witch + jailor +veteran

[kyle1234513]

night 3. i control player 6 onto the veteran. 6 is a jailor. next day the MM dies to the veteran who did alert that night.
I watched the replay. neither myself or 6 were roleblocked that night. and 6 was not healed.

day 3 there was a lynch, so 6 could not have jailed.

so why didn't jailor die? if he is unable to perform a night action, and a witch controls him, shouldn't he go and visit the target I choose?

witch hax.SC2Replay

[Dark.Revenant]

I'm not 100% sure but I think the intention was that a Jailer cannot possibly leave the jail while he's with the guy he's jailing.

[kyle1234513]

I'm not 100% sure but I think the intention was that a Jailer cannot possibly leave the jail while he's with the guy he's jailing.

my bad, in the OP it says day 2, I meant day 3.

it was the same day/night. the night I control the jailor, he did not jail anyone, because he couldn't because there was a lynching that day.

[fred]

well.. can you control a citizen onto a guy? I think it makes sense. Jailor performs no moving actions and shouldn't be forced to visit.

[ika]

as far as my knowlage goes, witch can focre target that normaly cant move to move

[kyle1234513]

well.. can you control a citizen onto a guy? I think it makes sense. Jailor performs no moving actions and shouldn't be forced to visit.

yes, ive forced citizens/ survivors/ mayors/ marshalls onto veterans before, they all die. should the veteran alert.

[fred]

Then jailor (not visiting) should head to the vet the same with no captive :P

[kyle1234513]

Then jailor (not visiting) should head to the vet the same with no captive :P

which did not occur in the above replay. >.<

and had he jailed someone, (he didn't, because he couldn't have) he would've executed his captive. and there was no execution the next day either.

[Raptorblaze]

yes, ive forced citizens/ survivors/ mayors/ marshalls onto veterans before, they all die. should the veteran alert.

I think the issue is that none of those have targeted abilities. Jailors have a targeting ability that only works during the day, so it just doesn't function. Just a thought tho.

[cxx]

As far as I know, a jailor only moves when he executes.
Maybe he cannot be "physically" moved because the witch-jailor interaction at night is somehow different and might replace the standard one.

[madbird20]

I believe the reason that the Jailer did not die was because Jailer acts first in the OoO, and Witch acts 4th, so because he did not use his action, he wasn't manipulated. If he had jailed someone, then the Witch could control his execution, because Witch acts 4th in the OoO, and kills act 6th. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

[cxx]

Well, the jailor's 'moving' operation is his execution. That happens in line with most of the other kills, and after the witch directed her target.