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    Had an interesting conversation with a 2 star in a cigar lounge today. His take was essentially that the fact Israel hosts a US Missile-defense base in a key strategic area makes Israel an important ally to America and for that reason its necessary to curve the populations view of the country to allow US support against their enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    if they are, why are Hamas labeled as "Terrorists" by all our media (other than their ungentlemanly warfare) if all they do is fight for their independence? Independence that's recognized by 139 UN states no less.
    This is an issue I focus on quite a bit. Western propaganda has an awful habit of assigning labels to spin situations in a specific light. I personally do not believe that Israel's response is any less 'ungentlemanly warfare.' They had massive bombing campaigns into the Gaza strip with absolute disregard for civilian lives. Regardless of the 'how we got here' I feel like the optics of the situation are pretty intentionally skewed. Those groups have been doing awful things to etch other for a very long time and we just happen to back one side over the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    This include bounty hunter being impossible to win unless it was on Lylo. Werewolves with Deathproof Trees, etc.
    Something I found particularly interesting was how BH's win con was further leveraged by the other roles. Multiple functions existed in the game which limited towns ability to lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    It’s scum sided due to there being 3 Saplings which are arguably bad roles for toen.
    I felt like a few town roles could have easily hurt the town more than helped. My Bride ability increases the KPN, soul mate can increase the kpn, Flower child further inhibits lynching, sapling decreases towns ability to lynch and judge risks suicide while inhibiting lynching.

    I had fun playing. Never truly got to throw myself fully into it and power town but came across some interesting situations. Its not often I end up arguing against lynching a confirmed mafia in favor of tossing the dice on an inactive player.

    @powerofdeath
    Was I correct that the ghost was killed by mafia or was it killed by the teacher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @oliverz144

    we're planning to vote you off so you can vengeful kill scumbot

    this works so we can clear both you guys in one day, which leads to auto-win --- see the above quoted post

    MAKE SURE YOU TELL THE HOST THAT YOU'RE TARGETING THEM -- YOU DON'T KILL THEM AFTER DEATH, YOU KILL THEM UPON DEATH.
    If we come up with a near total mechanical crunch I will get behind this and push for it. Otherwise I really do townread Oliver and would put him very low in the PoE for elimination.

    Would rather have him vengeful target and have our ghost push an evil teacher paring on him after a side lynch without looking at the numbers. Haven’t really dug into it and I’m half in drunk mode now but that feels more optimal than a lynch especially if I set up a if/then scenario.

    I have only been wrong about very small details in this game so far and I think our ghost will follow my lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    @Helz
    You also don’t understand.
    You are NOT night immune anymore, it wears off tonight.
    No. I never was night immune. It was bullshit wild card manipulation that made us think I was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    It’s not a waste in case someone gets sceptical.
    You should use it on me.
    Not gona happen. I really don’t think you need to be cleared and it burns something I plan on hanging onto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    @Varcron


    also Helz just bride Dark Magician, unless you want to risk it for the biscuit and check someone rn
    Without the BH I’m probably going to live long time. I want to save that 1 shot for end game if it’s needed and I really don’t think DM needs checked. They are town and that would be a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    So here’s the plan:
    Oliver Venge Kills Scumbot
    Varcron goes MM and Martin
    Tau goes MM and Luka

    @Helz
    I’m more confident simply lynching Scumbot hits mafia.

    Really not about lynching a town to kill another player. We just kill that player instead and keep our townie.
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    For our trees in this town please stop becoming trees. Hold your vote power. It’s what we need right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    I am DEATHPROOF,
    I cannot vote.
    I will not die to you dying Helz.

    The only thing that happens is you receive my Rolecard.
    As in you already used the ability?

    Also
    -vote scumbot5679

    Off the top of my head. Will make reads and shit tomorrow
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    Im going to drink with some friends tonight.

    Productive focus would be reads within the PoE and alignment reads on Cape’s play.

    The fact we have a ghost on our side, neutral gone and only 2 mafia left puts us in a great position imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    I'm just town and I don't get why helz suspects me at all
    More process of elimination and wagonomics than a read. I am a mechanical player alongside my analytical play and what I have been doing so far this game has been working very well.

    Martin is still a potential. Im more saying my today focus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    So if we believe Mizery

    The poe is

    Luka
    Scumbot
    Dark magician
    Oliver
    Martin

    We lynch one of these

    We give 2 targets to varcron and i get 2 given by Helz at eod
    Luka, Scumbot, Oliver is my days focus.

    Also worth mentioning I am not night immune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    and i can't help you do anything. I'm nothing. I don't exist. I am a shell simply talking and thinking and unable to act. I am a spectator in a game i signed up play.
    Could cripple the mafia with us for not helping you have a chance : )

    Work with us and take the read credit if you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    oh I get it now, i think. porscha was like her own little faction?
    Basically neutral benign.

    Gotta say though, I fucking nailed that alignment read specifically calling them neutral : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    what do i need to do to be modkilled

    because I literally can't stand this

    there was no way for me to win at all because of how many fucking invest roles there are
    because mass claiming is a valid strat bc there's no werewolf
    literally mafia is sucking and there's no way for me to win the game at all not since i started playing it because of the distro
    Just chill and Lol cat.

    You played well and got some bad luck night actions. Mod kill would be a bit BM and curve the gamestate I. A way that’s unfair for other players
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    I think we should lynch outside of Mizery today. (Sorry Mizery)

    Keeping them alive with an anti mafia ghost is a powerful tool until we sort the last 2 mafia
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    Oh, cool. I don’t gotta die : )
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    We are missing something.

    The N2 kills suggest an evil teacher and Mizery claims it yet there’s only 3 neutrals possible with 2 dead and a bounty hunter message.

    @powerofdeath
    Could a fabricator fake bounty hunter feedback?

    Also looks like we have our answer about ghost being anti mafia
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @Helz

    you missed scumbot saying he forgot n2 and gave it to varcron n1
    Fair enough. He can confirm himself tonight
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    -vote bwcPorscha


    Just gona do this

    I very much question Scumbot’s claim but it can be sorted with a conversation. From play I townread Mm but I dislike 3 saplings in a game designed to cripple towns lynch power with minimal kill utility. Misery is a slot everyone is back and foreth on but I would rather see Porsha sorted than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I felt good about them earlier, mostly due to tone iirc. It's just that they disappeared, basically, which is weird. If I had to lynch an under-the-radar slot, though, it would be Scumbot before Porscha.
    It would have been my first choice but I don’t understand the cat lady claim. It’s awful for scum cover. Confirmable utility with scum pairing. Yet nobody has encountered a cat and claimed which means they are blocking scum or lying.

    Wish they were here to give targets..
    If they are scum they are evil cat lady/Mafia for sure
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    @Varcron
    If your anti Mafia target within the PoE and force them on Cape. We will work to kill your enemies either way so helping the town is also your strongest chance to win

    To the evil teacher- as stated Oliver is vengeful and will be targeting cape. Killing him by self pairing or by targeting within the PoE will push your wincon well.
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    Not gona lie, I’m kinda debating pushing for CFD Porsha.

    They do enough to stay under the radar and feel very unremarkable to most people. Exelent play if they are neutral imo.
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    A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

    How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    That's... abysmal. What, am I supposed to root and become a tree too afterwards? I don't think that makes any sense, since we'd lack town votes at some point. It's better than straight up spending the lynch on me, but it's very bloody trash. My answer is no, not unless I'm straight up dying anyway.


    Just remove "scum" from here and you'll be right, because this is entirely bullshit lol, and I don't need to be scum to find it dumb
    I was not going to propose either way but thank you for the response
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    @Marshmallow Marshall

    If I propose to you will you accept to sort your slot?
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    Has anyone received a cat this game?

    I feel like it would be an odd claim for scum given it’s utility is confirmable while it has an evil pairing but I do not Remeber hearing anyone mentioning getting a cat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Again, Helz can just confirm me by using Bride on me.

    Also are you honestly trying to sus me right now? Lmao.
    You don’t need confirming. Stop asking. You are town
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    This eod is stupid why are we not literally killing the outed wolf
    If there was a day to not do that it was yesterday after he claimed flower child. Not today.
    This job is taking longer than I anticipated but I’m trying to wrap it up so I can jump in full time.

    We have a small PoE of players with a high chance of hitting scum plus a ghost who can kill cape and is likely anti-mafia win con and a vengeful who can target on Cape.
    If the vengeful targets cape and the evil teacher targets Oliver then cape dies. Also strong potential for teacher to bridge someone in the PoE with Oliver for a potential triple kill which would eliminate 2 scum and 1 town fitting their objectives.

    Lots of advantages to going off cape. If I had the time I was intending on digging through cape to see alignment indicators. Given his play I was actually going specifically look for if there were some players he avoided while pushing at everyone else.
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    Pacifist and evil pacifist are not in the game. We woulda had their interaction last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    I'm sorry exactly why are we not killing cape today
    The ghost can target players PoE and force them onto cape role blocking the player / elimination of cape.

    our vengeful can target cape opening the door for eliminating them at night via Evil teacher. Also potential to mail 2 scum at once

    It lets us vote in the PoE sorting the game and maybe killing a scum.

    Lots of upside in such a play while town is hurting for ways to shoot into a scum packed PoE
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    yes
    mizery?
    scumbot luka porscha lily?
    I’m kinda down with any of those. Luka is less likely mafia in my book but I feel our chances are great shooting into such a PoE. Will take some time to read into players when I wrap this project up and get home
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    You lose nothing and I lose nothing if you choose me.
    I loose an ability that would be absolutely critical in a 3p lylo or potentially very useful in many others.

    Your town. You do not need mechanical confirmation. Your vote power is worth much more than you being confirmed and nobody is pushing you. I’m flat out not going to marry you for those reasons. And I will also say there are specific interactions I’m keeping in mind that can only occur if I still have this ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Helz TRUST ME.
    I am the ONLY player in this game where it’s +EV to choose me.

    You will understand when you get my Rolecard.
    I 100% know your role card bro. I do not need the mechanical reveal. You have not been subtle about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Seriously Helz.
    Give me the damn bribe.
    I am a town that you can use it on without problem.
    Trust me.
    I understand exactly what you are communicating. The thing your considering doing could be bad for the town though.

    I also feel if somehow the BH is knocked out that bride would have strong utility if I end up in a lylo and your pretty much already confirmed to me already. Getting a mechanical reveal of your role gives me no advantage while sacrificing a potentially good one in the future. Right now we should be considering how to use our vote power. In a game where we are so very limited to get rid of scum our votes is all we have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    @Helz keep in mind that eod is in a few hours, so whatever we re going to do, we have to consolidate now
    I very much agree.

    If the rest of the town supports my reasoning I would like to open discussions to lynching outside of Cape today and the wonderful question of “who”
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    Gona do a bit of electric work but I will be on and off my phone. Will be active Eod
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    I would very much like to hear peoples thoughts on not voting off Cape.

    Oliver's vengeful could sit on his head and Evil Teacher would have a strong desire to pair Oliver with a neutral making a 1 for 1 trade or a 1 for 2 while we would also be able to lynch someone today. I feel like thats our best option given the gamestate.
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    Also

    @oliverz144
    I am almost as confident that DM is town as I am that Huo is for what its worth. Just noticed your vote was on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    why do we have to vote-off Helz

    more specifically

    why do we need to kill the bounty hunter?
    Well it would put us under the gun for a time line and further cripple our vote ability if the game goes on. Thats some risks..
    Potential for the Ghost to mess with that ability which is cool but I am really afraid of our lack of ability to eliminate players as a town. Like.. I have not been in this situation in a mafia game before where we reliably know exactly who needs to die but are hindered in our ability to make it happen on a D3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Im chewing on a triple kill of 2 neutral 1 town instead of 2 town 1 neutral : )
    Scum* not specifically neutral and one would certainly be mafia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    thats why i suggested the triple kill
    Im chewing on a triple kill of 2 neutral 1 town instead of 2 town 1 neutral : )
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    Random points I have not mentioned.

    I noted Mizery trying to open up the PoE by pushing Huo as potential Evil Teacher. Still not tracking on their reasoning behind that but the potential intention is of note.

    Martin's claim is very well seeded. Will have to WIFOM if that was done intentionally as a high level play to fake confirm down the road or if its legit but his play has been pro-town.

    Were essentially at 7v5. Likely shifts to something like 5v4 with a cape lynch. If we lynch off Cape and Oliver vengeful targets Cape an evil teacher could go for a double (or triple) elimination. As much as I dislike coaching scum heres how that could play-
    Teacher targets someone in the PoE. Very high chances of non town (even easier for them given they are in that PoE) as well as Oliver. Oliver vengeful targets Cape with the result of 2 scum and 1 town eliminated.

    This is very good for the evil teachers win con as they need that Mafia block broken up and its a pretty nice thing for the town as well.
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    Essentially the problem with having such a strong town block is our night wifom is fucked in a 2-3 kpn situation without lynch control if that makes sense..
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    i want to kill cape...
    me, you, cape all die today,tomorrow the thread is free
    I don't see this as a good play though. Either just cape dies or 2 town die with cape. Theres no real upside there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    yeah I get it but it is what it is
    Well its why I am considering that we may need to not lynch Cape today and instead lynch within our PoE and leave Cape for Varcron to handle. Gives us potentially an additional scum while mitigating the chance of the Ghost hurting a townie. Our best world would be if we hit the Bounty Hunter.
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    To be clear the problem I am looking at is our lack of ability to kill identified scum. We are crippled in our lynch ability by both a Bounty Hunter and Evil Flower Child and we do not have much kill utility. With our vengeful outed I am worried that we basically have no chance if we go Cape today, and Me tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    okay so

    if Mr Magician

    Helz

    Oliver

    Martin

    and (apparently) Lilypetal

    baddies are

    Cape (obvious)

    Scumbot
    Marshmallow
    Mizery
    Bwc
    luka

    am I missing something?
    Im not confident on Lily but yes. I do believe we have a lot of scum in a very small PoE. Its an interesting situation because we have such limited ability to eliminate them and basically have to hope for more cross kills between the factions for a chance to win.
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    So something we have not really discussed is the Varcron issue. We have a very powerful neutral with a win condition that fits ours. I believe its more likely that they are against Mafia than against Neutral and we can help feed them information to our advantage.

    One potential could be simply to not lynch Cape and leave him for the Ghost to eliminate while we hunt down his friends. If he is paying attention he should know 5 peoples roles leaving a pretty small pool outside of Cape to manipulate. This will functionally be a role block as well as a potential to eliminate a scum opening up an additional lynch for the town. While it leverages on if I am correct that he is anti-mafia as opposed to anti-neutral for the cape part its functionally the same if I am wrong in its other respects.

    I am curious to hear what you guys think about this.

    Also- @Dark Magician I would think carefully about the other thing you are pondering although your half committed now.
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