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Chane · April 20th, 2014, 03:30 PM

I didn't get your hopes up, did I?

[IMG]https://arbitrarynonsense.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Joffrey-Baratheon-on-the-Iron-Throne-2.png[/IMG]

so my frail old brain decided to recall, and thus I came forth once more to question thy all what (the fuck) I have missed in my absence, everything seems to have gotten a rather green tint.

tankboy · January 29th, 2014, 01:28 AM

wait, tankboy isn't the anti-christ anymore? what have I miseed o.0

Azuriae · January 28th, 2014, 02:58 AM

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;420031]It started again in patch 2.1[/QUOTE]

how big is it for the basic donor rank? I think I"m somewhere around 8000 on my main and if patron is 10000 then I don't suppose it will do much :P

Chane · January 27th, 2014, 03:23 PM

Took a while but a promise is a promise, with new players coming to Mafia each day I think it would be fitting to reopen this thread to see what new ideas may spawn, REJOICE

louiswill · January 27th, 2014, 03:10 PM

[COLOR="#EE82EE"]SK
SK[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#A52A2A"]MM
MM[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]ARSON
ARSON[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#008000"]VETE INFINITE
VETE INFINITE[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#4B0082"]WITCH
WITCH[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]VIGILANTE
VIGILANTE[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]BUS DRIVER
BUS DRIVER
MAYOR[/COLOR]

Chane · January 27th, 2014, 03:03 PM

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;419900]Lots have happened.xD[/QUOTE]

I need details, YES, sweet juicy details

Chane · January 27th, 2014, 10:44 AM

am I seeing green or am I just high on acid?

anyways, games so far:

G1: SK, won without killing anybody, most fun build imo
G2: SK, lost, random killed with no invul
G3: Invest, won with good -lw
G4: Cult, won late-game with witch doctor convert
G5: Cult, lost, N1 convert into ML, FML

Chane · January 27th, 2014, 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=RLVG;419869]Restore it as NA. :cheesy:[/QUOTE]

So can you just have your points copied over to the NA server and keep points on EU or do you have to transfer?

Chane · January 27th, 2014, 09:31 AM

So I just got back into Maf after a long ass break (due to school) so Hi, *shakes hands

WHAT HAVE I MISSED?!?!

also, do any of you actually play sc2maf to these days?

PS: gonna make a point recovery thread, I got all of it wiped for some reason, aint' to glad about that.

Fragos · January 27th, 2014, 09:29 AM

I'm a fucking Hoothoot, fak

oh, hi, what an honor it is :o

**Damus_Graves** · July 31st, 2013, 05:33 AM

/x/sign

eezstreet · July 25th, 2013, 02:19 AM

[COLOR="#EE82EE"]Serial Killer
Serial Killer[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFA500"]Arsonist
Arsonist[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#800080"]Mass Murderer
Mass Murderer[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Disguiser
Disguiser[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Veteran
Veteran[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Bus Driver
Bus Driver[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Mayor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Random Neutral
Random Neutral[/COLOR]

Chane · July 24th, 2013, 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=Titus;354133][color=#00ff00]How would the cult win if there was no neutral killer? Even if they maxed recruits, there's no way they could win unless they did a mislynch almost every day.[/color][/QUOTE]

[COLOR="#FFA500"]How they'd win is for the cult to figure out, if there even is a cult.[/COLOR]

Chane · July 24th, 2013, 02:41 AM

[QUOTE=ika;354174]im not hosting it but i think the host knows if there were no neutral killers and only a cult it would be terribly imba.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]OoO, invest pairings and rules are needed

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Set-up is HEAVILY WIP, these will be added when all the core mechanics are set in stone, it might be wise to revisit the thread from time to time as I am almost back from vacation after which I will make major changes to the set-up, although the idea will stay the same.[/COLOR]

consig sees exact?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Yes, but doesn't become GF if the GF dies.[/COLOR]

jailor perfect rb and seperation of chat? execution perice immune?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]perfect RB, separation of chat, and pierce immune yes.[/COLOR]

doc and victim get attack and healed feedback? cult convesion ruing?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]doc and victem get feedback, no feedback if cult is unsuccessful.[/COLOR]

vig shoot night 1?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Hell yeh, N1 comes after D1.[/COLOR]

janitor charges?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]2/3, not sure as off yet, will be confirmed later.[/COLOR]

can blackmailed target post "I am blackmailed" or something of the sort?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]No.[/COLOR]

masifo need descrition

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Will add it later, this is a minor chore.[/COLOR]

arson douse on?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Only Arsonists know if they are doused, does NOT pierce immunity[/COLOR]

MM spree sucesfull? no move counts as self vist for mm? mm vist self?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Succesfull sprees yes, yes, yes, will specify in the role card later[/COLOR]

witch casue sefl target? witch force vet alert? immune to rb?

[COLOR="#FFA500"]no, yes without dying herself, no - forcing a RB'r to visit you won't roleblock that night however[/COLOR]

jester greif be healed?[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#FFA500"]Nope, instant death at the end of day[/COLOR]

this is what i see at a lookthorugh i might have more as it gets answered[/QUOTE]

there, but yet again keep in mind that everything down to the special mechanics can be changed, big changes are coming up however the main idea of the set-up (which should be clear) stays the same.

powerofdeath · July 23rd, 2013, 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=ika;353755]i was annoyed that you converted me when i had this plan set up to allow me to stay escort and be town, im just annoyed that you ended up converting me anyway and my lynch on caroline to make it near impossible to want to convert me so it all ended up being a waste[/QUOTE]

and I made sure that because you were unlikely to be converted I converted you anyways, ensuring that towns plans were gone to waste and perhaps even securing me a consort if the sheriff used basic wifom at all, what better option then to make the town lynch one of their best players which is their escort as well. Well, you didn't get lynched after all, sr for fakking up your plans <3

powerofdeath · July 23rd, 2013, 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=ika;353750]you were lucky i was on break and decided to pull this game up when it was l-1 otherwise youprob would of lost it becasue of that[/QUOTE]

I'd say it's just a mafia player's duty to hammer for the win, thank you regardless, why do you have to be so mean D:

powerofdeath · July 23rd, 2013, 08:11 AM

Ika, it's L-1 hammer before the town understands what's going on!

Chane · July 23rd, 2013, 07:55 AM

[COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Disclaimer:[/B] this set-up is heavily WIP, I will finish it when I get back to the Netherlands, the main premise is a game with heavy time pressure on, forcing the town to quickly figure out what threat they are facing before it is to late, things are prone to change, although it may seem dull now I can assure you that it will be a unique experience once it's done and played.[/COLOR]

[B][CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR="#00FFFF"]S-FM: Craven's Town[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER][/B]

[COLOR="#00FF00"]
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Hidden Neutral
[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Hidden ANY
Hidden ANY
Hidden ANY[/COLOR]

[CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR="#00FFFF"]Possible Roles[/COLOR][/SIZE] [wip, will be fancied up later][/CENTER]

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Town[/COLOR]
Citizen: NO vest for you.
Investigator: Learn somebodies possible set of roles each night
Detective: follow somebody at night to find out who they visited
Escort: Roleblock somebody at night
Jailor: Jail somebody at night and chose to execute them or not, 2 execution charges.
Doctor: Heal somebody at night
Bus Driver: swap effects from person X and Y at night, can target self.
Gunsmith: grant somebody a gun at night, enabaling them to shoot somebody the following night, 2 charges
Vigilante: Shoot somebody at night, 2 shots, can trade both bullets for 1 shot that pierces invulnerability
Veteran: can go on alert at night rendering him invulnerable to death and killing any visitors, 2 alert charges.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia[/COLOR]
Godfather: can kill somebody at night, can kill without a mafioso
Consigliere: learn somebodies role at night
Blackmailer: prevent somebody from posting during the day for 1 day.
Consort: roleblock somebody at night
Janitor: clean somebody if he is killed that night
Mafioso

[COLOR="#EE82EE"]Neutral Evil[/COLOR]
Serial Killer: kill somebody at night.
Arsonist: douse somebody at night or burn all doused players, can douse and ignite during the same night.
Mass Murderer: kill everybody at somebodies house at night, 1 night between sprees
Witch: Force player X to use his ability at night on player Y, can target X to use his ability on yourself.
Cultist: vote with other cultist to convert a player to the cult at night, max of 4 cultists.

[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Neutral[/COLOR]
Amnesiac: chose to become any role from the graveyard
Executioner: see your target get lynched during the day, if target dies during the night become a Jester
Jester: get lynched during the day, the person that hammered you dies.
Survivor: one vest for you.

[COLOR="#00FFFF"][CENTER][B][SIZE=4]Special Mechanic[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/COLOR]

[SIZE=3][COLOR="#FFFF00"][B]On the dawn of the 6th day each and every player in the game is killed and NOBODY WINS, meaning there are 5 days and 5 nights to win the game, this is the case for all the factions.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

powerofdeath · July 23rd, 2013, 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;353723]I could tell in your posts.
You tried to make it look like it was possible for 2 doctors in some of your posts.[/QUOTE]

but I called it unlikely, so it didn't come out to bite me in the ass as a scum preparing against a CC.

I was rather eager for a "second" doctor to stand up so we could "exchange" healing after I lynched Orpz.

powerofdeath · July 22nd, 2013, 11:46 PM

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;353711]Nobody suspected there was no doctor at all xD[/QUOTE]

becides the man who claimed it ;)

oh wait, I also thought there was a doc, just hiding among the recruits.

powerofdeath · July 22nd, 2013, 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=Orpz;353697]aw man. GG all, didn't see that one coming.

[vote]chane mvp[/vote]

Reflecting, I think Chane's biggest scum tell was straight up saying logic is a scum tell.[/QUOTE]

it was 2 in the morning, in some hotel appartment in Italy, I had to go, so I decided to test a little risky play (which was my biggest fail this game I agree).

Dagon, would you have still lynched Orpz if it wasn't for Ika? also, a mafia voting with his GF to lynch is something a mafia member should do if it grants the win, it's just that in fm things can be delayed causing other things to happen.

few more notes, I actually THOUGHT there was a doctor in the game that had claimed recruit to hide themselves, which is what I would've done as Doctor, claim recruit and hope to be "recruited".

last night I killed Damus because he was the most likely perhaps doctor canidate and I had dageen roleblocked just in case he was a doctor healing damus.

all in all it was a fun little game, and that escort lynch wasn't TO bad as I didn't get to speak at all d1, winning in one day is a fun thing to do indeed.

I did learn a lot from the current state of the game, and although people claim it was just a complete town failure, my recruiting of Ika and role claim were risky to say the least. Claiming doc left me completely out of suspicion as I spend the first half of the day guessing set-up's and doing other townish things.

GG

Bunny · July 22nd, 2013, 02:12 PM

I agree that it should be used as a bump instead, although hosts have all the freedom to do the sign-up's as they please and let people in as they please I would still either random players or select from a pool, never first come first serve, I have been bitten in the ass to many times by my timezone to even vaguely appreciate the first-come-first-serve way of sign-ups.

Hypersniper · July 22nd, 2013, 02:08 PM

/reserve :)

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:34 PM

I conclude that Orpz has the highest chance of being GF, I got the info (and the description of it) which I required to stem my doubts about the matter.

[vote]Orpz[/vote]

and with that I say good night, Dagon it seems you reserved the honor for yourself again.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Orpz;352824]I'd rather not wait another day. [COLOR="#FF0000"]I already feel like it's a Town victory and I don't want to give Damus a chance to recruit me onto his sinking ship.[/COLOR]

I stay on this page when I do other things, then I refresh and read and post.

Chane, how would you expect scum to behave in this setup?

I was quick to eliminate possibilities because this is a small game and there were lots of unCC'd and really the only person I had to eliminate was Dagaen.[/QUOTE]

Red seems to indicate that which I like to call "close to the mob win syndrome"

if you are the GF in this situation you see that I am the only one with a vote uncast, you would want to make that vote sway towards Damus before the train starts going on you.

something which town does a lot is guess and try to feel somebodies role by acting on a bit of instinct, scum would try to seem as logical as possible, using as many facts as possible to seem more town, you seem to fit the bill on that regard.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:21 PM

also, I am noting that orpz has been lurking for the past 15 minutes.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:20 PM

atm Dagon is thinking Damus and RLVG is thinking O, I'd be more inclined to follow RLVG on this one as Dagon only provided a "because i feel that way" as reasoning, I'd like some more analysis from him.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:18 PM

I found Orpz to be more scummy then Damus from reading through yet he seems to be putting effort into his defense, Damus defends himself with a "lol" and logged off.

Oprz called him out for not putting up a proper defense which seems more like exploiting then scumhunting to me, the thing is, Orpz is trying hard to save his own skin while Damus is a bit more non-gallant in his defense.

Orpz is rather quick to eliminate all possibilities and focused on Damus, however Damus did a similar thing, it makes sense from either recruit's perspective, now all that really remains is how town they behaved and how hard they are fighting for their own skin (or to prevent a miss-lynch).

btw, It's 01:17 in the morning here and I got to turn this laptop off soon and get to sleep, let's all put in our opinions on Dammy and O and consider them against each other, I think we'll be able to chose right from here.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:06 PM

[QUOTE=RLVG;352814][COLOR="#FF0000"]Godfather
Escort[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit[/COLOR]

Lynch Consort.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Godfather
Recruit[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit[/COLOR]

Lynch Recruit.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Godfather
Recruit[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Sheriff
Doctor[/COLOR]

2v2.

I disallow lynching Ika, I disallow having to lynch recruits.[/QUOTE]

thx for doing the calculation, I just don't think it will benefit our information, at least now we know for SURE who is the consort, tomorrow it depends on who the sheriff targets.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:00 PM

sec, gonna brush my teeth

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 04:00 PM

so if we lynch Ika today and GF recruites we get this situation:

Chane - Doctor
Damus - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
O - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
Dagon - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
RLVG - Sheriff

RLVG would be able to confirm somebody as the next mafia or secure a Recruit but I think the situation would not benefit us much regardless

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=Dagaen;352806]It's a MYLO today (4v2) and it will be MYLO tomorrow (3v2). Choosing between both I'll chose one with more information for Town.

[vote]ika[/vote][/QUOTE]

this is a solid point, from my perspective either you damus or O could possibly be GF, one of you will get recruited (if he recruits which is most likely) leaving one town Recruit, I might be miscalculating but would that provide an advantage?

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:52 PM

if we allow Ika to live I think I'll be dead at night if we don't lynch the right one, I am waiting for Damus his counter to Orpz as he has a point in Damus not defending his claim.

I actually considered you to be a doc/rec before you claimed dagon, I still hope you might just be a wifoming doc but little chance of that, that would grant us much more flexibility during tonight if we might misslynch.

hmmm this is a hard one and I'm almost forced to shut down, I'd love Damus to provide a response, otherwise I deem it savest to lynch Ika as it might be to big of a gamble.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=Dagaen;352801]Right now I think Damus is better target than Orpz, but I have little experience with both of them.

Also: we can lynch Ika, making it 4v1. We know that GF probably claimed Recruit.

Tomorrow it will be 3v2, but Sheriff will check one of the Recruits so we will know who lies. And it will be 50-50 chance to lynch GF. How that sounds for you?

Sure, today is also 50-50, because GF is probably Damus or Orpz, but it's 50-50 only for me, because I know I am Recruit. Also Chane could be easily GF, seeing that nobody claimed Doc.[/QUOTE]

lyncing Ika is an option as well as it would shut off the Role block, however I don't really like the idea of granting GF another new recruit, he already knows who the sheriff and doctor are by now and he will probably recruit rather then kill if we lynch Ika.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=RLVG;352798]There's no CC here.[/QUOTE]

IF we have 2 doctors one of the Recruit claims might be a doctor as well, but one of them is also the GF, Orpz has a point that Damus didn't solidly dispute his claim yet which is why I haven't voted him yet, I find Dagon's claim to be the strongest, his townclaim that is.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:34 PM

I actually healed RLVG last night as I highly suspected him to be sheriff (just following instinct besides that he stayed a bit passive day1 yet didn't seem like a lurking gf)

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=Dagaen;352792]Another person calling me Dagon. Damn you Ika.

As I said: I didn't try to pass as town yesterday because I am a Recruit. I'm not a good troll, but I did my best to be worst possible target for Mafs. Anyway, we have no reason to doubt Sheriff that Ika is Mafia so you know I wasn't recruited last night. And it would be hell of a gamble to troll as gf.

"I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it. " - That's a weird thing to say as a Recruit, but Damus was always a mystery for me.

Chane, I don't know what's weird with my claim - looks like everybody claimed their roles already. Your turn now.

List of claims:

[COLOR="#FF0000"][COLOR="#00FF00"]Dagaen - Recruit
RLVG - Sheriff
Damus_Graves - Recrut
Oprz - Recruit[/COLOR][/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Ika - Escort/Consort
Chane - ???[/COLOR]

Claim or die, dude.[/QUOTE]

my claim should come to no surprise, I am doctor.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:30 PM

It seems to me that Orpz is soft-claiming recruit (if I am not mistaken, he doesn't specify it but I am gathering it from his posts) and damus and dagon as well, one of them is a false-claim, damus has been a lot more open and dagon has a decent town-claim (although I still find it a bit quick to claim) as it is likely to be damus or Orpz, call it bouncing the ball but I would like Dagon's opinion on Damus and Orpz before committing to a possible loss here, today is gonna be risky however you look at it.

3v2 if we misslynch
2v2 after kill
3v2 if heal

furthermore I'd like both Orpz and Damus his opinion on all the remaining players (besides RLVG as his claim wasn't contested)

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:20 PM

that pretty much summed up my thoughts of the game so far, I haven't been able to scumhunt day1 as I am a replacement but I'll now consider both Damus and Orpz and see if I draw any conclusions when reading it better.

powerofdeath · July 21st, 2013, 03:17 PM

just got back from diner, I have mixed thoughts atm. I am not entirely confinced that Orpz is GF just yet however his defense post seemed rather aggressive in nature. Based on Damus his play and if I remember him correctly this is his town playstyle.

furthermore I have observed that Damus has been actively scumhunting a lot more then Orpz, it is hard to explain but Orpz seems more scumish in his reaction.

RLVG is confirmed to me as Sher, I haven't gotten a full read on Dagon yet, however I found one post to be a tad weird:

"Ok, I guess this is a role-call day.

I am a Recruit.

I didn't try to pass as Town yesterday and did my best to attract attention - I am still Town, so that means my strategy was succesful.

So New Guy is GF after all?"

I think the claim was a bit early and a bit to preemptive, however I am not drawing conclusions just yet, I think I will vote on Orpz but I'd like to discuss this a bit more to not put him in lynch range of Ika + gf.

I suspect that role list to be like this:

GF
Consort
[COLOR="#000000"]Escort[/COLOR]
Doctor
Sheriff
Recruit/Doctor
Recruit

I heard somebody say he random.org'd the roles, anybody has confirmation on this?

SHINRamen · July 21st, 2013, 10:19 AM

don't forget you get access to the R&D forum, you might vote on new roles when they become available.

also, getting 5000 points was very gratifying indeed.

kyle1234513 · July 21st, 2013, 10:16 AM

It's an issue with the maker of the set-up's you play, you have to wager the possible set-ups that can be made with infinite alert vete against the decrease in OP-vete set-up's you have to play in pubs.

I'd say we keep the infinite alert vete though, I love making set-up's with him at the core.

Beuzmoker · July 21st, 2013, 08:08 AM

yeh I like it, it is very simmilar to a role I suggested about a year ago that was all about swapping role and identity, I do however suggest you to remove the "survive" way of winning, he should lose the game if he fails to swap into a role and win with it.

sixsixsix · July 21st, 2013, 01:40 AM

welcome to the forums! if you love playing mafia and you have a lot of time on your hands you should try the FM section of our forum, and look to signup for a small-forum-mafia. they are special set-ups with special rules played on the forum instead of in-game over a longer period of time (s-fm's last a week or so) with each day being 24 hours long for example, the people that play these "s-fm's" are highly skilled compared to the pub scmaf players and you might find some great games there, if you got the time of course :)

**Raptorblaze** · July 21st, 2013, 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;352656]Skillz might be rusty mate. Lets see another game before taking on the title :p[/QUOTE]

would love to, but I'm in Italy for 5 more days, after which I'll be on full time again, I'd love nothing more but a good Vigi game.

**Raptorblaze** · July 21st, 2013, 01:30 AM

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;351523]No no. Best Vigilante is quite frankly Fragos.[/QUOTE]

nope, he makes epic fm's but I am the #1 vigilante, only been able to show it much in-game while I never miss a shot, I woulda EZ-MVP M-FM XIII if I had read blazers (where the fuck has he gone) special event, took out SK night 1 and woulda taken GF the night after if I didn't die, just waiting for another vigi game.

RLVG · July 18th, 2013, 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=Hypersniper;351693]I like it maybe a dildo for the escort XD[/QUOTE]

more like a stripping pole...

OT: I like the idea, though as mentioned before it should be tied in with a meta-achievement system.

Dark.Revenant · July 18th, 2013, 07:45 AM

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;350761]Damus Graves: The gal with the most profanity in her description.[/QUOTE]

confirmed.

**Raptorblaze** · July 18th, 2013, 07:42 AM

[QUOTE=kyle1234513;351476]where did elite marine the vigilante go?[/QUOTE]

he just abruptly went missing, the vigilantes went downhill from there, however I am still the best Vigilante.

Fragos · July 18th, 2013, 07:31 AM

perhaps not for XX but I do love the idea of a 5 sided Mafia FM, however I would like it to be one big room, seeing the faction politics on a huge scale will be fun. I'd love to play it

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