d1, mafia gets a kill off n1, its 4v2 come day 2.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    if you can't lynch d1, mafia gets a kill off n1, its 4v2 come day 2.
    Ah, my bad. I'll take a closer look shortly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    After playing this game in private under multiple scenarios, it's better to add a consort.



    1. Mafia claims Sheriff, Sheriff claims Sheriff.
    Either of them are lynched, it's a 50-50 (50% chance) to get the Sheriff down, which is more just luck based.
    Lynch Mafia and the Doctor will camp the confirmed Sheriff who may or may not find the next Mafia.
    Lynch Sheriff and it's a standard Citizen game with a Doctor.

    2. Sheriff claims, Mafia doesn't claim.
    Easiest fucking game ever.

    3. Mafia claims Sheriff, Sheriff doesn't
    Dafuq is wrong with the Sheriff? The Sheriff will be auto-lynched later on, and it'll be seen as a gamethrow most likely.

    4. Both Mafia claims Sheriff and the Sheriff may or may not claim Sheriff.
    What the heck is wrong with this game? Sheriff Claims, and suddenly 3 Sheriffs - concluded. Either it's 2 mislynches, or game is won by a single mafia lynch.

    5, 6, 7...



    So that said, I'm changing the Mafia so that there's a Consort here.

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    You should add that Consort can roleblock and kill at the same time if they are alone. It makes the game more balanced.

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    You should add that Consort can roleblock and kill at the same time if they are alone. It makes the game more balanced.
    ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Final Question phase:

    Will day 1 lynch be enabled?

    Does the consort have the ability to perform both the kill and the roleblock upon the death of the Mafioso?

    @RLVG

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Final Question phase:

    Will day 1 lynch be enabled?

    Does the consort have the ability to perform both the kill and the roleblock upon the death of the Mafioso?

    @RLVG
    Sorry for the late reply.

    1. Consort will have the ability to both kill and roleblock upon the death of the Mafioso.
    2. The day will be Day 1 with lynch enabled.
    Last edited by RLVG; October 20th, 2017 at 04:25 PM.

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