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    ►►Fuzz: 1-S2-1-12080148◄◄

    Fuzz: 1-S2-1-12080148
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    {Watch List} ►►PandaCA: 1-S2-1-2098259◄◄

    Account Name: PandaCA
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-2098259
    In-Game Name: Mario the Small

    Crimes Committed:

    Your Account Name: Fuzz
    Summary: The player known as "PandaCA" revealed as Mayor and random lynched me based on personal reasons entirely unrelated to the developments of the game, thereby crippling Town's ability to achieve victory.

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    {Watch List} ►►Bakemyday: 1-S2-1-5875305◄◄

    Account Name: Bakemyday
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-5875305
    In-Game Name: The Innocent Killer

    Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing

    Your Account Name: Fuzz
    Summary: In the attached game replay, I was Bodyguard and Bakemyday was Jailor. Bakemyday jailed Player 1 on Night 1 and executed him with no real investigation of what role he was supposed to be (he turned out to be an Investigator) Later on, when it became clear that it was possible there were two Jailors in the game (There were 2 Jailors, and an Interrogator) I tried to direct Town to not lynch anybody as two Jailors have more power to get rid of evils than random lynching based on arbitrary "abstaining" evidence, or even guilts. Eventually, Day 2 ended, however The Innocent Killer then jailed me and executed me after I claimed Bodyguard to him, and if anything, made it fairly obvious that I was attempting to aid Jailors in their jailing efforts by not supporting any lynching. Later, in death chat, The Innocent Killer then claimed that he was well within his rights to kill Player 1, as he didn't claim a role (which is true) but this does not compute into executing a player, because there are a number of valid reasons why somebody won't claim a role (AFK, Interrogator possibility, gauging the behaviour of the captor.) Bakemyday did not play the game with good faith, blamed Player 1 for Town's loss, claiming that the moment Player 1 did not claim a role and "forced" his hand, the game was over, which is patently false. Bakemyday may not have been the only factor in Town's loss that game, but was definitely a significant one.
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  4. {Ban List} ►►Re: MoonShine: 1-S2-1-7540121◄◄

    Thanks for the swift response and action, yeah I'm unsure if MoonShine is really a game-thrower, rather he just most likely just engaged in a poor strategy, though it seemed very counter-intuitive to claim that he is the Veteran who killed Player 2 when Player 2 did not even bother to write a last will, rendering both Veterans identities as yet unknown. Evils could've potentially visited both players, however MoonShine and GorTeck's behaviour caused Player 3 to reveal his role as a Veteran as well. So not only are both actual Veterans revealing themselves, but GorTeck is also making false claims and probably skyping to determine 15's NI.
  5. {Ban List} ►►MoonShine: 1-S2-1-7540121◄◄

    Account Name: MoonShine
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-7540121
    In-Game Name: Town Cock

    Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing

    Your Account Name: Fuzz
    Summary: During a game of Mafia, the player known as "MoonShine" (player 7 in-game) decided to announce that he is Veteran, and that he was the particular Veteran who killed player 2. MoonShine did in fact turn out to be the role of Veteran, however it was later discovered that he had lied about being the Veteran who killed player 2, the actual Veteran who killed him being player 3. MoonShine's announcement along with a conflicting claim from player 4 caused a large amount of confusion and hampered the ability of town players to effectively recognise evils, having to deal with two town players who made false claims. Furthermore, by claiming that he is a Veteran, player 7 effectively warned evils to not visit him, and thus the ensuing impotency in regard to his role. Evils will not visit a self-proclaimed Veteran. This appears to be a clear example of game-throwing, however whether due to inexperience or carelessness, it cannot be determined.
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    Account Name: GorTeck
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-4963202
    In-Game Name: A Horny Virgin.

    Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing

    Your Account Name: Fuzz
    Summary: While playing a game of Mafia, the player known as GorTeck (player 4) chose to conflict the player 7 (who also game-threw) by claiming that he was a Veteran. Further into the game, GorTeck makes an unfounded claim that he can determine that player 15 is NI, and attempts to rally town to lynch the player. Player 15 did end up being Godfather, however GorTeck's actual role of Mayor clearly demonstrates that he could have no legal way of knowing that 15 is night immune, and furthermore, by sowing chaos in the town's judgement during the game by claiming Veteran, GorTeck severely hampered town's ability to recognise evils effectively, hence he played against his role.
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    {Watch List} ►►ANon: 1-S2-1-9725877◄◄

    Account Name: ANon
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-9725877
    In-Game Name: selenian

    Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing

    Your Account Name: Fuzz
    Summary: As this Mafia game began and right after roles were chosen for players, the username known as "ANon" immediately left the game. This clearly appears to be role-quitting.
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  8. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Free will

    Thread Author:Helz

    Post Author:Da FuZzMeIsTeR

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    If I understand you correctly, you regard logical deduction itself as something people must have faith in to acknowledge. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I nevertheless find the point of view fascinating.

    I would personally regard knowledge based on logical deduction as something that does not require faith. If faith is classed as statements we reasonlessly believe in, it feels kind of wrong to class "the belief in reason" as something one reasonlessly has faith in. Reason is not something that requires faith - in fact, you needed the notion of reason to define faith in the first place, which suggests reason exists above faith. Reasoning is a process you partake in innately. You have to choose to have faith in things, but reason occurs to you naturally.
    Logical, step-by-step deduction is indeed something that I believe requires faith to believe in, and this is more easily highlighted in the way that as one conclusion is logically deducted from available data, as new, ground-breaking information potentially comes in, the false conclusion is discarded and loses that logical quality which made it worthy of faith or belief, and a new deduction begins, with a new paradigm then adopted.

    faith
    To believe; credit.
    n. The assent of the mind to the truth of a proposition or statement for which there is not complete evidence; belief in general.
    n. Specifically Firm belief based upon confidence in the authority and veracity of another, rather than upon one's own knowledge, reason, or judgment; earnest and trustful confidence: as, to have faith in the testimony of a witness; to have faith in a friend.

    I also do not believe faith is accurately defined as something that is accepted without reason, or at the very least I am not using it in such a way, I'm saying that reason requires faith, because faith is required to adopt a certain line of reasoning, although reason can conceptually judge the nuances of what exactly faith is in strictly definitive terms, though it is a reflection of the actual substance or quality of faith. Faith is not its definition according to the accepted dogma regarding diction, rather the accepted dogma is a literary reflection of the ethereal quality that is faith, diction is a way to conceptually mirror it in words to make it easier for metacognition to comprehend.

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Put another way, you don't have the "free will" to accept or reject reasoning itself. You may use fallacious reasoning or reject a perfectly reasoned argument, but reason itself is something you innately understand to be true, even if you claim otherwise.
    I disagree, you can reject reasoning itself, you can accept a temporally sound line of reasoning internally and choose to do the exact opposite of what reason should dictate you do next externally, what is the internal relevance of reason if it is not drawn from and tried in the external world? If it is never expressed, from theory to action, can the line of reasoning be said to have ever existed? Furthermore, do infants exercise reason? Did reason come first for infants, or did trust/faith come first? If infants can be said to have no reasoning capabilities, does this mean from this line of argumentation, they are non-persons? Reasoning can be rejected I think, what can't be actively rejected whilst you're still alive however is cognition, which can only be validated by faith it is occurring, reason does not need to be employed to validate consciousness, rather reason is employed by human consciousness that is capable of it in varying magnitudes or depths to more clearly comprehend intuition/imagination, physical existence, and subsequent natural law. However, faith is required to believe that you have a consciousness or cognitive experience.
  9. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Free will

    Thread Author:Helz

    Post Author:Da FuZzMeIsTeR

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    This post is in reply to Marshmallow Marshall:

    Sorry that it has taken me this long to make a reply, I have not really had convenient opportunity to do so, and I've been considering your post as well. Although I do not believe you are directly addressing me, I believe there is something more I can add that would clarify further.

    Rather than faith and knowledge being opposites, I am convinced that faith precedes cognitive experience, and cognitive experience precedes sensory experience, and sensory experience precedes knowledge.

    Faith>Cognition>Senses>Knowledge

    While what is termed as thinking is a combination of cognition utilising reason (a particular mode of cognitive experience) and analysing the sensory world to formulate what would be considered knowledge.

    I see it this way not because I believe the physical world to be an illusion, or cognitive experience to be a solipsistic exercise, but rather because it is my choice to believe or have faith that it is real. The aspect of existence that could be mistakenly be judged as solipsistic is the plausible deniability due to a fallible physical shell that encases the human soul, which includes the body, brain, all biochemical cognitive and sensory experience.

    No amount or extent of physical evidence can actually confirm that cognitive or sensory phenomena is real, it is an infinitely far-reaching existential choice to trust in existence, trust which is faith, or to actively distrust it, and thereby metaphysically destabilise your own existence, which is an existential contradiction, a bottomless pit of sorts, where by denying existence, you cancel your own assertions out of the picture. The meaning of the seemingly epic prose and drama of the Bible is to highlight the gravity of the result of sin, which is an existential war on life, life itself being the eternal enemy of death. I feel I have more to say on the matter, but my insights are not coming as readily as I would hope, likely due to the disharmony with God's mission in my own life, I believe the heights of my understanding were when I had my greatest, world-rejecting faith, when I was truly losing my mind in an attempt to win God, and perhaps God to win me.
  10. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:my first thread

    Thread Author:naz

    Post Author:Da FuZzMeIsTeR

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    Just keep opening tabs to find out, boldly go where no man has gone before
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    ►►Re: How many players are actually from Aus here?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Dang 3 queenslanders. Let's roll south into the latte sipping state, yelling 1-0 while we pass through new south wales, and king hit this fuuton fella

    1-0 in regards to State of Origin I suppose? Classic stitch-up
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    Just a lucky guess I suppose ;) Townsville here
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    1. I am Australian
    2. I am not surprised Fuuton is from Melbourne
    3. Australia IS a fkn continent, Oceania Bullshitania, just a locale or region really, those islands above Australia are separated by water, a large landmass like Australia is considered a continent.
  15. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Free will

    Thread Author:Helz

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    'to have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God'
    Soren Kierkegaard


    Helz said:
    " With these in mind God created the world with the ability to change anything and knowing everything to include seeing through time. This justifys the position that everything that happens is in line with Gods purpose. If these premises are accepted anyone believing them has to accept that they are in the subset of determinism called fatalism. When you ask 'Why did my friend die' you can answer it with 'Its part of Gods plan' and justify it with the excuse that 'We can not know Gods will.'

    But

    How can free will exist under these circumstances? If we have an all powerful and all knowing creator he knew every decision we would make the second he created the universe as he did. Further- he knew how changing 1 molecule of the world at the point of creation would change an individuals actions because he could see through time. "

    I pretty much agree with what this guy said,
    yzb25 said:
    "That said, I don't think this situation implies there's no free will. Sure, an omniscient pseudo-omnipotent being determines all your actions, but that doesn't mean you're not making choices. If someone makes an ad that makes you buy a product, we don't say the person who made the ad made the decision to buy the product on your behalf, even if he ultimately determined whether you bought the product. He just manipulated your actions. "

    There has to be physicality and permanence to the universe, as in laws of physics, laws of biology and spiritual/religious/natural law(morals and ethics-wise) for there to be any defined physical location, physical biological form and functions or purposes, respectively. If there are no "boundaries" like these, then there is no place for any actual consequence, ie. everything remains conceptual and not defined or tried. If there are no consequences, then it cannot be said that there was ever a prior sequence, you catch my drift?
    Most cars can only fit two people in the front seat as par their function, maybe four people if you squeezed them all in uncomfortably together in the front, but simply because you can't fit five, six etc., doesn't mean that you lack free will simply because you are not capable of doing this physically impossible action, as this poster seemingly suggested:

    aamirus said
    " If god or anything is all powerful he/they can make an immovable rock. If god or anything is all powerful he/they can move any rock. Contradiction = nothing can be “all powerful”. "


    If anything, the boundaries of a car have now opened new doors (HEH) on the possibilities of exercising free will, with the knowledge in hand to construct cars, humans can now choose to enter any car (ideally with the necessary expertise in how to operate it), and use it to move at speeds that were "impossible" before this level of understanding. God cannot create a rock so heavy that even He cannot lift it, but that is because God's unlimited power can only be of use to the effect of possible things. Possible things that are instituted by the existential laws that He has designed, God's power is unlimited, so it is impossible for Him to create a rock that even He cannot lift, He is the author of all Creation, all of Creation's properties and laws are instituted by Him and bend to His will. It's not that God or the quality of "All-Powerful" that is contradictory, there are just simply some concepts that are defined by being conceptually and realistically separated from other concepts, such as a square and a triangle, a square cannot be made up of 3 sides, nor can a triangle be made up of 4 sides, there are no 2-sided triangles or 5-sided squares. If concepts were not individuated by the expression of their realistic nature, they would be indiscernible from the background of nothingness or oblivion, white noise.

    This is pretty much the answer to your question, from here on, I will further elucidate.


    'All the shrewdness of 'man' seeks one thing: to be able to live without responsibility.'
    Soren Kierkegaard


    Drawing from what I would hope are accurate personal insights, Man's fallen nature as according to Christian theology is exactly this subject that you have brought up, ie. Fallen Man believes that he is All-Powerful or Godlike when he has the ability to escape the consequences of his actions and exercise lawlessness instead, allowing him to do things that even God cannot do, such as lie or deny himself, as God is not the Father of wickedness, Satan is.
    This juvenile existential perspective allows Fallen Man to feel like he is Godlike, or can become God, or surpass God, and he uses human establishments to further achieve this end, at the behest of Satan and his cohorts, which I suspect is also known as the mystery of iniquity (Satan/Cohorts, Man, Woman) which is if you haven't picked it up yet, an unholy trinity. Satan used the Woman in the Garden of Eden to give birth to an inverted reality where the possibilities of Creation not performing their function or their nature can "exist" (though in reality they do not actually exist), ie. a world where falsehoods reign and provide great power to those who use them. Fallen Man (ie. every human being in existence) is currently trapped in this world of our own making, you may not have personally been Adam or Eve at the time of the corruption of the world through Eve eating of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but they remain our progenitors, and as such we share their same nature, their same disposition. Pre-Fall Man was likely incredibly intelligent, spiritually aware and even generally more physically adept/genetically stable, but Man has been degrading from that time up until the present day, the entire line or body of Fallen Man having aged over the ages in this dynamic reality where concepts and realistic nature are capable of being divorced from one another, resulting in cognitive disharmony which naturally results in physical chaos.


    But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
    Proverbs 8:36


    Although Fallen Man is under the impression derived from history that he is improving, evolving, ie. A Rising Beast in the vein of Friedrich Nietzsche, Man is in fact dying as a collective consciousness, getting more frail and closer to death because of the application of concepts in a wicked way (which I find conveniently similar to the word 'wick' and I imagine has roots within it) as opposed to the righteous way (right use) because Man and Woman are by default divorced from God when born from a Woman in this world, and prone to conceptual or spiritual confusion, and from there, physical evil, without holy intervention. Satan's promise in the Garden of Eden was that if Eve were to eat the Fruit, Man and Woman would become as Gods, knowing both Good and Evil, and the Fallen World was the result of that promise. This may sound like a whole bunch of hogwash to you at first glance, but think about it, what has Man done to the Earth except harm it, producing technological advancements that on their face are seemingly benign and can be used for benevolent purpose, and yet have been used to inflict incalculable horror, death and destruction to its residents, either overt or subtle, to the point where there are disasters and problems that humans cannot even begin to comprehend or solve, whether environmentally, psychologically, genetically or economically, the current age world is heading towards a frightfully apocalyptic conclusion that most people are not even mentally aware of, let alone addressing.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
    Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
    Psalms 23:4-6


    Since the days of the Garden of Eden, Man (and Woman) have trusted in their own power to save themselves from the shadow of death, they chose to put their faith in the promise of the Serpent rather than in the promise of God, and have reaped the recompense.

    yzb25 said:
    I'd argue I as an atheist face a stronger dilemma. Am I truly making decisions? Who is even "I" in the first place? Ultimately, due to the absence of a soul, surely"I" am just a collection of neurological calculations that determine my next decision, and my emotions are just electrical impulses. When I do something, where is the "me" who decides to do that thing? Ultimately, some electrical impulses made a calculation based on predetermined factors, then acted. They did not choose to do anything. However, I am perceiving some "self" to do a thing, regardless. Is that perception just an illusion? There is no free will if you're essentially a complicated string of fleshy if statements.


    The dilemma that yzb25 describes is the dilemma that literally all of Mankind suffers from, it is the existential cognitive dissonance that is experienced from reaching for an understanding of why we are here, what are we, where are we going? We can grasp concepts like God, souls, angels, divinity, immortality, holiness and righteousness, but because of our spiritual divorce or separation from God, we have no objective truth, we can only initially perceive everything from a relative point of view built upon personal experience, and can get trapped in our own perception of reality, becoming a sort of faux god unto ourselves. Why is it that such concepts exist, if there appears to be no physicality defining or confirming them? When we think of a triangle as a concept, it can be fleshed out, and has been fleshed out, to great practical use in architecture and engineering and all others sorts of purposes throughout the ages, yet when we think of the concept of God, we have no physical comparison, we have no way to construct a "god" and the defining attributes of what God actually is are left up to personal interpretation seemingly. As a result, there are myriad beliefs of how the world came to be, and atheists in particular believe that God, souls, angels, divinity, immortality, holiness and righteousness are conceptual phantoms, not actually possible or true, but just fairy tales, schizophrenic ramblings, elusive ideas that gave primitive people who lived in humble conditions a purpose to live and reason for why they are where they are. Whether they view religiosity as detrimental or potentially benign, these transcendental concepts pale in comparison to the competing evolution interpretation taught by centres of education across the world, and most, atheist, religious and even so-called Christians alike gobble it all up, without considering one thing:
    Faith
    'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.'
    John 1:1-5


    Humans have faith that they are living, humans have faith that their brain is experiencing reality accurately, humans have faith that their experiences of the world confirm all of this and so much more, because all human physical experience is actually taking place within the mind itself, not the outside world. A worldview is adopted and the information received from it can only be used to derive certain judgements or conclusions because of faith. It's all faith baby. Faith in intellectuals, faith in fossil records, faith in governmental authorities. A vacuum cleaner might be a very visceral and real appliance to one mind because of experience and understanding of the concept, but if you cannot grasp the concept, the physical object is not actually real to you, it is white noise, useless. If you can't understand a language, the words spoken to you mean nothing. Evolution teaches that physical life begat concepts through the development of intelligent life comprehending them, but in reality, conceptual movements begat the physical world, the mind of God begat all of Creation, even the Creation that would fancy itself a competitor deity.

    Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
    Luke 23:34


    What I believe to actually be going on in this existence of ours, is that we as human beings throughout generally accepted recorded history, both ancient and modern, and in the mythic period, have been trying to become like God due to the deception of Satan, the Enemy or the Accuser. However, due to Creation (Man) trying to usurp the role of Creator in a universe defined by Him (which is impossible), we are actually losing our identity, self-destructing metaphysically. This is where my example of the design of the car from way earlier ties in, we are trying to achieve the impossible, we are trying to fit 10 people into a 2 seater car, we are trying to fly off a mountain when we have no wings, we are trying to become Creator when we are the Creation. Our souls which are prone to corruption without the Holy Spirit guiding our lives and development, are killing themselves from spiritual/conceptual confusion, and this has direct impact on our actions in reality. Although it seems that we are making the world ever more safe, more secure, more comfortable, more healthy, more knowledgeable, more polite, more emotionally understanding, more politically correct, more civilised, we are actually only succeeding in warding off the inevitable downfall of a decadent world-spanning culture and socio-political system. The more Man as a collective would-be god strains against the boundaries of existence, the more we hate that within our own souls which is capable of aligning with God and the divine, becoming divorced not just from God but from sound conceptualism itself, forming a doomed hybrid of concept and reality which is incapable of sustaining. This is the goal of the Synagogue of Satan, Illuminati, Freemason, Rockefeller, Rothschilds, all those elite evil overlord types, groups, establishments, agencies and thinktanks of the world who are in league with Satan and probably sold their souls to him. I could go on further with my theories on why they've allied themselves with what should be understood as pure evil, but that's a subject for another time.

    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
    Genesis 3:22-24

    I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
    John 10:11

    And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
    1st John 2:17

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
    John 3:16-19


    Man and Woman brought sin into the world, and thus brought about their own demise in their temptation and lust for Godhood. The moral law of God is clear, to offend against the provider of all life is to deny your own life, and so from this mythic age until now, the "Old Man" has suffered from this original sin which brought about their physical mortality and spiritual damnation. Jesus Christ was sent into the world in due time for the remission of sins, so that the "Old Man", the collective consciousness of the Fallen Man, Adam, might be redeemed and saved by God, in the body of the New Man, in the Body of Christ. When one accepts Jesus Christ as their redeemer, saviour and king, He gives to them the guidance of the Holy Spirit to help them change their life and ways, pick up their cross and follow Him to salvation.

    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
    1st Corinthians 1:18
  16. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:QUESTION about griefing

    Thread Author:Fuuton

    Post Author:Da FuZzMeIsTeR

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    Lol, I just made an account on this site to find out if Fuuton is serious, and yep, here he is. Okay, so I'm the cunt he's talking about, and yes, I was going to kill him N1 as a member of the Triad if I could recognise him, but funnily enough, when I asked in Triad chat which player they think is Fuuton, a player with the name "Felicia" said that they were in fact Fuuton, and then I laughed about it, and decided to hit another player with the name of "Sarah" instead. As you can see from that particular interaction, I had no true ill will towards Fuuton to the point where I would hound him in Mafia games, only in a playful manner, I mean, I have to try to kill somebody N1, right? It is inconsequential if I on one occasion I decide to target Fuuton in that particular game, I'm allowed to target whatever non-Mafia player I so desire as Mafia. If "Sarah" actually happened to be a Veteran, then this would never have gone any further than that game. But no, "Sarah" was not a Veteran as it turned out, and died, and I took his place within the purview of my role as Disguiser. Later on in that game, the Town begin to suspect that there is a Disguiser and even aim those suspicions at me, and I am put up on trial to give my account. I succeed in tricking town into believing that I am a Sheriff, and it seems like all is well. Then right after I was inno'd, Fuuton decides to pause and unpause the game 3 times, which I can only guess was an attempt to breach the barrier of game "death" and communicate with Town that the new "Sarah" is actually me, the Disguiser. Thankfully, nobody seemed to give these antics any gainway, and we ended up winning that game in the end IIRC. Later on, I get a few private messages from Fuuton, where he threatens to have me banned because he believes that I am griefing him by specifically targeting him in game. He revealed to me in those private messages that he was in fact the player "Sarah."
    So let me get this straight for you all:
    A:I thought Fuuton was "Felicia", a fellow Mafia.
    B:I thought "Sarah" was another player, a player who proved problematic in another game where I was Triad and I decided to take him out early to make sure he could not be of any use to Town in that particular session.
    C:When I disguised myself as "Sarah," Fuuton's player name for that session, he attempted to break the game rules by communicating with Town as a dead player by pausing the game after I was inno'd, if anybody else who was Town in that game knew that Fuuton was "Sarah," then they just got a huge hint that I was not who I was saying I was.
    D:This is against the spirit of the game, and is breaking the rules, the irony being the very thinghe is trying to claim that I was doing.

    Fuuton is trying to preemptively get me in trouble with SC2Mafia out of revenge for some perceived slight that he took before the game began, and he is mixing his encounters with other players with our own interactions, and claimed he had "connections enough" to get me banned. Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?
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