Special Event: Cross Community (20 players)

[Frog]

Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Neutral Killing
Hidden Neutral Killing

Neutral Evil
Hidden Neutral Evil

Neutral Benign
Hidden Neutral Benign

Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town

Spoiler : Role Cards :

Role Cards

Amnesiac-
Choose a role at night from the graveyard and become that role
After choosing a role your investigative pairing will still show up as amnesiac
Town is not notified of the amnesiac role swap

Citizen/Survivor/Executioner-
No night action.

Crier/Insane Crier-
Submit a message at night to be displayed anonymously to the town the following day

Bodyguard-
Guard a player at night. Should they be attacked you will protect them. You will take the attack for them, and deal the damage back to the attacker. You cannot be healed to prevent death from a successful guard.
You may not guard yourself.

Coroner-
Autopsy a dead player at night.
You will learn their Role, What alignment killed them, What role killed them, Night Targets, and Last Will.

Detective-
Track a player at night. You will learn the player that they visited.
Your Track will bypass invisibility.

Doctor-
Heal a player at night (+1).
You can not target yourself to heal.

Lookout-
Watch a player at night to see who visited them.
You will observe all players that visit the Watched player.
Your Watch will bypass Invisibility.

Sheriff-
Check a player at night. You will learn the player's alignment.
Players will reflect as Town/Mafia/Neutral.
Neutral evil and Neutral Benign players will show up as town

Spy-
Spy on a player at night. You will detect any feedback that player gets.
You also detect the Mafia night kill.

Veteran-
Alert at night to kill all visitors. The kill doesn’t pierce immunity.
Can go on alert 2 times.

Vigilante-
Shoot someone at night and attempt to kill them.
You may not shoot yourself. 3x Charges.

Escort/Consort-
Role Block a player at night.
Should you role block an immune player you will be notified.
You can not target yourself for Role Block.
You are immune to role blocks

Investigator/Consigliere-
Inspect a player at night to learn their Investigator Pairing.
You can not Inspect yourself.

Journalist/Corrupt Journalist-
Interview a player during the day.
At the start of the following night the player will be notified of the interview and will write an Article for you to anonymously publish the following morning.
You may not Interview yourself.

Armorsmith/Armorsmith-
Armor a player with a manual use bullet proof vest or fake bullet proof vest at night.
They may use this bulletproof vest in addition to their night actions.
You may not give a bulletproof vest to yourself.
You may not target the same player consecutively.
Bulletproof vests protect from an infinite amount of basic night kills.
3x charges.
Only real vests use a charge.

Blacksmith/Blacksmith-
Arm a player with a 1-use gun or fake gun at night.
They must sacrifice their night action to use the gun at night.
Cannot give yourself a gun.
3x charges.
Only real guns use a charge.

Architect/Architect/Architect -
Target 2 people during the day to bring into a night chat anonymously together.
You get 1 post in the night chat before chat starts, sent in during the day.
You have permissions to read the night chat but not post.

Jailor/Kidnapper/Interrogator-
Jail a player during the day.
They are removed from any night chat the following night.
They are prevented from acting that night, regardless of Immunity to role block.
They are night immune while jailed.
You may anonymous interrogate them.
You may only execute following days in which a player was not lynched (1 charge)
Executions bypass all Invulnerability.
Captives are released at the start of the next day.
You may not Jail yourself.
Kidnapper can jail his teammates.

Bus Driver/Chauffeur/Charon-
Swap 2 players at night. Those that visit one will effect the other.
Should your swapping cause a killing role to attempt to kill itself it's attack will pierce invulnerability. You may swap yourself.
Chauffeurs may swap yourself, as well as any member of the Mafia.

Manipulator/Witch-
Manipulate a target at night and force them to visit a second target.
You may cause self targets.
You may send the manipulated target to yourself.
If your self target causes a killing role to visit itself it's kill will bypass night invulnerability.
Your manipulation gives no feedback.
Will be seen as visiting the player you manipulate

Blackmailer/Silencer-
Blackmail someone at night with a demand. Blackmailer can restrict someone to do anything besides vote or claim true role/alignment. You can not force a player to say a specific phrase or limit the amount of times they can post.
Player can’t reveal blackmail otherwise they will suicide at night that can’t be healed.
If the player does not follow the blackmail instructions they will suicide at night
Blackmailer must message the host pointing out their slip if they did not follow the blackmailers instructions
Host has final say in blackmailer conditions as well as if a player broke their blackmailed conditions

Beguiler-
Hide behind a target at night. Any night actions targeted at you will affect the target you hid behind. 3x Charges of hiding.

Framer-
Frame a player at night to appear to be Mafia and visiting the Mafia factional kill, or Forge a player at night, replacing any Last Will or Article they submit with your own (That night only)

Godfather-
Immune to night death, detection, and roleblocks. Attempted roleblocks will notify the godfather.

Mafioso-
Can act out mafia night kill.

Tailor-
Dress a player at night as either any possible role, or as ???.
The dressed player will appear as your dressing upon their death.
Dressing is permanent until you change it.
Can only attempt to tailor players 2 times, if role blocked they loose a charge

Tracker-
Track a player at night learning whom they visited
Or Watch a player at night observing all those that visited them.

Ventriloquist-
Possess a player at night.
You will be able to speak for them the following day.
You will be allowed to vote as them as well.
Cannot manipulate them 2 days in a row.
Possessed player can not talk while possessed.

Hitman-
Attack that pierces through all healing, bodyguards, role blocks, misdirections, bus drivings, and vests.
Can only preform this action 1 time

Mass Murderer-
Target someone to preform a spree killing at their house.
Anyone visiting that player will die
If the targeted player player preforms no action / doesn't move he will die
If multiple players are killed that night the Mass Murderer can not preform an action the following night
The Mass Murderer can self target
You are immune to night kills

Serial Killer-
Target someone at night to kill them
You are immune to night kills

Arsonist-
Target someone at night to douse them
Or ignite everyone you doused
Players do not know they are doused
You will douse any players attempting to role block you, but will not be able to ignite or douse anyone else.
You are immune to night kills

Toxicologist-
Target someone at night poisoning them, they will die at the end of the following day.
Target knows they are poisoned
You are immune to night kills

Spoiler : Investigator Pairings :

Invest Pairings

Architect/Architect/Architect/Jailor/Kidnapper/Interrogator
Armorsmith/Armorsmith/Blacksmith/Blacksmith/Escort/Consort/Executioner
Bus Driver/Chauffer/Charon
Citizen/Godfather/Arson/Serial Killer/Mass Murderer/Toxicologist/Survivor
Coroner/Tailor/Crier/Insane Crier/Journalist/Corrupt Journalist
Detective/Lookout/Manipulator/Witch//Tracker
Bodyguard/Doctor/Blackmailer/Silencer/Beguiler/Ventriloquist
Sheriff/Spy/Framer/Investigator/Consigliere
Veteran/Vigilante/Mafioso/HitmanAmnesiac

Spoiler : Night Feedback Messages :

Feedback

Anyone sent to kill:
You were sent to kill X.
Invulnerable kill:
You tried to kill X, but X was able to survive your attack!
Successful Vest loss:
You used your vest successfully!
Unsuccessful Vest loss:
You used your vest needlessly!
Any roles with charges:
You have X charges left.
Jailed targets:
You were captured, blindfolded and sent to jail! You may can speak to them on this account:
Username:
Password:
Disguiser:
You successfully disguised as X.
Username:
Password:
Ventriloquist::
You successfully took X as a puppet.
Username:
Password:
Investigator/Consigliere:
Through investigation, you have learned that X is (role pairing).
Tracker:
Through investigation, you have learned that X visited Y.
Through investigations, you have learned that Y, Z visited X.
Escort/Consort:
A pretty woman lured you to a private place for the night.
Spy/Spy:
Your Day Chat with X account:
Username:
Password:
Your Day Chat with Y account:
Username:
Password:
Your Day Chat with Z account:
Username:
Password:
A spy has chosen to speak with you.
Forger:
You has found X’s last will:
(last will)
Investigator:
Through investigation, you have learned that X is (pairing).
Sheriff:
Through investigation, you have learned that X is (alignment).
Lookout:
Through investigations, you have learned that Y, Z visited X.
Detective:
Through investigation, you have learned that X visited Y.
Doctor:
You were attacked last night! Luckily, a doctor came and saved your life!
Armorsmith/Gunsmith:
You have received a bulletproof vest/a gun!
Bodyguard:
You were attacked last night! However, a large man came and fought him off!
Veteran:
Someone tried to sneak upon you. You took immediate actions!


Roles that give feedback to others: Architect(End of Day Feedback), Armorsmith, Blacksmith, Bus Driver, Escort, Jailor(End of Day Feedback), Journalist(End of Day Feedback),Blackmailer, Chauffeur, Consort, Kidnapper(End of Day Feedback), Corrupt Journalist, Enforcer, and Technically when you get killed. Banshee Queen

Spoiler : Order of Operations :

OoO

Jailor Jails
Chats open
Vesting (Invulnerable)
Vet Alerts / Mass Murderer self targeting
Witch controls (Doesn't effect Bus Drivers)
Bus Driver/Chauffeur swaps
Role Blocks
Bodyguard protects / Doctor Heals (+1)
Arson Burns / Douses
Visited kills (-1)
Jailor Executes
All investigative actions/feedback
Amnesiac remembers role

Spoiler : Win Conditions :

Win Conditions

Mafia- Kill the town and neutral killing or gain majority vote power with the neutral killing dead
Town- Kill all Mafia, Neutral Evil, and Neutral killing
Neutral Evil- Survive to see the town loose (Not considered part of the mafia vote block for ending a game early)
Survivor- Survive until the end of the game
Amnesiac- Survive and achieve the win condition of the role you select
Crier/Jester- Get lynched
Executioner- Live to see your target get lynched
Neutral Killing- Eliminate the Mafia and Town

Special Mechanics / Rules-

You may submit a last will that will be revealed upon your death to the town
Com Hunting is not allowed
Com Claiming is not allowed
Players will be replaced at the hosts discretion
Pictures, Links and videos will be allowed/not allowed at the hosts discretion
Invisible text will be allowed/not allowed at the hosts discretion
Codes will be allowed/not allowed at the hosts discretion (Must not require outside programs / links to solve)
No out of game chat
No editing posts
No Advertising
Have fun above all else

Players
1 Anon 1
2 Anon 2
3 Anon 3
4 Anon 4
5 Anon 5
6 Anon 6
7 Anon 7
8 Anon 8
9 Anon 9
10 Anon 10
11 Anon 11
12 Anon 12
13 Anon 13
14 Anon 14
15 Anon 15
16 Anon 16
17 Anon 17
18 Anon 18
19 Anon 19
20 Anon 20

[Mathmatical]

/sign me up

/presign

[Helz]

This is just a spot for me and frog to work on a setup. ThingyMan will probably be the host and its still up in the air where it will be hosted. This is not the place to sign up at all.

[Helz]

Anyways- Frogs computer crashed to hell. This is something we through together in a few hours but I believe provides a decent framework for a balanced save. If anyone sees something out of place please speak up.

[Frog]

Computer is back!

Orpz, others, please help finish it :-)

Idea is we bring 10 players, another site brings 10 players. ThingyMan facilitates the cross-community game(s). The setup is rather basic on purpose but we can choose any M-FM proposal.

[Orpz]

The numbers alone look pretty balanced, I'll check the roles out later

[SuperJack]

It's nice. But I feel that without either unique mechanics/roles or some well-done favouring that this game may end up being a little boring to play.

[ika]

It's nice. But I feel that without either unique mechanics/roles or some well-done favouring that this game may end up being a little boring to play.

Considering basic is how most sites are i like it

Ill look into this later

[Cryptonic]

how loose is loose enough for Evil Neutral to win? lol

Edit: I also don't think this should be hosted in place of the M-FM, especially if it's hosted off-site. Not saying this shouldn't run, just saying that it shouldn't go on a poll and be voted on.

[DarknessB]

how loose is loose enough for Evil Neutral to win? lol

Edit: I also don't think this should be hosted in place of the M-FM, especially if it's hosted off-site. Not saying this shouldn't run, just saying that it shouldn't go on a poll and be voted on.

Agreed -- seems like this is a separate animal altogether, especially if half the participants aren't going to be from our site.

[SuperJack]

Considering basic is how most sites are i like it

Ill look into this later

Vanilla is nice. And I'm not saying to eat cornflakes. I also suggested just a different flavour.

[Cryptonic]

Vanilla is nice. And I'm not saying to eat cornflakes. I also suggested just a different flavour.

Even a Theme helps with that. If nothing else changed except faction names, would attract people lol

[SuperJack]

Even a Theme helps with that. If nothing else changed except faction names, would attract people lol

Precisely what I mean.
Either give it good flavour.
Or make it interesting.

[DarknessB]

Even a Theme helps with that. If nothing else changed except faction names, would attract people lol

PIRATES!

Precisely what I mean.
Either give it good flavour.
Or make it interesting.

Or add a Prime Minister!

[Frog]

Reality:

No one has yet created a setup for proposal so Helz and I made this basic template over a few hours. Neither of us has created a run game before.

Suggestion:

Make a setup so we can propose it.

We'll run a couple polls- suggested players, suggested setup.

First let's hammer a setup.

[Stealthbomber16]

Oh crap

My meta is useless here!

[Stealthbomber16]

S-FM Destinyville without role list.

ye

[Cryptonic]

Well, I mean someone can't host an M-FM without hosting an S-FM.... So... not including this in the M-FM Poll is a way around that rule, as a "special event".

There are also a lot of setups already created for the next poll.

[Firebringer]

From my understanding what is happening is:
Helz and Frog made a setup.

They are giving it to Thingyman who will host it on our site.

Their will be anon accounts.

10 players from their community will come over here to play
10 players from our community will play.

So, yeah. Special event and what not.

I am definitely /In

I gotta represent us, I am so awesome sauce.

[DarknessB]

From my understanding what is happening is:
Helz and Frog made a setup.

They are giving it to Thingyman who will host it on our site.

Their will be anon accounts.

10 players from their community will come over here to play
10 players from our community will play.

So, yeah. Special event and what not.

I am definitely /In

I gotta represent us, I am so awesome sauce.

We need an elite team of Bringers to represent SC2Mafia well. FireBringer, FrogBringer, HelzBringer, SuperBringer, etc.

[Firebringer]

We need an elite team of Bringers to represent SC2Mafia well. FireBringer, FrogBringer, HelzBringer, SuperBringer, etc.

Someone gets it.

[Mathmatical]

how do you guys change your names. i want in on this pirate theme

[DarknessB]

how do you guys change your names. i want in on this pirate theme

Post requests to this thread:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-Pirates-theme

[Funce]

We need an elite team of Bringers to represent SC2Mafia well. FireBringer, FrogBringer, HelzBringer, SuperBringer, etc.

Funcebringer standing by.

[Orpz]

I'm gonna change this title from an M-FM to a Special Event, since it's hosted off-site. I'm assuming this game will be hosted on Mafia Universe?

The bland setup template looks really nice, reminds me of Crypt's M-FM Castle Varen, and that was considered the most balanced game on the site. Everything looks in order; one thing that people have been suggesting, and I would suggest too, is to have a cool theme, even if it 's just a skin. That way basic Mafia mechanics stay intact but players get a chance to have some fun RP'ing.

[Firebringer]

I'm gonna change this title from an M-FM to a Special Event, since it's hosted off-site. I'm assuming this game will be hosted on Mafia Universe?

The bland setup template looks really nice, reminds me of Crypt's M-FM Castle Varen, and that was considered the most balanced game on the site. Everything looks in order; one thing that people have been suggesting, and I would suggest too, is to have a cool theme, even if it 's just a skin. That way basic Mafia mechanics stay intact but players get a chance to have some fun RP'ing.

Dude did you read my posts, its being hosted here.

[Orpz]

Dude did you read my posts, its being hosted here.

Yeah I thought it was just your speculation.
Frog PM'd me saying each site was writing a setup to submit.

[DarknessB]

one thing that people have been suggesting, and I would suggest too, is to have a cool theme, even if it 's just a skin. That way basic Mafia mechanics stay intact but players get a chance to have some fun RP'ing.

Cool themes can make all the difference in terms of immersion / overall experience. A cool theme with well-designed, detailed game cards and RP gives a very different feel than just vanilla plain host descriptions.

[SuperJack]

Suggest a theme then make a poll, and if needed send in a rp creator.

[Stealthbomber16]

Suggest a theme then make a poll, and if needed send in a rp creator.

Hi!

[DarknessB]

Suggest a theme then make a poll, and if needed send in a rp creator.

How about Doctor Who?

[SuperJack]

How about Doctor Who?

We have to do something for Americans. They don't understand some of the British complication.

[DarknessB]

We have to do something for Americans. They don't understand some of the British complication.

We don't -- I mean, just look at PM where everyone approached the game like an American. In most cases, they either didn't vote (much like a real American voter) or voted for themselves.

[Frog]

Plox submit a better M-FM setup than this flavourless variety.

Shoot me a pm if you're interested in cross community games.

If this game is successful we can have a better number for a series.

[Frog]

20 players setups:

1 scum, variety of neuts vs. town

2 opposing scum vs. town

Neut + Cult vs. town

Etc.

[Stealthbomber16]

Double cult vs Town

[DarknessB]

Double cult vs Town

I am for this as long as there are Cultists in Mason chat.

[Firebringer]

I am working on a theme for this game.

Giving the game a bit of flavor and direction.

The Theme is Star Wars Original Trilogy

Will have fleshed out rolecards fitting the theme soon.
Will keep you all posted.

[SuperJack]

Perfect! Suits the recent hype. And since we are all nerds it will be loved.

[DarknessB]

I am working on a theme for this game.

Giving the game a bit of flavor and direction.

The Theme is Star Wars Original Trilogy

Will have fleshed out rolecards fitting the theme soon.
Will keep you all posted.

How about the Star Trek Wars? Not to be confused with the Star Wars Trek:

https://www.cc.com/video-clips/g7nfup...tar-trek--wars

[VikeStep]

Hey there, I am from the FTB Forums, which is the forum you guys have apparently partnered up with. If any of you were following the 2nd season of the mafia championships earlier this year, I represented FTB Forums and played against TheDarkestLight (your representative)

Just a little bit about us: We are a forum community which came together over a minecraft modpack called Feed the Beast. Some time later we started playing werewolf on the forums, and we are currently playing our 56th game, which you can see here.

As you can see, we are not the most active of werewolf players, but a lot of our discussions exist in conversations, however I have given the people signing up a heads up about the kinds of activity you would all expect, and hopefully we can adjust to that and make it a great game.

If you want to see more about our werewolf community, we have an organisation thread over here

Another few notes about how we play in case we want to make some compromises:
- Our nights are instant, (powers that need to happen during the night need to be sent via PM during the day. A recap is posted as day ends and the next day starts immediately). I am sure that we will be fine having a non-instant night however.
- We have a get out of jail free card player we call "Nobody" on the first day which is essentially a person that everyone votes to be lynched day one, however this stems from us not being overly active when playing and we generally don't have enough information to go off at all day 1. I believe that we could adjust to not having this "nobody" character, since I have warned everyone about the kinds of activity we need here.

Also, what do you mean when you say No Com Hunting/Claiming? I'd say we may have a similar rule but not call it that.

[Mathmatical]

oh oh oh we could do a world of warcraft theme

[SuperJack]

Hey there, I am from the FTB Forums, which is the forum you guys have apparently partnered up with. If any of you were following the 2nd season of the mafia championships earlier this year, I represented FTB Forums and played against TheDarkestLight (your representative)

Just a little bit about us: We are a forum community which came together over a minecraft modpack called Feed the Beast. Some time later we started playing werewolf on the forums, and we are currently playing our 56th game, which you can see here.

As you can see, we are not the most active of werewolf players, but a lot of our discussions exist in conversations, however I have given the people signing up a heads up about the kinds of activity you would all expect, and hopefully we can adjust to that and make it a great game.

If you want to see more about our werewolf community, we have an organisation thread over here

Another few notes about how we play in case we want to make some compromises:
- Our nights are instant, (powers that need to happen during the night need to be sent via PM during the day. A recap is posted as day ends and the next day starts immediately). I am sure that we will be fine having a non-instant night however.
Night chats can be fun ^^
- We have a get out of jail free card player we call "Nobody" on the first day which is essentially a person that everyone votes to be lynched day one, however this stems from us not being overly active when playing and we generally don't have enough information to go off at all day 1. I believe that we could adjust to not having this "nobody" character, since I have warned everyone about the kinds of activity we need here.

We have a skip function for that. Some games allow the day to be skipped, some don't.

Also, what do you mean when you say No Com Hunting/Claiming? I'd say we may have a similar rule but not call it that.

Everyone is given new anonymous accounts. And you are not allowed to publicly hunt / claim the person behind the anonymous account.

Green <3

[Shazam08]

Guy from the other community here! o/

My vote's on the prequels. Darth Binks shall reign.

[Frog]

Guy from the other community here! o/

My vote's on the prequels. Darth Binks shall reign.

Bahahaha.

I want it to include the whole star war universe.

So far we're a little stuck on blanket names for neut factions or to name each role individually.

E.g.

Neutral Killing - Jabba The Hut

Or

Mass Murderer - Jabba The Hut

FireBringer is working on the story.

We're using this nifty site to make rolecards: https://mtgcardsmith.com/details.php

[DarknessB]

Bahahaha.

I want it to include the whole star war universe.

So far we're a little stuck on blanket names for neut factions or to name each role individually.

E.g.

Neutral Killing - Jabba The Hut

Or

Mass Murderer - Jabba The Hut

FireBringer is working on the story.

We're using this nifty site to make rolecards: https://mtgcardsmith.com/details.php

Even the newer lore?

[Stealthbomber16]

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[Elixir]

Interested from a design/balance perspective (yeah thats what I do)

How is Toxicologist not a strictly worse serial killer seeing as they are both immune to night kills, both not immune to investigation and the toxicologist gives the target one more day to talk and participate in the vote to the full knowledge that they're going to die -- and additionally assuming that the town isnt getting anywhere that day can actually buffer a mislynch by getting themselves lynched

[Shazam08]

I want it to include the whole star war universe.

something something don't get cocky

So far we're a little stuck on blanket names for neut factions or to name each role individually.

There are definitely enough characters in the universe to name each role individually, but... Dunno. Some would be harder than others. You'd end up with roles like "Toxicologist - Trash compactor monster."

Since there's only one NB/NE/NK (each) in the game, you can probably get away with blanket names for each faction.

[Shazam08]

Oh, and may I request a name change for some NE roles (namely Armorsmith, Blacksmith, and Architect)? I know they all function the same as their town counterparts, but in discussion it's easier/clearer to say "He's a Shoddy Armorsmith!" than "He's an NE Armorsmith!". Just personal preference.