S-FM Colonization

[42shadow42]

S-FM Colonization

Role list

Colonist
Colonist
Colonist
Colonist
Colonist
Colonist
Colonist
Chieftan
Indian
Witch

Possible Roles

Colonist: Your power is in the vote, you currently have no night action.

Chieftan: While the chieftan is alive he decideds who will kill whom. He may send himself.
Indian: Can be sent to kill at night, if the chieftan is dead he can choose his own target.

Witch: Choose a target to witch at night. You may then choose who that person targets. If a target can take multiple actions that player still chooses the action. You cannot force a player to act if he has not selected an action (including execution). You can cause self targets. Your target will know he was witched, but not who he targeted.

Voted: Sheriff, Doctor, Jailor, Gunsmith, Armorer, Lookout

Spoiler : Voted Roles :

Sheriff: Choose one person at night to reveal their alignment (Colonist, Indian,Witch).

Doctor: Choose one person at night to save, you will be notified if you save them.

Jailor: Choose one person during the day to jail, you may interrogate your target at night (implementation still subject to change), you may execute (limit 2) or release your target. You may not jail if someone was lynched during the day. Your target will be immune. The act of jailing while targeting occurs during the day is consider to be a standard action.

Gunsmith: Choose one person at night to give a gun. You may not select yourself. At night any player with a gun can select a target to kill instead of their standard action. If you happen to receive this role as an indian you may select fellow indians, but each player may receive a gun only once.

Armorer: Choose one person at night to give a vest. You may not select yourself. Players may choose to wear the vest at night. This action does not replace their standard action. If you happen to receive this role as an indian you may select fellow indians, but each player may receive a gun only once.

Lookout: Choose one person to watch at night, you will know who visits them. You may target yourself.

Winning Conditions

Colonist: Must eliminate the indians.

Indians: Must eliminate the colonists.

Witch: Survive to see the colonists eliminated.

Order of Operations

1. Jailor jails
2. Night chat opens
3. Apply Vests
4. Witch controls
5. Gunsmith/Armorer
6. Killing Actions
7. Doctor heals
8. Sheriff/Lookout
9. Night chat closes
10. Jailor exec/releases

Noteworthy feedback

-When attempting to kill you will know if your target was immune.
-When attempting to heal if your target is immune you will not know he was attacked.

Rules of Conduct

- Don't edit your posts
- Don't use outside communication
- Submit night actions in a Private Message to the host
- Submit role votes in a Private Message to the host
- Use the vote tag system for lynch votes

Special Mechanics

-At the start of the game colonists have no abilities.

-Every morning, the colonist leader (Host) may select one role from the role list and announce it, order will be pre-determined, but secret. Players may then vote on who receives the role. Players may not vote for themselves, however Indians may vote for each other.

-Players may receive more than one role through voting, they may only select one roles action to use at night.

-If role voting results in a tie, alignment will be used to break ties, in the order of Colonist, Witch, Indian. If a tie still exists players without powers will be selected. Any remaining ties will be broken by chance.

[Orpz]

EDIT: I did not see Colonists were Citizens and I miscounted the Towns.

[Sinclair]

I say if you're having 7 town and 3 scum at least make 2 or 3 town "Colonists" (basically Citizens.) Maybe think about adding another scum?

[42shadow42]

I say if you're having 7 town and 3 scum at least make 2 or 3 town "Colonists" (basically Citizens.) Maybe think about adding another scum?

They are citizens, maybe i need to clarify the special rules?

-Colonists initially have no selected roles.

-Every morning, the colonist leader (Host) may select one role from the role list, colonists may then vote on who receives the role. Players may not vote for themselves, however indians may vote for each other.

-Players may receive more than one role through voting, they may only select one roles action to use at night.

[Cryptonic]

Are players informed of what role you selected?
Is role voting mandatory?
Please make a rolecard for Colonist, indicating they are just a Citizen but can receive a role.

Can a Witch cause self-targets?
Can a Witch force a player to use an item they were given?

If an Indian gets the Armorer or Gunsmith role, can they give items to other Indians?


You wrote that you, the host, may select a role each morning. Is it possible that you won't select a role, or is a role 100% selected every morning?

Can any player receive Town roles, including Witch?

[42shadow42]

Are players informed of what role you selected?
Yes
Is role voting mandatory?
No, but it would be recommended.
Please make a rolecard for Colonist, indicating they are just a Citizen but can receive a role

Will do.

Can a Witch cause self-targets?

Yes

Can a Witch force a player to use an item they were given?

No, the witch can only modify the target of a player selected action.

If an Indian gets the Armorer or Gunsmith role, can they give items to other Indians?

Yes, but players may never receive the same item twice. Modified role card to reflect that.

You wrote that you, the host, may select a role each morning. Is it possible that you won't select a role, or is a role 100% selected every morning?

The plan was to select each role once, one role for the first 6 days, after that the colony will be established, and no roles will be selected.

Can any player receive Town roles, including Witch?

Yes, however ties will be broken by alignment, town takes precedence, witch next, mafia last.

Answer inline in RED

[Cryptonic]

Yes, however ties will be broken by alignment, town takes precedence, witch next, mafia last.

oh i like that ^_^
You should place that up in the special mechanics section, so your players can find it easily.

Will it be announced to the players who won the vote? :o

[42shadow42]

oh i like that ^_^
You should place that up in the special mechanics section, so your players can find it easily.

Will it be announced to the players who won the vote? :o

​HELL NO, only the player who wins the vote will be notified of his new role.

[Cryptonic]

Jailor has unlimited executions?

[42shadow42]

Jailor has unlimited executions?

Now were getting into things I hadn't consider, not just things I hadn't stated. I'll give him 2.

[Cryptonic]

Can Sheriff detect Witch?
Can a Witch force a Jailor to execute?
Can a Jailor use an item if it has someone jailed?
Can a Lookout target itself?
Are Jailor's target immune to attacks?
Are Doctors informed of successful healing?
Are attackers informed if their target is immune to attacks?

[42shadow42]

Can Sheriff detect Witch?
Yes, will make this more clear.
Can a Witch force a Jailor to execute?
No, will make this more clear.
Can a Jailor use an item if it has someone jailed?
Vest yes gun no, will make this more clear.
Can a Lookout target itself?
Hadn't thought about it but yes.
Are Jailor's target immune to attacks?
Yes, I have never know it any other way will make it clear.
Are Doctors informed of successful healing?
Yes, I have never known it any other way will make it more clear.
Are attackers informed if their target is immune to attacks?
Yes, I have never known it any other way will make it more clear.

Answers inline.

[Cryptonic]

Answers inline.

Thanks. I know some of the questions are dumb, but you don't want people complaining during your game because something wasn't specified in the setup.

[BorkBot]

There's a coroner in your OoO, but it's not in the game.

Will a lookout see a jailor visit his target if he doesn't execute?

Will players who are attacked and healed be informed?
Will players who survived because of a vest or jail be informed?

I find it confusing that you list the power roles that are assigned through the vote "Colonist roles," because they technically aren't assigned to any specific faction.

Could you reword that to "Power Roles" instead, and change the colour to yellow or teal or something other than green?

-Every morning, the colonist leader (Host) may select one role from the role list and announce it to the town, colonists may then vote on who receives the role. Players may not vote for themselves, however indians may vote for each other.

This also doesn't clearly distinguish between colonists (the role) and players. It's not exactly clear here if the witch is allowed to vote at all.

If the roles to choose are revealed later in the game, it will look like you're trying to decide the course of the game and helping factions through the order you choose. The host should always be impartial. Therefore, it might be a good idea to establish the order in which roles are to be elected before the game starts and listing it inside your special mechanics section.

Can power role votes be revised? (i.e. the last PM counts?) Or does the first vote stick?

[42shadow42]

There's a coroner in your OoO, but it's not in the game.

Oops, Coroner removed from OoO.

Will a lookout see a jailor visit his target if he doesn't execute?

Yes

Will players who are attacked and healed be informed?

Yes

Will players who survived because of a vest or jail be informed?

Yes

I find it confusing that you list the power roles that are assigned through the vote "Colonist roles," because they technically aren't assigned to any specific faction.

Could you reword that to "Power Roles" instead, and change the colour to yellow or teal or something other than green?

Yes


This also doesn't clearly distinguish between colonists (the role) and players. It's not exactly clear here if the witch is allowed to vote at all.

Reworded to all players.

If the roles to choose are revealed later in the game, it will look like you're trying to decide the course of the game and helping factions through the order you choose. The host should always be impartial. Therefore, it might be a good idea to establish the order in which roles are to be elected before the game starts and listing it inside your special mechanics section.

Will not do, I intended the order to be secret, however I understand and would be willing to provide the ordering beforehand to a non-player, but responsible party to eliminate all accusations of bias.

Can power role votes be revised? (i.e. the last PM counts?) Or does the first vote stick?

Currently last vote, however I reserve the right to modify this in game if I get too many changes.

Answers inline.

[42shadow42]

As for the jailor to avoid the need of anonymous accounts, and to prevent spam. The implementation will be the jailor pm's with his jail target the questions he has, the jailed has all night to respond. If you have a better implementation feel free to offer it and I will consider it.

[ika]

As for the jailor to avoid the need of anonymous accounts, and to prevent spam. The implementation will be the jailor pm's with his jail target the questions he has, the jailed has all night to respond. If you have a better implementation feel free to offer it and I will consider it.

perople usally use offsite fourms

try freefourms.org

if you like i can set up a offstie fourm for you for the jailor and i could be the outside player who gets the lst

[BorkBot]

^
What ika said. Off-site forums are your friend.

You'll probably want a night chat for your indians as well, don't you?

[Titus]

Can a player win multiple roles?

[Cryptonic]

Can a player win multiple roles?

-Players may receive more than one role through voting, they may only select one roles action to use at night.

yes

[Titus]

I am not a fan of this idea. What's to stop the town from piling on the roles to the confirmed townie?

[ika]

I am not a fan of this idea. What's to stop the town from piling on the roles to the confirmed townie?

the witch controlling action, cheif killing person, other then that not much. it would be dumb for the twons do do that.

-Players may receive more than one role through voting, they may only select one roles action to use at night.

so that is a restriction so it wouldnt be ideal for one town to have evey role

[Titus]

Is voting for a role mandatory? If someone doesn't receive a majority, will the role be assigned? Can people no vote to save the role for the next day?

[ika]

Is voting for a role mandatory? If someone doesn't receive a majority, will the role be assigned? Can people no vote to save the role for the next day?

i think its not mandatory but recommended due to the mafia, it never said you have to achev majority. its just who has the most votes. If none of the colonist vote the mafia will just vote each other can take the role for themselfs

[Cryptonic]

I am not a fan of this idea. What's to stop the town from piling on the roles to the confirmed townie?

Because the mafia will just kill them. Plus, what's the point of having only 1 PR?

And youre asking question that have been answered already.

[42shadow42]

^
What ika said. Off-site forums are your friend.

You'll probably want a night chat for your indians as well, don't you?

Yes, I assumed this was provided here?

I am not a fan of this idea. What's to stop the town from piling on the roles to the confirmed townie?

The setup rules have been designed to make this an ineffective strategy.

Is voting for a role mandatory? If someone doesn't receive a majority, will the role be assigned? Can people no vote to save the role for the next day?

No, you do not have to vote. Yes, roles do not require majority. No, the role cannot be saved.

[BorkBot]

Yes, I assumed this was provided here?

No, this is only done for the big FMs.

SFM and MFM use off-site forums for this, because you need administrator rights and for obvious reasons, we can't provide those for the entire SC2 Mafia forum.

https://www.freeforums.org/

is a good place to set up your own forum.

Or if you're not sure how to go about setting one up, you could use someone else's FM forum, like ika proposed.

[Cryptonic]

If you have any questions about nightchats, PM me and I can help you set them up.

[BorkBot]

Please let us know when you've sorted out the night chats issue.

This will be approved when it's done.

[ika]

@shadow if you like i can set up a night chat for them.

[Cryptonic]

He's been PMing me about it.
Last i've heard, early this morning, he had his boards set up and was in the middle of making accounts.

[ika]

He's been PMing me about it.
Last i've heard, early this morning, he had his boards set up and was in the middle of making accounts.

oh neat! guess that works then

[42shadow42]

Please let us know when you've sorted out the night chats issue.

This will be approved when it's done.

Oh sweet, I've got a forum setup, but haven't got around to setting up accounts and testing access rules since I spoke with him.

[42shadow42]

I think its setup properly, asked cryptonic to take a look and make sure the permissions were right, if they are its ready, who should I submit my role distribution order to?

[Cryptonic]

Yea, it all looks good.
Approved, GL Hosting.

[ypmagic]

/presign.

[NoctiZ]

Ya can we presign? :3