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  1. ISO #1

    Pallas: 1-S2-1-3647415, Greghouse: 1-S2-1-2799576

    Account Name 1: Greghouse
    Account ID 1: 1-S2-1-2799576
    In-Game Name: 1 Giacobbe the Fat

    Account Name 2: Pallas
    Account ID 2: 1-S2-1-3647415
    In-Game Name 2: Cult Cabana

    Crimes Committed: Gamethrowing

    Your Account Name: Keaton
    Summary:

    Game starts, #1 rolls Escort and #6 rolls Spy. Day 2, #6 (spy) claims to be investigator and that #10 (Veteran) is mafia. #10 is trialed and claims to be a veteran that was on alert. He suggests that 6 could not have investigated him or else he would have died. #10 is voted innocent and #6 is put on trial. #6 says "Kill me. I'm guilty of starting shit. Hehehe" and offers no role or last will. #6 is lynched and flips as Spy. He laughs about his actions in the graveyard and leaves the game. A clear cut game-throw.

    Fast forward to day 5. #13(Investigator) flips as dead and his last will indicates that #15 has Kidnapping and Murder as crimes, suggesting jailor. #1 (Escort) attempts to lead a lynch against #15 (Jailor) saying he could be SK. This results in #1 being put on trial. During his trial, #1 claims "I'm a fuckin whore" (which presumably means escort or consort), but doesn't clarify or offer a last will. The town asks for a proper defense, which he doesn't offer and is lynched. #1 flips as escort and his full last will is posted.

    The following day, it's 2 Serial Killers vs. 2 Town. Town loses as a result. Both #1 and #6 deliberately sabotaged the town by refusing to offer a proper defense including roles and last wills when requested.

    This type of behavior is becoming more and more frequent in SC2 mafia and it's ruining the community. Both players can be seen laughing about how their behavior impacted the game in the graveyard or end game chat. They clearly have no remorse for their actions. I'm on the verge of quitting this game entirely to avoid toxic players like the individuals in this report. I humbly request that more severe punishments are employed against trolls and gamethrowers to disincentivize this type of behavior before the game becomes completely unplayable.
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    Last edited by Reverse Cowgirl; April 6th, 2017 at 04:09 PM. Reason: Added in-game name for Pallas

  2. ISO #2

    Re: Pallas: 1-S2-1-3647415, Greghouse: 1-S2-1-2799576

    SC ID Verification
    Pallas: Correct: 1-S2-1-3647415
    greghouse: Correct: 1-S2-1-2799576

    Players Added to Report
    N/A

    Respective Hotkeys
    Pallas: 2
    greghouse: 8

    Was the Game Result Altered?
    Yes, greghouse threw his win condition being a Spy.

    Previous Offenses
    Pallas
    Griefing (On-Hold)

    greghouse: None

    Player Offenses
    Pallas: Griefing
    greghouse: Intentional Gamethrowing


    Summary
    Regular 9-3-3 save. Pallas rolls Escort in slot 1 and greghouse rolls Spy in slot 6.

    Night 1, Pallas roleblocks #2.

    Day 2, greghouse fakes claim saying #10 was mafia, which causes the Town to vote up #10. #10 claims Veteran, who was on Alert last night. #10 is pardoned and they vote up greghouse. During his defense, greghouse says "kill me" "i am guilty" "of starting shit" "hehehhe". He is lynched and flip Spy.
    Night 2, Pallas roleblocks #11.

    Day 3, #12 (Crier) reveals himself and tries to lead the Town, but they have no leads so they all skip.
    Night 3, Pallas roleblocks #7.

    Day 4, #15 (Jailor) reveals himself and says #7 is mafia, since he jailed a Consort before. They vote up #7 and lynch, flip Godfather.
    Night 4, Pallas roleblocks #9.

    Day 5, Pallas makes a comment about how #15 is a possible Serial Killer despite a dead Investigator's last will confirming #15 as Jailor. So Pallas votes for #15 but the Town affirms that #15 is Jailor and they vote up Pallas instead. He doesn't claim a role, but says "did you not read 13's lw you idiots", and as soon as the defense time runs out, he does not claim Escort but he says he RBed 9 and 7 "the night before", with 9 not confirming his roleblock (being a Serial Killer). However, Pallas is lynched and flip Escort.

    From that point afterward, the two Serial Killers get in a tie with the Town, so they kill the Jailor and lynch the Veteran. Game ends in Serial Killer win.

    Post-game, Pallas was talking to the reporter in the game, taunting him saying if he did throw this game one, and that the reporter was going to report him.

    ----

    I only put it as Griefing for Pallas because he was trying to taunt the reporter during midgame after his lynch and actively sought for him post-game as well. While it could be a poor play on what Pallas did during his trial, I am starting to think he did it on purpose (intentionally not sharing his last will), and made it difficult to work during a critical part of the game, but it isn't enough of evidence to put him as if he was trying to lose on purpose.


    Recommended Action(s)
    Pallas: Watch-list x2
    greghouse: Watch-list x2

    Additional Comments
    Thank you for this report!
    Last edited by Alright; April 8th, 2017 at 12:19 PM.

  3. ISO #3

    Re: Pallas: 1-S2-1-3647415, Greghouse: 1-S2-1-2799576

    I'm sorry, but this conclusion is unacceptable regarding Pallas. Your position appears to be that ignoring leads from confirmed investigative roles, and refusing to claim a role & last will during trial somehow does not constitute game throwing. Do you really think the game works if individuals play in this manner? Without leads, roles and last wills, every game would just be a series of random lynches.

    If this community's official position is that refusing to offer a defense including an actual role claim and last will does not constitute a game throw, you are literally giving trolls an loophole for how to ruin the game. It's one thing if the player doesn't have a last will because they have been afk or are new and don't understand the meta. It's a completely different thing when that player has all of the desired information stored in their last will and they just refuse to copy paste it during their trial.

    I'm not trying to be difficult or vindictive. I'm just attempting to defend the integrity of the game and this community. Frankly, if this type of behavior isn't seen as game throwing, no type of behaviour should be seen as game throwing. The only crimes that would be reportable would be leave-training, role-quitting and hacking.

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    Re: Pallas: 1-S2-1-3647415, Greghouse: 1-S2-1-2799576

    Marked Audit
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  7. ISO #7

    Re: Pallas: 1-S2-1-3647415, Greghouse: 1-S2-1-2799576

    Given it's been months since this thread has been last updated the x2 WL on Pallas is the punishment that Pallas received for this report.
    Unfortunately we cannot punish people for making poor choices regarding decision making and that seems to be the main argument for gamethrowing here. However, Pallas was definitely guilty of Griefing and time was served.

    Thank you for your patience!
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