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    Re: Night 3

    That's a very interesting decision, sir.
    For now I will assume you are a Jailor and not a Devourer (And that the Hidden Any is NOT a Witch/Neutral Killer like these silly folks this it is. I'm pretty sure our Hidden Neutral is simply a Witch... Well, I hope.)
    On the good side of things, both situations (If I am released or if I am executed) are a win situation for the town.
    My death would clear out a lot of confusion and potentially expose the scums (One of them being one of those three; Cohen, Cafarelli or Morgan.)

    I am nothing more than a simple Delta.

    I was NOT Blackmailed on Night 1. Everyone has been wrong about this in the day chat.
    This obviously means that my Roleblock feedback was real, and that I wasn't blackmailed on Day 1.
    I was on Night 2, though.
    As many said, a good player would wait on the second day to do his Blackmail task so that the Blackmailer could not blackmail someone again.
    Problem is; they threatened me. They may not set conditions to their blackmail, but they can very well decide to do this (Don't worry, I did ask the FMGM if I could quote it before posting it here.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Night 2 Feedback
    You have been blackmailed. Here is a note listing the blackmailer's demands: All of your posts must only contain lines spoken by characters in the play Cleansed by Sarah Kane (the full text of which may be found here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/24140567/Sarah-Kane-Cleansed), which will be hereby be referred to in this note as "the play". Your posts may not contain any words that are not in the script of the play. You must post the lines exactly as they appear in the play: you may not edit them in any way (this includes changing the order of the words, changing the words themselves, and adding ellipses in the middle of a quote to bridge two separate lines). Your posts must contain lines from the play and nothing else. This extends to everything that is visible to others when you post, including (but not limited to) your avatar and signature. You may not use your posts, your avatar, your signature, or anything else that is visible to other players to claim or in any way hint that you are blackmailed or that your speech patterns are not of your own free will. You may not put quotes around the text, or change the punctuation of it in any way. You must post it as if it is coming from you directly. If you don't complete this task on Day 2, we will kill you at night.
    I did think that the fact that they would use a kill on a Delta was not so bad, and that they may have not gone through with it. Problem is, I was the one that got roleblocked (Which I now assume was from a Consort and not an Escort. Mafia probably planned this through.)
    I decided it would NOT be a good idea to wait for the second day. At the time, I did not know about Morgan. I simply started spamming lines from the play, in hopes of someone finding what this was about. (I apologize for somewhat shitting up the day with that. I thought it was necessary for people to find out what this gibberish was so that they could understand and see my limitations. I was somewhat hoping for someone to go through the play and see what lines I could use (As I was obviously limited to those.) As soon as Parker found out about the play, the spam stopped.
    You probably thought this through a lot before deciding to jail me. If you did, you probably went through my posts and looked for possible hints and others.
    I, for one, do not believe there are two Blackmailers. Considering how extremely strong the role is, I seriously doubt it. Two Drug Dealers might be possible though.
    If you noticed; I started regularly saying these lines;

    He was an addict.
    He died of an overdose.

    I was actually ready to reveal my Blackmail to the town. In my mind, there was a fair chance that I was simply drugged to believe I was. I was ready to take the risk if town somewhat gave me a hint, a sign... anything.
    As a Delta, even if I died, the information it would've given to the town in the day would've been very beneficial. It would also have confirmed Morgan as blackmailed.

    I was extremely limited, but with these lines (Post #758 onwards)

    Do you take it up the arse?
    No.

    Do it to me.
    Yes.

    Then love me. Fucking love me.
    Yes.

    I was trying to tell Parker (And the others) that I was roleblocked for real.
    But of course, people couldn't pick up on such a dense message. I expected people to question it ( I could have answered that, since it was not related to the blackmail.)

    You may also have noticed these lines;

    Doctor. Please. Doctor.

    Doctor.
    Will you help me?

    You'll be moved.

    I was really hoping to pass the message that I needed to be, in some way, moved or healed (I honestly believe the Mafia is going to try to hit me tonight, IF THEY DON'T BLACKMAIL ME AGAIN, which is even more likely.)
    I'm not sure if this is the reason you decided to jail me. If you caught up on that, kudos to you.

    There is one thing though.
    I reviewed all my posts and double checked them with the play to make sure I made no mistake. But the host cannot confirm to me that my task has been finished. I guess we may learn about it tomorrow if someone else is blackmailed (Though I doubt the Mafia would simply blackmail someone else and tell them to use such language that would obviously tell everyone they are blackmailed)
    If I made a mistake, my task is considered not completed, and I think that no matter if you execute me or not tonight, I will suicide. I do believe I did everything right though.
    Just do keep in mind that I might be blackmailed again (If they didn't try to hit me/If I didn't suicide.)

    Sorry for the big wall of text. It's past 1 AM over here so I'll need to head to bed, but tomorrow we can discuss some and I can tell you about who I think is scum. A few people struck me as extremely suspicious after today's events.

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    Re: Night 3

    Hmm very interesting blackmail. It showed us that the mafia isnt dumb and it wont be easy for us.
    First of all, I am a Jailor not a Devourer. The reason I jailed you is that it seemed like you are trying to tell us something but you couldnt. So I jailed you to get some answers out of you.
    The facts that you wanted to give some informations to the town, and the facts that you are wiling to discuss about who do you think is scums indicate that you are town.

    I'll ask the FMGM to comfirm that you can post your feedback here to be certain.

    You claimed roleblocked night 1 and you were blackmailed night 0 but you didnt do your blackmail until day 2 Is this correct?

    In your opinion, who do you think is scum?

    I might have more questions later on but I expect you to post by the time I come back.

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    Re: Night 3

    I just woke up and am about to head to work. I'll answer this as soon as I can.

    You are correct about the Night 1 roleblock.
    If you reread this part:
    ''I decided it would NOT be a good idea to wait for the second day. At the time, I did not know about Morgan. I simply started spamming lines from the play, in hopes of someone finding what this was about. (I apologize for somewhat shitting up the day with that. I thought it was necessary for people to find out what this gibberish was so that they could understand and see my limitations. I was somewhat hoping for someone to go through the play and see what lines I could use (As I was obviously limited to those.) As soon as Parker found out about the play, the spam stopped. ''
    I was blackmailed on Night 2.

    I'll be back in ~2-3 hours, I'll try to answer this and give you my scum focus.

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    Re: Night 3

    Please note; this is not a ''scum'' list. These are observations, about things that definitely ticked me off.

    FM Parker
    This was his first post about the blackmail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Post #47
    I ask that question because it would explain why there were three bus claims and a poisioned claim. Here, Colmyer is acting as if he's blackmailed. That's way too much attention for scum to want to draw to themselves.
    Two posts later:

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #130
    Ok, I added him to my ignore list. That might help with some of the spam.

    Good night.
    This struck me as extremely odd. Even though I was really spammy at the time, you have absolutely no reason to put someone on your ignore list. He should have known that even when blackmailed, I would have tried to relay information to the town. I'm still pondering as to why he would do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #327
    @Colymer = I know you're hellbent on gibberish. However, you can use it to help town provided it follows within your likely blackmail rules.

    Claim your category in the investigative pairings by using that number of words in your next post. The number of pairings +1 tells me you refuse. Anything else says you cannot communicate.

    For your next post, if you are trying to suggest who you think is scummy by quoting a work of literature, include only one word. If this was not your intention, use two words. Three means you refuse. Anything else means you cannot communicate.
    This is where things go downhill. Despite how clear it is in the rolecard (And even having the GM telling him to cut it out), he still tried to get me to give him such information, which would've gotten me instantly killed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #358
    Colymer, did Sarah "Cleanse" you?
    Again, this would have gotten me killed. FMGM confirmed that to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #365
    Colmyer,

    1) If I am Cate, are you Ian? Will you speak with the solider and tell him we had a wonderful time as you smell my knickers? If so, I can make the lead Blasted if you want.

    2) Did you swallow a ring? At Tinker's direction?

    @The rest, I swear there is a point to this. I think I know who Colmyer is. If you want me to reveal the code he's using, I can. I'm trying to figure out whether it is the mafia's direction or his.
    Another attempt at getting to reveal the blackmail/that I was not talking of my own will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #367
    Well Colmyer could have been drugged to believe he was blackmailed, but that would leave too many drugs. So I'm discounting that theory.
    Why? Why assume that the others are not lying and that I was not the one to be drugged (Which is still very much possible by the way. Morgan might be the one that was really blackmailed. Might.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #372
    If I get confirmation from Colmyer that it's ok to share how I figured out what he's quoting from, I will explain. If I explain, you will repeat my processes and possibly leave him exposed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Post #377
    "Don't Give it I can see that?"

    /// OR///

    Most likely incinerated...

    You gave them to someone else...
    More attempts to get me to reveal I wasn't posting of my own free will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #381
    Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using "Cleansed" by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.
    Finally reveals to the town what I am using for my spam. He should have done that way earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #513
    I quit posting because I was concerned he was blackmailed. Yet, I'm not certain. If Monroe's blackmailed, then Colmyer is not and I could have had a field day with him. One of the two is trolling beyond reason or the real DD feedback is blackmailed.

    One of Monroe/Colmyer/Cohen has to be lying about being blackmailed or drugged.
    This is false. I do believe Morgan is also ''blackmailed'' and that either one of us got the drug. Why did he not mention that this was possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #543
    Therefore, unless we have

    Godfather, Blackmailer, Blackmailer, Drug Dealer, and Consort... the premise where both Colmyer and Monroe are blackmailed is impossible. The drugs already went to Cohen or the outed investigator.
    Again, why is he SO certain that Cohen/the Outed Investigator got the drugs and not one of us? Does he know information we don't? He's not really making sense here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #577
    I only have two bussed today for my notes. Can you post who claimed bussed today Ackerman?

    Yes, I am suspecting two of the roleblockers from day one were blackmailed into claiming roleblocked. That is because we only have one claim today. I'm near certain that Colmyer was blackmailed into stating that he was blackmailed and the mafia blackmailed him again to prevent him from announcing roleblocked.

    I only had one of you two down as roleblocked.
    Wait, so he went from thinking that one of us are liars to being near certain that I was blackmailed TWICE in a row?
    This is also scummy. I'm mad I couldn't point out all these in the day chat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #621
    Ok, here's what I think happened.

    Night 0

    Godfather kills.
    Kidnapper busses Anonymous with Morgan.
    Blackmailer blackmails Morgan to keep quiet.
    Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer to claim roleblocked (hence the extra roleblocked between day 1 and day 2)
    Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.
    Consigliere gathers information.

    -------

    Night 1

    GF kills.
    Kidnapper busses Morgan or Colmyer.
    Blackmailer blackmails Morgan or Colmyer again.
    DD handles the other with the same message (as required by the rule cards).
    Blackmailer blackmails Monroe to claim Mayor. After all, he cannot admit blackmailed.
    Consigliere investigates.

    ----

    If we lynch the wrong target, mafia roles don't get confirmed.
    This list is wrong on so many levels. Why did he go from saying he was certain one of us was lying and that he had huge doubt on Morgan to this? He shifts his story left and right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #662
    I strongly believe Cohen is innocent. The groundwork for his assumptions are very well made.

    First, he announces poisoned. He later asks not to be healed to confirm poisoner in the game or not. His death would have confirmed a role and something most players would be willing to do in mafia.

    He lacks a heal message. Therefore, he was drugged twice, not healed or lying.

    I admit, my scenario eliminates drugged twice.

    Why is it illogical to assume that a player who requested to be healed was not healed?
    More inconsistencies. Now he also believe Cohen to be innocent. Only a few pages before that, he was certain that at least one of us (Morgan, Cohen and I) was scum and lying.

    Anyway, my point is, he is completely inconsistent. I'm not sure at this point if he's a scum trying to mislead the town, or just a townie who's just really, really confused and trying a bit too hard.
    I'd say keep an eye on him for me please. I wouldn't ''focus'' him with a pressure lynch, but watch out for his post patterns.

    I have some more things to say about others, but I'm quite busy with work, as always.
    I'll do another post ASAP.

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    Re: Night 3

    Hmm FM Parker does sound extremely scummy with those infos. We should be suspicous of him and proceed with caution.

    What do you think of FM Morgan?
    What is your perspective on the entire town on Day 2 and their lynch train on FM Monroe?
    Who else do you find scummy?

    And its alright that you're busy, its understandable and most of us have a life outside of FM, we got 31 hours left to discuss things before day 3.

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    Re: Night 3

    FM Morgan:

    He joined with post #199 on Day 1, which was quite useful, as he gave his thoughts on the current situation
    Quote Originally Posted by Post #199
    Hello brothers. I have returned...

    I don't like Gallo. I would say why, but that would make my COM obvious, and I think I have certain enemies who would love to see me out early game due to personal "feelings".

    The three roleblock situation makes me almost certain we have an Escort, Consort, AND a DD. I am also almost positive we have a Consig, as that is a very important role for the Mafia to have and I doubt the host would leave them without one.

    As for the Random Any, I feel it is an Evil Neutral. I almost 90% certain it is not a Savage, and I doubt there are 7 Mafia. It might be an Epsilon, or a Town, yet I stand by my opinion that it's an Evil Neutral.

    Also, I believe we have three Alphas. The Two original, and one from the extra list. Giving us a Mayor, Enforcer, and Beater/bludggoner -fuck his name-. Also I believe off the extra list we have 4 Deltas from that.

    Any opinions? The quicker we find out the role-list the better.
    You can go onward to see his posts from there.

    I have a STRONG town read on him.
    Although I'm a bit worried about his blackmailed status, I do believe that one of us was drugged while the other was really blackmailed.
    Both him and I were strong voices during Day 1, and Mafia obviously wanted to silence us.

    If this is true, Unless Mafia has a double blackmailer or DD, Cohen or Cafarelli is scum.
    We'll get more info on this tomorrow.

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    Re: Night 3

    Someone who I do believe to be scum:
    FM Bekowsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #20, Day 1
    FM Ryan (Godfather)
    FM Bekowsky (Consigliere)
    FM Galletta (Drug Dealer)
    FM Fontaine(Disguiser)
    FM Bishop (Graverobber)
    FM Lichtmann (Framer)


    GG, lol
    Starts the game with a troll ''gamethrow'' post including himself as Mafia. Absolutely no valid reason to do that even if it was the first day.
    Disappears and comes back with this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #229, Day 1
    I've just got back online. Just in case people didn't find the fact the game is still going and people aren't swarming me with hate-mail enough of an indicator, my "Gamethrowing Mafia" ploy is of course... well, a ploy. Disappointed by lack of activity 17 hours in, but lets see if anything useful came up.
    Again, absolutely no valid reason to do this. Why would he do this ''ploy'' if the only thing it would do is put more attention on him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #371, Day 1
    Originally Posted by FM McKelty
    eh, that could work. But if there's a lookout and doctor, they could both visit Cohen so lookout knows the doctor's identity.
    It might not be the best idea, but I don't see anything TERRIBLY wrong with the suggestion, and certainly not enough to warrant a lynch on that alone.


    Reserving judgement for the moment, even though I might vote later.
    Encouraging a PR to go on Cohen. As I always thought, the poison on Cohen was either a lie from Cohen or a drug, which the Mafia probably would've used along with their more than likely Interceptor.
    Everyone who was encouraging a PR to go on Cohen is now scummy in my eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #379, Day 1
    -vote FM Dunn
    If you read the post, his vote is shoddy if anything. Filler pressure vote on someone with 3 posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #562, Day 1
    I'll be on to post read an post in ~2 hours.
    Says he'll be back before the end of the day and never comes back. Scummy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #249, Day 2
    Je etait role-blocked. Don't have time to post more:\
    First post of the day. Probably roleblocked by an escort for his scuminess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Post #723-729, Day 2
    I'm just reading through the spam which is Colymer's posts, and something is striking me as odd. While it's possible Colmyer is BMed into making X number of posts, all of the posts on the first few pages are meaningless spam. Unless the BMer found a loop-hole which is forcing his posts to be purely useless (I am also noticing how all posts made by Colymer are 1 line), I would still be expecting something more useful, or at very least a typical "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM" for each and everyone of his posts. Instead, all of his posts are varied, yet consistently useless.

    Also, BMer is borderline broken to the point where I have to severely question the judgement/intelligence of the hosts if it was actually put into the game, and I am simply not seeing the benefit of wasting night actions on useless shit like making someone spam.


    @Colymer: Do you want to be lynched? Simple yes or no question.

    Even if it was a useless spam BM, why the hell are posts like these being made?

    Really team? Colymer is being written off as BMed with very little discussion? I want someone to write me a draft of what the BM message would be that would cause a town member who wants to act as pro-town and productively as possible while doing the following:

    A) Makes an incredibly number of posts, all of which are 1-liners
    B) Makes all of these posts almost completely useless
    C) Insults other members in some of these posts (Violation of rules. Wouldn't be allowed in a BM message)


    Even things such as "Act as scummy as possible" are subjective. Maybe your take on acting scummy is typing "SPAM SPAM" a few times then calling it quits.



    While I'm not sure I'm up for it right now, I am willing to dig through D1 and analyse Colymer's posts.


    -vote FM Colymer



    It is true, I am not finished reading through the thread, in which case I may unvote if these points have already been discussed. However, I really think we should touch more on the point of the Colymer spam.

    ^To clarify again


    Severe insulting of other members is a rule violation. I doubt even Rocshi would allow the BMer to force Colymer to break a forum rule. A town BMed target may follow the rules of the BM, but he is still trying to fight against the BM and find loop-holes, and most certainly NOT trying to assist the objective of the BM. Soooooo... explain to me why posts like these are being made...

    ^Also, still going back to the same post. The comment was obviously directed towards someone, ruling out the Colymer can't communicate with other people.

    -vote FM Colmyer


    Last one failed.
    Baseless accusations.
    His whole focus is the fact that I insulted someone (Really. These were actually lines from the play. If you've taken a look at it, the play is actually a somewhat uh. Sexual play.) I was only quoting lanes from the play, with the ''Taking up the arse'' line hinting to the roleblock, which nobody picked up on.
    He also said he would dig through my Day 1 post (Which he never did, probably because he saw I was pro-town all the way.)
    He also didn't even bother finishing reading the thread before posting this. So dumb.

    My two cents?
    Either a Mafia trying to start a mislynch, or an Executioner/Jester.

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    Re: Night 3

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Lyn View Post
    Also, We should establish a code.
    If I do survive the night, we should establish one so that I can communicate with you.
    Alright. Ill try to think of some code for us to communicate in the morning unless you can come up with one, and jailing will grant you night immunity unless I decide to execute you or if I was witched

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    Re: Night 3

    I covered this in my first post.

    ''If you noticed; I started regularly saying these lines;

    He was an addict.
    He died of an overdose.

    I was actually ready to reveal my Blackmail to the town. In my mind, there was a fair chance that I was simply drugged to believe I was. I was ready to take the risk if town somewhat gave me a hint, a sign... anything.
    As a Delta, even if I died, the information it would've given to the town in the day would've been very beneficial. It would also have confirmed Morgan as blackmailed.''

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    Re: Night 3

    For your first post, please post your feedback.
    Tinker. Blackmailed
    I'm cooking. Roleblocked
    I want out. Bussed
    No. Witched
    Is that for me? Attacked and healed.
    I don't use. Poisoned
    More. Architect chat
    It's not enough. Jailed by somebody else/devoured
    I'm a dealer not a doctor. Converted
    Are you my friend? Received a gun
    I don't think so. Received a vest.
    Then what difference will it make? Journalist
    It won't end here. Doused

    If you have more feedbacks, then use the above for your second post for your second feedback and third post for third feedback etc. until you type in I know my limits. Please.
    And that will tell me you're done with the feedback list.

    Eg:
    Post 1: Tinker
    Post 2: I want out.
    Post 3: No.
    Post 4: I know my limits. Please.

    Then I will know you were blackmailed, bussed, and witched.

    Do this every day until your death.

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    Re: Night 3

    How about this;
    First letter in my first post of the day:
    A. Blackmailed
    B. Roleblocked
    C. Bussed
    D. Witched
    E. Attacked and healed.
    F. Poisoned
    G. Architect chat
    H. Jailed by somebody else/devoured
    I. Converted
    J. Received a gun
    K. Received a vest.
    L. Journalist
    M. Doused

    This feedback will be give on the first line, I will skip a line after I am done giving you my feedback; exemple;

    Gosh, man...

    That night was very (etc etc.)

    I'd be telling you that I got in an Architect chat and that I got doused.

    What do you think?

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    Re: Night 3

    We might also want to establish some kind of phrase or just a keyword that you'll want to use.

    Some phrase that you'd say in day chat if you ever wanted to reveal yourself to me or had to prove your innocence but without revealing your role.

    How about:

    This has been a rather... ''interesting'' day.

    If you ever need to reveal yourself to me; and

    This has been a rather... ''interesting'' day so far.

    If you ever need to reveal yourself to me while also giving me permission to confirm you as Jailor.

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    Re: Night 3

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Theodor Eicke View Post
    Ah right. Didnt really think through. I forgot* that you wouldnt be blackmailed for the rest of the game. But yeah your ideas are a lot better than mine. Mine might work if you were blackmailed for the entire game.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Lyn View Post
    How about this;
    First letter in my first post of the day:
    A. Blackmailed
    B. Roleblocked
    C. Bussed
    D. Witched
    E. Attacked and healed.
    F. Poisoned
    G. Architect chat
    H. Jailed by somebody else/devoured
    I. Converted
    J. Received a gun
    K. Received a vest.
    L. Journalist
    M. Doused
    N. No feedback

    This feedback will be give on the first line, I will skip a line after I am done giving you my feedback; exemple;

    Gosh, man...

    That night was very (etc etc.)

    I'd be telling you that I got in an Architect chat and that I got doused.

    What do you think?
    I like this idea and I added N. No feedback.

    If I ever want to reveal Im the jailor to you, I would post "Hmm... This... Is... Interesting..."

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    Re: Night 3

    I do think I gave you everything I had as a Delta, with the limited information I had. There is obviously no way to prove myself right now.
    As I said, executing me/me dying tonight for whatever reason is not that big of a loss, and It'll give some focus on the other ''blackmailed'' people. However, me living would be beneficial for you, as you have someone that can at anytime confirm you as a townie. I'm sure that one way or another I'll be able to prove myself to you, even if I am nothing more than a Delta. I will give you all my feedbacks through our code.

    I can only ask you to trust me for now.

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