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Subject: Sammygood
Subject: WindRider

Proof of Guilt: [url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16170&d=1393707476[/url]
There is not much to add.

Disccusion: Sammy can claim he mixed his lw with escorts. It may happen but unlikely.

Punishment: I kick you out of torgal clan forever until you prove you are innocent.

[color=#FF0000]CASE OPEN FOR 1 WEEK,SUBJECTS CAN CONFESS OR TRY DO DEFEND THEMSELFS IN THIS TIME[/color]

Subject: Sammygood
Subject: WindRider

Proof of Guilt: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attach...0&d=1393707476
There is not much to add.

Disccusion: Sammy can claim he mixed his lw with escorts. It may happen but unlikely.

Punishment: I kick you out of torgal clan forever until you prove you are innocent.

CASE OPEN FOR 1 WEEK,SUBJECTS CAN CONFESS OR TRY DO DEFEND THEMSELFS IN THIS TIME

No need to work for in game music. I would like to see that hard work go for bug exploration and fixing.

Anyone can close game music and open youtube.

No need to work for in game music. I would like to see that hard work go for bug exploration and fixing.

Anyone can close game music and open youtube.

Well in europe free accounts can play.

Well in europe free accounts can play.

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;432457]Another reason the rule was added was to stop a brewing problem of clans fighting each other on site.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that is a problem, people can also fight with each other we dont make forum inaccessible for humans!

[QUOTE]He explained why it's bad. We can't pick and choose what clans we want to advertise on the site, as it leads to biased decisions. So, we just apply a blanket ban on the situation to make it fair.[/QUOTE]

Then don't pick anyone. Allow all clans , even make a room for clans if nessesarry.

Originally Posted by AppleyNO

Another reason the rule was added was to stop a brewing problem of clans fighting each other on site.

I don't think that is a problem, people can also fight with each other we dont make forum inaccessible for humans!

He explained why it's bad. We can't pick and choose what clans we want to advertise on the site, as it leads to biased decisions. So, we just apply a blanket ban on the situation to make it fair.

Then don't pick anyone. Allow all clans , even make a room for clans if nessesarry.

I dont even get why people still arguing about this. Kicking an unwanted player is the best option. Period!

I dont even get why people still arguing about this. Kicking an unwanted player is the best option. Period!

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves]Unfortunately we do not allow for Sc2 Clan Advertisements on our boards. I must request that you refrain from doing, or encouraging the creation of, such advertisements in the future. Our reasoning for this is due to the number of Clans that have affiliated themselves with SC2mafia and cast a negative light upon us, I'm sure you know exactly what clans we are referring to in this case as they appear everywhere and ruin games constantly.


I appreciate your understanding of this sensitive issue,
Damus_Graves[/QUOTE]

Please explain this and allow clans to use sc2mafia.com esp if they are based on,founded on or mainly playing sc2 mafia game.

I did not even do a clan advertisement. I only opened a clan public topic since every week someone opens a topic about us here.

Anyways even if i am advetising it is stupid trying to deny any clan activity here.

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

Unfortunately we do not allow for Sc2 Clan Advertisements on our boards. I must request that you refrain from doing, or encouraging the creation of, such advertisements in the future. Our reasoning for this is due to the number of Clans that have affiliated themselves with SC2mafia and cast a negative light upon us, I'm sure you know exactly what clans we are referring to in this case as they appear everywhere and ruin games constantly.


I appreciate your understanding of this sensitive issue,
Damus_Graves

Please explain this and allow clans to use sc2mafia.com esp if they are based on,founded on or mainly playing sc2 mafia game.

I did not even do a clan advertisement. I only opened a clan public topic since every week someone opens a topic about us here.

Anyways even if i am advetising it is stupid trying to deny any clan activity here.

For town role it is useless unless there is a janitor or disguser active.

For mafia it will be extremly usefull that will ruin the games for town .

So in theory it is a good role but in reality it sucks.

For town role it is useless unless there is a janitor or disguser active.

For mafia it will be extremly usefull that will ruin the games for town .

So in theory it is a good role but in reality it sucks.

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]What is Torgal Clan[/COLOR]
-We are a clan that came together via sc2 mafia but also play other games together.
-Our member size is at 100 which is max. But we constantly kicking not-active players to open room for new players.
-We are at Europe server.

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]What do you do? [/COLOR]
We play mainly sc2 mafia. Sometimes other arcade game together. Also we did tournament of Heartstone.

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]How can i join?[/COLOR]
For now all you need is owning Sc2,contacting any torgal member and a free space for you at our clan. In future we can make restirictions if we have problem with new members but for now new members rarely cause trouble.

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]What is your Clan rules? [/COLOR]
Current Torgal Clan rules(shorted version for now)
[quote]
-Do not skype
-Do not cheat
-Do not game-throw
-Do not hard insult people.
-Troling is ok.
-Repick Torgal members.
[/quote]

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]What is Torgal Clan Goals? [/COLOR]
Our goal is to have a community free of Cheaters,Skypers,Hard Game-throwers under the name of Torgals.
We will do everything in our power so when you see the [Torgal] tag infront of a name you will know he is not a cheater for %97 probility.

[COLOR="#7fffc8"]I want to report a Torgal Clan member for any reason! [/COLOR]
You can use this topic
[url=https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/24297-Vigilante-Trial-Justice-Den-of-Torgal-Clan]Justice Den[/url] or pm to Xentios.
All you need is a replay(and SS in some cases) and a pointed finger at the accused player or players.
Thats all. Any skyper,cheater or hard-gamethrower with hard evidence will be kicked in 1 case.


[COLOR="#f2ffaa"]
[size=0]Disclaimer: This is a raw topic which can have false informatioın. It is like an alfa version of a game. Unfinished and full of mistakes. English may cry. Don't be a grammar nazi.[/size]
[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#fbffec"]question you ask may be answered amd added to the topic [/COLOR]

What is Torgal Clan
-We are a clan that came together via sc2 mafia but also play other games together.
-Our member size is at 100 which is max. But we constantly kicking not-active players to open room for new players.
-We are at Europe server.

What do you do?
We play mainly sc2 mafia. Sometimes other arcade game together. Also we did tournament of Heartstone.

How can i join?
For now all you need is owning Sc2,contacting any torgal member and a free space for you at our clan. In future we can make restirictions if we have problem with new members but for now new members rarely cause trouble.

What is your Clan rules?
Current Torgal Clan rules(shorted version for now)

-Do not skype
-Do not cheat
-Do not game-throw
-Do not hard insult people.
-Troling is ok.
-Repick Torgal members.

What is Torgal Clan Goals?
Our goal is to have a community free of Cheaters,Skypers,Hard Game-throwers under the name of Torgals.
We will do everything in our power so when you see the [Torgal] tag infront of a name you will know he is not a cheater for %97 probility.

I want to report a Torgal Clan member for any reason!
You can use this topic
Justice Den or pm to Xentios.
All you need is a replay(and SS in some cases) and a pointed finger at the accused player or players.
Thats all. Any skyper,cheater or hard-gamethrower with hard evidence will be kicked in 1 case.



Disclaimer: This is a raw topic which can have false informatioın. It is like an alfa version of a game. Unfinished and full of mistakes. English may cry. Don't be a grammar nazi.

question you ask may be answered amd added to the topic

[QUOTE=qfsgsdfgsdh;431723]I can see the other thread, seems like they genuinely want to play the game. But that was a month ago and we can still read those accusations. I didn't know it was such a big clan and that they accept anybody.

Maybe they need to do something internally, I'm not in favor of banning anybody outside the reporting system in place here.[/QUOTE]

We have interrnal ways and as long as people give me replays we deal with any cheater,hard gamethrower and REAL skyper. We kick them in 1 case. (unlike sc2 mafia punishment system)

[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/24297-Vigilante-Trial-Justice-Den-of-Torgal-Clan[/url]

For the swears and insults this game is not for low age people. Swearing and insulting is ok in this game. You are playing a game where people kill eachother please let them say "fuck you" before they die :)

Anyways i can assure you many high ranked torgal is not skyping. For me i have never heard the real voice of any torgal!(or any other guy in the game except my real life friends).

Originally Posted by qfsgsdfgsdh

I can see the other thread, seems like they genuinely want to play the game. But that was a month ago and we can still read those accusations. I didn't know it was such a big clan and that they accept anybody.

Maybe they need to do something internally, I'm not in favor of banning anybody outside the reporting system in place here.

We have interrnal ways and as long as people give me replays we deal with any cheater,hard gamethrower and REAL skyper. We kick them in 1 case. (unlike sc2 mafia punishment system)

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...of-Torgal-Clan

For the swears and insults this game is not for low age people. Swearing and insulting is ok in this game. You are playing a game where people kill eachother please let them say "fuck you" before they die

Anyways i can assure you many high ranked torgal is not skyping. For me i have never heard the real voice of any torgal!(or any other guy in the game except my real life friends).

evidence

evidence

Can we change the topic admins? So Dr won't waste time reading this?

Can we change the topic admins? So Dr won't waste time reading this?

[QUOTE=MoonAcE;430357]but its hard too for town sometimes to have a jailor alive in such a situation, maybe add specific win rules in a 2vs2, like if jailor is alive, town wins(since in most setups there is only 1 jailor, but 2-3 docs)[/QUOTE]

Well you forgot that if town in in 2v2 that means town is losing.

For a normal 9-3-3 game where 9 town and 3 mafia you say 7 townie died for 1 mafia which left 2 maf and 2 town do you really think town should win in a draw?

Originally Posted by MoonAcE

but its hard too for town sometimes to have a jailor alive in such a situation, maybe add specific win rules in a 2vs2, like if jailor is alive, town wins(since in most setups there is only 1 jailor, but 2-3 docs)

Well you forgot that if town in in 2v2 that means town is losing.

For a normal 9-3-3 game where 9 town and 3 mafia you say 7 townie died for 1 mafia which left 2 maf and 2 town do you really think town should win in a draw?

[QUOTE=louiswill;430687]Its funny how everyone wants to leave a footprint on this thread.
Maybe I should do it too.

Then, lets watch mod.[/QUOTE]

It is so trolish and absurd so everyone shows a reaction to it.

First of all at least %80 of skype accusations (including mines) are false and done cuz of hatred.

Afk system is good. THe only afk system i hate is the blizzard that kicks you out of game lobby cuz of inactivity.

And for the last one. If you can't think out of the box it is your problem sometimes you need a killing role not to kill

Originally Posted by louiswill

Its funny how everyone wants to leave a footprint on this thread.
Maybe I should do it too.

Then, lets watch mod.

It is so trolish and absurd so everyone shows a reaction to it.

First of all at least %80 of skype accusations (including mines) are false and done cuz of hatred.

Afk system is good. THe only afk system i hate is the blizzard that kicks you out of game lobby cuz of inactivity.

And for the last one. If you can't think out of the box it is your problem sometimes you need a killing role not to kill

Easy is easy guys- Yeah i am here to collect more hatred on me :)

Easy is easy guys- Yeah i am here to collect more hatred on me

Some ships are better for different play types.
Also winning in easy is easy : )

Some ships are better for different play types.
Also winning in easy is easy : )

I can clearly say my witch hunter is much better role

[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/25469-new-role-Witch-Hunter[/url]

I can clearly say my witch hunter is much better role

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...e-Witch-Hunter

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqw98A-FtLc[/url]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqw98A-FtLc

Well others toss them for me which is a shit. Never ever toss them. I would save them just for the nostalgia.

Also btw anyone has a spare g9 broken or not does not matter :)

Well others toss them for me which is a shit. Never ever toss them. I would save them just for the nostalgia.

Also btw anyone has a spare g9 broken or not does not matter

[QUOTE=cxx;429931]I'm pretty sure it's because a lot of people dislike you as a person and as a player. I don't intend to be rude. I am sure you will get better feedback on NA, or if you use an alias to file in the setups.

Other than that, fixed Jailor makes most setups nooby, relying on an easy town power role to win the game.
Why is there a DH in Under Pressure if he can't kill? A deceiver (more survivability) or a detect-immune forger (more utility) would fit better. Also, if you include a DH people will naturally assume he can kill. If he can't, it's misleading to include him.

I really don't like Town Government combined with a fixed Jailor. That is useless. You don't need Masons and ML without cult, Citizens spawn at a high rate from Town Random too, Mayor and Marshall somehow oppose Jailor since you can't jail and lynch at the same time, and Crier isn't exactly a pub role.

However, your setups are more balanced than most, so I really think that criticism has little to do with the setups.[/QUOTE]

Under Pressure: The only way to prevent a sk target and kill all triad is DH, that is why dh is in that setup. if deceiver could hide indefinitely i could remove DH and add triad deception or even maybe disguser for 1 time kill. Dh is basically Triad Survivor and triad need that the most.

Well Town Goverment and fixed Jailor is not that bad. Nothing else i can say about that.

I work hard for my setups and publish them only when i find them good enough for every role that is posibble ------except Chaotic Chaos which is a RNG setup and collecting info in low scale means nothing--

@Cryptonic Well i know there is so little room for scum to hide. This is why i am making town as weak as posibble. Jailor can't jail day 1, fixed Coroner instead of fixed investigator, amnesiac as a late game townie vs..
I can't add more random without ruining the "Uniqe consept".

For now i can allow any random to neturals, also can put a fixed citizen instead of town goverment since town goverment is towns most strongest point.

I believe this setup can work well without ruining consept. At least i will try hard for it.

Edit: I thank you for your feedback and your time!

Off topic topic about people dislike me disliking my job/art vs..
[quote]I really hate people that mix their feelings for any job or for their taste. If a painting is good it is good it does not matter hitler painted it. I don't care who says a song if it is good i listen it. I don't care what the singer is doing. I hate officers that use their authorizations on the people they hate or angry. I hate people who dislike a father also hate his son for nothing.
Well i could wrote more but my english sucks and don't want to bore you.
I hate you but i do not hate your work or your art. If they i good i say they good and appratice them.
I only hate you and only you.
[/quote]

Originally Posted by cxx

I'm pretty sure it's because a lot of people dislike you as a person and as a player. I don't intend to be rude. I am sure you will get better feedback on NA, or if you use an alias to file in the setups.

Other than that, fixed Jailor makes most setups nooby, relying on an easy town power role to win the game.
Why is there a DH in Under Pressure if he can't kill? A deceiver (more survivability) or a detect-immune forger (more utility) would fit better. Also, if you include a DH people will naturally assume he can kill. If he can't, it's misleading to include him.

I really don't like Town Government combined with a fixed Jailor. That is useless. You don't need Masons and ML without cult, Citizens spawn at a high rate from Town Random too, Mayor and Marshall somehow oppose Jailor since you can't jail and lynch at the same time, and Crier isn't exactly a pub role.

However, your setups are more balanced than most, so I really think that criticism has little to do with the setups.

Under Pressure: The only way to prevent a sk target and kill all triad is DH, that is why dh is in that setup. if deceiver could hide indefinitely i could remove DH and add triad deception or even maybe disguser for 1 time kill. Dh is basically Triad Survivor and triad need that the most.

Well Town Goverment and fixed Jailor is not that bad. Nothing else i can say about that.

I work hard for my setups and publish them only when i find them good enough for every role that is posibble ------except Chaotic Chaos which is a RNG setup and collecting info in low scale means nothing--

@Cryptonic Well i know there is so little room for scum to hide. This is why i am making town as weak as posibble. Jailor can't jail day 1, fixed Coroner instead of fixed investigator, amnesiac as a late game townie vs..
I can't add more random without ruining the "Uniqe consept".

For now i can allow any random to neturals, also can put a fixed citizen instead of town goverment since town goverment is towns most strongest point.

I believe this setup can work well without ruining consept. At least i will try hard for it.

Edit: I thank you for your feedback and your time!

Off topic topic about people dislike me disliking my job/art vs..

I really hate people that mix their feelings for any job or for their taste. If a painting is good it is good it does not matter hitler painted it. I don't care who says a song if it is good i listen it. I don't care what the singer is doing. I hate officers that use their authorizations on the people they hate or angry. I hate people who dislike a father also hate his son for nothing.
Well i could wrote more but my english sucks and don't want to bore you.
I hate you but i do not hate your work or your art. If they i good i say they good and appratice them.
I only hate you and only you.

Under Pressure and Double Trobule Feedback Request
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=419626#post419626[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=419624#post419624[/url]

Well i still don't know why some people don't like them except these 2 .
1-PM's off.
2-Triad cant attack at UP.

Other than that anyone want to add some feedback why they don't like them?

These 2 won't be changed even if they are deleted from sotd system.

I will also put a new setup , which is basicly 10-3-2

[B][SIZE=5][COLOR="#ffaa90"]T[/COLOR][COLOR="#ffd87e"]he [/COLOR][COLOR="#fff067"]U[/COLOR][COLOR="#ffd87e"]nique [/COLOR][COLOR="#ffd604"]M[/COLOR][COLOR="#ffd87e"]inds[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE=4]Role List[/SIZE][/B]
[COLOR=#0000ff]Dragon Head
Triad[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Support[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]Triad[/COLOR][COLOR="#33ccff"]Deception[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Sheriff[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Coroner[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Doctor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Jailor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Town[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Goverment[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Town[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Investigative[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Town[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Protect[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Town[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Killing[/COLOR]
Neutral [COLOR="#33ccff"]Killing[/COLOR]
------------------------------------------
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Any[/COLOR] [COLOR="#33ccff"]Random[/COLOR]
Neutral [COLOR="#33ccff"]Random[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#72f7ff"]Amnesiac[/COLOR]

[size=4][color=gray][u]Random Role Options[/u][/color][/size]
Triad Support and Deception- Allow All

Town Goverment- Mayor/Marshall/Crier
Town Investigate-Exclude Sheriff,Coroner
Town Protective-Exclude Doctor
Town Killing- Exclude Jailor,Bodyguard.
[COLOR="#ffd87e"]Any Random-Allow Non-Killing Town
--Citizen,Spy vs.. some roles has a high chance to spawn from any-random-- Their weights are boosted for this purpose. Still it can spawn other roles [/COLOR]

Netural Random-Exclude Killing
Neutral Killing -Sk,Arso,MM



[size=3][color=gray][u]Role Options[/u][/color][/size]
Amnesiac- Cannot become triad or killing role.
Dragon Head- Can kill without enforcer and immunie at night
Serial killer- Invul at night
Arsonist- Invul at night, Douse roleblockers,ignition alwyas kills.
MM-invul at night, can target self, 1 night between sprees

Cult excluded.
Auditor and judge have low spawn chances. % 5 max.


[size=2][color=gray][u]Other Options[/u][/color][/size]
Weight vs.. will be too long and unnessary.

[size=3][color=gray][u]Setup Settings[/u][/color][/size]
Night Start
Pm off.


[size=5][color=gray][u]Setup Code[/u][/color][/size]
[Spoiler=Code]
[/Spoiler]

[size=6][color=gray][u]EXPLANATION OF SETUP[/u][/color][/size]
9 solid town+1 amnesiac as a side-townie versus triad and killer and netural.

For amnesiac it is a little unfair if he dies at n1 or n2 since he is also considered as town but he can stay netural ofc. Other than that all roles have a good chance at game.

Game starts at night on purpose to eliminate N1 Gf ,MM jailings.

What i am trying to acomplish here is to make a setup where uniqe townies but still balanced for scums.
There is only 1 random town which makes hard to say lies for scum.
So far 3 town and 1 triad win i got(tested more but these are documented only). I can improve all bad roles but i guess only sk and Dh will need some.

I can also remove town killing and put a town random there. It will add more balance but will ruin the consept.
So what do you think?

Well i improved the DH and Sk. For now triad wins more which is good.
I still did not get a netural killer win.
Also why you do not feedback? "All I want" is your feedback!

Under Pressure and Double Trobule Feedback Request
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...626#post419626
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...624#post419624

Well i still don't know why some people don't like them except these 2 .
1-PM's off.
2-Triad cant attack at UP.

Other than that anyone want to add some feedback why they don't like them?

These 2 won't be changed even if they are deleted from sotd system.

I will also put a new setup , which is basicly 10-3-2

The Unique Minds

Role List
Dragon Head
Triad Support
TriadDeception
Sheriff
Coroner
Doctor
Jailor
Town Goverment
Town Investigative
Town Protect
Town Killing
Neutral Killing
------------------------------------------
Any Random
Neutral Random
Amnesiac

Random Role Options
Triad Support and Deception- Allow All

Town Goverment- Mayor/Marshall/Crier
Town Investigate-Exclude Sheriff,Coroner
Town Protective-Exclude Doctor
Town Killing- Exclude Jailor,Bodyguard.
Any Random-Allow Non-Killing Town
--Citizen,Spy vs.. some roles has a high chance to spawn from any-random-- Their weights are boosted for this purpose. Still it can spawn other roles

Netural Random-Exclude Killing
Neutral Killing -Sk,Arso,MM



Role Options
Amnesiac- Cannot become triad or killing role.
Dragon Head- Can kill without enforcer and immunie at night
Serial killer- Invul at night
Arsonist- Invul at night, Douse roleblockers,ignition alwyas kills.
MM-invul at night, can target self, 1 night between sprees

Cult excluded.
Auditor and judge have low spawn chances. % 5 max.


Other Options
Weight vs.. will be too long and unnessary.

Setup Settings
Night Start
Pm off.


Setup Code

Spoiler : Code :

EXPLANATION OF SETUP
9 solid town+1 amnesiac as a side-townie versus triad and killer and netural.

For amnesiac it is a little unfair if he dies at n1 or n2 since he is also considered as town but he can stay netural ofc. Other than that all roles have a good chance at game.

Game starts at night on purpose to eliminate N1 Gf ,MM jailings.

What i am trying to acomplish here is to make a setup where uniqe townies but still balanced for scums.
There is only 1 random town which makes hard to say lies for scum.
So far 3 town and 1 triad win i got(tested more but these are documented only). I can improve all bad roles but i guess only sk and Dh will need some.

I can also remove town killing and put a town random there. It will add more balance but will ruin the consept.
So what do you think?

Well i improved the DH and Sk. For now triad wins more which is good.
I still did not get a netural killer win.
Also why you do not feedback? "All I want" is your feedback!

SO what happens if i open a group like -mafia- channel via a map or other means i do not know.

Can i control who can enter to that groups?

SO what happens if i open a group like -mafia- channel via a map or other means i do not know.

Can i control who can enter to that groups?

[QUOTE=Casadoom;429882]What I think would be a really cool feature for crier would be having a "-pm crier" whisper that is not reported to the other players. Hence, the crier could actually report rumours during the night. It would actually make the crier an enjoyable role rather than a, mostly, 'troll' role.[/QUOTE]

Wow this can actually work. It is a good but raw idea.

It will be ok if only:

Everyplayer can send only 1 pm per day or night or 24 hours.
Silenced crier can not receive pms.
Crier will not know who is who.
Crier cannot pm back.

Not sure:
If it should be only day or night or only once for 24 hours but does not matter day or night
---I think it will be good if it is only at night!-----But i am not sure----
People can claim their real identity which would be basicly a unrevealed mayor who can get pms!
This can make crier an op role and also make judge a little less powerfull which is good.

CONS:
Another messy way to play and bad for noobs who play for the first time.
Crier can be a too op role.
Also this can ruin the balance for some sotd setups.

Originally Posted by Casadoom

What I think would be a really cool feature for crier would be having a "-pm crier" whisper that is not reported to the other players. Hence, the crier could actually report rumours during the night. It would actually make the crier an enjoyable role rather than a, mostly, 'troll' role.

Wow this can actually work. It is a good but raw idea.

It will be ok if only:

Everyplayer can send only 1 pm per day or night or 24 hours.
Silenced crier can not receive pms.
Crier will not know who is who.
Crier cannot pm back.

Not sure:
If it should be only day or night or only once for 24 hours but does not matter day or night
---I think it will be good if it is only at night!-----But i am not sure----
People can claim their real identity which would be basicly a unrevealed mayor who can get pms!
This can make crier an op role and also make judge a little less powerfull which is good.

CONS:
Another messy way to play and bad for noobs who play for the first time.
Crier can be a too op role.
Also this can ruin the balance for some sotd setups.

Really who does play mafia to farm points?

I think best solution is not to let a setup pass setup phase if it is over %10 failure rate.


[COLOR="#84f0ff"]So check setup when start is pressed , if it has failure rate over %10 print it and directly repick to another guy. [/COLOR]

This will not only fix this problem, It would also stop some of the random setup makers in pub games with no setup and no brain.


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Really who does play mafia to farm points?

I think best solution is not to let a setup pass setup phase if it is over %10 failure rate.


So check setup when start is pressed , if it has failure rate over %10 print it and directly repick to another guy.

This will not only fix this problem, It would also stop some of the random setup makers in pub games with no setup and no brain.


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Well it is very strange and i have no explanation how this happened at all. But i notice that his burn button was not red at the end of night 5.

Well it is very strange and i have no explanation how this happened at all. But i notice that his burn button was not red at the end of night 5.

Well not sure if sc2 editor has "a mouse movement capture" without it the best way is to put some code to buttons. Well let me test it first...

...testing.....

Well i opened a solo custom game. Stayed afk ,Used alt-tab , still nothing that indicates repicking me.

So i failed.

Well not sure if sc2 editor has "a mouse movement capture" without it the best way is to put some code to buttons. Well let me test it first...

...testing.....

Well i opened a solo custom game. Stayed afk ,Used alt-tab , still nothing that indicates repicking me.

So i failed.

Wow i forgot to upload this.

Ones i was coroner and my victim was visited by Dragon Head twice which was clearly wrong info. I am not sure but maybe there was a bus driver.
Anyways i also confirm this is indeed bug.

Wow i forgot to upload this.

Ones i was coroner and my victim was visited by Dragon Head twice which was clearly wrong info. I am not sure but maybe there was a bus driver.
Anyways i also confirm this is indeed bug.

You mean if you write fast enough you could suicide the moment you see you are blocked? If yes, yes i think that is cheat and not intended.

You mean if you write fast enough you could suicide the moment you see you are blocked? If yes, yes i think that is cheat and not intended.

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;429739]What

You can't gamethrow and play legit.[/QUOTE]

Yes you can. Be mayor ,sk and cult or cults left. Vote to kill cults. It is legit and throw at the same time.

Originally Posted by AppleyNO

What

You can't gamethrow and play legit.

Yes you can. Be mayor ,sk and cult or cults left. Vote to kill cults. It is legit and throw at the same time.

Well people want to enter Torgal Clan but we do not have room.

I saw -mafia- channel has over 250 members. So how can we also get rid of these limit?


Edit. Some googling told me that we should open a group.

Well people want to enter Torgal Clan but we do not have room.

I saw -mafia- channel has over 250 members. So how can we also get rid of these limit?


Edit. Some googling told me that we should open a group.

Actually this is a good idea since sc2 is free now made a commercial that is funny and gain Extreme player base. Which would also ruin quality : )

Anyways Since sc2 is free i can play mafia at eu when my local time is like 4-5 am. Before that you could hardly play in 2-3 am.

Actually this is a good idea since sc2 is free now made a commercial that is funny and gain Extreme player base. Which would also ruin quality : )

Anyways Since sc2 is free i can play mafia at eu when my local time is like 4-5 am. Before that you could hardly play in 2-3 am.

Ofc they play. But no they won't be your gf unless you look like these guys.

[url]https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=mass&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qL0WU5O9M4T-ygPkqIDACg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=601#pws=0&q=masscculine&tbm=isch[/url]

Ofc they play. But no they won't be your gf unless you look like these guys.

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=m...uline&tbm=isch

There is a basic rule that apply "sometimes".

If survivor claimed he is survivor in day 1 or after the jailor is dead. He is town friendly.

If survivor never claims he is survivor until he is trialed he will help scum.

There is a basic rule that apply "sometimes".

If survivor claimed he is survivor in day 1 or after the jailor is dead. He is town friendly.

If survivor never claims he is survivor until he is trialed he will help scum.

I think he needs to favor quailty over quantity.

I think he needs to favor quailty over quantity.

There is many ways to feed them. But main problem is why do you have a child?

Also i will report myself to social services and they will take away my child from me.

There is many ways to feed them. But main problem is why do you have a child?

Also i will report myself to social services and they will take away my child from me.

Posibble reasons:

-You are on watch list.
-2 player suicide night 1.
-Marhsall killed you.
-2 noob invest role framed eachother.
-You lose the game.
-You quit the game just before you got your points.
-You are a leaver.
-Your wife is upset.

Posibble reasons:

-You are on watch list.
-2 player suicide night 1.
-Marhsall killed you.
-2 noob invest role framed eachother.
-You lose the game.
-You quit the game just before you got your points.
-You are a leaver.
-Your wife is upset.

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;429226]The punishment for the players asking for watch-list removal will stay. 2 weeks of Watch List is a warning not to cheat again.

Unless you can dispute how a sheriff who didn't check anyone N1 can find a detect immune Godfather without a mafia telling him, this stays.[/QUOTE]

That is my point you had no evidence against msciby.

That sheriff could be skyping with other mafiso or even the dh himself!
That sheriff could be randomed to gamethrow and hit DH by luck.
That sheriff could knew who was 5, angry to him and just wanted him dead no matter what.

There is no evidence against msciby. He did not publish town an invests last night check info as veteran(while the real invest could hide) or did not constantly healed Dh as doctor.

[COLOR="#ff432e"]Even if msciby was skyping with sheriff you had no proof of him doing that.[/COLOR]
He is gonna take a unnessary punishment just because he is in the same clan with other guy.

Originally Posted by AppleyNO

The punishment for the players asking for watch-list removal will stay. 2 weeks of Watch List is a warning not to cheat again.

Unless you can dispute how a sheriff who didn't check anyone N1 can find a detect immune Godfather without a mafia telling him, this stays.

That is my point you had no evidence against msciby.

That sheriff could be skyping with other mafiso or even the dh himself!
That sheriff could be randomed to gamethrow and hit DH by luck.
That sheriff could knew who was 5, angry to him and just wanted him dead no matter what.

There is no evidence against msciby. He did not publish town an invests last night check info as veteran(while the real invest could hide) or did not constantly healed Dh as doctor.

Even if msciby was skyping with sheriff you had no proof of him doing that.
He is gonna take a unnessary punishment just because he is in the same clan with other guy.

Subject: Sninji

Proff of guilt: His real role is lookout.

Day 4: he claimed he is sheriff and 13 is triad luckily,13 left at the "same moment".--- 0.7 sec earlier.---
Day 4: Than he claimed 15 is triad.
Day 4 trial of 3:He claimed he is citizen now which would semi justify his trolling actions and fake sheriff claims.
Day 4 trial of 7:He again claimed citizen where 7 also claimed citizen.
Day 5: Real sheriff claimed his role and told town 9 is triad. 5 faked he is skyper and told town 15,11 and 9 triad via information from skype.

Disccusion:At best case he failed as a troll and moved the grey line and become a griefer. If town was not winning so ahead his actions could ruin the towns all chance to win. His actions and giving false information had no intention to win but only troll/grief.

Punishment:[COLOR="#ffa348"]ORANGE CARD[/COLOR] Shinji even 1 more replay like this or with even worse crimes you will be kicked out of torgal clan. This is your only and final warning! All your ranking inside clan is now at negative!
[COLOR="#FF0000"]CASE CLOSED[/COLOR]

Subject: Sninji

Proff of guilt: His real role is lookout.

Day 4: he claimed he is sheriff and 13 is triad luckily,13 left at the "same moment".--- 0.7 sec earlier.---
Day 4: Than he claimed 15 is triad.
Day 4 trial of 3:He claimed he is citizen now which would semi justify his trolling actions and fake sheriff claims.
Day 4 trial of 7:He again claimed citizen where 7 also claimed citizen.
Day 5: Real sheriff claimed his role and told town 9 is triad. 5 faked he is skyper and told town 15,11 and 9 triad via information from skype.

Disccusion:At best case he failed as a troll and moved the grey line and become a griefer. If town was not winning so ahead his actions could ruin the towns all chance to win. His actions and giving false information had no intention to win but only troll/grief.

Punishment:ORANGE CARD Shinji even 1 more replay like this or with even worse crimes you will be kicked out of torgal clan. This is your only and final warning! All your ranking inside clan is now at negative!
CASE CLOSED

You store your points in your own computer. Next time backup *.bank files. (if you ask me backup all folders about sc2.


Edit: correnction "MBank13.SC2Bank" file

C:\Users\----YOUR COMPUTER USER NAME----\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\100087213\2-S2-1-1016411\Banks\2-S2-1-182706


Numbers may wary!

You store your points in your own computer. Next time backup *.bank files. (if you ask me backup all folders about sc2.


Edit: correnction "MBank13.SC2Bank" file

C:\Users\----YOUR COMPUTER USER NAME----\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\100087213\2-S2-1-1016411\Banks\2-S2-1-182706


Numbers may wary!

[QUOTE=Oliver;429022]'if it seems like the community doesnt like noobs its cuz noobs suck and ruin otherwise good games'

Everyone begins as a noob and everyone was a noob once. Pros should be helping new players, not discouraging them and even trying to get rid of them, this is one of the reasons why your community sucks.

'go to tos no one cares, dont let the door hit u on the way out'

Thanks for providing validity to everything I said.[/QUOTE]

Nobody is trying to get rid of new players. I would help anyone who pm me out of the game.

But ofc i would abuse a noob sheriff in game if i am one of the bad guys. I saw many times bad guys had better lw then the real sheriff,invest...

Again this is an adult game. We gather together and vote to kill people! And we just don't kill them simply. We throw molotovs at them or out them in gas rooms. Not to mention people can write what ever they want in game. You may think only thing that sc2 mafia does not have is porno but it actually has it. Every time you block someone you actually make sex with them. We are not using "whore" in game because only blizzard does not allow it.

Yes i know mafia looks very innocent without any real hard 3d graphics like other games childs play now adays but this is what you do in game. Mafia is an adult game like many other games out there.

Originally Posted by Oliver

'if it seems like the community doesnt like noobs its cuz noobs suck and ruin otherwise good games'

Everyone begins as a noob and everyone was a noob once. Pros should be helping new players, not discouraging them and even trying to get rid of them, this is one of the reasons why your community sucks.

'go to tos no one cares, dont let the door hit u on the way out'

Thanks for providing validity to everything I said.

Nobody is trying to get rid of new players. I would help anyone who pm me out of the game.

But ofc i would abuse a noob sheriff in game if i am one of the bad guys. I saw many times bad guys had better lw then the real sheriff,invest...

Again this is an adult game. We gather together and vote to kill people! And we just don't kill them simply. We throw molotovs at them or out them in gas rooms. Not to mention people can write what ever they want in game. You may think only thing that sc2 mafia does not have is porno but it actually has it. Every time you block someone you actually make sex with them. We are not using "whore" in game because only blizzard does not allow it.

Yes i know mafia looks very innocent without any real hard 3d graphics like other games childs play now adays but this is what you do in game. Mafia is an adult game like many other games out there.

[color=#FFFF00]I really don't get why mscibby is on watch list. I really do not.[/color]

Xynablue is already kicked out of clan.

and well Thorgal did insulting in game prob he deserves his punishment!

I really don't get why mscibby is on watch list. I really do not.

Xynablue is already kicked out of clan.

and well Thorgal did insulting in game prob he deserves his punishment!

Joint Case

Subject 1: DjGoGu - Enforcer
Subject 2:alica - Doctor

Proof of guilt: There is no guilt. Only pety crimes .added replay.

Discussion: Alica made a foolish desicion and told who he is at the start of day 1. After that Djgogu used report on him. N1 djgogu also targeted him as enforcer. The funny thing is that alica also targeted Djgogu as doctor. Since there is no clear evidence who was djgogu ,this could be based on Djgogu being at Slot 1 and alica prob just healed slot 1 as many docs do at n1.

Punishment: Djgogu you are on my watch-list for abusing report system. Even if you use it as a trolling mechanisim on your own clan member or you believe it wont affect old players ,it is still a mechanisim in game and abusing it will only damage the Sc2 Mafia game.

[color=#FF0000]CASE CLOSED[/color]

Joint Case

Subject 1: DjGoGu - Enforcer
Subject 2:alica - Doctor

Proof of guilt: There is no guilt. Only pety crimes .added replay.

Discussion: Alica made a foolish desicion and told who he is at the start of day 1. After that Djgogu used report on him. N1 djgogu also targeted him as enforcer. The funny thing is that alica also targeted Djgogu as doctor. Since there is no clear evidence who was djgogu ,this could be based on Djgogu being at Slot 1 and alica prob just healed slot 1 as many docs do at n1.

Punishment: Djgogu you are on my watch-list for abusing report system. Even if you use it as a trolling mechanisim on your own clan member or you believe it wont affect old players ,it is still a mechanisim in game and abusing it will only damage the Sc2 Mafia game.

CASE CLOSED

Subject: Xynablue
Proff of guilt: Added as replay

Discussion: Night one does no action Day 2 claims 5(gf) is evil,triad with no evidence. At best case scenario he is gamethrower , mid-case is he is skyper and worst-case is he is cheater.

Punishment: I kick you out of torgal clan forever until you prove you are innocent.


[color=#FF0000]CASE CLOSED![/color]

Subject: Xynablue
Proff of guilt: Added as replay

Discussion: Night one does no action Day 2 claims 5(gf) is evil,triad with no evidence. At best case scenario he is gamethrower , mid-case is he is skyper and worst-case is he is cheater.

Punishment: I kick you out of torgal clan forever until you prove you are innocent.


CASE CLOSED!

İ think mafia is an adult game and an adult should handle this kind of things especially when they are not real!.

Ä° think mafia is an adult game and an adult should handle this kind of things especially when they are not real!.

Are you sure you choose the same save without making any change? I never get different chance as long as everything is same.

This gaved me different chances for example. Don't know why.
Town random versus Any random(that only allows town).


Edit:Correction it actually changes . I removed my any-random put town random saved. Than changed back and saved.
-count veteran was different now.

Even changing the order of list gives me different numbers.

Are you sure you choose the same save without making any change? I never get different chance as long as everything is same.

This gaved me different chances for example. Don't know why.
Town random versus Any random(that only allows town).


Edit:Correction it actually changes . I removed my any-random put town random saved. Than changed back and saved.
-count veteran was different now.

Even changing the order of list gives me different numbers.

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For all who says 30 sec is enough is so wrong. Sometimes even 130 sec is not enough to consider and read logs or even a conversation with a jailed/kidnaped person. If everybody was talking at night i would make my saves night lengt to 120 sec but ofc many role is not doing anything not even clicking a button so 40 sec is what i use.

Anyways i don't get " xen, you forget that not everyone is as experienced with this game" what you tried to say here? If they dont know how to use "-skip" others can tell them. At worst case this "-skip" wont be used in 2 or 3 game per 20 game or when people think they should not skip.

[COLOR="#ffdba1"]I think %100 vote need for night "-skips" is what we can have best, all other solutions also brings some limitations.[/COLOR]

For all who says 30 sec is enough is so wrong. Sometimes even 130 sec is not enough to consider and read logs or even a conversation with a jailed/kidnaped person. If everybody was talking at night i would make my saves night lengt to 120 sec but ofc many role is not doing anything not even clicking a button so 40 sec is what i use.

Anyways i don't get " xen, you forget that not everyone is as experienced with this game" what you tried to say here? If they dont know how to use "-skip" others can tell them. At worst case this "-skip" wont be used in 2 or 3 game per 20 game or when people think they should not skip.

I think %100 vote need for night "-skips" is what we can have best, all other solutions also brings some limitations.

[QUOTE=Boss;428435]So you're saying, every game there is at least one afk person that will not let the night end early?
I'm saying that this feature would help some nights, especially at the end game. but only if implemented on 100%[/QUOTE]

At end game it could work actually where there is 2-3-4 left. But for others you will hardly get %100 vote. Still even for 1 night every game it will worth it. But only with %100 vote pls not even %99

Originally Posted by Boss

So you're saying, every game there is at least one afk person that will not let the night end early?
I'm saying that this feature would help some nights, especially at the end game. but only if implemented on 100%

At end game it could work actually where there is 2-3-4 left. But for others you will hardly get %100 vote. Still even for 1 night every game it will worth it. But only with %100 vote pls not even %99

This is the one of the worst roles i have ever seen , no hard feelings :)

This is the one of the worst roles i have ever seen , no hard feelings