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When I'm active I can do things pretty well. The problem for me is that my activity in a game is a coin flip. Also those few games that I am active in I make some stupid mistake and I end up getting killed.

Me as FM Morgan I was doing well (other than the fuck up with the Blackmail) but I died before I could do anything more.
Me as FM Jace Beleran (Fuck that last name) I was doing well until I made a mistake attempting to distance myself from the other Priest. But then I was killed before I could fix it.

I guess I simply need to be active more.

When I'm active I can do things pretty well. The problem for me is that my activity in a game is a coin flip. Also those few games that I am active in I make some stupid mistake and I end up getting killed.

Me as FM Morgan I was doing well (other than the fuck up with the Blackmail) but I died before I could do anything more.
Me as FM Jace Beleran (Fuck that last name) I was doing well until I made a mistake attempting to distance myself from the other Priest. But then I was killed before I could fix it.

I guess I simply need to be active more.

Poor Beaver though.

Poor Beaver though.

That one post that I called out Snake to be the Riddler on... I should have known... my gut feeling tossed aside because I thought numbers didn't allow it.

Ugh so annoying.

Can we COM claim at this point?

Also Riddler, why didn't you kill more? It was obvious what so many people were. I would have gone on a massive killing spree. But still, you have potential, you should join the FM. (If we get the people for it :) )

Anyways I was just an average Citizen.

That one post that I called out Snake to be the Riddler on... I should have known... my gut feeling tossed aside because I thought numbers didn't allow it.

Ugh so annoying.

Can we COM claim at this point?

Also Riddler, why didn't you kill more? It was obvious what so many people were. I would have gone on a massive killing spree. But still, you have potential, you should join the FM. (If we get the people for it )

Anyways I was just an average Citizen.

[QUOTE=MFM Cat;465026]Maybe Moose was an actress. There has to be a reason why the mafia didn't kill.[/QUOTE]

Narwhal says we can't have an Actress due to night actions.

The only other solution would be if I was the scum. So you can tell why I am iffy about Elephant.

Cause I'm not scum.

Originally Posted by MFM Cat

Maybe Moose was an actress. There has to be a reason why the mafia didn't kill.

Narwhal says we can't have an Actress due to night actions.

The only other solution would be if I was the scum. So you can tell why I am iffy about Elephant.

Cause I'm not scum.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;465022]-_- Still Harvey Dent. Actress NOT possible. Due to night 5 mafia action count. I was role blocked. Depending on Framer mechanics is related to Dolphins feedback.[/QUOTE]

I don't see how Escort is possible due to math without an Actress.

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

Still Harvey Dent. Actress NOT possible. Due to night 5 mafia action count. I was role blocked. Depending on Framer mechanics is related to Dolphins feedback.

I don't see how Escort is possible due to math without an Actress.

I see the possibility of a second drug dealer that drugged Narwhal and opted out of killing.

Also, on a slightly less probable chance since the Doctor was told to WIFOM between Dolphin and Narwhal there is a chance Narwhal is now Two Face and decided to side with the scum.

Of course Moose or someone else might have just been an Actress. And if there is a Dead Actress I believe we can afford a mislynch. It just all depends on what the Riddler does.

And one more thing. Who did the Joker douse?

I see the possibility of a second drug dealer that drugged Narwhal and opted out of killing.

Also, on a slightly less probable chance since the Doctor was told to WIFOM between Dolphin and Narwhal there is a chance Narwhal is now Two Face and decided to side with the scum.

Of course Moose or someone else might have just been an Actress. And if there is a Dead Actress I believe we can afford a mislynch. It just all depends on what the Riddler does.

And one more thing. Who did the Joker douse?

Wow, the Town really made a turn around this game... I thought it was over earlier.

Wow, the Town really made a turn around this game... I thought it was over earlier.

[vote]MFM Elephant[/vote]

His claim is only possible (from my POV) if Moose was an Actress.

Frog is trying to hard, at this point I don't see Armadillo being scum.

-vote MFM Elephant

His claim is only possible (from my POV) if Moose was an Actress.

Frog is trying to hard, at this point I don't see Armadillo being scum.

[QUOTE=MFM Dolphin;464902]Fuck it, I think this is more important.

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Llama is the Joker. [/COLOR] I tracked him into Narwhal, I didn't actually track Armadillo.

I was waiting on the reveal because I didn't want to risk revealing him if he was doctor (which is what I had him chalked up as in my notes), but that's impossible if he role claimed to mafia architect.

If he were actually Jester he would have played today differently imo.

So Riddler is night immune.

Deal with the fake doctor claim tomorrow, lynch the Joker today, unless you want to proceed otherwise Narwhal.

[vote]MFM Llama[/vote]

Narwhal, hammer one of them immediately please (Llama or Octopus)

Good luck all, there's no way I'm not dead tonight considering doc will keep Harvey Oswald alive[/QUOTE]

I'm unsure as to what makes you think Armadillo is lying. But anyways, at this point I gotta sleep, answer and I'll read in the morning?

Originally Posted by MFM Dolphin

Fuck it, I think this is more important.

Llama is the Joker. I tracked him into Narwhal, I didn't actually track Armadillo.

I was waiting on the reveal because I didn't want to risk revealing him if he was doctor (which is what I had him chalked up as in my notes), but that's impossible if he role claimed to mafia architect.

If he were actually Jester he would have played today differently imo.

So Riddler is night immune.

Deal with the fake doctor claim tomorrow, lynch the Joker today, unless you want to proceed otherwise Narwhal.

-vote MFM Llama

Narwhal, hammer one of them immediately please (Llama or Octopus)

Good luck all, there's no way I'm not dead tonight considering doc will keep Harvey Oswald alive

I'm unsure as to what makes you think Armadillo is lying. But anyways, at this point I gotta sleep, answer and I'll read in the morning?

I actually think Llama is Mafia. He buddied with Tiger and only lynched on the hammer, he isn't voting Octopus... I could almost see Frog as the Joker. Thoughts?

I actually think Llama is Mafia. He buddied with Tiger and only lynched on the hammer, he isn't voting Octopus... I could almost see Frog as the Joker. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=MFM Kangaroo;464893]So unless we get another Doctor claim, or Moose is Actress I pretty much know exactly who the scum are.

(I know we got two BP claims, yet still. I also [B]realize some people think that Frog is Gordon[/B], but I have a feeling I l know who the real one is)[/QUOTE]

Fix'd.

Originally Posted by MFM Kangaroo

So unless we get another Doctor claim, or Moose is Actress I pretty much know exactly who the scum are.

(I know we got two BP claims, yet still. I also realize some people think that Frog is Gordon, but I have a feeling I l know who the real one is)

Fix'd.

So unless we get another Doctor claim, or Moose is Actress I pretty much know exactly who the scum are.

(I know we got two BP claims, yet still. I also know Frog is claiming Gordon, but I have a feeling I l know who the real one is)

So unless we get another Doctor claim, or Moose is Actress I pretty much know exactly who the scum are.

(I know we got two BP claims, yet still. I also know Frog is claiming Gordon, but I have a feeling I l know who the real one is)

And best of all Octopus even thinks I'm Town. :)

Watch him turn on me instantly when he sees that. (Unless I did my math wrong)

And best of all Octopus even thinks I'm Town.

Watch him turn on me instantly when he sees that. (Unless I did my math wrong)

[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Joker
Riddler[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Random Falcone Gangster
Random Falcone Gangster[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Commissioner Gordon
Harvey Dent
Kangaroo's Role
Bulletproof
Detective/Lookout
Doctor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FFFF"]Random Neutral[/COLOR]

If I did my subtraction right and subtracted the right amount of people due to deads, this leaves 0 room for Octopus's claim. Even if I was Escort (Not Confirming or Denying) Octopus is not what he says he is. Although this list does confirm me claiming that I am NOT Commissioner Gordon. (I know who is though. :) )

[vote]MFM Octopus[/vote]

I think Llama is scum, but at this point, the Joker fucked up too much to win, and with us having a Dent who still has his vest lynching the Mafia is in our best interests. (I mean, we have come to the conclusion that if Octopus is Scum then he is Mafia, right?)

Even if Armadillo isn't the Doctor, there is no room for Octopus's claim. The only chance he has of not being Mafia is if there is a dead Actress, which I sincerely doubt at this point.

Joker
Riddler
Random Falcone Gangster
Random Falcone Gangster
Commissioner Gordon
Harvey Dent
Kangaroo's Role
Bulletproof
Detective/Lookout
Doctor
Random Neutral

If I did my subtraction right and subtracted the right amount of people due to deads, this leaves 0 room for Octopus's claim. Even if I was Escort (Not Confirming or Denying) Octopus is not what he says he is. Although this list does confirm me claiming that I am NOT Commissioner Gordon. (I know who is though. )

-vote MFM Octopus

I think Llama is scum, but at this point, the Joker fucked up too much to win, and with us having a Dent who still has his vest lynching the Mafia is in our best interests. (I mean, we have come to the conclusion that if Octopus is Scum then he is Mafia, right?)

Even if Armadillo isn't the Doctor, there is no room for Octopus's claim. The only chance he has of not being Mafia is if there is a dead Actress, which I sincerely doubt at this point.

Just going to clarify for Narwhal. I am NOT the Doctor. I mean, I saw your list and if I'm correct I saw you assumed that I am.

Now then once again my role list must be totally changed to compensate for the fact we have a Mayor confirmed Doctor and an unCCed claim with no Riddler killing him (which makes me suspect Elephant).

Sorry for my relative inactivity today. School had a blood drive and I donated and now I'm feeling all weird...

Just going to clarify for Narwhal. I am NOT the Doctor. I mean, I saw your list and if I'm correct I saw you assumed that I am.

Now then once again my role list must be totally changed to compensate for the fact we have a Mayor confirmed Doctor and an unCCed claim with no Riddler killing him (which makes me suspect Elephant).

Sorry for my relative inactivity today. School had a blood drive and I donated and now I'm feeling all weird...

Guess who Narhwal can hammer with his vote?

Guess who Narhwal can hammer with his vote?

[vote]MFM Llama[/vote]

Last night while I was waiting for the day to open I saw none other than MFM Elephant sitting in the forum. For all we know he could be the Joker rather than Llama and simply hasn't been replaced due to consistently sending in night actions and burning.

-vote MFM Llama

Last night while I was waiting for the day to open I saw none other than MFM Elephant sitting in the forum. For all we know he could be the Joker rather than Llama and simply hasn't been replaced due to consistently sending in night actions and burning.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]MFM Armadillo[/COLOR] (This is only in the event we don't have a dead Actress): Because Octopus innoed him (typical scrub mistake), voting pattern, and also numbers.
[COLOR="#00FFFF"]MFM Beaver[/COLOR]: He claimed it, no reason not to believe him.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Cat[/COLOR]: I believe him way more than Frog.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Dolphin[/COLOR]: Got a Mafia lynched, and I doubt a bussing at this point.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Elephant[/COLOR]: Numbers.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]MFM Frog[/COLOR]: I believe Cat more than him and I've thought he was scummy all game. Probably the Riddler.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Kangaroo[/COLOR]: What a Badass.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]MFM Llama[/COLOR]: Both numbers and his actions. It doesn't seem Town and is more like "IDGAF" Probably the Joker.
[COLOR="#00FFFF"]MFM Narwhal[/COLOR]: Obv.
[COLOR="#FF0000"]MFM Octopus[/COLOR]: Called Dolphin Scum.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Snake[/COLOR]: Ehh... the drug was real. I don't like his reaction, but he did say that he was new.

Taken from my last will.

MFM Armadillo (This is only in the event we don't have a dead Actress): Because Octopus innoed him (typical scrub mistake), voting pattern, and also numbers.
MFM Beaver: He claimed it, no reason not to believe him.
MFM Cat: I believe him way more than Frog.
MFM Dolphin: Got a Mafia lynched, and I doubt a bussing at this point.
MFM Elephant: Numbers.
MFM Frog: I believe Cat more than him and I've thought he was scummy all game. Probably the Riddler.
MFM Kangaroo: What a Badass.
MFM Llama: Both numbers and his actions. It doesn't seem Town and is more like "IDGAF" Probably the Joker.
MFM Narwhal: Obv.
MFM Octopus: Called Dolphin Scum.
MFM Snake: Ehh... the drug was real. I don't like his reaction, but he did say that he was new.

Taken from my last will.

[QUOTE=MFM Beaver;464740]I believe hes trying to suggest that I witched the tailor to Snake. At least, thats what I gathered from it.[/QUOTE]

How would he know unless he was Mafia and knew who his partner was supposed to target?

Originally Posted by MFM Beaver

I believe hes trying to suggest that I witched the tailor to Snake. At least, thats what I gathered from it.

How would he know unless he was Mafia and knew who his partner was supposed to target?

[QUOTE=MFM Llama;464733]inb4 kangaroo is escort.[/QUOTE]

I will not confirm or deny anything. Please keep speculating, it makes me feel good inside.

Also, Frog... wtf are you talking about? I don't think anyone understands what you're saying...

Originally Posted by MFM Llama

inb4 kangaroo is escort.

I will not confirm or deny anything. Please keep speculating, it makes me feel good inside.

Also, Frog... wtf are you talking about? I don't think anyone understands what you're saying...

[QUOTE=MFM Dolphin;464691]Also yeah from my deductions all 3 mafia are voting Frog so basically tl;dr what Narwhal said[/QUOTE]

Slip or mistake?

You say all three Mafia are voting Frog, but Rabbit, the guy you directly accuse of being Mafia isn't voting anyone.

Originally Posted by MFM Dolphin

Also yeah from my deductions all 3 mafia are voting Frog so basically tl;dr what Narwhal said

Slip or mistake?

You say all three Mafia are voting Frog, but Rabbit, the guy you directly accuse of being Mafia isn't voting anyone.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464669]Kangeroo, he says not mafia, but perhaps still means neutral.[/QUOTE]

I realized that, but how is he not Mafia?

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

Kangeroo, he says not mafia, but perhaps still means neutral.

I realized that, but how is he not Mafia?

[QUOTE=MFM Dolphin;464662]I'm a little paranoid of L-2 on Frog leading to a quickhammer...

Also would've been nice to have resolution between Armadillo/Kangaroo/Llama for final mafia but they're all voting Frog so oh well[/QUOTE]

Do you believe there is any possibility of Moose being an Actress or Tailored a Citizen? Because honestly the Actress almost seems like the perfect person to put into the Mafia Architect chat with people, and Moose was in it with Narwhal.

Originally Posted by MFM Dolphin

I'm a little paranoid of L-2 on Frog leading to a quickhammer...

Also would've been nice to have resolution between Armadillo/Kangaroo/Llama for final mafia but they're all voting Frog so oh well

Do you believe there is any possibility of Moose being an Actress or Tailored a Citizen? Because honestly the Actress almost seems like the perfect person to put into the Mafia Architect chat with people, and Moose was in it with Narwhal.

[QUOTE=MFM Dolphin;464639]MFM Cat [COLOR="#FFFF00"]NOT MAFIA[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Understandable.[/COLOR]
MFM Frog [COLOR="#FFFF00"]NOT MAFIA[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Where the fuck is this coming from? Because he was "supposedly" drugged into a fake douse or something? Frog to me is scummy as shit, and he could easily be lying to save his skin. Please explain your reasoning. If you say he was drugged then that means we either have a Drug Dealer and a Tailor, or two Drug Dealers, and I sincerely doubt the latter.[/COLOR]
MFM Snake [COLOR="#FFFF00"]NOT MAFIA[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Understandable from your POV, but I can't be sure until Rabbit or you has died.[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM Dolphin[/COLOR]
MFM Armadillo [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]This guy is wishy-washy so I honestly agree[/COLOR]
MFM Elephant [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Lurkers gonna lurk[/COLOR]
MFM Kangaroo [COLOR="#FFFFFF"].Look at this badass. But yeah, I can see the reasoning[/COLOR]
MFM Llama [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]I still think this guy is a NK.[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]MFM [/COLOR][COLOR="#00FFFF"]Narwhal[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Where'd you come up with this info? Obv lies and slander.[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FFFF"]MFM Beaver[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Derp[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]MFM Octopus [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Obv choice considering your POV.[/COLOR]
MFM Rabbit[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Obv choice considering your POV.[/COLOR]


Final mafia is in {Armadillo, Elephant, Kangaroo, Llama} assuming Beaver didn't lie about being neutral
There are only 4 green towns in the above list of the players with no colors in their names[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MFM Rabbit;464643]MFM Frog (5 [L-2]):
MFM Kangaroo, MFM Llama, MFM Octopus, MFM Armadillo, MFM Rabbit
MFM Rabbit (4 [L-3]):
MFM Snake, MFM Dolphin, MFM Cat, MFM Frog

Top to bottom, left to right
Frog - NK [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Where is this coming from?[/COLOR]
Kang - Town [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]I know, I really am a badass.[/COLOR]
Llama - Town [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]What? Why?[/COLOR]
Octopus - Town [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Understandable from your POV.[/COLOR]
Armadillo - Scum [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Considering all the claims and evidence, yes.[/COLOR]
Bunny - Clitizen [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Derp[/COLOR]
Snake - Town [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]This almost looks like a slip. You realize his suit claim is why people think you're Mafia right? If you think he is Town and telling the truth that gives people more incentive to believe Dolphin.[/COLOR]
Dolphin - Scum [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Obv from your POV[/COLOR]
Cat - Scum [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Run out of spots to put people in for town?[/COLOR]
Frog - NK [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]You really don't like this guy do you? Putting him in twice as the neutral killer both times. Guys I figured it out, the Joker and the Riddler are the same person. Of course that means you need to replace one of the people up top with NK since we have two on the field. At least you're consistent though.[/COLOR]

mixture of voting patterns + recollection of their post tones[/QUOTE]

Comments in white.

Originally Posted by MFM Dolphin

MFM Cat NOT MAFIA Understandable.
MFM Frog NOT MAFIA Where the fuck is this coming from? Because he was "supposedly" drugged into a fake douse or something? Frog to me is scummy as shit, and he could easily be lying to save his skin. Please explain your reasoning. If you say he was drugged then that means we either have a Drug Dealer and a Tailor, or two Drug Dealers, and I sincerely doubt the latter.
MFM Snake NOT MAFIA Understandable from your POV, but I can't be sure until Rabbit or you has died.
MFM Dolphin
MFM Armadillo This guy is wishy-washy so I honestly agree
MFM Elephant Lurkers gonna lurk
MFM Kangaroo .Look at this badass. But yeah, I can see the reasoning
MFM Llama I still think this guy is a NK.
MFM Narwhal Where'd you come up with this info? Obv lies and slander.
MFM Beaver Derp
MFM Octopus Obv choice considering your POV.
MFM Rabbit Obv choice considering your POV.


Final mafia is in {Armadillo, Elephant, Kangaroo, Llama} assuming Beaver didn't lie about being neutral
There are only 4 green towns in the above list of the players with no colors in their names

Originally Posted by MFM Rabbit

MFM Frog (5 [L-2]):
MFM Kangaroo, MFM Llama, MFM Octopus, MFM Armadillo, MFM Rabbit
MFM Rabbit (4 [L-3]):
MFM Snake, MFM Dolphin, MFM Cat, MFM Frog

Top to bottom, left to right
Frog - NK Where is this coming from?
Kang - Town I know, I really am a badass.
Llama - Town What? Why?
Octopus - Town Understandable from your POV.
Armadillo - Scum Considering all the claims and evidence, yes.
Bunny - Clitizen Derp
Snake - Town This almost looks like a slip. You realize his suit claim is why people think you're Mafia right? If you think he is Town and telling the truth that gives people more incentive to believe Dolphin.
Dolphin - Scum Obv from your POV
Cat - Scum Run out of spots to put people in for town?
Frog - NK You really don't like this guy do you? Putting him in twice as the neutral killer both times. Guys I figured it out, the Joker and the Riddler are the same person. Of course that means you need to replace one of the people up top with NK since we have two on the field. At least you're consistent though.

mixture of voting patterns + recollection of their post tones

Comments in white.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464556]Would Cat being Joker, Frog being Riddler make sense in this situation?[/QUOTE]

Hell, IDK. Cat doused no one and burned an empty slate to make it look like he wasn't the Joker, and Frog saw it as a potential opportunity to make people think he wasn't the Joker?

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

Would Cat being Joker, Frog being Riddler make sense in this situation?

Hell, IDK. Cat doused no one and burned an empty slate to make it look like he wasn't the Joker, and Frog saw it as a potential opportunity to make people think he wasn't the Joker?

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464553]BulletProof role is perma immune.
The Commissioner has one vest.
Cat stated that he was immune, not that a vest was used up.

Honestly. The Host needs to make it clear on feedback from Joker Burn.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... one sec I must have skimmed over that. Let me re-read the setup... again...

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

BulletProof role is perma immune.
The Commissioner has one vest.
Cat stated that he was immune, not that a vest was used up.

Honestly. The Host needs to make it clear on feedback from Joker Burn.

Hmm... one sec I must have skimmed over that. Let me re-read the setup... again...

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464551]I was IMMUNE to DAY BURN when reveal as Harvey Dent.
Didn't touch my Autovest.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. You have total immunity, the two claimants don't, they have auto vests. So while you might have received no feedback they probably would have received broken vest feedback.

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

I was IMMUNE to DAY BURN when reveal as Harvey Dent.
Didn't touch my Autovest.

Exactly. You have total immunity, the two claimants don't, they have auto vests. So while you might have received no feedback they probably would have received broken vest feedback.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464548]By the way.

I can also say, That when I was doused, and the Joker Ignited.

I Received no feedback,

There is nothing to say you receive attempted burn feedback in the setup.[/QUOTE]

Losing your vest is different than having total immunity.

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

By the way.

I can also say, That when I was doused, and the Joker Ignited.

I Received no feedback,

There is nothing to say you receive attempted burn feedback in the setup.

Losing your vest is different than having total immunity.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464528]I don't think that they're going to tailor town as town because of last wills, and if someone claims suited I'm pretty sure you can infer that they're not mafia. I don't see why they would really tailor anything but neutrals unless they tailor their own team[/QUOTE]

What difference does suiting someone as Neutral have as suiting them as Mafia. Either way they will still have last wills. The same applies to the Town. However the issue pops up on if they were lying or not in their last will. A Consigliere could easily claim that they were a Citizen and were tailored to be the Consigliere that they appear in the Graveyard to be. While a Mafia could easily be tailored as a Citizen and claim to be a Town PR that got tailored in their LW.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

I don't think that they're going to tailor town as town because of last wills, and if someone claims suited I'm pretty sure you can infer that they're not mafia. I don't see why they would really tailor anything but neutrals unless they tailor their own team

What difference does suiting someone as Neutral have as suiting them as Mafia. Either way they will still have last wills. The same applies to the Town. However the issue pops up on if they were lying or not in their last will. A Consigliere could easily claim that they were a Citizen and were tailored to be the Consigliere that they appear in the Graveyard to be. While a Mafia could easily be tailored as a Citizen and claim to be a Town PR that got tailored in their LW.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464524]I'm not trying to say I'm going to flip neutral, all I know is that I received suited feedback lol, and if Elephant was the Riddler i would really think he would be replaced by now. I know dolphin has been replaced but I think replacing a role like Riddler would take priority over a town role.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but the post that makes me think you are scummy makes you appear like you know you are going to flip Neutral if you die. It's like you didn't even consider they might try to make you appear to be a Mafia upon death, or that they might have thought you were a PR and wanted the Town to think you were a Citizen.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

I'm not trying to say I'm going to flip neutral, all I know is that I received suited feedback lol, and if Elephant was the Riddler i would really think he would be replaced by now. I know dolphin has been replaced but I think replacing a role like Riddler would take priority over a town role.

Yes, but the post that makes me think you are scummy makes you appear like you know you are going to flip Neutral if you die. It's like you didn't even consider they might try to make you appear to be a Mafia upon death, or that they might have thought you were a PR and wanted the Town to think you were a Citizen.

Dolphin is making sense to me, and the albeit small chance of Rabbit just so happening to target Snake the night he decided to potentially fake the Tailor claim is dead since he has stated he wasn't lying about his Citizen claim. However, I do not see this as auto-confirmed info on Octopus. However it makes me believe that Rabbit and Octopus are on the same team, while Dolphin is on the other. What teams the two parties are on still remains at odds to me.

Even if Rabbit is a Tailor/Drug Dealer I will still not trust Snake due to his overall reaction to the Suit/Drug(He could have easily seen it as an opportunity to say that even if he dies and shows up neutral he isn't). If Rabbit is not a Drug Dealer/Tailor then Dolphin is confirmed evil, and Snake really isn't looking good (There is potential that someone else suited or drugged him and Dolphin just threw that out.

I still think Dolphin could easily be scum. He or one of his teammates might have drugged or tailored Snake and then he claimed Rabbit did it to get the lynch off, and basically win the game at that point because there simply aren't enough Town left for us to be able to afford a mis-lynch.

However, I still am unsure about the Octopus/Dolphin situation, as it could go either way, so I am keeping my vote on Frog.

I think one more night is what we need to determine anything.

Also just a potential note. What if Elephant is the Riddler and that is why no one is dying despite claims. He could have easily shown up that one time when he killed Gorilla just to leave again.

Dolphin is making sense to me, and the albeit small chance of Rabbit just so happening to target Snake the night he decided to potentially fake the Tailor claim is dead since he has stated he wasn't lying about his Citizen claim. However, I do not see this as auto-confirmed info on Octopus. However it makes me believe that Rabbit and Octopus are on the same team, while Dolphin is on the other. What teams the two parties are on still remains at odds to me.

Even if Rabbit is a Tailor/Drug Dealer I will still not trust Snake due to his overall reaction to the Suit/Drug(He could have easily seen it as an opportunity to say that even if he dies and shows up neutral he isn't). If Rabbit is not a Drug Dealer/Tailor then Dolphin is confirmed evil, and Snake really isn't looking good (There is potential that someone else suited or drugged him and Dolphin just threw that out.

I still think Dolphin could easily be scum. He or one of his teammates might have drugged or tailored Snake and then he claimed Rabbit did it to get the lynch off, and basically win the game at that point because there simply aren't enough Town left for us to be able to afford a mis-lynch.

However, I still am unsure about the Octopus/Dolphin situation, as it could go either way, so I am keeping my vote on Frog.

I think one more night is what we need to determine anything.

Also just a potential note. What if Elephant is the Riddler and that is why no one is dying despite claims. He could have easily shown up that one time when he killed Gorilla just to leave again.

I want to know what you guys think. Should we try to lynch a Mafia or a Neutral today?

I want to know what you guys think. Should we try to lynch a Mafia or a Neutral today?

Dolphin isn't considering that Snake is scum and lied and that Rabbit could be a Town PR that visited Snake. Honestly, the Citizen claim could have just been to fuck with the Riddler.

Dolphin isn't considering that Snake is scum and lied and that Rabbit could be a Town PR that visited Snake. Honestly, the Citizen claim could have just been to fuck with the Riddler.

[QUOTE=MFM Frog;464462]ATTENTION!

We have a slip from the mafia!
Let me gather up the posts!

That is all.[/QUOTE]

What?

I don't believe a word you are saying...

Originally Posted by MFM Frog

ATTENTION!

We have a slip from the mafia!
Let me gather up the posts!

That is all.

What?

I don't believe a word you are saying...

[QUOTE=MFM Frog;464458]I was doused.[/QUOTE]

Well... you claimed this now?

But I was thinking... what if Cat is the Joker and he decided to douse nobody? His burn would kill no one and he would appear to be what he says he was.

The lack of a Riddler kill on him is disturbing.

Originally Posted by MFM Frog

I was doused.

Well... you claimed this now?

But I was thinking... what if Cat is the Joker and he decided to douse nobody? His burn would kill no one and he would appear to be what he says he was.

The lack of a Riddler kill on him is disturbing.

[QUOTE=MFM Llama;464456]wow quite a turn of events.

So we have not one but TWO investigative roles, each with five nights of investigative results.

We might have some hope yet.[/QUOTE]

Nope. Octopus claimed that Dolphin wasn't Town. That means one of them is scum. I doubt there being a Framer.

Originally Posted by MFM Llama

wow quite a turn of events.

So we have not one but TWO investigative roles, each with five nights of investigative results.

We might have some hope yet.

Nope. Octopus claimed that Dolphin wasn't Town. That means one of them is scum. I doubt there being a Framer.

[QUOTE=MFM Octopus;464450]I don´t think their is one why would I? I just wanted to make it clear that the 3 i found could also be all 3 mafia to find so many Not Town, while believing their is already dead mafia except Tiger would be hilarious or super lucky.[/QUOTE]

NVM I read that wrong. I thought you were saying one Mafia people under the dead people tailored.

Originally Posted by MFM Octopus

I don´t think their is one why would I? I just wanted to make it clear that the 3 i found could also be all 3 mafia to find so many Not Town, while believing their is already dead mafia except Tiger would be hilarious or super lucky.

NVM I read that wrong. I thought you were saying one Mafia people under the dead people tailored.

[QUOTE=MFM Octopus;464447]Well, i found 3 Not Town and one of the Neutrals is detection immune so their must be at least 1 mafia member under them.[/QUOTE]

Have you checked everyone in game? If not then you can't know for sure that there is a Tailor.

Originally Posted by MFM Octopus

Well, i found 3 Not Town and one of the Neutrals is detection immune so their must be at least 1 mafia member under them.

Have you checked everyone in game? If not then you can't know for sure that there is a Tailor.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464441]That's exactly why I think it was probably drugged, they would certainly be suiting mafia members before suiting random people, though I guess they've already had enough time to suit all their members[/QUOTE]

Tailor only has three charges. If he had tailored all his partners then he would be out. Albeit he can't have since Tiger wasn't tailored.

This honestly makes me suspect that we don't have a Tailor, and still have three Mafia on the field.

*shrug* could be wrong though.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

That's exactly why I think it was probably drugged, they would certainly be suiting mafia members before suiting random people, though I guess they've already had enough time to suit all their members

Tailor only has three charges. If he had tailored all his partners then he would be out. Albeit he can't have since Tiger wasn't tailored.

This honestly makes me suspect that we don't have a Tailor, and still have three Mafia on the field.

*shrug* could be wrong though.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464436]Stating that if I come up scum it's suited is obviously a huge scum move. The mafia are totally going to suit the town as town members[/QUOTE]

Why would they suit the Town at all? They could just use a last will. Unless they think the Town won't believe the Last Will.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

Stating that if I come up scum it's suited is obviously a huge scum move. The mafia are totally going to suit the town as town members

Why would they suit the Town at all? They could just use a last will. Unless they think the Town won't believe the Last Will.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464432]Also. Suits come after death so they cant suit and death same night.[/QUOTE]

And that just disproves the Witch theory I had. Considering there is a distinct possibility of a Bodyguard, and the fact last wills destroy Tailors, suiting a non-mafia at this point doesn't seem smart. It could just as easily be a lie as it could have been a drug deal.

Also, what is there at all to gain by drugging a suit? Make us think they have a Tailor? I don't see a smart Mafia doing that.

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

Also. Suits come after death so they cant suit and death same night.

And that just disproves the Witch theory I had. Considering there is a distinct possibility of a Bodyguard, and the fact last wills destroy Tailors, suiting a non-mafia at this point doesn't seem smart. It could just as easily be a lie as it could have been a drug deal.

Also, what is there at all to gain by drugging a suit? Make us think they have a Tailor? I don't see a smart Mafia doing that.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464431]Meh, i think that we might be making the classic mistake of pressuring active people while ignoring some of the lurkers. I'll look this over more when I'm actually home

More at 6[/QUOTE]

And here we go again.

Tiger, who was relatively active in my book, was lynched, and guess what he was? Not just the Mafia Architect, but the Godfather.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

Meh, i think that we might be making the classic mistake of pressuring active people while ignoring some of the lurkers. I'll look this over more when I'm actually home

More at 6

And here we go again.

Tiger, who was relatively active in my book, was lynched, and guess what he was? Not just the Mafia Architect, but the Godfather.

[QUOTE=MFM Narwhal;464432]Also. Suits come after death so they cant suit and death same night.[/QUOTE]

Even so, the post he made that I quoted screams scum to me.

Originally Posted by MFM Narwhal

Also. Suits come after death so they cant suit and death same night.

Even so, the post he made that I quoted screams scum to me.

Beaver is either a Witch or a Jester. I Can't see him being any other Neutral from his actions.

Beaver is either a Witch or a Jester. I Can't see him being any other Neutral from his actions.

[QUOTE=MFM Snake;464418]Well, I guess you guys will know the suit is real if I flip some random shit like one of the neutrals - Doesn't really matter anyway because last wills[/QUOTE]

This set off massive alarms to me.

He is trying to make us think that when he comes up as the Joker/Riddler that he was actually Town and we should still be afraid of that specific role, yet although I don't see the Joker benefitting nearly as much, the Riddler would due to the fact that the Town might still be afraid to claim.

Also, he was rather fast to say he knew Gorilla was probably a Citizen. I know I did too, but from MY POV as a Townie he was rather scummy, yet then I didn't give it a second guess.

His tailor claim is BS. Why would the Mafia EVER randomly hand out a suit? I see 0 gain from it. No one else currently living (unless they're Mafia and are hiding it) has received a suit. And we know that Narwhal was attacked last night. I don't see why they wouldn't attack someone the same night they give them the suit.

I mean sure, the Mafia might have tried to kill him last night but Beaver and his witchiness caused them to hit Narwhal, but it doesn't add up that well to me.

Sorry Snake, I really thought you were Town until this post.

Originally Posted by MFM Snake

Well, I guess you guys will know the suit is real if I flip some random shit like one of the neutrals - Doesn't really matter anyway because last wills

This set off massive alarms to me.

He is trying to make us think that when he comes up as the Joker/Riddler that he was actually Town and we should still be afraid of that specific role, yet although I don't see the Joker benefitting nearly as much, the Riddler would due to the fact that the Town might still be afraid to claim.

Also, he was rather fast to say he knew Gorilla was probably a Citizen. I know I did too, but from MY POV as a Townie he was rather scummy, yet then I didn't give it a second guess.

His tailor claim is BS. Why would the Mafia EVER randomly hand out a suit? I see 0 gain from it. No one else currently living (unless they're Mafia and are hiding it) has received a suit. And we know that Narwhal was attacked last night. I don't see why they wouldn't attack someone the same night they give them the suit.

I mean sure, the Mafia might have tried to kill him last night but Beaver and his witchiness caused them to hit Narwhal, but it doesn't add up that well to me.

Sorry Snake, I really thought you were Town until this post.

[vote]MFM Frog[/vote]

Alright, I'll eat my words and say I was wrong about you Cat, you aren't the Joker.

Anyways, I see Llama as the Joker, Frog and either Rabbit/Dolphin as Mafia (They aren't on the same team) Beaver as the Witch, and I am honestly thinking Snake is the Riddler. In the event Moose wasn't Mafia I will do a bit more digging.

Note, due to the potential difficulty of figuring out, Llama and Snake might be swapped.

More on Snake in a minute.

-vote MFM Frog

Alright, I'll eat my words and say I was wrong about you Cat, you aren't the Joker.

Anyways, I see Llama as the Joker, Frog and either Rabbit/Dolphin as Mafia (They aren't on the same team) Beaver as the Witch, and I am honestly thinking Snake is the Riddler. In the event Moose wasn't Mafia I will do a bit more digging.

Note, due to the potential difficulty of figuring out, Llama and Snake might be swapped.

More on Snake in a minute.

[QUOTE=MFM Llama;464378]I was just correcting Dolphin dude...[/QUOTE]

No excuses.

Originally Posted by MFM Llama

I was just correcting Dolphin dude...

No excuses.

[QUOTE=MFM Llama;464376]Also a little note, I hammered Tiger.[/QUOTE]

No need to say shit. I could say the same thing because I started the train on him and I don't see a Mafia doing that.

Honestly, posting like that is scummy.

Originally Posted by MFM Llama

Also a little note, I hammered Tiger.

No need to say shit. I could say the same thing because I started the train on him and I don't see a Mafia doing that.

Honestly, posting like that is scummy.

[QUOTE=MFM Dolphin;464372]No reason to vote your teammate when Mayor hadn't voted there, so Cat is least likely clear from post #904, but still useful to look at it[/QUOTE]

So that one result is the only thing you've gotten this entire game?

Originally Posted by MFM Dolphin

No reason to vote your teammate when Mayor hadn't voted there, so Cat is least likely clear from post #904, but still useful to look at it

So that one result is the only thing you've gotten this entire game?

Dolphin, Frog, and Potentially Armadillo (If Moose was Tailored to be a Citizen and was Mafia).

Find it odd that Dolphin was supposedly replaced twice while Elephant wasn't even once?

Dolphin, Frog, and Potentially Armadillo (If Moose was Tailored to be a Citizen and was Mafia).

Find it odd that Dolphin was supposedly replaced twice while Elephant wasn't even once?