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    ►►Re: How much toxicity is an offence?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Maybe people hate toxicity and so they choose to leave this game?

    That being said, to answer your first comment : there aren't many unique players who have been permanently banned for toxicity.
    To get a better idea about what's going on, I recommend having a look at this statistical study made by @Lumi : A Statistical Analysis of Racism Across 10K+ Replays
    Although the title only refers to racism, the analysis considers slurs in general.
    I recommend everyone to take a look at it whenever you can.
    Here is an extract that should either answer your concerns, or raise new ones, depending on how you currently see the situation.
    Damn if I saw this post in 2021 maybe I can make a master thesis out of it


    Also the stats are presented in a misleading way though,
    Although The top 1.89% of players based on number of slurs used contribute 89.20% of all slurs used, meaning that the top 1.89% of players, on average, used 428.7 times more slur than the rest, it should be noted that the bottom 98.11% of players by games played played 4.6 games on average.
    If we assume that the top 1.89% players (298 people) played 460 games on average, and that the amount of games played has an 1.00 correlation with slurs used, that would make the top 1.89% of players, by slurs used, only using ~4.3 times the slur used by the rest of the players on average per game, which isn't a very large number
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    ►►Re: How much toxicity is an offence?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    i'm impressed by how this game still have players despite half of everyone being so toxic
    Maybe people love toxicity and so they choose to play this game?
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    ►►Re: How much toxicity is an offence?◄◄

    I'm impressed by how this game still have players despite half of everyone got banned for toxicity
  4. ►►Re: The Chinese Room Argument, explained briefly◄◄

    Well first off the Turing test is no longer THE metric for determining whether some "AI" with quotations marks are indeed intelligent. This is because most if not all modern LLMs can pass it with no problem while it's widely accepted that these LLMs are far from being intelligent.

    Secondly your argument can be made to prove that humans are not intelligent too.
    Your ear drum get as input from the outside some mechanical waves; your nerves translates these waves into concentration of neurotransmitters like Glutamic acid. Your brain look up in the brain what you're supposed to do with those concentration numbers, and give back some numbers of Glutamic acid concentration. Your nerves then pass these concentrations to your muscles. Your muscles stimulates based on the concentration of neurotransmitters and create mechanical waves, which is a process an average mortal would call "talking".
    In this processes your brain is only dealing with different concentrations of neurotransmitters.
    Assuming your brain don't understand a word of english, your brain still pass the Turing test for understanding english; your brain fool the other person outside into thinking they really are speaking with someone who speaks english. All the same, your brain don't understand a single word of english.
    TL;DR:
    just because you can chat with others in english doesn't mean you have intelligence
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    ►►Re: *About the smurfs and ban evaders*◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    Sooner or later they get bored of spamming a join lobby button on multiple accounts for hours and things go back to normal
    You do believe that?
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    [Mechanics] ►►Re: Compilation of Bugs as of 02/2023◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Exeter350 View Post
    I added a new bug and replay as reported by Mr. Mostache.

    Marshall can activate group lynch twice within a single day.
    That's an old bug. judge can court twice and mayor can reveal twice too if i remember correctly
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    ►►Re: Imagine going to Vegas for gambling◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    some people play too much eu4
    Nah us EU4 players believe that romanians are closer to hungarians culturally
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    ►►Re: The fast start glitch and ramming through griefer saves◄◄

    how about we punish every mafia player for wasting time playing mafia and sentence them to 4 weeks of tree planting to save the earth
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►TheReborn: 1-S2-1-12761784◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    TheReborn: 1-S2-1-12761784

    Respective Hotkeys
    TheReborn: Crtl+6

    Summary
    TheReborn called out mafia numbers day 2


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    ►►Re: 1-S2-1-12724182◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ozkalukas View Post
    its way funnier when my boys are with me with similar ones, thanks mate, time to start dying night 1 like a BOSS
    what?
  11. Forum:Horrendous Content

    Thread:Is it just me or...

    Thread Author:JeremiahSablan

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Is it just me or...◄◄

    So I'm not the only person who finds the smells of perfume is worse than all kinds of other chemicals women throw at themselves...?
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    ►►Re: 1-S2-1-12724182◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What are these bugs?
    I couldn’t join certain chat channels, it says “you do not have permission to create or join these channels”. I contacted blizzard and they can’t fix it
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    ►►1-S2-1-12724182◄◄

    My old account has some bugs
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: MrFuzzy: 1-S2-1-10195915◄◄

    LOL no he's not a changed man. He kept joining lobbies to grief when he's on the BL, me myself have encountered it at least 20 times.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►MrFuzzy: 1-S2-1-10195915◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    MrFuzzy: 1-S2-1-10195915

    Summary
    MrFuzzy roles Armorsmith in slot 6 with name TauntNigger

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    {Watch List} ►►SuperDuper: 1-S2-1-876392◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    SuperDuper: 1-S2-1-876392

    Respective Hotkeys
    SuperDuper: 1-S2-1-876392: 8

    Summary
    SuperDuper: 1-S2-1-876392 roles Sheriff in slot 13 with name Zanipolo the Big

    Night 1: #13 the Sheriff writes 9 is triad in lw. He CHOSE TO NOT CHECK ANYONE. He was also roleblocked by me #10 Escort.

    Day 2: #13 accuses #9 of being triad. #9 is lynched, flips Silencer.

    Night 2: #13 the Sheriff writes 10 is triad in lw. He STILL CHOSE TO NOT CHECK ANYONE.

    As sheriff, he didn't check people the first 2 nights, but accuses 9 of being triad when he has no evidence. I think this is griefing.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: SecretMemes: 1-S2-1-12563558◄◄

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    SecretMemes hacking again
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►SecretMemes: 1-S2-1-12563558◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    SecretMemes: 1-S2-1-12563558

    Respective Hotkeys
    SecretMemes: ctrl+2

    Summary
    SecretMemes roles Sheriff in slot 4 with name God Save the Queen
    Is new acoount with 40k points.
    Says 5 7 13 in lag chat.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    5 7 13 are Mafia numbers.

    Additional Notes
    Hacking AND Bank Hacking AND Lag Cheating

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  19. {Watch List} ►►Re: Zorq: 1-S2-1-8471427; isOpenMinded: 1-S2-1-4475486◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by asdf2020 View Post
    never knew randoming is punished or intuition is.
    in that case you have to punish everyone.
    but well ...
    it's tauntshaman who is targeting me because we are enemies .
    I didn't even know, before this report, that isOpenMinded, BlackTartary, tartaryflood are all your smurfs
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Rust: 1-S2-1-12554583◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Rust: 1-S2-1-12554583

    Summary
    Rust roles Detective in slot 13 with name Tauntshaman.
    Is Trump's smurf. Spams the same thing as in the other report

    Additional Notes
    note the similarity in SC ID
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-12554584

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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    can I ask where you got the 80% from
    That's just the setup, bastard scale of 2/10
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

    The... the what? How is Bakura, of all people in this game, lurking? He may not have posted super content stuff, but basically nobody has (including yourself), so I don't think that's fair...
    Their first 10~ posts are unrelated to the game, hence, lurking. Plus people (you?) voted him before they posted and he didn't respond to it at all.

    Which would be what I would do if I were scum.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Hmm. I'd like to hear more from
    Aporia
    oliverz144
    Tauntshaman
    TheClowns
    10000JellyDoughnuts
    and
    Ashoka Tano.
    They all have around 5ish posts.

    What stands out to me is tauntshaman's made three posts, and all three of them revolve around "leads"
    Of course I'd be asking for leads, why, you want us to random vote with 80% chance of getting a Town out?

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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post

    @Tauntshaman what are you on about
    Like I said, voting lurkers. There's around 4 or 5 people who's inactive when I decided to vote and I chose the most active one among them, which is you.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    current voting preferences:

    10000JellyDoughnuts (1 [L-7]):
    jmw
    TheClowns (2 [L-6]):
    ewianking, deathworlds
    Mreevee (1 [L-7]):
    Drizzt
    MartinGG99 (1 [L-7]):
    oliverz144
    Drizzt (1 [L-7]):
    Mreevee
    Bakura1 (2 [L-6]):
    Marshmallow Marshall, Tauntshaman
    Aporia (2 [L-6]):
    10000JellyDoughnuts, Frinckles
    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-7]):
    MartinGG99


    This color = I very much prefer these to not be today's chop, for whatever reason.

    This color = I don't feel like this chop is a good idea, but not to a strong extent.

    This color = I'm fine with this, with slight preference towards whoever I'm voting within this group.
    And the reason behind you having a preference between today's tribute, without anyone saying any result from night 0's investigation is...?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    been a day and no actual leads so...
    I will -vote the lurker

    -vote Bakura1
    for now
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    anyone want to share leads? why did we start voting immediately?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    can i expect the game to start around 26th and end around 9th?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Setup is closed. We don’t know the roles.
    I'm confused. How do you play if the roles are not known? And what's "Set up is closed"?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Welcome! See the Game Details spoiler in the OP.
    I'm looking for list of roles and mechanics etc., game details only contains the game setup or did i miss something?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    /sign

    where's link to setup?
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Elru: 1-S2-1-6779434; Trump: 1-S2-1-12554584◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Elru: 1-S2-1-6779434
    Trump: 1-S2-1-12554584

    Respective Hotkeys
    Elru: ctrl+1
    Trump: ctrl+6

    Summary
    Elru roles Oracle in slot 6 with name Fedele D'Aquino
    Trump roles Detective in slot 9 with name Salvatore

    Day 1
    #6 accuses me #12 the Swinger of being DH, and tried to vote me up

    Day 2
    #6 accuses me #12 of visiting #1(died to triad)

    Both players were also spamming nazism throughout the game.

    Additional Notes
    At this point I think it's safe to say that Trump is a smurf.

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  33. {Watch List} ►►Re: Zorq: 1-S2-1-8471427; isOpenMinded: 1-S2-1-4475486◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Zorq: 1-S2-1-8471427
    isOpenMinded: 1-S2-1-4475486

    Respective Hotkeys
    Zorq: 4
    isOpenMinded: 6

    Summary
    Zorq roles Doctor in slot 6
    isOpenMinded roles SR in slot 1 with name Princess Amber

    Day 1: Zorq #6 role-quit

    Night 1: #1 SR drifts.

    Day 2: No lead. #1 SR accuses #7 Vet of being Bonker. #1 is lynched, flips SR

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Yes town lost majority immediately as 3 votes are lost. On night 2 there's 12 ppl alive, 5 town, 5 evil, 1 Amne and 1 Jester.

    Additional Notes
    Why am I getting a sense of déjà vu?

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  34. {Watch List} ►►Zorq: 1-S2-1-8471427; isOpenMinded: 1-S2-1-4475486◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Zorq: 1-S2-1-8471427
    isOpenMinded: 1-S2-1-4475486

    Respective Hotkeys
    Zorq: 2
    isOpenMinded: ctrl+3

    Summary
    Zorq roles Escort in slot 2
    isOpenMinded roles LO in slot 4

    Day 1: Zorq #2 role-quit

    Night 1: #4 LO watches #10 who was not visited by anyone

    Day 2: #4 LO accuses #10 of being triad. #10 is lynched, flips surv

    Night 2: #4 LO watches #6 who was not visited by anyone

    Day 3: #4 tries to make town trial #13. #4 is lynched instead.


    Was the Game Result altered?
    Almost, there's 7 people alive on day 5, only 3 were town.


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    {Watch List} ►►Trump: 1-S2-1-12554584◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Trump: 1-S2-1-12554584

    Respective Hotkeys
    Trump: ctrl+6

    Summary
    Trump roles Spy in slot 6 with name Huizong Jiannei

    Night 1:
    Mafia visits #1 and #7.

    Dat 2:
    #6 Spy claims Sheriff and accuses #5 of being Mafia.

    Day 3:
    #6 is trialed, made no defense, and is lynched.

    Additional Notes
    Please do not tell me this is acceptable behavior!

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  36. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    That said, it's a game of deception. To allow someone to report someone else for lying opens up an entire can of worms:

    1. I'm an liaison, and claim escort. Lag cries "ESCORT ISNT POSSIBLE READ THE ROLE LIST". Now reportable
    If escort is possible(free slots in roles list that can fit in an escortg) and someone is trying to convince noobs escort is impossible, I'm not against it.
    If escort is possible(expected count>0) and someone is trying to convince noobs escort is impossible(expected count=0), then it indeed should be reportable.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    2. I'm a witch and claim enchantress. Tauntshaman tells people that "ENCHANTRESS CAN'T MAKE YOU VISIT SOMEONE ELSE ONLY THEMSELVES"
    Which is correct?


    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    Asking SR for their car is attempting to prove a nearly unproveable role. There's nothing abusive about it. If someone wants to BS to get them lynched, it's literally the game.
    And doctor is more unprovable than SR, yet more ppl fake claim doc than SR. Why? Because people like you ask SR for car model, while doctor roles don't have unique UI text.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    Funny how TauntShaman, who has been SR at least 40-50 times that I've seen, only cries about that now that he got a griefing & reactionary gamethrowing report against him for his actions following this event.

    Only when it's convenient for him, huh.
    lol "only cries about that now". I've always been against asking SR for car model. Just ask @ChannelMiner , I called it cheating when he did like a few months back. Also, how the hell was I griefing & reactionary gamethrowing? By calling you a cheater?
  37. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    people claim the car model because it's fun flavor text.

    No one tries to ask people what word oracle feedback uses, like is it "divine" or "foretell" or "read the bones" or whatever because who cares? No one tries to ask people what sound their role made at the start of the game because who cares?
    No idea what you are talking about, Did you read my post thoroughly?
    Are you interpreting my post as me being against people claiming their car model to increase the legitimacy of their claims? How many 2.0 games have you played?

    People claim the car model not because it's fun, but because they are forced to. If they don't do so, they get lynched for "fake claiming" SR. And that is what I'm against.
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    ►►Re: Why I Started Playing Sc2 Mafia◄◄

    I'm playing Sc2Mafia because I can't ever get ToS to work on my browser LOLOLOL
  39. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    Have you reported anybody for it?
    C'mon aamirus you know how things are done here, if you spot a crime in a report that's not being reported, you add the crime to the report, you can't just let it slip because nobody is reporting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    Generally the person didn’t consider that they were being unfair and immediately stops once they’re told.
    NO, just come online and play a few games as SR, and try to tell them asking for car model is illegal on trial. Good luck on not getting lynched.
  40. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    It's been a rule since 2013 at the latest that forcing players to quote their role info verbatim is not allowed
    And this happens almost every game where there's a SR claim in the current meta, why don't I see anyone being punished for it?
  41. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

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    Mafia is a game about deception, of course, but that doesn't mean one should lie about game mechanics and mislead new players to gain an advantage.

    Suppose i'm in a game with a only 3 players, me the Mafioso, a Sheriff and a noob who's also town. I managed to get the sheriff on trial, and the sheriff says something like "n1 #5 ns, n2 #6 is Mafia", and then I proceeds to spam "LIES SHERIFF DETECTS CRIMES AND INVESTIGATORS DETECT ALIGNMENT, GUILTY THIS MAFIA SCUM". If the noob town believed me and lynched the sheriff claim, resulting in a mafia win, will I be proud of myself for being good at lying? No, I will be ashamed of myself.
  42. ►►Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    I've always wanted to post this, and with the 2.0 update this problem has been way more severe and is making the game unfair to new players.

    People asking Street Racer claims about their car model should be considered cheating. People should not ask Oracles, Doctors and other roles for the message they receive during night sequences either.

    Situation 1.
    I'm an evil claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I can't came up with an answer. What will most likely happen is that I will get lynched for being "fake SR".

    Situation 2.
    I'm a noob SR claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I can't came up with an answer because I never drifted and didn't know about the car model's name. What will most likely happen is that I will get lynched for being "fake SR".

    Situation 3.
    I'm an evil claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I chose a random one from my list of car models that may show up in game. Then there's a good chance I get innoed not because I'm real SR, but because people think I'm real SR.

    Do you see the problem? If people are judging SR claims by whether they can give a correct car model name, what will ultimately happen is that experienced players will just collect a list of correct car models and that's about it. No mind games, no strategy, no counting, no psychology. And this puts new players at a disadvantage.

    Oracles claims can have this problem too. If I'm a player who never played oracle once and is fake claiming oracle, I'm certainly not going to know the message Oracles receive upon divination. In fact, I was surprised that the verb "divine" is used to describe the action when I play oracle for the first time.
  43. {Permanently Banned} ►►CHUNGUS 1-S2-1-12482719; Pineapple 1-S2-1-11757733◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    afk: 1-S2-1-3151647
    CHUNGUS: claims to be pineapple, ban-evasion

    Summary
    afk roles Double Flower in slot 15 with name Shaunyan Long
    On day 2 he shoots #5 the Judge for being the first one to talk, instead of waiting for constable/crier/other confirmed town roles.
    Triad night chats shows that he's reactionary game-throwing because he doesn't like the save.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Constable was able to reveal and live due to Judge being dead and Triad having one less double flower shot. On last night there's 4 players alive, three town and one triad.

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    I have played ~50 to 100 games with killy since mafia 2.0, I can confirm that the easter bunny save is the one he has always been hosting
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    [Role Change] ►►Re: Poisoner and Electromaniac need Night Immunity◄◄

    In the games I played as poisoner, I can kill <0.5 person per night on average.
    IMO not only does poisoner need NI, but it also needs detection immunity.
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    {Unsolved} ►►Judge 1 day between courts not working◄◄

    Courted day 2 and day 3.
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647◄◄

    Why is someone with 4 games who knows everything about how to play the game only potential smufing, not confirmed smurfing
    Ans why is it WL*3, not Permaban until they come here and appeal if it's potential smurfing, like these ones:

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-12174892
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-12228661
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    {Watch List} ►►Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647

    Respective Hotkeys
    Gruppenfuehre: E

    Summary
    Gruppenfuehre roles Bus Driver in slot 15 with name Leone Costa.
    Stereotypical gamethrowing with only 4 games played.
    Knows the various game terms, e.g. exec, scum, -suicide, interro.
    Knows how to use log and -lw.
    I suspect this to be a Rachyl smurf.

    Night 1:
    Gruppenfuehre does nothing. DH executed.

    Day 2:
    Gruppenfuehre accuses #10 Constable of being scum and that #10 "did it".
    #10 is trialed and claim constable and will shoot #6.

    Night 2:
    Gruppenfuehre is jailed and called Jailor an Interro and that he's not giving info, and is executed.

    Day 2:
    Constable is forced to shoot Mayor.
    Arson burnt constable and Jailor.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Yes, 4 town deaths are caused by him on night 2 and day 3.

    Player Offenses
    Gruppenfuehre: Smurfing, Gamethrowing.

    Recommended Action
    Smurfban


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    ►►Re: Speed Reading. Debunked or Real?◄◄

    Logos:
    University students on the night before exams, assignments dues etc. would desperately want to speedread through their course material, especially those who study social science or law, who usually have course materail known as "cases" that are usually several thousands words in length.

    I took a introductory business course (mainly managerial accounting) back then, and I on average spends like 4 hours preparing for each case. And I have never heard of such thing as "speedreading", therefore it's fake.

    BTW, what's your background in congitive science, neuroscience and psychology?
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