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    S-FM Ladder

    Season 5 has now ended! It lasted 15 games, starting with S-FM 227 and finishing with S-FM 241.

    You are automatically enrolled if you host or participate in a game. Opting out is allowed via PM.

    Just because a game is listed here does not mean it is necessarily finished. PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS ONGOING GAMES OUTSIDE THE GAME THREAD.



    Season 5 Games:

    1. S-FM 227 - Lady Gaga
    2. S-FM 228 - "O"
    3. S-FM 229 - The Alchemist of Nightmares
    4. S-FM 230 - Pulp Fiction
    5. S-FM 231 - Black Flag Nightless 3.0
    6. S-FM 232 - Stay Classy
    7. S-FM 233 - 8 - 2 - 2
    8. S-FM 234 - Lottery
    9. S-FM 235 - Haunted Town
    10. S-FM 236 - Masquerade Madness II
    11. S-FM 237 - Super Basic
    12. S-FM 238 - Undercover
    13. S-FM 239 - Fableblood III
    14. S-FM 240 - Coldest War
    15. S-FM 241 - Your Everyday Average Game

    Points

    +2 for Shared Victory
    +3 for Solo Victory
    +1 for Loss
    +2 for Hosting (Applicable twice per season)
    -1 for Modkill or Force Replaced

    Tiebreak priority:
    Most Solo Victories > Most Victories > Most Games Host (max 2) > Most Games Played > Most Scum Victories.

    If there is still a tie, then all players tied will receive the prize.

    Having negative points means you show up as 0 on the ladder.


    Champions

    Season 1 - Orpz
    Season 2 - Firebringer
    Season 3 - Toadette
    Season 4 - Unknown1234
    Season 5 - Hybrid


    Season Rewards

    First Place: Inducted into Champions for life. Given a permanent S-FM Champions award. Given a temporary 1st place award for the season. +100 Rep.
    Second Place: Given a temporary 2nd place award for the season. +50 Rep.
    Third Place: Given a temporary 3rd place award for the season. +25 Rep.

    Everyone who placed 1st to 3rd in any season will also earn an FM Ladder Climber award.



    Ladder [NAME POINTS]



    Last edited by Iced_Monopoly; February 18th, 2018 at 04:33 AM.
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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    I'm seeing the corrupt mafia crossed out. I'm guessing that means it's not going to count towards the ladder?

    Spoiler : Game History :
    [X] S-FM Reverse Mafia - Mason Leader [L]
    [X] FM XXI - Drug Dealer [L]
    [X] S-FM "Do you even lift?"- Tardy Tim [L]
    [X] S-FM Deaths Deadly Damned Detroit - Doctor [W]
    [X] S-FM Double Agents - Mafioso [W]
    [X] S-FM Corrupt - Doctor [-]

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by Vantas View Post
    I'm seeing the corrupt mafia crossed out. I'm guessing that means it's not going to count towards the ladder?
    It's not going to count.

    Compounded host errors lowered the competitive viability of the game. Such errors include failing to reveal the list of Cultist members to the Cult despite it being clear in the setup that they know their allies, revealing my role and giving incorrect feedback to a player, failing to reset votes until mid-day which caused many people to have to recast their votes or straight up miss the lynch, failing to start day and night time within a reasonable window from claimed time.

    In short, it was no more competitive than a Circlejerk FM.
    Last edited by FM Ladder; June 10th, 2014 at 08:07 PM.
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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    There seemed to be no more discussion on them so I'll just add the MVP points based on votes now.

    EDIT:
    Interesting things already in Season 2.
    In the past season, I don't believe we've had games where the MVP was a player who did not win, yet the first two games breaks this trend.

    Also Terminator's Return featured the first Solo Win.

    EDIT2: While Stealthbomber16 had more votes in the vote count for MVP of S-FM 150, the host voted for MikeCall, which brought it to a 2-2 tie. I gave the host's decision the tiebreaking weight.
    Last edited by Orpz; August 25th, 2015 at 12:14 AM.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Announcement:

    It is known that hosts are allowed to disallow certain players from signing up for their games. However, for fairness, I will not be including games with a blacklist in the ladder.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Season 2 has ended. Points from Mystery Box will be tallied in and an official post will be made on Monday, November 2nd. Maybe Sunday, November 1st if I get home sooner than expected.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Points have been added in for Mystery Box. Please alert me if I've made any mistakes. In about 12 hours, the official ladder end post will be up.

    EDIT: Delayed for another 12 hours. There are some things I need to resolve regarding the ladder.
    Last edited by Orpz; November 3rd, 2015 at 08:21 AM.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Season 3 has officially begun! S-FM Mushroom Kingdom Madness will start us off.

    Noticable changes:

    -15 games length instead of 12. This change makes competitive players more active, but also gives breathing room for when players can not commit to a game.
    -Games will be more stagnated, even if there is enough player activity. This change makes it so competitive players won't be forced to play something insane like 4 games at once.
    -MVP's no longer gain additional points, as the system proved to be easily broken by conspiracy. MVP discussion is still very heavily encouraged.
    -Win streak points are easier to attain. There is no cap to earning points from win streaks now. Play your best every game!
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    Why not have ladder & non-ladder games
    I try to balance every game I review, so that qualifies it for ladder automatically, but hosts can always opt out if they like
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessB View Post
    There should be a point bonus given for consecutive losses too -- not that I would need that or anything...
    I'd like to see some sort of awards instead of a simple points race:
    Sweet Dreams - Most times lynched on day 1.
    Highlander - Most games alive at the end.
    Natural Born Scum - Most times lynched as Town.
    Mayor - Most wins as Town.
    Godfather - Most wins as Mafia.
    Fucking spammer - Most posts/day.
    Filthy Lurker - Least post/day without being replaced.

    Stuff like that.

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    I was thinking of an SFM achievement program, actually. The rewards would be badges, starting from 5 achievements, then the badge upgrades at 10, and finalizes at "All". Maybe even a new username color at 10 achievements.

    Im still designing the achievements so that they positively impact gameplay and behavior. For example, I cant do anything like "Get a kill as a Bus Driver" since we'll have hosts running crazy BD games and people overall being insane. I also cant do something like "Be the hammer voter twice in a game" since thats gonna make people try to snipe hammer instead of lynching.

    I just need FRED to check his SKYPE 😡
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Will there be a season at some point that deducts points for losses so that the victor is more judged via skill and not activity?

    -edit

    Not saying that is the case here at all. I just figure the point system creates a strong inclination for players to sign for as many games as possible with low effort.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Will there be a season at some point that deducts points for losses so that the victor is more judged via skill and not activity?

    -edit

    Not saying that is the case here at all. I just figure the point system creates a strong inclination for players to sign for as many games as possible with low effort.
    It's been discussed a bunch in staff chat today, which if you would rejoin, you could partake in. Some options could be a fraction of a point deducted for a loss or some multiplier applied to points based on win percentage at the end of a season, etc. Obviously, this is for Orpz and MattZed to decide ultimately though. I would agree though that there is an incentive to sign for as many games as you can in terms of the current scoring which is in some ways desirable (more signs!) but in other ways not (not an incentive to play well necessarily).
    Last edited by DarknessB; April 5th, 2016 at 08:54 PM.

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessB View Post
    LOL, you lost once this season (7 shared wins, 1 solo win, 1 loss) -- I think your victory was obviously well earned.
    I won't bring up again how angry that loss made me - I don't want to get banned for pointing out again why that happened
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    What are the start and end dates for this season?
    The ladder will start at S-FM 200 and end after 15 games. Thus, if all goes well, S-FM 214 will be the last game for the season.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

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    Season 5 will start soon. More to follow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    The ladder has officially started!! The first game's signup can be found here:

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...674#post677674
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: S-FM Ladder

    This seasons Ladder is currently up to date.

    If anyone has any questions or issues with the stats, feel free to PM Myself, @RLVG , & @deathworlds .

    Please do not post your issues in this thread!

    Thank you
    Last edited by Mesk514; August 23rd, 2017 at 10:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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