No-Abstain Option

[MrMostache]

I have heard from somewhere that in Epic Mafia/Forum Mafia, there is a rule that disallow abstaining in trials, where if you abstain you get some sort of mod-kill (Lightning strike). I would really love to use this setup in inhouses. My reasons:

1. This makes evil roles votes smartly, rather than just abstaining and giving themselves away.
2. This forces neutrals to vote. Basically preventing them from blocking lynches and forcing them to choose their sides.
3. Forces indecisive towns to vote, many towns tend not to vote in case of an Executioner/Jester suspect, and more importantly not voting on a potential town which ends up being guiltied by mafia and neutrals.

Remember that this is only an option, and only allowed if the host decide to do so.

[powerofdeath]

There should be a button [ABSTAIN] it forces people to click on it if they really want to abstain instead of people not doing anything or being afk
Not voting can have some kind of penalties

[powerofdeath]

There should be a button [ABSTAIN] it forces people to click on it if they really want to abstain instead of people not doing anything or being afk
Not voting can have some kind of penalties

This way, when people actually abstain, players can question them, like why did they abstain on obvious mafia?

[kyle1234513]

and what happens if someone afks for a day, or people don't know that they "have to vote" if they don't see the can not abstain option is enabled.

[Nazzhoul]

Why not change Marshall so he forces everyone to vote instead of multiple lynches in a day?

[MrMostache]

and what happens if someone afks for a day, or people don't know that they "have to vote" if they don't see the can not abstain option is enabled.

It's supposed to be an inhouse option, host will notify the players. And it's intended to punish afkers.

[powerofdeath]

What if host want to troll and not notify the players

[TheDarkestLight]

It's supposed to be an inhouse option, host will notify the players. And it's intended to punish afkers.

AFKing can sometimes be a legit strat. A few months ago I won a solo witch win by going afk.

[ika]

AFKing can sometimes be a legit strat. A few months ago I won a solo witch win by going afk.

AFK JESTER FTW

[ASTRON]

I have heard from somewhere that in Epic Mafia/Forum Mafia, there is a rule that disallow abstaining in trials, where if you abstain you get some sort of mod-kill (Lightning strike). I would really love to use this setup in inhouses. My reasons:

You mean vegetable if no action?(vote), in epic mafia there is vote none which mean abstain. TBH i think there shouldn't be abstain or learn ppl to lynch abstainers. Town mostly let mafia lynch town cose they abstain or random lynch.

[Deantwo]

You mean vegetable if no action?(vote), in epic mafia there is vote none which mean abstain. TBH i think there shouldn't be abstain or learn ppl to lynch abstainers. Town mostly let mafia lynch town cose they abstain or random lynch.

think you are confusing Lynch votes and Trial votes

lasted i checked EpicMafia doesn't have trials at all

[ASTRON]

think you are confusing Lynch votes and Trial votes

lasted i checked EpicMafia doesn't have trials at all

Epic mafia don't have trials.
Epic mafia players in statistic use brain more often and their abstain lynch only if they are sure in SC2 Mafia PPL mostly abstain cose they don't rly want to think about guilty/innocent and i think trial shouldn't end before all vote(And maybe suicide players if they don't vote 5 sec after trial time end). Seems MrMostache have same opinion.

[louiswill]

Abstain should always be allowed, I know many people want to pretend scums.

I rather have a new role that can manipulate abstainers for more abusing purpose :P

[creedkingsx]

I have heard from somewhere that in Epic Mafia/Forum Mafia, there is a rule that disallow abstaining in trials, where if you abstain you get some sort of mod-kill (Lightning strike). I would really love to use this setup in inhouses. My reasons:

1. This makes evil roles votes smartly, rather than just abstaining and giving themselves away.
2. This forces neutrals to vote. Basically preventing them from blocking lynches and forcing them to choose their sides.
3. Forces indecisive towns to vote, many towns tend not to vote in case of an Executioner/Jester suspect, and more importantly not voting on a potential town which ends up being guiltied by mafia and neutrals.

Remember that this is only an option, and only allowed if the host decide to do so.

That's Forum Mafia. Entirely different.

[Admiral]

Actually... why not put this as an option?

[creedkingsx]

*afk for 2 minutes*
*comeback dead*
dafuq

[Cryptonic]

*afk for 20 seconds*
*comeback dead*
dafuq

**

[Deantwo]

*afk for 2 minutes*
*comeback dead*
dafuq

this^

but yeah... maybe the punishment could be something like:
takes only 25% lynch votes to get you on the stand the next day
as in a NPC or something votes on your so that you have half the needed vote on you already when voting start

[lionsgatepride]

Ok, except this would not be possible, if you don't vote what happens? It would look a lot more suspicious if you vote inno or guilty (depending on the situation), by being afk for a second.

Abstaining is good for not looking suspicious, if a lot of people vote, vote with what you expect the majority to be.

[TheComedian]

Option to set Innocent as chosen by default?

[Damus_Graves]

Option to set Innocent as chosen by default?

No

[Phyr]

*afk for 2 minutes*
*comeback dead*
dafuq

Where is the problem with that?
After some time ppl won't go afk anymore.

[Brigade]

I kindof like Innocent by default .. or alternatively .. punish them somehow.

Like every time you abstain, you automatically get one lynch vote the following day?

[Sen]

I don't like this idea. Pretending to be AFK is a great strategy in some instances. Sometimes I even go as far as using "Save sucks AFK" as my name or similar things. Most people will buy it; over 80% of the time that I pretend being AFK and I'm town/neutral, I survive until the last days. When I'm mafia it usually ends with me winning without saying a single word during the game.

Auto innocent is just as bad, since taking a look at those who vote inno is a good way to get leads, no matter if the lynched one was town or scum.

Also, what that guy said about AFKing for 2 minutes. There's real life, you know. Sometimes I get a phone call and I only come back to set my night action, then get back to the phone and check the log the next night. Getting punished for having a life outside of a game is plain idiotic.

If you reall want to punish AFK players, there are better ways to do it, like checking if someone with night actions enabled who survived over N nights never used his night actions. Especially invest roles, since you can't punish a killing role for not random killing.

Or simply check if some player did nothing at all during the whole game and add a count to the save file. Then add it to kick list after he does so over N games. Don't know. The thing is that punishing for not voting is a terrible idea in my opinion.


Edit: And the killing blow: What about jesters? No abstain? So everyone risks dead or auto innocents the jester?
There.