S-FM 222: Black Flag Nightless (2.0)

[yzb25]

Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff

I mean the first Nightless game, not your first game ever lol. I mean, if I made a setup sequel and handpicked rather than RNG'd, I'd take people's last roles into consideration ^^.

Hmm. How about me? I've only played one more scumgame since Instant Mafia, and I didn't do much better. Why wouldn't you consider prodding me?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Wait wait, I thought that you said that you would vote me for a policy lynch but you heard I was improved. But you actually are not going to vote me because now I may or may not be better at camouflaging my secret mafiareino / piraterino agenda?

Probably better than Whad. Like I said, we'll see if that is actually true.

[Iced_Monopoly]

OMG GUYS GYRLANDER DONATED

Im not going to vote her for 'host meta' on d1. Il wait until I actually see her doing something scummy. Which given this sites tendancy to do jack shit D1, will probably happen on D2 or later.

[Gyrlander]

OMG GUYS GYRLANDER DONATED

I may or may not have donated.

[Titus]

She takes a vodka drink
She takes a vodka drink

She gets knocked down
She gets up again

Oh yeah I ain't never staying down

[Iced_Monopoly]

I mean the first Nightless game, not your first game ever lol. I mean, if I made a setup sequel and handpicked rather than RNG'd, I'd take people's last roles into consideration ^^.

Hmm. How about me? I've only played one more scumgame since Instant Mafia, and I didn't do much better. Why wouldn't you consider prodding me?

Honestly I have no recollection of BFN The First. Il get round to prodding you eventually, patience my child.

[Mesk514]

scum will obvi be on my train guys, im willing to go for science!
but when i flip, get crypt, orpz and mattzed

[Titus]

scum will obvi be on my train guys, im willing to go for science!
but when i flip, get crypt, orpz and mattzed

Is this serious?

[Cryptonic]

Im not going to vote her for 'host meta' on d1. Il wait until I actually see her doing something scummy. Which given this sites tendancy to do jack shit D1, will probably happen on D2 or later.

That is fair enough. At long as a reason exists for you to buddy her

However, I'm not voting her because of host meta. I'm voting her for attempting (even in joke) to use host meta to read someone as scum, while host meta could also dictate that she was scum. Yet, she didn't address that.
Is this a good read? No, absolutely not lol.
Is it the best so far on D1? Yea, I think so.

[SuperJack]

Born Ronald Ephen Wilkerson in Chickasaw County, Mississippi, where he was raised by five aunts, Titus Andromedon had no choice but to stay in the closet, and an extremely awkward time in high school, stuck as a popular kid on the football team who girls wanted to have sex with all the time. He was selected prom king during high school. He remained in the closet until his wedding day to childhood friend Vonda Jeanne Brooks. The thought of the wedding night was too much for him and he fled the reception without saying goodbye, travelling to New York to begin a new life under a new name, Titus Andromedon.

Titus is openly gay, and is an aspiring Broadway performer. He auditioned for The Lion King on Broadway at least 20 times and never got in because he never came off as straight. He tried to put on his own production, but only got one audience member, who had simply come to show him copyright laws.

His rival is Coriolanus Burt (James Monroe Iglehart), who beat him for the role of Sharecropper #2/Cow in Alabama!, an all black version of Oklahoma!, by running onto the stage in the middle of his performance at callbacks and announcing the death of Gianni Versace.

Titus rents from Lillian Kaushtupper (Carol Kane), and makes a few bucks by walking around dressed as an Iron Man-esque character. Kimmy Schmidt (Ellie Kemper) becomes his roommate, and convinces him to return the costume and get back his investment fee, which, with some effort, he does.

Unfortunately, the money ($200) is stolen from him after Titus awkwardly sang "I'll Make Love to You" at a random man's funeral. He later gets fancy new headshots taken, and gets an agent. He then auditions for the role of Spider-Man #12 in the musical Spider-Man Too: 2 Many Spider-Men, a parody of Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark and over-crowded superhero movies. However, after humiliating Coriolanus when he loses as well, he is happy because he realizes the Alabama! role wasn't the big break he thought it was.

Titus then makes a music video of an original song, titled "Peeno Noir" meaning An Ode to Black Penis. Lillian films it for him, though finding the exact location is hard (including a bat-infested chandelier factory). As a result, he helps Xanthippe Voorhees clean up after her drunken party, in order to shoot the video in her house and keep from getting Kimmy fired.

Kimmy then gets Titus a gig singing at Jacqueline Voorhees' dinner party, where he meets the owner of a spooky-themed singing restaurant, where he gets a part as a Frankenwolf. He auditions for a part at the restaurant with a monologue, but after he doesn't get it, he takes very intense acting lessons about how to act like a straight man.

Titus drags Kimmy down to Indiana for the trial of Rev. Richard Wayne Gary Wayne, where he takes all the TV and radio shows for her. One TV show starts without him realizing, causing his viral video Gonna Be Famous (Remix) to become an Internet hit. This video later led to Titus' wife Vonda, who believed he was dead, arriving in Indiana to see him.

At the start of the show's second season, Vonda attempts to sue Titus for spousal support; however, as Titus was legally declared dead in 2008, Vonda's lawsuit couldn't go forward. It was later revealed that Vonda wanted an apology from Titus, which he initially refused though Kimmy pushed him to do so. He eventually did apologize to Vonda at the train station, and the two reconciled as friends. Titus, who was often resistant to relationships because he felt he would be let down at the end, later became involved with a construction worker named Mikey Politano, who was initially struggling with his sexuality and would eventually come out with the help of Titus.

He also began workshopping his new musical Kimono You Didn't: Murasaki's Journey, about his past life as a geisha, which initially sparked internet controversy but was ultimately well-received, and, after being promoted to Spooky Gravedigger, quit his job at Dr. Dracula's Spooky Lab & Bar & Grill. He then booked a Miami cruise called Mahogany starring Dionne Warwick.

-vote Cryptonic

Its way to early to get this much information on a player. Case of TMI.

[Cryptonic]

I may or may not have donated.

Well, regardless, welcome to the club of cool kids. Hopefully you receive your complementary hat and t-shirt in the mail soon.

[SuperJack]

I may or may not have donated.

=)

[Cryptonic]

-vote Cryptonic

Its way to early to get this much information on a player. Case of TMI.

Lmao Actually laughed out loud at this. 10/10

[SuperJack]

Well, regardless, welcome to the club of cool kids. Hopefully you receive your complementary hat and t-shirt in the mail soon.

Its called Sigal. Do not forget it.

[Gyrlander]

Mesk doesn't do scummy things. She just... does things.

[SuperJack]

Mesk doesn't do scummy things. She just... does things.

You praise the wrong God you nincompoop.

[SuperJack]

scum will obvi be on my train guys, im willing to go for science!
but when i flip, get crypt, orpz and mattzed

Lol Bias at FM Staff.

[Iced_Monopoly]

That is fair enough. At long as a reason exists for you to buddy her

However, I'm not voting her because of host meta. I'm voting her for attempting (even in joke) to use host meta to read someone as scum, while host meta could also dictate that she was scum. Yet, she didn't address that.
Is this a good read? No, absolutely not lol.
Is it the best so far on D1? Yea, I think so.

Fair enough

[Mesk514]

I am a god when it comes to this game, Im happy Gyrlander can finally appreciate me.

[yzb25]

@Mesk514 Even if you genuinely wish to martyr yourself, how can you expect people to actually follow you upon your death with that skint-ass reasoning? Unless you're a really influential player, you're unlikely to have your reads sheeped after death.

[Cryptonic]

I am a god when it comes to this game, Im happy Gyrlander can finally appreciate me.

Exactly. Why do you think we need to lynch you. You will rickroll us if ur mafias

[Titus]

Whad (1 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly
Iced_Monopoly (1 [L-5]):
yzb25
Mesk514 (3 [L-3]):
Titus, Cryptonic, Orpz
Cryptonic (2 [L-4]):
Gyrlander, SuperJack

Push back on Crypt is interesting. If Mesk is scum, Gyr or SJ is a good candidate for a partner.

[Gyrlander]

I am a god when it comes to this game, Im happy Gyrlander can finally appreciate me.

I'll always vote you for most improved player.

[yzb25]

holy FUCK Mesk got us

-vote Mesk514

She's gots to go

Dafuq Orpz just made these two posts one after the other then left. Literally jumping on the bandwagon >.>

[Whad]

Why hello there everyone! Glad to be back at it and back in it with all of you.

I shall be back in half an hour. This seems like a good place to start until then.

-vote Whad

Hey dude, really hope there are no hard feelings from last game. I remember you were a bit upset. We cool? If this is just RVS and we cool then I LIKE IT.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Since Whads not here yet, and everyone else has checked in, Il make my case for a D1 lynch on him as follows, and encourage others to vote for him.

Whad is the most likely player from this group of players to reveal the most information when facing pressure, and an eventual lynch.

If Whad remains quiet throughout his amounting pressure, and volunteers little to no information (reads, thoughts, strategies etc.) then it will all but confirm him as scum (imo) as it contradicts his usual play.

If Whad remains vocal, we will probably be able to glean more information from him (than any other player) and, in conjuction with the interactions he has with every other player in the game, have a decent position to move forward with on D2.

Obviously the second point is true for any player in this nightless setup, but I believe Whad will be most beneficial out of all the candidates.

These assumptions are biased toward Whad being scum, but this opportunity to have a good footing D2 still exists if he is town.


If anyone disagrees, feel free to post, given this strategy is based on my own meta read of whad. Chime in if its incorrect, or you feel someone is better.

[Gyrlander]

Whad (1 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly
Iced_Monopoly (1 [L-5]):
yzb25
Mesk514 (3 [L-3]):
Titus, Cryptonic, Orpz
Cryptonic (2 [L-4]):
Gyrlander, SuperJack

Push back on Crypt is interesting. If Mesk is scum, Gyr or SJ is a good candidate for a partner.

I can see how you got there, but it is so horrible reasoning that I will ignore it.

[Cryptonic]

Wow that's embarrassing, Iced

[yzb25]

Why hello there everyone! Glad to be back at it and back in it with all of you.



Hey dude, really hope there are no hard feelings from last game. I remember you were a bit upset. We cool? If this is just RVS and we cool then I LIKE IT.

What do you think about the possibility Ice is trying to push you as scum because he thinks you may prove easy to frame? You've been misunderstood in the past as town I believe.

[Mesk514]

im innocent, i swear

[Mesk514]

by the way, im so happy to see Whad back!
i missed you my love <3

[yzb25]

im innocent, i swear

Stop with the weak ass "oooh I'm acting so shady by repeatedly calling myself innocent I ironically look like town" shit and fucking talk to me!

@Mesk514 Even if you genuinely wish to martyr yourself, how can you expect people to actually follow you upon your death with that skint-ass reasoning? Unless you're a really influential player, you're unlikely to have your reads sheeped after death.

I LITERALLY pinged! You are LITERALLY the worst for not answering me.

Ansur me u sneeky litul poopoo!

[Gyrlander]

by the way, im so happy to see Whad back!
i missed you my love <3

Stop saying bluff shit and start giving some important, relevant and sexy information that we can use in different ways.

[Whad]

Whoops, mistell!

If anything, host meta would leave me as cit. Unknown doesnt want me to have any fun, and would enjoy seeing my d1 mislynch

Anyways, I still think Whad is the most appropriate player to be lynching D1. Id vote Gyr, but I hear he's improved, guess we'll see how that pans out.

Town only gets 3 mislynches. It's hugely irresponsible to push policy lynches in a setup like this.

If anything, Host Meta would have Unknown make Mesk finally non-Citizen in a game that only has Citizens for Town.
Which is ironic that Mesk would try to use Host Meta but entirely ignore this fact.

INTERESTING

-vote Mesk514

So far, Mesk seems like town Mesk to me. Just based on the general attitude.

Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff

Oh if you're actually voting me to try to get a read and not b/c of policy from the last game... then I LIKE IT

[Mesk514]

Stop with the weak ass "oooh I'm acting so shady by repeatedly calling myself innocent I ironically look like town" shit and fucking talk to me!



I LITERALLY pinged! You are LITERALLY the worst for not answering me.

Ansur me u sneeky litul poopoo!

because i have good reasoning, look at everyone gang banging me right off the back. im clearly inno

[Mesk514]

INNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Gyrlander]

INNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO

I SERIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO VOTE YOU BUT YOU'RE MAKING IT REALLY DIFFICULT.

[yzb25]

because i have good reasoning, look at everyone gang banging me right off the back. im clearly inno

@Everyone else

Will you lynch Orpz, Mattzed and Cryptonic if Mesk flips innocent, because they pressure voted her too quickly (even though Matt hasn't even gotten on yet and hasn't voted Mesk)?

I refuse to believe you actually think this way. This martyr shit is clearly an excuse to do jack >.<

[Iced_Monopoly]

Town only gets 3 mislynches. It's hugely irresponsible to push policy lynches in a setup like this.



So far, Mesk seems like town Mesk to me. Just based on the general attitude.



Oh if you're actually voting me to try to get a read and not b/c of policy from the last game... then I LIKE IT

3 mislynches yes, but given the nature of D1, its statistically more likely to be a mislynch anyways. Why not atleast utilise this opportunity to get the most information from a player for D2 onwards? Do you disagree with my strategy, or the fact that youre the centerpiece in it?

If its the strategy, how would you approach the D1 lynch given youre so worried about the number of mislynches we have?

[yzb25]

Considering you always go on about the site having no common sense and shit Mesk, this is triggering AF.

[SuperJack]

@Everyone else

Will you lynch Orpz, Mattzed and Cryptonic if Mesk flips innocent, because they pressure voted her too quickly (even though Matt hasn't even gotten on yet and hasn't voted Mesk)?

I refuse to believe you actually think this way. This martyr shit is clearly an excuse to do jack >.<

People just be a load of old wankers in the Early game.
Anywho Cryptonic is Scum. I made my case earlier.

[Iced_Monopoly]

@Everyone else

Will you lynch Orpz, Mattzed and Cryptonic if Mesk flips innocent, because they pressure voted her too quickly (even though Matt hasn't even gotten on yet and hasn't voted Mesk)?

I refuse to believe you actually think this way. This martyr shit is clearly an excuse to do jack >.<

If anything, mesks comments seemed like a joke, as did the votes made by others.

Im not particularly alarmed by the Orpz vote, although his absense afterwards is something to look at.
If anything from that wagon, titus is the one to look at. Didnt even offer a reason to join, nor was she mentioned by mesk (the others at least were)

[SuperJack]

3 mislynches yes, but given the nature of D1, its statistically more likely to be a mislynch anyways. Why not atleast utilise this opportunity to get the most information from a player for D2 onwards? Do you disagree with my strategy, or the fact that youre the centerpiece in it?

If its the strategy, how would you approach the D1 lynch given youre so worried about the number of mislynches we have?

Should Policy lynch Orpz but w/e

[Gyrlander]

People just be a load of old wankers in the Early game.
Anywho Cryptonic is Scum. I made my case earlier.

W-wa-wait... do you mean... this case?

-vote Cryptonic

Its way to early to get this much information on a player. Case of TMI.

[SuperJack]

W-wa-wait... do you mean... this case?

Yeh, I wasn't subtle. He said a bunch of words, it included Titus. Not dug into it yet but I'll do it when I'm not drowning my sorrows on a non-existent cup of tea.

[Whad]

Since Whads not here yet, and everyone else has checked in, Il make my case for a D1 lynch on him as follows, and encourage others to vote for him.

Whad is the most likely player from this group of players to reveal the most information when facing pressure, and an eventual lynch.

If Whad remains quiet throughout his amounting pressure, and volunteers little to no information (reads, thoughts, strategies etc.) then it will all but confirm him as scum (imo) as it contradicts his usual play.

If Whad remains vocal, we will probably be able to glean more information from him (than any other player) and, in conjuction with the interactions he has with every other player in the game, have a decent position to move forward with on D2.

Obviously the second point is true for any player in this nightless setup, but I believe Whad will be most beneficial out of all the candidates.

These assumptions are biased toward Whad being scum, but this opportunity to have a good footing D2 still exists if he is town.


If anyone disagrees, feel free to post, given this strategy is based on my own meta read of whad. Chime in if its incorrect, or you feel someone is better.

Why do you think I'm the most likely to reveal information out of every player in this setup? It's not like there are roles in this setup besides citizen or goon so it's impossible I'd breadcrumb a PR claim.

Early D1, I think it's important to push lots of trains and not tunnel in on pushing a policy lynch on the one person you have a personal beef with. Can't tell yet if this sounds more like town with a vendetta or like scum trying to mislynch the low hanging fruit.

My thought is that since we only have 3 mislynches, it's best to use those on people who are HARD to read instead of people you think will be EASY to read/crack under pressure.

[Gyrlander]

Yeh, I wasn't subtle. He said a bunch of words, it included Titus. Not dug into it yet but I'll do it when I'm not drowning my sorrows on a non-existent cup of tea.

Oh, you as well? Dang, how cruel society is these days!

[Gyrlander]

Why do you think I'm the most likely to reveal information out of every player in this setup? It's not like there are roles in this setup besides citizen or goon so it's impossible I'd breadcrumb a PR claim.

Early D1, I think it's important to push lots of trains and not tunnel in on pushing a policy lynch on the one person you have a personal beef with. Can't tell yet if this sounds more like town with a vendetta or like scum trying to mislynch the low hanging fruit.

My thought is that since we only have 3 mislynches, it's best to use those on people who are HARD to read instead of people you think will be EASY to read/crack under pressure.

And why don't we check people that easily crack under pressure to see if they're evil and avoid lynching potential townies?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Why do you think I'm the most likely to reveal information out of every player in this setup? It's not like there are roles in this setup besides citizen or goon so it's impossible I'd breadcrumb a PR claim.

Early D1, I think it's important to push lots of trains and not tunnel in on pushing a policy lynch on the one person you have a personal beef with. Can't tell yet if this sounds more like town with a vendetta or like scum trying to mislynch the low hanging fruit.

My thought is that since we only have 3 mislynches, it's best to use those on people who are HARD to read instead of people you think will be EASY to read/crack under pressure.

No vendetta, Honestly dont recall the previous 'beef'. You acknowledge yourself as low hanging fruit though, interesting.

I agree that wiping out the better 'hard' to read players makes sense, as it allows weaker players to be easily exposed later, but then that also leaves weaker players to have to control the game, which could be worse than trying to decipher harder to read players. Also hard to read players may have less interactions with other players, so its more difficult to determine a team composition.

[Whad]

What do you think about the possibility Ice is trying to push you as scum because he thinks you may prove easy to frame? You've been misunderstood in the past as town I believe.

I think that it's too early to tell what Iced's intentions are, but I'll wait to see how he responds to my response to his post.