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I think feedback being the same would add an interesting mechanic in a hidden setup :)

I also like Electrocutioner, but I'm biased :p

I think feedback being the same would add an interesting mechanic in a hidden setup

I also like Electrocutioner, but I'm biased

[QUOTE=Voss;674993]haven't decided on whether people's actions should go through. Which would be better for Neutral Killer version? obviously in a role-blocking version, their actions wouldn't go through.[/QUOTE]

Might be easier just to make their action not go through.
I think a Neutral Killer would benefit from the actions going through (and this role does need a buff to be a true Neutral Killing), but it also has the potential to backfire on the EM.

It's just really hard to balance a setup with this role, because it could literally have 0 KPN lol.

Originally Posted by Voss

haven't decided on whether people's actions should go through. Which would be better for Neutral Killer version? obviously in a role-blocking version, their actions wouldn't go through.

Might be easier just to make their action not go through.
I think a Neutral Killer would benefit from the actions going through (and this role does need a buff to be a true Neutral Killing), but it also has the potential to backfire on the EM.

It's just really hard to balance a setup with this role, because it could literally have 0 KPN lol.

[QUOTE=Voss;674987]i think what would be better is if these were two separate roles, since they really are different enough. I like the role-block mechanism too. I could even leave the same feedback for extra 'fuckings'[/QUOTE]

Yea they are entirely different dynamics, that's for sure.
I also think it would be impossible to make this have a "roleblocker" option if you're letting everyone's actions go through when they die lol.

Originally Posted by Voss

i think what would be better is if these were two separate roles, since they really are different enough. I like the role-block mechanism too. I could even leave the same feedback for extra 'fuckings'

Yea they are entirely different dynamics, that's for sure.
I also think it would be impossible to make this have a "roleblocker" option if you're letting everyone's actions go through when they die lol.

[QUOTE=Voss;674979]i'd like to leave them healable, but a couple of other cases came up.

To buff it up, should charged targets never lose their charge, like if they're healed?

What about this order of operation. A, B and C are charged, and their actions don't happen simultaneously, like kills do. A visits B. A and B die. But B was supposed to visit C. Would C also die? 'Charged people completing their action' would go against this.[/QUOTE]

Yea, they definitely should be able to be healed.
And I think that after a Charged Player targets another Charged Player, they both get attacked and lose their charge.

Can you put EM kills at the end of the OoO? That way, all roles can interact before it calculates. Because IMO, A, B & C should die in that scenario lol.

Originally Posted by Voss

i'd like to leave them healable, but a couple of other cases came up.

To buff it up, should charged targets never lose their charge, like if they're healed?

What about this order of operation. A, B and C are charged, and their actions don't happen simultaneously, like kills do. A visits B. A and B die. But B was supposed to visit C. Would C also die? 'Charged people completing their action' would go against this.

Yea, they definitely should be able to be healed.
And I think that after a Charged Player targets another Charged Player, they both get attacked and lose their charge.

Can you put EM kills at the end of the OoO? That way, all roles can interact before it calculates. Because IMO, A, B & C should die in that scenario lol.

Actually, EM in a fast paced game might be viable.. lol Esp if it's TPR heavy game lol

Actually, EM in a fast paced game might be viable.. lol Esp if it's TPR heavy game lol

I almost like the idea that if 1 person targets another charged person, they both get role blocked. This makes it a good deterrent role imo. Charged Sheriff can't check Charged Mafia. Charged Doctor cant heal Charged team mates.
It would be a strong neutral evil role in a game. But I think the including it as your neutral killing role gives town too large of an advantage.

But to buff him, you could make it so he can charge 2 people n1. He could charge a person a second time and kill him. I'm not sure what else.

I almost like the idea that if 1 person targets another charged person, they both get role blocked. This makes it a good deterrent role imo. Charged Sheriff can't check Charged Mafia. Charged Doctor cant heal Charged team mates.
It would be a strong neutral evil role in a game. But I think the including it as your neutral killing role gives town too large of an advantage.

But to buff him, you could make it so he can charge 2 people n1. He could charge a person a second time and kill him. I'm not sure what else.

[QUOTE=Voss;674962]Currently implementing ElectroManiac

-Should charged people complete their action when they visit? I'm deciding to implement this by having the person die when they complete their visit, and not during the regular 'kill phase'
-Should Electromaniac be immune to being charged by other EMs?
-Should EMs start off being charged?
-How powerful are EMs in comparison to SK, Arson, MM, and Poisoner?[/QUOTE]

1) I think they should complete their action.
2) Doesn't matter, probably should be tho.
3) This could be an option maybe? Does help their KPN, but can also weaken them.
4) EMs are extremely weak in comparison to actual killer. EM to me seems more like an evil role that ends up killing. The point of the role is more like a deterrent to TPRs.

Originally Posted by Voss

Currently implementing ElectroManiac

-Should charged people complete their action when they visit? I'm deciding to implement this by having the person die when they complete their visit, and not during the regular 'kill phase'
-Should Electromaniac be immune to being charged by other EMs?
-Should EMs start off being charged?
-How powerful are EMs in comparison to SK, Arson, MM, and Poisoner?

1) I think they should complete their action.
2) Doesn't matter, probably should be tho.
3) This could be an option maybe? Does help their KPN, but can also weaken them.
4) EMs are extremely weak in comparison to actual killer. EM to me seems more like an evil role that ends up killing. The point of the role is more like a deterrent to TPRs.