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[QUOTE=Taco Bell;788736]Dominoes I bet you will not hammer lol[/QUOTE]

unvote. now.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

Dominoes I bet you will not hammer lol

unvote. now.

[QUOTE=KFC;788729]My only issue with lynching Popeyes is that then I don't know for sure that we either took out a faction or have control over one's kill...

But, I'm still willing to trust BK/Arbys despite their argumentativeness. Have JitB witch Subway onto herself, I'll shoot Dominos, and he can operator me with TB onto BK/Arbys to prove himself and kill scum?

I guess the plan still works. Fuck it, let's go. [vote]Popeyes[/vote]

I'm getting tired of him being alive anyway.[/QUOTE]


wtf. Are you trying to end day early?

Originally Posted by KFC

My only issue with lynching Popeyes is that then I don't know for sure that we either took out a faction or have control over one's kill...

But, I'm still willing to trust BK/Arbys despite their argumentativeness. Have JitB witch Subway onto herself, I'll shoot Dominos, and he can operator me with TB onto BK/Arbys to prove himself and kill scum?

I guess the plan still works. Fuck it, let's go.

-vote Popeyes

I'm getting tired of him being alive anyway.

wtf. Are you trying to end day early?

[QUOTE=Arbys;788701]Legends say Jack in the Box is still showering till this day.[/QUOTE]

A tale as old as time

Originally Posted by Arbys

Legends say Jack in the Box is still showering till this day.

A tale as old as time

Actually, thinking more about it- if we can't possibly win if the masons betray us, then maybe we should just lynch Popeyes. If we confirm them as town, we know we can count on Jack in the Box and can still win, if we confirm them as scum, I can kick back and stop stressing so much about this game because we lose. lol

Not switching my vote yet, though. Don't want to end day early and still want Jack in the Box to weigh in.

Actually, thinking more about it- if we can't possibly win if the masons betray us, then maybe we should just lynch Popeyes. If we confirm them as town, we know we can count on Jack in the Box and can still win, if we confirm them as scum, I can kick back and stop stressing so much about this game because we lose. lol

Not switching my vote yet, though. Don't want to end day early and still want Jack in the Box to weigh in.

:facepalm:

[QUOTE=KFC;788437]Thank God that comes out. Yeah, Subway has no leg to stand on.
Subway’s the last purple killer, Popeyes and Domino (or Arbys/BK, in the world’s biggest stretch) are the pink team. GG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KFC;788671]He would be the only purple left at that point. If he even can roleblock me, he would have to give up the night kill to do it, and then NO ONE dies. That's always a win for Town. I'm not seeing how this plan doesn't work for you, if you're town.
[/QUOTE]

So now you think Dominos is purple? And if he is, how do you know he'd be the only one left? And even if both of those things are true, wouldn't it STILL be better to lynch Dominos so as to remove the scum ability to roleblock?

[QUOTE=KFC;788672]Let me break this down for you a little more clearly: From your perspective, there's only two possibilities for who the scum are.

1. [COLOR="#800080"]Subway[/COLOR], [COLOR="#800080"]Dominos[/COLOR], and [COLOR="#EE82EE"]Popeyes[/COLOR]. Here, if we lynch Subway, Dominos is the only killer left, and if he roleblocks, he gives up a night kill. Meanwhile, JitB can control Popeyes' kill.

2. [COLOR="#800080"]Subway[/COLOR], [COLOR="#EE82EE"]Dominos[/COLOR], and [COLOR="#EE82EE"]Popeyes[/COLOR]. Here, if we lynch Subway, the purple faction is gone altogether, so we're down to one night kill straight up. Dominos can choose to roleblock me, but then the pink night kill is controlled by JitB, and again, no scum night kills.

From your perspective, it looks like the "Lynch Subway" option can only end in "no night kills" if I get roleblocked. This is good for Town, yes?[/QUOTE]

From my perspective there are a million possibilities for who the scum are. Anyone who isn't me or Arby's is a suspect. My leading theory is the Subway/Dominos team are purple, but it could be Dominos and someone else. All I know for certain is that it's Dominos, which is why I want to lynch him.

Here's my plan:

We lynch dominos today, thereby eliminating any chance of a roleblock for tonight. KFC then uses his gun to shoot Subway tonight, while Jack in the Box witches Popeyes onto Subway. If everyone FOLLOWS THE FUCKING PLAN THIS TIME, this will result in: Subway dies. If Popeyes is scum, Subway's death message at the start of D5 will include whatever color the blacksmith gun is + Popeye's faction color (presumably pink, but who knows). So if the kill includes pink or purple we'll know Popeyes is scum and can safely lynch him. If it's only a single color, then we know that Popeyes is not a killer.

Of course, if Popeyes is innocent that means the "masons" aren't really masons and will betray us and screw up the plan (again), but I'm not sure we can really afford to account for that, though I'm open to suggestions.

Originally Posted by KFC

Thank God that comes out. Yeah, Subway has no leg to stand on.
Subway’s the last purple killer, Popeyes and Domino (or Arbys/BK, in the world’s biggest stretch) are the pink team. GG.

Originally Posted by KFC

He would be the only purple left at that point. If he even can roleblock me, he would have to give up the night kill to do it, and then NO ONE dies. That's always a win for Town. I'm not seeing how this plan doesn't work for you, if you're town.

So now you think Dominos is purple? And if he is, how do you know he'd be the only one left? And even if both of those things are true, wouldn't it STILL be better to lynch Dominos so as to remove the scum ability to roleblock?

Originally Posted by KFC

Let me break this down for you a little more clearly: From your perspective, there's only two possibilities for who the scum are.

1. Subway, Dominos, and Popeyes. Here, if we lynch Subway, Dominos is the only killer left, and if he roleblocks, he gives up a night kill. Meanwhile, JitB can control Popeyes' kill.

2. Subway, Dominos, and Popeyes. Here, if we lynch Subway, the purple faction is gone altogether, so we're down to one night kill straight up. Dominos can choose to roleblock me, but then the pink night kill is controlled by JitB, and again, no scum night kills.

From your perspective, it looks like the "Lynch Subway" option can only end in "no night kills" if I get roleblocked. This is good for Town, yes?

From my perspective there are a million possibilities for who the scum are. Anyone who isn't me or Arby's is a suspect. My leading theory is the Subway/Dominos team are purple, but it could be Dominos and someone else. All I know for certain is that it's Dominos, which is why I want to lynch him.

Here's my plan:

We lynch dominos today, thereby eliminating any chance of a roleblock for tonight. KFC then uses his gun to shoot Subway tonight, while Jack in the Box witches Popeyes onto Subway. If everyone FOLLOWS THE FUCKING PLAN THIS TIME, this will result in: Subway dies. If Popeyes is scum, Subway's death message at the start of D5 will include whatever color the blacksmith gun is + Popeye's faction color (presumably pink, but who knows). So if the kill includes pink or purple we'll know Popeyes is scum and can safely lynch him. If it's only a single color, then we know that Popeyes is not a killer.

Of course, if Popeyes is innocent that means the "masons" aren't really masons and will betray us and screw up the plan (again), but I'm not sure we can really afford to account for that, though I'm open to suggestions.

[QUOTE=KFC;788577]That's basically the plan. Dominos knows I'll be targeting him, so if he's actually a town Operator and y'all are scum, he can switch me and TB while Taco Bell investigates one of you two, deflecting the kill off of himself and onto y'all. Sounds foolproof to me?[/QUOTE]

...Or Dominos could just roleblock you and prevent you from using the gun. Again. Because he's a consort.

[QUOTE=Arbys;788574]So let me get this straight [MENTION=36695]KFC[/MENTION]

You want us to lynch Subway. Then you fire your gun at Dominos. JitB witches popeyes onto himself. Correct?

It is extremely likely they are both scum because subway could have literally just sent a . for her crier message to confirm she was still one. Dominos is a safer option imo, but because chances are so high that Subway is scum that I am probably fine with lynching her and letting you take the shot.

[MENTION=36691]Taco Bell[/MENTION] you realize BK just put down what popeyes is claiming right?

Regardless my vote is going to stay on Dominos atm until I get BK's input if he thinks it is fine to switch.[/QUOTE]

Don't switch your vote. I have a different plan which I'll post later when I have more time. Stay tuned. Hint: it involves lynching Dominos

Originally Posted by KFC

That's basically the plan. Dominos knows I'll be targeting him, so if he's actually a town Operator and y'all are scum, he can switch me and TB while Taco Bell investigates one of you two, deflecting the kill off of himself and onto y'all. Sounds foolproof to me?

...Or Dominos could just roleblock you and prevent you from using the gun. Again. Because he's a consort.

Originally Posted by Arbys

So let me get this straight @KFC

You want us to lynch Subway. Then you fire your gun at Dominos. JitB witches popeyes onto himself. Correct?

It is extremely likely they are both scum because subway could have literally just sent a . for her crier message to confirm she was still one. Dominos is a safer option imo, but because chances are so high that Subway is scum that I am probably fine with lynching her and letting you take the shot.

@Taco Bell you realize BK just put down what popeyes is claiming right?

Regardless my vote is going to stay on Dominos atm until I get BK's input if he thinks it is fine to switch.

Don't switch your vote. I have a different plan which I'll post later when I have more time. Stay tuned. Hint: it involves lynching Dominos

Living players:

:town:
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Burger King
Arbys[/COLOR]

:scum:
[COLOR="#800080"]Dominos - Consort[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#800080"]Subway - Crier[/COLOR]

My leading theory is that he and subway are purple together. DQ used to kill for them, but since he died, one of them needed to do it. Since killing replaces other night actions, and roleblock is far more useful to scum than crier is, Subway went for the kill and came up with a garbage excuse ("but muh real life guys") and Dominos tried to cover for him with his fake action claim.


[SIZE=4][B][COLOR="#DDA0DD"]Possible Pink Fucks[/COLOR]:[/B][/SIZE]

Jack in the Box - Witch
Taco Bell - who the fuck knows

I'm not buying the "traitor" thing, so if one of the above are scum, they're both scum. Their claim lives and dies based on how Popeyes flips... But they also didn't follow the plan we agreed upon yesterday, which doesn't look good for them. Taco's general incompetency is the only reason we didn't immediately lynch them for this. A part of me is still inclined to turn on them strictly on principle- I absolutely fucking hate the idiot defense. It ruins the game, as evidenced by our current situation. Taco Bell has 0 credibility in my book, so if we don't get more out of Jack in the Box, I'm going to recommend we treat them as scum.

KFC - Citizen
Least likely to be scum out of the unconfirmed options. Confirmed not in the same faction as Dominos by last night's roleblock, so he'd have to be in the opposite faction. And he couldn't have performed the kill last night due to the roleblock, so he'd need to have a living ally that carried it out since both kills occurred last night. This means he'd either need to be part of a 3-man purple faction, or a 2-man pink faction.

Popeyes - Citizen
Either he's pink or the "masons" are. He has been quite helpful in day chat... Far more so than the masons have... *cough* [MENTION=36700]Jack in the Box[/MENTION] . But there's only one way to know for sure.

It's also possible the pink killer isn't alone. In that case, half the living players are town and half are different scum factions.

Have to go for now. Back later.

Living players:


Burger King
Arbys


Dominos - Consort
Subway - Crier

My leading theory is that he and subway are purple together. DQ used to kill for them, but since he died, one of them needed to do it. Since killing replaces other night actions, and roleblock is far more useful to scum than crier is, Subway went for the kill and came up with a garbage excuse ("but muh real life guys") and Dominos tried to cover for him with his fake action claim.


Possible Pink Fucks:

Jack in the Box - Witch
Taco Bell - who the fuck knows

I'm not buying the "traitor" thing, so if one of the above are scum, they're both scum. Their claim lives and dies based on how Popeyes flips... But they also didn't follow the plan we agreed upon yesterday, which doesn't look good for them. Taco's general incompetency is the only reason we didn't immediately lynch them for this. A part of me is still inclined to turn on them strictly on principle- I absolutely fucking hate the idiot defense. It ruins the game, as evidenced by our current situation. Taco Bell has 0 credibility in my book, so if we don't get more out of Jack in the Box, I'm going to recommend we treat them as scum.

KFC - Citizen
Least likely to be scum out of the unconfirmed options. Confirmed not in the same faction as Dominos by last night's roleblock, so he'd have to be in the opposite faction. And he couldn't have performed the kill last night due to the roleblock, so he'd need to have a living ally that carried it out since both kills occurred last night. This means he'd either need to be part of a 3-man purple faction, or a 2-man pink faction.

Popeyes - Citizen
Either he's pink or the "masons" are. He has been quite helpful in day chat... Far more so than the masons have... *cough* @Jack in the Box . But there's only one way to know for sure.

It's also possible the pink killer isn't alone. In that case, half the living players are town and half are different scum factions.

Have to go for now. Back later.

[QUOTE=Dominos;788289]Considering that I thought that Subway was town and I had no reason to doubt that - Yes.[/QUOTE]

Ok. Then answer me this- How do you suppose you could you have affected Subway's crier article while you were roleblocking KFC last night?

[vote]Dominos[/vote]

Originally Posted by Dominos

Considering that I thought that Subway was town and I had no reason to doubt that - Yes.

Ok. Then answer me this- How do you suppose you could you have affected Subway's crier article while you were roleblocking KFC last night?

-vote Dominos

[QUOTE=Dominos;788270]No I am not sure about that - I was saying that it was possible until Subway turned up and said nope - I didn't write one!
[MENTION=36695]KFC[/MENTION] where do you slot Popeyes? He no longer fits if Subway is the other purple. Unless they both are.[/QUOTE]

But up until that point, you thought you had caused it, right?

Originally Posted by Dominos

No I am not sure about that - I was saying that it was possible until Subway turned up and said nope - I didn't write one!
@KFC where do you slot Popeyes? He no longer fits if Subway is the other purple. Unless they both are.

But up until that point, you thought you had caused it, right?

[QUOTE=Subway;788266]I literally did not send any message to Crypt so it cannot have messed with anything[/QUOTE]

Then you agree that Dominos is lying?

Originally Posted by Subway

I literally did not send any message to Crypt so it cannot have messed with anything

Then you agree that Dominos is lying?

[QUOTE=Dominos;788253]I'm undecided on Subway because of my action last night Subway could have been messed up. Or Arbys was sent to kill McD and Subway did as well thus my action did nothing. Until I can sort out what Popeyes is and why he tried to get himself lynched over DQ - Popeyes is still my prime suspect for SK. But I'm willing to explore this Subway being SK further.[/QUOTE]

Your night action caused there to be no Crier article? Are you sure about that?

Originally Posted by Dominos

I'm undecided on Subway because of my action last night Subway could have been messed up. Or Arbys was sent to kill McD and Subway did as well thus my action did nothing. Until I can sort out what Popeyes is and why he tried to get himself lynched over DQ - Popeyes is still my prime suspect for SK. But I'm willing to explore this Subway being SK further.

Your night action caused there to be no Crier article? Are you sure about that?

[QUOTE=Popeyes;788242]I’m not sure what this post means? Would you mind explaining?
The 3 scum:
Subway DQ dominos

———

But I can also see
4 scum:
DQ subway tb JITB[/QUOTE]

Actually, hang on-

Your 3-scum list doesn't include Jack or Taco. So if that's the case, why do you suppose that they decided to lie about you being night-immune if they are town?

Originally Posted by Popeyes

I’m not sure what this post means? Would you mind explaining?
The 3 scum:
Subway DQ dominos

———

But I can also see
4 scum:
DQ subway tb JITB

Actually, hang on-

Your 3-scum list doesn't include Jack or Taco. So if that's the case, why do you suppose that they decided to lie about you being night-immune if they are town?

[QUOTE=Popeyes;788242]I’m not sure what this post means? Would you mind explaining?
The 3 scum:
Subway DQ dominos

———

But I can also see
4 scum:
DQ subway tb JITB[/QUOTE]

oh jk. I somehow missed that DQ was in your list. I should probably sleep soon.

I could see that configuration, but my issue with it is that Dominos seems to want to defend Subway and that only makes sense if they're in the same faction.

Originally Posted by Popeyes

I’m not sure what this post means? Would you mind explaining?
The 3 scum:
Subway DQ dominos

———

But I can also see
4 scum:
DQ subway tb JITB

oh jk. I somehow missed that DQ was in your list. I should probably sleep soon.

I could see that configuration, but my issue with it is that Dominos seems to want to defend Subway and that only makes sense if they're in the same faction.

[QUOTE=Popeyes;788238]I have the headcannon that there are only 3 scum in a 2kpn setup

Subway DQ as the party hosts killing for sport at the party
Dominos as unintentional third killer.

However. I am open to the idea that Taco Bell and JITB are the pink faction insureds.[/QUOTE]

That would be 4 scum in the setup. DQ is dead, but he was still scum.

Originally Posted by Popeyes

I have the headcannon that there are only 3 scum in a 2kpn setup

Subway DQ as the party hosts killing for sport at the party
Dominos as unintentional third killer.

However. I am open to the idea that Taco Bell and JITB are the pink faction insureds.

That would be 4 scum in the setup. DQ is dead, but he was still scum.

[QUOTE=Dominos;788230]You realize that Chick only said they had a night chat will less than 30 mins to the day left? Until then we did not know they had one - hell Chick didn't even know BKs win con until BK said it in day chat, don't you think that would be something they would have shared in the night chat? Holes were starting to form already, BK and Arbys had no choice but to plug the leak.[/QUOTE]

Now you're just making shit up. We claimed our wincons in night chat. I'd say good try, but... It really hasn't been a very good try.

Originally Posted by Dominos

You realize that Chick only said they had a night chat will less than 30 mins to the day left? Until then we did not know they had one - hell Chick didn't even know BKs win con until BK said it in day chat, don't you think that would be something they would have shared in the night chat? Holes were starting to form already, BK and Arbys had no choice but to plug the leak.

Now you're just making shit up. We claimed our wincons in night chat. I'd say good try, but... It really hasn't been a very good try.

[QUOTE=Popeyes;788219]I think dominos is pink.
I am green.
I was witched.[/QUOTE]

Let's pretend for a second that I believe your witched claim. How does that make Dominos pink?

Originally Posted by Popeyes

I think dominos is pink.
I am green.
I was witched.

Let's pretend for a second that I believe your witched claim. How does that make Dominos pink?

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;788211]Then you come up with one.[/QUOTE]

Ok, sure. Here's my theory:

[COLOR="#00FF00"][B]ICU[/B]
Arbys
Burger King[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"][B]Masons[/B]
Jack in the Box
Taco Bell[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"][B]KFC[/B]
KFC[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#800080"][B]Purple fucks[/B]
Dominos
Subway[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#EE82EE"][B]Pink fuck[/B]
Popeyes[/COLOR]

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

Then you come up with one.

Ok, sure. Here's my theory:

ICU
Arbys
Burger King

Masons
Jack in the Box
Taco Bell

KFC
KFC

Purple fucks
Dominos
Subway

Pink fuck
Popeyes

[QUOTE=Dominos;788208][takes another shot]

Because I'm saying Chick [Blue] wins with Pink![/QUOTE]

If he won with pink and we were pink, why would we kill him? Your story makes zero sense, dude.

Originally Posted by Dominos

[takes another shot]

Because I'm saying Chick [Blue] wins with Pink!

If he won with pink and we were pink, why would we kill him? Your story makes zero sense, dude.

[QUOTE=Dominos;788187]Once he decided to buddy you and support your claim, he is auto scum if you flip pink even if he is blue. So yes, he went with it. You kill him to remove him potentially outting your team - not to mention that him flipping blue puts both of you in a favorable light in towns eyes.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. And I've read Taco Bell's posts. Paint harder plox

Originally Posted by Dominos

Once he decided to buddy you and support your claim, he is auto scum if you flip pink even if he is blue. So yes, he went with it. You kill him to remove him potentially outting your team - not to mention that him flipping blue puts both of you in a favorable light in towns eyes.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. And I've read Taco Bell's posts. Paint harder plox

Ok, so let me get this straight [MENTION=36693]Dominos[/MENTION]- You are saying that you believe that Chick was the only town member in an otherwise all scum night chat. And that, even though he believed me to be nearly confirmed town to the point that he refused to hamemr me at L-1, Arby's and I decided "yeah, let's kill the 3rd part of our voting block" rather than, say... I dunno... literally anyone else.

Ok, so let me get this straight @Dominos - You are saying that you believe that Chick was the only town member in an otherwise all scum night chat. And that, even though he believed me to be nearly confirmed town to the point that he refused to hamemr me at L-1, Arby's and I decided "yeah, let's kill the 3rd part of our voting block" rather than, say... I dunno... literally anyone else.

[unvote][/unvote]

[QUOTE=KFC;788093]He avoided being lynched yesterday because you let him tell you to lynch DQ instead. He’s trying to lynch anyone but him for obvious reasons; he stays alive for another night kill if someone else gets lynched.[/QUOTE]

Why are you beating him up over the DQ lynch? I'm no fan of Taco's, but the vote on DQ was the best decision he's made all game. We actually lynched a fucking scum for once. You could argue that Popeyes was a better lynch, but given that we had confirmed intel that DQ was scum I think it was the safer way to go, especially since WE HAD A FUCKING PLAN to deal with Popeyes at night.

In any case, I'm not opposed to lynching Popeyes today, but I want to wait for everyone to check in before I make up my mind on who the best lynch for today is.

-unvote

Originally Posted by KFC

He avoided being lynched yesterday because you let him tell you to lynch DQ instead. He’s trying to lynch anyone but him for obvious reasons; he stays alive for another night kill if someone else gets lynched.

Why are you beating him up over the DQ lynch? I'm no fan of Taco's, but the vote on DQ was the best decision he's made all game. We actually lynched a fucking scum for once. You could argue that Popeyes was a better lynch, but given that we had confirmed intel that DQ was scum I think it was the safer way to go, especially since WE HAD A FUCKING PLAN to deal with Popeyes at night.

In any case, I'm not opposed to lynching Popeyes today, but I want to wait for everyone to check in before I make up my mind on who the best lynch for today is.

[QUOTE=KFC;788033]Ironically, I'm still leaning on Jack and Taco being town.

The lack of crier last night is very telling. Can't wait to see if Subway bothers to show up today, and what she has to say.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing.

Originally Posted by KFC

Ironically, I'm still leaning on Jack and Taco being town.

The lack of crier last night is very telling. Can't wait to see if Subway bothers to show up today, and what she has to say.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing.

Ugh. Taco Bell's incompetence is making this game way more complicated than it needs to be.

Now, instead of having a nearly confirmed roles list, we have to decide if it's more likely that Jack and Taco are scum that are using Taco's stupidity as an excuse to justify their crappy plays or if they are a town faction that is actually being hampered by Taco Bell's stupidity.

Place your bets now, ladies and gents.

Ugh. Taco Bell's incompetence is making this game way more complicated than it needs to be.

Now, instead of having a nearly confirmed roles list, we have to decide if it's more likely that Jack and Taco are scum that are using Taco's stupidity as an excuse to justify their crappy plays or if they are a town faction that is actually being hampered by Taco Bell's stupidity.

Place your bets now, ladies and gents.

[QUOTE=KFC;788006]We had a foolproof plan to prevent the pink night kill, KILL a pink, and confirm two town all in one fell swoop. This plan required YOU to smash Popeyes while JitB witched Popeyes onto himself.

You decided to go against this plan, and take an invalid action. I can't possibly fathom why JitB would be arguing with you.



Only feedback I got?

Roleblocked.

I could state my presumption on where that came from, but I would guess at this point that it wouldn't be helpful.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;788009]Why would KFC be role blocked? [MENTION=36696]Arbys[/MENTION] explain why you Role blocked KFC[/QUOTE]

:facepalm:

Originally Posted by KFC

We had a foolproof plan to prevent the pink night kill, KILL a pink, and confirm two town all in one fell swoop. This plan required YOU to smash Popeyes while JitB witched Popeyes onto himself.

You decided to go against this plan, and take an invalid action. I can't possibly fathom why JitB would be arguing with you.



Only feedback I got?

Roleblocked.

I could state my presumption on where that came from, but I would guess at this point that it wouldn't be helpful.

I agree.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

Why would KFC be role blocked? @Arbys explain why you Role blocked KFC

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787996]Wow really why is everyone taking his side.[/QUOTE]

Because there was an obvious good plan that everyone agreed on and yet after we agreed on this, you apparently argue against it in favor of a shitty plan no one wanted. How does it surprise you that everyone is against your shitty plan?

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787999][MENTION=36690]Burger King[/MENTION] are you claiming KFC visted Mcdonalds?[/QUOTE]

No.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

Wow really why is everyone taking his side.

Because there was an obvious good plan that everyone agreed on and yet after we agreed on this, you apparently argue against it in favor of a shitty plan no one wanted. How does it surprise you that everyone is against your shitty plan?

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

@Burger King are you claiming KFC visted Mcdonalds?

No.

[QUOTE=KFC;787988]Can I hope you targeted Dominos? He's the one most easily confirmed by your action. If he's not lying about his role he'd give you two targets; and he was my most likely suspect for DQ's buddy. At least we confirmed that Purple was not a solo killer.

Alternatively if you targeted me, that'd clear me from being either of the killers.[/QUOTE]

If you claim your feedback, I'll claim mine.

Originally Posted by KFC

Can I hope you targeted Dominos? He's the one most easily confirmed by your action. If he's not lying about his role he'd give you two targets; and he was my most likely suspect for DQ's buddy. At least we confirmed that Purple was not a solo killer.

Alternatively if you targeted me, that'd clear me from being either of the killers.

If you claim your feedback, I'll claim mine.

[QUOTE=Jack in the Box;787975]Last night Taco Bell refused to listen to the plan made to confirm us, deciding he wanted to investigate for a cult for whatever reason. So I was forced to smite Popeyes instead, and not Witch as we can't use the smite and our normal action simultaneously. Popeyes then came back to be night immune.

AFK shower.

[vote]Popeyes[/vote][/QUOTE]

So you're saying you can both choose to smite/investigate on any given night?

Originally Posted by Jack in the Box

Last night Taco Bell refused to listen to the plan made to confirm us, deciding he wanted to investigate for a cult for whatever reason. So I was forced to smite Popeyes instead, and not Witch as we can't use the smite and our normal action simultaneously. Popeyes then came back to be night immune.

AFK shower.

-vote Popeyes

So you're saying you can both choose to smite/investigate on any given night?

[QUOTE=Arbys;787979]I agree with that, I do though really want to figure out why there wasn't a crier article.[/QUOTE]

I have a theory, but I want to hear Subway's explanation first.

Originally Posted by Arbys

I agree with that, I do though really want to figure out why there wasn't a crier article.

I have a theory, but I want to hear Subway's explanation first.

So with this, the most likely scenario is that Taco and Jack are the pink faction and there is one more member of the purple faction.

[COLOR="#00FF00"][B]Confirmed town[/B]
Arbys
Burger King[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#DDA0DD"][B]Pink Motherfuckers[/B]
Jack in the Box
Taco Bell[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#800080"][B]Possible Purple Motherfuckers[/B]
Dominos
KFC
Subway
Popeyes
KFC[/COLOR]

So with this, the most likely scenario is that Taco and Jack are the pink faction and there is one more member of the purple faction.

Confirmed town
Arbys
Burger King

Pink Motherfuckers
Jack in the Box
Taco Bell

Possible Purple Motherfuckers
Dominos
KFC
Subway
Popeyes
KFC

[MENTION=36696]Arbys[/MENTION]

Based on this turn of events I think we need to keep our feedback hidden for now.

@Arbys

Based on this turn of events I think we need to keep our feedback hidden for now.

Also- wtf happened to the crier article?

Also- wtf happened to the crier article?

Unwilling to explain. Very well then.

[vote]Taco Bell[/vote]

Unwilling to explain. Very well then.

-vote Taco Bell

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787962]WTF BK you jailed MD dead[/QUOTE]

Yes, those things happened.

Now explain why Popeyes is alive.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

WTF BK you jailed MD dead

Yes, those things happened.

Now explain why Popeyes is alive.

I also can't help but notice that Popeyes is still alive...

[MENTION=36691]Taco Bell[/MENTION] [MENTION=36700]Jack in the Box[/MENTION]

Explain yourselves

I also can't help but notice that Popeyes is still alive...

@Taco Bell @Jack in the Box

Explain yourselves

So there's still a purple alive, and both pink and purple wanted McDonald's dead. Interesting.

So there's still a purple alive, and both pink and purple wanted McDonald's dead. Interesting.

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787766]KFC so you have not even noticed or commented on the info I put up about the voting patterns and Arby’s pops scum team.[/QUOTED]

I’m still in the car on the way home. I can read and comment more thoroughly once I’m home. If Dominos can clear himself (and thus DQ) with a strong believable narrative, Arbys is guaranteed scum. I need to see what Dominos has to say.[/QUOTE]

Arby's isn't scum, that makes no sense. Get your head out of your ass.

[QUOTE=Dairy Queen;787772]I don't understand why I'm not even getting a shred of defense. I don't know if this is a one-way lover type of deal or what, but now that the name is out there IDK why that person isn't coming forward... The only thing I can think of is maybe the person lied about their name and or hasn't even payed attention to my namedrop. Another thought that I've had....Arbys is still pushing my lynch which is odd because he's the only person to my knowledge that hasn't claimed a name yet... Although at this point I don't think he'd be able to back off now because the fake claim has already been made and it would legitimately out himself and BK as scum, and at this point there is no going back from that. If Arbys is Eloise he has no choice but to see my lynch go through now and lose his own life in the process. This being my current thought I guess I am ok with being lynched in this case if it see's arbys meet his demise. But that would essentially be a 1 town for 1 scum trade off. And there is still the chance someone lied about their name and could flip green =\. Mechanically it would be better if we could lynch 1 scum though, fucking mooooooooooooot.[/QUOTE]

You've been caught. My guess is solo killer with no allies to defend you.

[QUOTE=Dominos;787803]I strongly believe that the ICU have more roles than they are telling. They are saying that they are 3 confirmed town aligned people with a night chat(including dead chick) who are witch immune and roleblock immune and immune to my own ability and have a detection ability that can't even be lost if one of them dies. That in my opinion is the most OP town combo I've ever heard, it makes much more sense that they are just one of the scum factions, maybe their kill doesn't show up as their team color.[/quote]

Not sure if you're misunderstanding what we do or if you just have a vastly different definition of OP. Either way, I find it hard to see a town complaining about it in this manner. It reads like frustrated scum. I also think your role is strange for a town member to have, given that it fucks with people's targets and apparently leaves no feedback. Seeing as the witch leaves feedback, why do you suppose your role, which operates similarly to the witch, would both not leave feedback AND be aligned with town?

That doesn't make sense to me, which leads me to the conclusion that you are very likely scum. Might have to bump you up on the waitlist after DQ

[QUOTE=Dominos;787803]
DK being a solo killer is possible, especially if Popeyes is pink, then pink would want to conserve their KPN advantage. Popeyes/Taco/Jack Pink team makes sense, they can witch DQ and secure the victory as long as they have that 2nd kill. Fits my theory.

I'm a operator, I targeted BK and Chick - which is why McD flipped out when Arbys claimed the det result.


Why would I be jailed if I was his buddy? Chick already confirmed that McD is a jailer.
[/QUOTE]

There is no DK. I assume you mean DQ in which case- yes, solo killer is the running theory

[QUOTE=Dominos;787814]I didn't take an action night 1, as I didn't want to have to out myself if I messed up a detection ability - which is pretty much what happened today. It's a big reason I didn't trust the multiple cit claims as my ability requires lots of PRs. Day 1 was such a mess that I would get a much better read on people if I could know their real targets - and even if I managed to target a scum, who ever I switched their target with would still end up with someone being roleblocked/witched/dead. So not using my ability till later seemed like the better course of action.

There are too many people claiming to be roles that are immune to mine to fit me into setup logic[/QUOTE]

Who has claimed immunity to your action besides myself and Arby's? Is 2 too many? Why are you so butthurt about other roles being immune to yours?

[QUOTE=Subway;787827]You're ruling out the fact that Chick has confirmed BK as an ICU guy, so it's not their word vs yours, it's their word being indirectly supported by Chick vs yours.[/QUOTE]

If by "indirectly" you mean "very fucking directly" then yes.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

KFC so you have not even noticed or commented on the info I put up about the voting patterns and Arby’s pops scum team.[/QUOTED]

I’m still in the car on the way home. I can read and comment more thoroughly once I’m home. If Dominos can clear himself (and thus DQ) with a strong believable narrative, Arbys is guaranteed scum. I need to see what Dominos has to say.

Arby's isn't scum, that makes no sense. Get your head out of your ass.

Originally Posted by Dairy Queen

I don't understand why I'm not even getting a shred of defense. I don't know if this is a one-way lover type of deal or what, but now that the name is out there IDK why that person isn't coming forward... The only thing I can think of is maybe the person lied about their name and or hasn't even payed attention to my namedrop. Another thought that I've had....Arbys is still pushing my lynch which is odd because he's the only person to my knowledge that hasn't claimed a name yet... Although at this point I don't think he'd be able to back off now because the fake claim has already been made and it would legitimately out himself and BK as scum, and at this point there is no going back from that. If Arbys is Eloise he has no choice but to see my lynch go through now and lose his own life in the process. This being my current thought I guess I am ok with being lynched in this case if it see's arbys meet his demise. But that would essentially be a 1 town for 1 scum trade off. And there is still the chance someone lied about their name and could flip green =\. Mechanically it would be better if we could lynch 1 scum though, fucking mooooooooooooot.

You've been caught. My guess is solo killer with no allies to defend you.

Originally Posted by Dominos

I strongly believe that the ICU have more roles than they are telling. They are saying that they are 3 confirmed town aligned people with a night chat(including dead chick) who are witch immune and roleblock immune and immune to my own ability and have a detection ability that can't even be lost if one of them dies. That in my opinion is the most OP town combo I've ever heard, it makes much more sense that they are just one of the scum factions, maybe their kill doesn't show up as their team color.

Not sure if you're misunderstanding what we do or if you just have a vastly different definition of OP. Either way, I find it hard to see a town complaining about it in this manner. It reads like frustrated scum. I also think your role is strange for a town member to have, given that it fucks with people's targets and apparently leaves no feedback. Seeing as the witch leaves feedback, why do you suppose your role, which operates similarly to the witch, would both not leave feedback AND be aligned with town?

That doesn't make sense to me, which leads me to the conclusion that you are very likely scum. Might have to bump you up on the waitlist after DQ

Originally Posted by Dominos

DK being a solo killer is possible, especially if Popeyes is pink, then pink would want to conserve their KPN advantage. Popeyes/Taco/Jack Pink team makes sense, they can witch DQ and secure the victory as long as they have that 2nd kill. Fits my theory.

I'm a operator, I targeted BK and Chick - which is why McD flipped out when Arbys claimed the det result.


Why would I be jailed if I was his buddy? Chick already confirmed that McD is a jailer.

There is no DK. I assume you mean DQ in which case- yes, solo killer is the running theory

Originally Posted by Dominos

I didn't take an action night 1, as I didn't want to have to out myself if I messed up a detection ability - which is pretty much what happened today. It's a big reason I didn't trust the multiple cit claims as my ability requires lots of PRs. Day 1 was such a mess that I would get a much better read on people if I could know their real targets - and even if I managed to target a scum, who ever I switched their target with would still end up with someone being roleblocked/witched/dead. So not using my ability till later seemed like the better course of action.

There are too many people claiming to be roles that are immune to mine to fit me into setup logic

Who has claimed immunity to your action besides myself and Arby's? Is 2 too many? Why are you so butthurt about other roles being immune to yours?

Originally Posted by Subway

You're ruling out the fact that Chick has confirmed BK as an ICU guy, so it's not their word vs yours, it's their word being indirectly supported by Chick vs yours.

If by "indirectly" you mean "very fucking directly" then yes.

[QUOTE=Subway;787655]You're there literally ruling purple scums out lol. DQ is scum, and you should have listened to me on early D1!! And I should have listened to myself, too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude. I've been saying DQ was scum from the beginning. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

Originally Posted by Subway

You're there literally ruling purple scums out lol. DQ is scum, and you should have listened to me on early D1!! And I should have listened to myself, too.

Yeah dude. I've been saying DQ was scum from the beginning. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

[QUOTE=Popeyes;787616]Can I get a show of hands for the people who are getting hammered once this game ends?[/QUOTE]

why wait?

Originally Posted by Popeyes

Can I get a show of hands for the people who are getting hammered once this game ends?

why wait?

[QUOTE=KFC;787605]Does it matter? If he says nothing, we lynch him at the end of the day. What are you so afraid of? I’ll be here, Taco will be here, that’s all you need for a hammer.[/QUOTE]

What I'm afraid of is that you're on a scum team with DQ and are trying to stall and force a no-lynch. I don't trust Taco with hammering responsibility, or with much of anything for that matter. And you shouldn't either, so your insistence that he'll be the one to do it is extra worrisome.

Originally Posted by KFC

Does it matter? If he says nothing, we lynch him at the end of the day. What are you so afraid of? I’ll be here, Taco will be here, that’s all you need for a hammer.

What I'm afraid of is that you're on a scum team with DQ and are trying to stall and force a no-lynch. I don't trust Taco with hammering responsibility, or with much of anything for that matter. And you shouldn't either, so your insistence that he'll be the one to do it is extra worrisome.

[QUOTE=KFC;787596]He said he had another lover and another RP he name he was waiting to get claimed. That info has not been divulged yet. I’m also waiting to hear his narrative in who he thinks is scum and town, how he explains the actions and claims.

I’m also not interested in an early hammer regardless.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's a stall tactic. He's just going to wait and never claim it. Do you notice how he was one of the most active posters for days 1 & 2 yet today he has been less active than fucking Jack in the Box? What could he possibly say that would change our course at this point? I can't think of anything.

Originally Posted by KFC

He said he had another lover and another RP he name he was waiting to get claimed. That info has not been divulged yet. I’m also waiting to hear his narrative in who he thinks is scum and town, how he explains the actions and claims.

I’m also not interested in an early hammer regardless.

Yeah, that's a stall tactic. He's just going to wait and never claim it. Do you notice how he was one of the most active posters for days 1 & 2 yet today he has been less active than fucking Jack in the Box? What could he possibly say that would change our course at this point? I can't think of anything.

[QUOTE=KFC;787590]He could be, but the RP doesn’t fit that. And it’s only anti-town to try and get him lynched before he can tell his story.

DQ getting the feedback and lying about it doesn’t make sense. Again, either Arby’s or Domino’s is lying, and Domino lying doesn’t make sense unless he’s teamed with someone, most likely DQ. Get a better narrative. Explain the roleblock.[/QUOTE]

He already told his story. He said he's a citizen that can't visit anyone, so he didn't visit anyone last night. What more are you hoping for him to say? Why does it feel like you're trying to cover for him?

Originally Posted by KFC

He could be, but the RP doesn’t fit that. And it’s only anti-town to try and get him lynched before he can tell his story.

DQ getting the feedback and lying about it doesn’t make sense. Again, either Arby’s or Domino’s is lying, and Domino lying doesn’t make sense unless he’s teamed with someone, most likely DQ. Get a better narrative. Explain the roleblock.

He already told his story. He said he's a citizen that can't visit anyone, so he didn't visit anyone last night. What more are you hoping for him to say? Why does it feel like you're trying to cover for him?

[QUOTE=Subway;787586]May I... Where does it state that there cannot be [I]two[/I] scum teams?[/QUOTE]

Just my head. Nowhere official.

Originally Posted by Subway

May I... Where does it state that there cannot be two scum teams?

Just my head. Nowhere official.

[QUOTE=KFC;787575]If I were culted and DQ was not on my cult team, I woulda jumped on that hammer faster than a slut on a fat dick, because that would've won the game for us.



Honestly? Very little. But I'm not willing to discount a theory where you could be trusted, but your "teammate" Jack not, as well as Chick Fil A being trustable, but his "teammates" BK/Arbys not. I very much want to hear what DQ/Dominos have to say in regards to all this, what narrative they can come up with, along with Subway's input, as she's the one who hired the ICU yet still didn't trust BK. I will certainly never hammer DQ this early in the day, and certainly not before he coughs up the rest of the information he claims to have. He said he has a lover and another RP name to claim, but right now literally everyone in the game is counter-claiming him; and that shouldn't be true, if he's truly scum.[/QUOTE]

He could be a solo killer. Would explain why no one is defending him, and fits with the fact that TB and Jack seem to think pink is the cult faction. Or his buddies could just see him as a sinking ship and would rather not stay on board to improve their chances at hiding from us.

[QUOTE=KFC;787577]What I know to be true:

Dominos claimed roleblocked, and Arbys claimed witched. If these are both true, Starbucks action would have gone through. If Starbucks action went through, it would have targeted DQ, Dominos, or Taco Bell. None of those people received Starbucks feedback, therefore: Either Dominos or Arbys HAS to be lying. And right now, neither of those people are on the lynch stand. I want this explored more, and I want Dominos/DQ/Subway input, before we hammer anyone.[/QUOTE]

If kills go before his action, then his action wouldn't resolve because he'd already be dead. It's either that, or DQ is lying about not getting the feedback in the hopes that he lives through today and can do a surprise double kill tonight.

Originally Posted by KFC

If I were culted and DQ was not on my cult team, I woulda jumped on that hammer faster than a slut on a fat dick, because that would've won the game for us.



Honestly? Very little. But I'm not willing to discount a theory where you could be trusted, but your "teammate" Jack not, as well as Chick Fil A being trustable, but his "teammates" BK/Arbys not. I very much want to hear what DQ/Dominos have to say in regards to all this, what narrative they can come up with, along with Subway's input, as she's the one who hired the ICU yet still didn't trust BK. I will certainly never hammer DQ this early in the day, and certainly not before he coughs up the rest of the information he claims to have. He said he has a lover and another RP name to claim, but right now literally everyone in the game is counter-claiming him; and that shouldn't be true, if he's truly scum.

He could be a solo killer. Would explain why no one is defending him, and fits with the fact that TB and Jack seem to think pink is the cult faction. Or his buddies could just see him as a sinking ship and would rather not stay on board to improve their chances at hiding from us.

Originally Posted by KFC

What I know to be true:

Dominos claimed roleblocked, and Arbys claimed witched. If these are both true, Starbucks action would have gone through. If Starbucks action went through, it would have targeted DQ, Dominos, or Taco Bell. None of those people received Starbucks feedback, therefore: Either Dominos or Arbys HAS to be lying. And right now, neither of those people are on the lynch stand. I want this explored more, and I want Dominos/DQ/Subway input, before we hammer anyone.

If kills go before his action, then his action wouldn't resolve because he'd already be dead. It's either that, or DQ is lying about not getting the feedback in the hopes that he lives through today and can do a surprise double kill tonight.

[QUOTE=KFC;787575]If I were culted and DQ was not on my cult team, I woulda jumped on that hammer faster than a slut on a fat dick, because that would've won the game for us.



Honestly? Very little. But I'm not willing to discount a theory where you could be trusted, but your "teammate" Jack not, as well as Chick Fil A being trustable, but his "teammates" BK/Arbys not. I very much want to hear what DQ/Dominos have to say in regards to all this, what narrative they can come up with, along with Subway's input, as she's the one who hired the ICU yet still didn't trust BK. I will certainly never hammer DQ this early in the day, and certainly not before he coughs up the rest of the information he claims to have. He said he has a lover and another RP name to claim, but right now literally everyone in the game is counter-claiming him; and that shouldn't be true, if he's truly scum.[/QUOTE]

In order for any people that share a persistent night chat to not have the same wincon, one of these sets of things must be true:

1. One of them is a "traitor" that was there to betray the rest of their chat buddies from the start
2. There is a cult in this game, that cult can recruit people from other night chats, those people retain access to their former night chats even after being culted, and on top of that insane recruiting ability, there is also 2kpn

I feel 100% confident that we have ruled out option 2 by virtue of Cryptonic knowing how to balance a game.

As for option 1, though I was wary of my team initially for this exact possibility, none of us have done anything to oppose the wincon we all have. I know my wincon is with town and I know that either one of them could have hammered me yesterday if they wanted to betray me, but they didn't. So I can only conclude that they are my allies.

I can't guarantee the same is true for Jack & Taco, but for now I believe them. If they fail to kill Popeye's and/or Popeye's flips town, then we'll have to re-evaluate tomorrow.

Originally Posted by KFC

If I were culted and DQ was not on my cult team, I woulda jumped on that hammer faster than a slut on a fat dick, because that would've won the game for us.



Honestly? Very little. But I'm not willing to discount a theory where you could be trusted, but your "teammate" Jack not, as well as Chick Fil A being trustable, but his "teammates" BK/Arbys not. I very much want to hear what DQ/Dominos have to say in regards to all this, what narrative they can come up with, along with Subway's input, as she's the one who hired the ICU yet still didn't trust BK. I will certainly never hammer DQ this early in the day, and certainly not before he coughs up the rest of the information he claims to have. He said he has a lover and another RP name to claim, but right now literally everyone in the game is counter-claiming him; and that shouldn't be true, if he's truly scum.

In order for any people that share a persistent night chat to not have the same wincon, one of these sets of things must be true:

1. One of them is a "traitor" that was there to betray the rest of their chat buddies from the start
2. There is a cult in this game, that cult can recruit people from other night chats, those people retain access to their former night chats even after being culted, and on top of that insane recruiting ability, there is also 2kpn

I feel 100% confident that we have ruled out option 2 by virtue of Cryptonic knowing how to balance a game.

As for option 1, though I was wary of my team initially for this exact possibility, none of us have done anything to oppose the wincon we all have. I know my wincon is with town and I know that either one of them could have hammered me yesterday if they wanted to betray me, but they didn't. So I can only conclude that they are my allies.

I can't guarantee the same is true for Jack & Taco, but for now I believe them. If they fail to kill Popeye's and/or Popeye's flips town, then we'll have to re-evaluate tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787560]If DQ flips Green I am Bashing your head in tonight[/QUOTE]

sounds like a plan

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

If DQ flips Green I am Bashing your head in tonight

sounds like a plan

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787552]@ anyone If i saw the host on the lawn wouldn't that confirm he was town Green?[/QUOTE]

If a detective agency was hired specifically to find DQ, wouldn't that make DQ scum?

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

@ anyone If i saw the host on the lawn wouldn't that confirm he was town Green?

If a detective agency was hired specifically to find DQ, wouldn't that make DQ scum?

[QUOTE=Jack in the Box;787527]Generic, but if we kill a non-scum both of us die.[/QUOTE]

I see. That explains why you haven't been doing that more.

Originally Posted by Jack in the Box

Generic, but if we kill a non-scum both of us die.

I see. That explains why you haven't been doing that more.

[MENTION=36700]Jack in the Box[/MENTION]

does your bash only kill "cult" or is it a generic kill?

@Jack in the Box

does your bash only kill "cult" or is it a generic kill?

[QUOTE=Taco Bell;787510]Then lych my ass because It is so aggravating and annoying to have night feedback that confirms a scum yet no one sees it. I want to die if you dont lych popeyes. becuse I dont want to be here to the end when scum when and we lose. LYCH ME IF YOU WILL NOT LYCH POPEYES[/QUOTE]

Nah dude. You gotta wait your turn. It's DQ's turn today and we have a waitlist for upcoming lynches. Place your reservation sooner next time.

Originally Posted by Taco Bell

Then lych my ass because It is so aggravating and annoying to have night feedback that confirms a scum yet no one sees it. I want to die if you dont lych popeyes. becuse I dont want to be here to the end when scum when and we lose. LYCH ME IF YOU WILL NOT LYCH POPEYES

Nah dude. You gotta wait your turn. It's DQ's turn today and we have a waitlist for upcoming lynches. Place your reservation sooner next time.