Peition: Build a better "town"!

[Ouguiya]

Hello everyone, and especially to DR (if he's here).

My concern today, is this: While Mafia itself is a fantastic and really fun game to play, what on earth is this "town" supposed to be, that is shown at night?

In all honesty, looking around, the town consists mainly of:

• Gray containers
• Wind Turbines
• A few radar stations
• Nuke plants
• Strangely misplaced corn fields
• And lots and lots of yellow boxes. (What's with all those yellow boxes?!?!)

In short, the "town" looks more like a weird post-apocalyptic prison colony than a town that any sane person would like to live in.

I hereby humbly suggest to maybe rework the town to look more townlike. I understand that it should look spooky and dangerous, especially at night where the camera moves around it, but aren't there better ways of doing that than placing containers, radar stations and tons of yellow boxes everywhere?

Cheers and thanks for any comments, criticism or rebukes for my post ;-)

[AppleyNO]

Yellow box = Donator, there is one per donor....

Agree with this...
Strangely misplaced corn fields

[Pokemon Trainer Red]

+1 on this.

[Chane]

+1 but the boxes must stay.

[Cryptonic]

+1 but the boxes must stay.

Glory be to the Boxes

[Ouguiya]

Ah ok. I have been playing this game for a while now and nobody EVER was able to tell me what those boxes were for, but I guess it makes sense. They can be used as lanterns, since they glow anyway xD

[Claire_Stanfield]

Wait, DR uses all those donations to buy yellow boxes?

[Bruno]

Wow rude. He worked hard on that town, show manners.

Also, I thought boxes were for patrons and that's why there's names next to them.

[Cryptonic]

Wow rude. He worked hard on that town, show manners.

Agreed. It's common knowledge that it look DR longer to plan out and set up the town, than it did to write the entire game.

[Bruno]

It's based off of his hometown.

[Lazers]

Have a box warehouse for the boxes

[Glip]

Agreed. It's common knowledge that it look DR longer to plan out and set up the town, than it did to write the entire game.

I understand that's the reason why SC2 took so long to come out after Brood War. They had to wait for DR to finish designing the town first. Otherwise it woulda been out back in 2002, with the release of World of StarCraft following up in 2004.

When they had to delay the release of SC2 for DR, they decided to come up with World of WarCraft instead of StarCraft, as the storyline of WoS wouldn't make sense without the story of SC2 preceding it. Sad circumstances.

It did, however, give them the time to expand SC2 into three separate games which they could sell to milk us for all the money they want.

[Cryptonic]

@ Bruno, Yes. If you watch a replay, you can see a command center at the start. That's his house!!!!!!!

@ Glip, WoS would have been 1000000 times better

[Mugy]

I understand that's the reason why SC2 took so long to come out after Brood War. They had to wait for DR to finish designing the town first. Otherwise it woulda been out back in 2002, with the release of World of StarCraft following up in 2004.

When they had to delay the release of SC2 for DR, they decided to come up with World of WarCraft instead of StarCraft, as the storyline of WoS wouldn't make sense without the story of SC2 preceding it. Sad circumstances.

It did, however, give them the time to expand SC2 into three separate games which they could sell to milk us for all the money they want.

*le sad

Though I agree, town should be remade and expanded. With the new camera views the town looks incredibly odd because it ends suddenly. The town should be 2x bigger

[ThatAwesomeDude]

his hometown

should be 2x bigger

I lol'd.

[Ouguiya]

Wow rude. He worked hard on that town, show manners.

Also, I thought boxes were for patrons and that's why there's names next to them.

Chill friend. First, I never denied there was a lot of work which went into that. I am certain that a lot did. While I always respect people who work hard, I myself always found it helpful when people told me I was working into the wrong direction, which can always happen, as I'm sure you'll agree.

Second, I didn't know it was his hometown. But I still doubt that his hometown looks exactly like this one. You mean his hometown has corn fields amidst nuke plants where green barrels are out in the open being rolled around, all this overlooked by radar stations with searchlights, steep cliffs and absolutely no streets to connect anything?

As to the names, written in the grass, these always confused me, but I guess they make sense. There are too many boxes though to account only for the patrons. But I get that point now. It's a cool idea in my opinion, if only it were somewhat more visible ingame.

[Dark.Revenant]

Those boxes are patrons. The golden ones with names next to them are benefactors. The regular donors get a huge red community communist box on the bottom left corner. Box sizes correlate to donation amount, btw.

Also, the town IS a post-apocalyptic prison colony. Why the fuck else would nobody leave when there are so many serial killers, arsonists, crazy people, and mobsters?

[gaspiden]

@Dark.Revenant

Hey DR, I've always been curious, how much do of the game do you make yourself? Like do you code everything? If so, that's pretty impressive. What coding languages do you use and where did you learn how to program videogames/your previous experience?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, who does the animations/artwork? Did you model the map as well?

I'm interested in creating my own custom SC2 game, but have no previous experience or knowledge on programming Just started learnin python a couple of days ago.

[Dark.Revenant]

1. I code everything, yes. Learned coding on my lonesome, and I know the C family, especially C++, the best.
2. A bunch of people, credited in the map, did some of the textures. The rest is Blizzard-made.

[Damus_Graves]

Those boxes are patrons. The golden ones with names next to them are benefactors. The regular donors get a huge red community communist box on the bottom left corner. Box sizes correlate to donation amount, btw.

Also, the town IS a post-apocalyptic prison colony. Why the fuck else would nobody leave when there are so many serial killers, arsonists, crazy people, and mobsters?

mans got a point here.

[Ikuti]

1. I code everything, yes. Learned coding on my lonesome, and I know the C family, especially C++, the best.

Programming with the C++ is the way to make good mods and program any good not web game :]

[gaspiden]

@Dark.Revenant

Nice. Considering you're 19 and the game is what, 2 years old? You must've made it in highschool lol. I'll stick with making batch files that open an infinite number of tabs . I always heard C++ is the best, but some others say Java is the most powerful. Which doesn't really make sense, but it's widely used in the commercial industry. Do you know how to code using Java? I only know a tiny bit with the MC server I co-own with my friends.

As much as programming does sound cool, I'll stick with my dream of being a Mech or civil engineer.

What's your major?

I'm assuming since you were able to figure out how to code yourself, you must have a knack for it. Software engineering?

[Fallacy]

This town design is a masterpiece.

One must take into context the game; the first time I played maf, this town appeared in the "sc2 universe" as a beacon of light from the whole sci-fi shebang, as a forgotten remnant of humanity holding on to a thread of morality and justice in subsistance to subsist an uncertain future.

When night fell, I noticed the elements of a film noir were present and camera perspectives and subject added a Hitchcock-esque feel mixed with the absurdity of machines coupled to lost souls that have been dehumanized by their own technostructure, wandering to an uncertain destiny with means to bring goodness in making decisions and executing fellow brothers of flesh that have been corrupted to various degrees, in the same vein as the relentless industrial wheels churn with the intent of a better future that somehow also meant their downfall.

And when the sun rose, I noticed this town of bare and faceless beings still manage to hold on to their duty, to preserve anl instinct of survival and be as much as possible themselves in the essence of their individual nature with what is left of their society by the means of speech and wit. I was one of them.

[Glip]

This town design is a masterpiece.

One must take into context the game; the first time I played maf, this town appeared in the "sc2 universe" as a beacon of light from the whole sci-fi shebang, as a forgotten remnant of humanity holding on to a thread of morality and justice in subsistance to subsist an uncertain future.

When night fell, I noticed the elements of a film noir were present and camera perspectives and subject added a Hitchcock-esque feel mixed with the absurdity of machines coupled to lost souls that have been dehumanized by their own technostructure, wandering to an uncertain destiny with means to bring goodness in making decisions and executing fellow brothers of flesh that have been corrupted to various degrees, in the same vein as the relentless industrial wheels churn with the intent of a better future that somehow also meant their downfall.

And when the sun rose, I noticed this town of bare and faceless beings still manage to hold on to their duty, to preserve anl instinct of survival and be as much as possible themselves in the essence of their individual nature with what is left of their society by the means of speech and wit. I was one of them.

You should be an English teacher.

[Fallacy]

Thanks

[Unranking]

@Dark.Revenant

Nice. Considering you're 19 and the game is what, 2 years old? You must've made it in highschool lol. I'll stick with making batch files that open an infinite number of tabs . I always heard C++ is the best, but some others say Java is the most powerful. Which doesn't really make sense, but it's widely used in the commercial industry. Do you know how to code using Java? I only know a tiny bit with the MC server I co-own with my friends.

As much as programming does sound cool, I'll stick with my dream of being a Mech or civil engineer.

What's your major?

I'm assuming since you were able to figure out how to code yourself, you must have a knack for it. Software engineering?

Java is widely used on numerous devices that you might not be aware of, such as vending machines, VCRs, watches, etc. It's considered more secure because you do not get access to lower level memory functions as you would in a language like C++ (generally). This makes it ideal for programming those devices. It also means you don't need to worry about memory management and garbage collection because the virtual machine takes care of that. Syntax wise they're almost identical as you probably know.

If you want to make a game, though, start with an existing engine such as SC2, Unity, or even GameMaker.

[Dark.Revenant]

@Dark.Revenant

Nice. Considering you're 19 and the game is what, 2 years old? You must've made it in highschool lol. I'll stick with making batch files that open an infinite number of tabs . I always heard C++ is the best, but some others say Java is the most powerful. Which doesn't really make sense, but it's widely used in the commercial industry. Do you know how to code using Java? I only know a tiny bit with the MC server I co-own with my friends.

As much as programming does sound cool, I'll stick with my dream of being a Mech or civil engineer.

What's your major?

I'm assuming since you were able to figure out how to code yourself, you must have a knack for it. Software engineering?

I'm actually a few days from being 20 and the game is about 15 months old; I made it in college. Also, Java is NOT the most powerful, but it's the most standard and cross-platform.

Computer Engineering.

[RookRanger]

I'm actually a few days from being 20 and the game is about 15 months old; I made it in college. Also, Java is NOT the most powerful, but it's the most standard and cross-platform.

Computer Engineering.

DR has spoken anyway is there a bar in the town because no bar no cool people like jim raynor or me the head vigilante
nice to see your back and all looks like i owe oops a drink

[Ouguiya]

Those boxes are patrons. The golden ones with names next to them are benefactors. The regular donors get a huge red community communist box on the bottom left corner. Box sizes correlate to donation amount, btw.

Also, the town IS a post-apocalyptic prison colony. Why the fuck else would nobody leave when there are so many serial killers, arsonists, crazy people, and mobsters?

I stand corrected. I guess this really does make sense. Hadn't thought of it like that.

[Guardian]

Replace the "houses" with nice, red ones.
Oh, and Use Big Lanterns instead of Yellow Boxes

Come to think of it, Adding a barracks as the mafia hideout wouldn't hurt..

[Chane]

I learned my first piece of java-script and normal java while 12.

was very hard ö

respect DR.