M-FM Overwatch

[Firebringer]

M-FM Overwatch [20 Players]

Role List


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Special Mechanics:
Game Mode: Each night players select a game mode to take part in. These modes are "Escort, Assault, or Control" Depending on game mode will give players certain power roles. Which you will know on your role card.

During Escort game mode-the "Defense" part of role card is the active part
During Assault game mode-the "Offense" Part of role card is the active part
During Control game mode-the "Support" Part of the role card is the active part

Characters: Your character will have 3 parts to their role card as mentioned above. Only one is active at a time.

Role Unconfirmed: Role list is the same for both factions. The only difference will be how you use it.

Role Cards:

These are the parts to your role card. You will have three sections.
Example Town Role Card:

Spoiler : Example :

Hello, You are aligned with the Town!
You win when all the Omnics are eliminated.

Defense Role:

Detective

Action: Target one player at night, learning who they targeted.
You will show up as Mafia to Sheriff check.

Offense Role:

Citizen

You have no night abilities

Support Role:

Doctor

Action: Target one player at night, protecting them from attacks.
Upon success the attacker is the only one informed of you succeeding.

Example Ominic Role Card:

Spoiler : Example :

Hello, You are aligned with the Omnic!
Your allies are A, B, C, D
You win when you and your allies control 50% of the vote.

Defense Role:

Spy

Action: Target a player to learn if they performed an action that night.
You can plant false feedback on your target instead if you please.
You will be informed if it was a Killing/Protective/Investigative action.

Offense Role:

Mason

Action: None
You may speak to the other Masons at any point.
Only if you are in the game mode your role exists in.

Support Role:

Vigilante

Action: Target one player at night, attacking them.
You can use a strong version of your attack which takes both charges and penetrates invulnerability.
2 charges

These are but examples of roles you can have in the game. There is countless possibilities.
Roles:

Spoiler : Citizen :

Citizen

You have no night abilities

Spoiler : Investigative :

Lookout

Action: Target one player at night, learning who targeted them.
If that person dies, their role and last will be given only to you.

Sheriff

Action: Check one player at night, learning their alignment.

Detective

Action: Target one player at night, learning who they targeted.
You will show up as Mafia to Sheriff check.

Coroner

Action: Target one dead player at night, learning their true role and last will.

Journalist

Action: Target one player during the day, allowing the target to write an anonymous message that will be displayed to the town the next day.

Architect

Action: Target two players during the day, giving them access to an night chat the follow night.
You can post one starting post in the chat and you can read it.

Spy

Action: Target a player to learn if they performed an action that night.
You can plant false feedback on your target instead if you please.
You will be informed if it was a Killing/Protective/Investigative action.

Spoiler : Protective :

Armorsmith

Action: Target one player at night, giving them a 1 use vest.
You can give out a fake vest and waste no charges.
3 charges total.

Body Double

Action: Target one player at night, dying instead of them if they are attacked
If you succeed your role and last will not be published.

Bulletproof

Action: None.
You are immune to attacks.
You show up as Mafia to Sheriff

Bus Driver

Action: Target two players at night, swapping night actions done on each other.
Your action can be hidden or informed of your choosing.

Doctor

Action: Target one player at night, protecting them from attacks.
Upon success the attacker is the only one informed of you succeeding.

Escort

Action: Target one player at night, roleblocking them.
Your targets are only informed if you chose so.

Jailkeeper

Action: Target one person during the day you will put them in jail, roleblocking them and protecting them from night kills
You will also be given night chat with them.
You cannot execute your target.

Mason

Action: None
You may speak to the other Masons at any point.
Only if you are in the game mode your role exists in.

Mason Leader

Action: Target one person at night, converting Citizens to Masons
You may speak to the other Masons at any point. (If you are in same game mode)
You have 1 charge of action. You can only speak to your mason if you are in the same game mode as this role card. I
If your target is not convertible you will be informed.

Spoiler : Killing :

Swordsmith

At night you may give a sword to another player.
That sword may be used by the player to kill a player by stabbing them during the day phase.
You can give out a fake sword.
If you are omnic, you cannot give a sword to your teammate
Fake swords will kill the user.
3 charges

Veteran

Action: Go on alert at night, attacking everyone who visits you.
If you are omnic you can only alert once.
2 Charges

Vigilante

Action: Target one player at night, attacking them.
You can use a strong version of your attack which takes both charges and penetrates invulnerability.
2 charges

Blacksmith

Action: Target one player at night, giving them either a 1-use gun or a 1-use vest.
You can give out a fake vest and waste no charges.
You cannot give a real gun to your teammate if you are omnic.
Fake gun usage will kill the user.
2 charges total

Jailor

Action: Target one person during the day you will put them in jail, roleblocking them and protecting them from night kills
You will also be given night chat with them.
You can execute your target on non lynching days.

Order of Operations:
0) Pre Night
a. Jailor/Jailkeeper jails.
b. architect creates chat (will be blocked by jailor/keeper)
c. journalist send article (will be blocked by jailor/keeper)
1) Protective
a. Vest used.
b. Escort blocks
c. Bus driver switches
d. Body double protects
e. Heal from Doctor
f. armorsmith gives vest/blacksmith gives gun/swordsmith gives sword
g. mason leader recruits
2) Killing
a. Veteran alerts (only kills those after in order)
b. Jailor execution
c. Omnic factional kil
d. Vigilante shoots
e. Blacksmith gun
3) Investigative
a. Sheriff checks
b. Coroner checks.
c. Detective/Lookout/Spy action
4) Night Ends

Rules of Conduct
1 No outside game communication
2 No editing posts
3 5 post per day chat minimum or you will be replaced
4 No videos or outside links.
5 Use only green color for asking the mod a question.
6 English only
7 Do not quote outside mod communication.
7 You can be subject to modkill/replacement if you break the above rules.


Miscellaneous:
Game is split with 72 hour days and 24 hour nights.
Last Wills are allowed
Suicide is not an option.
All deaths except for day kills, will not give you indication of if it was a town or omnic kill.
Game starts Day 1, theres a lynch Day 1.
Majority are required for a lynch.
Omnic have constant chat.
Omnic have a factional kill that any member can perform and won't take up their night action.

Feedback:

Spoiler : Feedback :

Sheriff-
If aligned = "Target is a Friend"
It not aligned = "Target is a Enemy"
Lookout-
Not visited = "Your target wasn't visited"
Failed check = "No result"
Visited by player(s) = "Your target was visited by X, Y, Z"
Detective-
Didn't visit = "Your target didn't visit anyone"
Failed check = "No result"
Visited player(s) = "Your target visited X and Y"
Coroner-
Successful = "Your targets role was X and last will was [here]"
Failed = "No result"
Journalist-
Successful article = [No Feedback]
No article published (dead or player didn't write) = "Your target didn't write a article"
Architect
Create chat = "You have created a chat with X and Y, you can find it here: [Link]"
Spy-
Check = "Your target performed a [Investigative/Protective/Killing] type action"
Fail action = "No result"
Plant feedback = "You have planted X feedback on your target"
Armorsmith-
Give out a real vest = "You have X charges left"
Give out a fake vest = "You have given out a fake vest"
Fail action = "No result"
Bulletproof-
Attacked = No feedback
Bus Driver-
Hidden driving = "You secretly switched X and Y places"
Public driving = "You switched X and Y place"
Failed action = "No result"
Escort- (hidden action will give other power roles their "failed action"
Failed action = "No result"
Hidden = "You decided to do a much...simpler tactic on your target"
Public = "You went to distract your target"
Jailkeeper/Jailor-
Jail = "You jailed your victim and can chat with them here [Link]
Execute (jailor only) = "You decided to kill your target"
Fail kill (Jailor only) = "You tried to kill your target....but it didn't turn out the way it was planned"
Mason Leader-
Succesful recruit = "You recruited X to join the mason"
Unsuccesful (player is pr/blocked)= "For whatever reason, you didn't succeed in recruiting your target"
Blacksmith-
Give out fake vest = "You have given out a fake vest"
Give out fake gun/real gun or vest = "You have given out fakegun/gun/vest you have X charges remaining"
Failed action = "No Result"
Vigilante-
Failed action (regardless of block) = "You didn't succeed in your attack, X charges remaining"
Success = "You killed your target, X charges remaining"
Strong attack = "You used your strong version and succeeded but have no charges left"
Veteran-
Use = "You have x charges remaining"
Swordsmith-
Give out fake sword = "You have given your target a fake sword you have x charges remaining"
Give real sword = "You have given your target a real sword you have x charges remaining"
Failed = "No result"

Feedback Given from other players actions-
Sword = "You were given a sword"
Roleblocked (if escort doesn't hide action) = "You were distracted last night and couldn't perform an action"
Bus Driven (if not hidden action) = "You were taken on a bus ride"
Gun = "You were given a gun"
Vest = "You were given a vest"
Playered healed (attacker only) = "The person you tried to kill was healed"

[SuperJack]

[secondpassing]

Yey

[Frozen Angel]

isn't this a bit scum aligned?

[Firebringer]

isn't this a bit scum aligned?

I must have been high when I made that Extra Kill mechanic. I will take that out....I don't know if I can do 5 scum in 20 player game...

Edit actually not. Its not.

Lets look worst case scenario:

Game Starts: 15v5
Lynch townie: 14v5
Kill two (First night): 12v5
Lynch townie: 11v5
Kill two (Second night, switched mod): 9v5
Lynch townie: 8v5
Kill two townie (Third night, switched mod): 6v5
Lynch townie and game ends on Day 4.

So this is 4 mislynches, and no other extra night kills.
I don't intend to add any town killing either btw.

[Firebringer]

I must have been high when I made that Extra Kill mechanic. I will take that out....I don't know if I can do 5 scum in 20 player game...

Edit actually not. Its not.

Lets look worst case scenario:

Game Starts: 15v5
Lynch townie: 14v5
Kill two (First night): 12v5
Lynch townie: 11v5
Kill two (Second night, switched mod): 9v5
Lynch townie: 8v5
Kill two townie (Third night, switched mod): 6v5
Lynch townie and game ends on Day 4.

So this is 4 mislynches, and no other extra night kills.
I don't intend to add any town killing either btw.

Its even much more mislynches if town vote to not switch modes.

[Frozen Angel]

a 5 players scum team is a very powerful team. by itself. giving them 2 killing in a night is just over powerful. I suggest you split them in 2 (3/2) mafia teams or turning one of them to an SK or something.

[Firebringer]

a 5 players scum team is a very powerful team. by itself. giving them 2 killing in a night is just over powerful. I suggest you split them in 2 (3/2) mafia teams or turning one of them to an SK or something.

I am just going to give them double kill for first night, I think that will balance it out alright.
Going to be adding role cards in a bit.

[DarknessB]

No neutrals in a setup of this size? Seems like you might want at least a couple of wild cards...

[Titus]

/pre-in or I can help design

[Firebringer]

I need to work on this >.>

[Firebringer]

Okay, I think thats all for rolecards.
Pretty simplistic rolecards.

Also going for a design of roles not confirming much. Sheriff nerfed to have a few roles that actually give false positives. Some roles have other negative utilities, like body double and lookout.

Any thoughts to this would help....


Need to do:
Make a OoO
Make feedback list.
Then rule list/miscellenous I guess.

[Kovath]

How do the players determine which game mode takes place? A vote with the requirement of no-repeats?

So a player can show up as guilty one night if they're detective for example, but then innocent the next when citizen?

[Firebringer]

How do the players determine which game mode takes place? A vote with the requirement of no-repeats?

So a player can show up as guilty one night if they're detective for example, but then innocent the next when citizen?

Vote takes place in pre game and every night phase. Game modes can be repeated for each cycle if the majority wish it.

Correct, if a person is checked twice by a sheriff in two different phases it might have conflicting results.

[Firebringer]

I am thinking of adding 3 variations of the Citizen.
One with always showing town results to Sheriff
One showing always Mafia results to Sheriff
And One thats whole rolecard will be wiped on death.

Thoughts on that?

[Kovath]

I am thinking of adding 3 variations of the Citizen.
One with always showing town results to Sheriff
One showing always Mafia results to Sheriff
And One thats whole rolecard will be wiped on death.

Thoughts on that?

I don't know too much about balancing but Sheriff already seems pretty weak in this setup to me. Which might be your intention (perhaps there will be quite a few of them due to the many players and the 3 parts of the role card?)

[Firebringer]

I don't know too much about balancing but Sheriff already seems pretty weak in this setup to me. Which might be your intention (perhaps there will be quite a few of them due to the many players and the 3 parts of the role card?)

The intention is to make it hard to confirm alignments. Though yes, in general Sheriff isn't OP in this game. I would like to give scum more option then to claim "BP" or "Detective" though if they were checked.

[deathworlds]

These are but examples of roles you can have in the game. There is countless possibilities.

So there is no real rolelist?

[Quick]

I cannot wait to play in this game. you guys are going to see a new me. @Helz guid changed the way I do this game entirely.

[Firebringer]

So there is no real rolelist?

No official role list. Those were example roles, which may or may not be in the game.
All roles for each section mode are in the setup though, just not the combination.

[deathworlds]

No official role list. Those were example roles, which may or may not be in the game.
All roles for each section mode are in the setup though, just not the combination.

That is the information I needed to know, thank you.

[deathworlds]

Is it intentional that the detective and bulletproof roles show up as mafia to sheriff checks?

If a person uses a sword during the day, are they revealed?

If someone dies during the day because of a sword, is their role immediately revealed, or at days end?

Does the jailors ability have charges?

What feedback can the spy plant?

Day/Night length?

Is cause of death revealed?

Last will / Deathnote?

Is role revealed upon death? If so, what is the purpose of the coroner?

Do the Omnic share a night chat?

Are lynches mandatory, or optional?

[Firebringer]

Is it intentional that the detective and bulletproof roles show up as mafia to sheriff checks?

If a person uses a sword during the day, are they revealed?

If someone dies during the day because of a sword, is their role immediately revealed, or at days end?

Does the jailors ability have charges?

What feedback can the spy plant?

Day/Night length?

Is cause of death revealed?

Last will / Deathnote?

Is role revealed upon death? If so, what is the purpose of the coroner?

Do the Omnic share a night chat?

Are lynches mandatory, or optional?

1) Yes it is.
2) Immediately
3) No, it is assumed that the game mode will not be static. I may adjust this before game start.
4) Any feedback; I will make a possible feedback list soon.
5) Days will be 72 hours/Nights will be 24 Hours
6) No, only cause of death revealed will be through sword/fake sword.
7) Only Last Wills (This will be in Miscellaneous)
8.) Roles normally appear upon death, however some roles interfere with flips. (See Lookout)
9) Omnic will share a constant chat.

[Orpz]

Congratulations on being chosen to host the next M-FM! If you want to use Anon accounts, please PM me a list of names for those accounts as soon as possible.

You may post signups now. However, do not start until the approval is given.

[Orpz]

I must have been high when I made that Extra Kill mechanic. I will take that out....I don't know if I can do 5 scum in 20 player game...

Edit actually not. Its not.

Lets look worst case scenario:

Game Starts: 15v5
Lynch townie: 14v5
Kill two (First night): 12v5
Lynch townie: 11v5
Kill two (Second night, switched mod): 9v5
Lynch townie: 8v5
Kill two townie (Third night, switched mod): 6v5
Lynch townie and game ends on Day 4.

So this is 4 mislynches, and no other extra night kills.
I don't intend to add any town killing either btw.

If you do not intend to add Town Killings, please edit this into the original post.

What do you mean by the role slot that's both Town and Omnic? Is it a Hidden Any?

[Orpz]

@Firebringer

This game's balance mostly depends on the host's selection of roles. I have every intention to sign up, but if you like, I can sit this game out to provide a review for your selected role list.

[Cryptonic]

If you want to play Orpz, I can help out. I forgot to respond to FBs PM

[Orpz]

If you want to play Orpz, I can help out. I forgot to respond to FBs PM

That'd be great! I'll let Crypt take over then

[Firebringer]

If you do not intend to add Town Killings, please edit this into the original post.

What do you mean by the role slot that's both Town and Omnic? Is it a Hidden Any?

I will not comment on roles list any further, but it is 100% possible for town killing to exist in this game. So do not stick any value into that claim, as that was my original opinion of it.

Yes, that slot is a town any so it could be 15-5 or 16-4.

I am going to correspond with Cryptonic to discuss role list possibilities.