Which religion should I choose?

[Legacy]

These people are either stupid, extremists, or sheep. They call this "faith". Faith is believing in something that has absolutely no evidence that it is true.

These are the reasons why most people join adopt a religion:
-They are sheep and do what their friends do.
-They are forced to.
-They fear they will die, and in this moment of fear they go irrational and think that a religion that has false or no evidence can have a way for them to live again after death.

The problem is that no religion has sufficient evidence - the only evidence they do have is evidence that has no evidence for itself or is extremely unlikely or false.


But anyways, we shouldn't be deciding your religion for you. Find whichever one fits you best or find no one at all.

[Brodersen]

It starts to seem to me that religion is more like a combination of adventure thinking + wish thinking + self therapy + egoism. It's something you want to be true, for your own beneficial reasons.

· There are NO people in the world that are convinced that religion is true, but at the same time honestly and deeply wish that it wasn't true.
· There are ONLY people in the world that are convinced that religion is true, and honestly and deeply also wish that it is really true.
· That tells me religion only exists because some people wish it was true, and NOT because people are convinced it's true but wish it wasn't.
· That tell me religion can only be wish-thinking.

· If I was wrong in my statement above, then; if religion was not only wish-thinking, then there would exist people that honestly and deeply wish religion was not true, but are convinced it is. This is not the case, except for people that are FORCED/BRAINWASHED to belive in something, but then it doesn't count doess it?
I mean people like kids being indoctrinated/forced to believe by their parents, doesn't count, as they honestly and deeply don't belive, and will seek evidence of the opposite (OR be open to the opposite) and eventually most likely turn atheist OR slowly stop to belive when the indoctrination stops OR learn to wish religion was true, and then it's just back to my first statement.

[Brodersen]

In short:

It is impossible to belive a religion is true based on arguments, unless you wish those arguments where true in the first place, rather than being convinced they are true (unless forced by a parent or extremist, through indoctrination or brainwashing).
...Therefor religion is based not on convincing arguments that survives critical thinking, but rather wish-thinking or forced wish-thinking.

In shorter:

Religion is based on wish-thinking, and wishing the arguments where true, or trough forced wish-thinking. It is not based on critical thinking.


Best:

"Nobody will tell you they are a believer, but wish they weren't"

[Nick]

Also if there is 1000 many different religions in the world (from big to small religions, all religions), and only 1 can be true religion, then the other 999 religions are not true (dont know which one is the true religion).

But if 999 all other religions are not true, then why can the last 1 also not just be not true just as much as the other 999??

Who started this one true religion shit?

Since you brought it up...

Similarly can all 1000 be partially true and partially false? Why black and white?

[Damus_Graves]

Who started this one true religion shit?

Since you brought it up...

Similarly can all 1000 be partially true and partially false? Why black and white?

1000 religions cannot be true and cannot be false at the same time.

Reason for this:
Religions are beliefs and with enough people believing them they becomes truths.
Once people move on from that belief they become false.

[Nick]

1000 religions cannot be true and cannot be false at the same time.

Reason for this:
Religions are beliefs and with enough people believing them they becomes truths.
Once people move on from that belief they become false.

So you think they really believe everything in the package? Or one false statement invalidates the others?

[Damus_Graves]

So you think they really believe everything in the package? Or one false statement invalidates the others?

Beliefs (In this case Religions) are not perfect facts and hence are not subjugated to requiring logic to believe in them.

You don't follow a religion because it makes the most sense to you. You follow it because it feels right.

[Nick]

Beliefs (In this case Religions) are not perfect facts and hence are not subjugated to requiring logic to believe in them.

You don't follow a religion because it makes the most sense to you. You follow it because it feels right.

Hmm... wrong frequency. Can't communicate.

Original discussion is whether religion is true/false.

Regarding your current point. Fully agree.

[Brodersen]

1000 religions cannot be true and cannot be false at the same time.

Reason for this:
Religions are beliefs and with enough people believing them they becomes truths.
Once people move on from that belief they become false.

Not true.

What you are saying is that if everyone in the world belives that there's a red ball in the box, then it becomes true.
But that doesn't mean that when you actually open the box, the box could instead be empty.

[Nick]

Not true.

What you are saying is that if everyone in the world belives that there's a red ball in the box, then it becomes true.
But that doesn't mean that when you actually open the box, the box could instead be empty.

If religion is all but a red ball and not red balls...

[Damus_Graves]

Not true.

What you are saying is that if everyone in the world belives that there's a red ball in the box, then it becomes true.
But that doesn't mean that when you actually open the box, the box could instead be empty.

Everyone in the world believed that the earth was flat. To them it was actually flat and not round because Everyone believed it.

If My religion, which we are talking about at this moment, is that there is a red ball in the box. Then there is a red ball in the box no matter if one actually exists.
The Red Ball could mean several things and not just be a red ball by itsself. But anywho:


Perception drives reality.
During the Greek period, Greeks believed there were Gods living on a mountain. It seems absurd now but to them Gods were actually there and so they were.

Beliefs do not require proof to believe in them.

[RLVG]

Everyone in the world believed that the earth was flat. To them it was actually flat and not round because Everyone believed it.

Not everyone believed it was flat as some early people did in fact have the math & reason why it's round, sadly they would get killed / lynched for saying it's round.

[Damus_Graves]

Not everyone believed it was flat as some early people did in fact have the math & reason why it's round, sadly they would get killed / lynched for saying it's round.

Well yes but there was a period of time between believing the Earth was flat and then beginning to use Math+Reason to deduce it was not.


Edit: Personally I believe HooDoo Magic exists. Give me all the facts you want to disprove my beliefs and you won't change my mind.

[RLVG]

Well yes but there was a period of time between believing the Earth was flat and then beginning to use Math+Reason to deduce it was not.

Would that mean animals believed the earth to be flat? There's birds for example.

I'm talking about before the egyptians existed, when humans were primitive. No stone temples, instead simple deduction of enoivrements like the shadow - distance.

[Damus_Graves]

Would that mean animals believed the earth to be flat? There's birds for example.

I'm talking about before the egyptians existed, when humans were primitive. No stone temples, instead simple deduction of enoivrements like the shadow - distance.

I am not counting in animals RLVG. Only humans

Way back then I believe they were more worried about surviving than thinking "Flat or Round"

[oops_ur_dead]

Also if there is 1000 many different religions in the world (from big to small religions, all religions), and only 1 can be true religion, then the other 999 religions are not true (dont know which one is the true religion).

But if 999 all other religions are not true, then why can the last 1 also not just be not true just as much as the other 999??

wut. You just that that the one religion is the true one, and then contradicted yourself.

Who started this one true religion shit?

Since you brought it up...

Similarly can all 1000 be partially true and partially false? Why black and white?

Because then that "true" religion would be a religion in and of itself, and outside the scope of the 1000 we're looking at.

[Admiral]

This is the worst way to find religion that you could possibly attempt.

[Quark]

Atheism. Everything looks as it would if there was no god.

"What is true is already so.
Owning up to it doesn't make it worse.
Not being open about it doesn't make it go away.
And because it's true, it is what is there to be interacted with.
Anything untrue isn't there to be lived.
People can stand what is true,
for they are already enduring it."
—LL Cool J

[Ash]

Atheism. Everything looks as it would if there was no god.

"What is true is already so.
Owning up to it doesn't make it worse.
Not being open about it doesn't make it go away.
And because it's true, it is what is there to be interacted with.
Anything untrue isn't there to be lived.
People can stand what is true,
for they are already enduring it."
—LL Cool J

Choosing a religion doesn't make it any worse.

[louiswill]

Time to create religion for your own, and then decide which closest religion to join in.

I.E:

Democracy, equality, blah and blah blah,

then go check a religion which approve all above with acceptable doctrine.

[Damus_Graves]

Time to create religion for your own, and then decide which closest religion to join in.

I.E:

Democracy, equality, blah and blah blah,

then go check a religion which approve all above with acceptable doctrine.

Democracy =/= Religion

[louiswill]

Democracy =/= Religion

There are some religion doctrine pro democracy. true?

[Rocshi]

There are some religion doctrine pro democracy. true?

nah not really

Buddhists don't care about politics at all
You can do that

[louiswill]

nah not really

Buddhists don't care about politics at all
You can do that

So buddhists pro democracy? I am not sure...

Anyway that is not the point,

can not we create one then?

[Rocshi]

So buddhists pro democracy? I am not sure...

Anyway that is not the point,

can not we create one then?

No religion is pro-democracy, EVERYTHING is decided by a higher power.

Buddhism is the only one that doesn't force it on secular politics.


It's called non-religious, apatheism, atheism, idunno

[CmG]

go pro at psychology then choose nihilism. GG you won!

[Weee]

My answer to the topic:

"Which religion should I choose?"

RE: NONE

:P

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