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    ►►Re: S-FM 210: Surreptitious: The Game of Spies◄◄

    Also did Jealous just come back to talk about the fake Real number I gave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I'm not some VCA expert, but there's >80% chance of scum being on the G3 wagon given that 4/5 members in the group have voted for it. Thus there is likely to be incentive for the scum to want that group chosen.

    (unless RLVG is solo scum in G3)

    I don't know wherever it's enough to make me reconsider though.
    Could that possible mean that group 3 has 2 scum in it in your opinion and are fine taking that gambit?
    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Nevermind, this guy is just a liar lol.
    ?

    With 3 Groups of 5 people each, it takes 8 to pick a group. 8 votes to lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    We don't know hidden mechanics so we don't know if there's a way to fuck it up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    If the special mech. is to change the rules of the game, I am going to lynch QT in the post game talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    We don't know if there's a hidden mechanic to add a modifier to roles such as "two actions at the same time" or perhaps "create your own group" allowing the Mafia to go 4-0-0 and hopefully trick the town to pick either 0's.

    Whatever Duck is potentially planning, I don't like it.
    Wouldn't it be just the 1st group left, since none of the others have mafia in it, therefore they would all be made into 1 group?
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    I think we have enough players now to actually be able to vote someone if group three goes. Since 3 is also the top wagon and we have just 45 mins roughly,

    -vote -Group 3


    Still need 1 more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    A group must be chosen by:

    [Countdown Timers Cannot be Quoted from Other Posts]

    or the day is over and mafia can kill anyone of their choosing.

    This is in the setup thread.
    So we need to actually get majorty for a group....
    Or day is over over if i am reading this right....
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    Also, such a claim would guarantee that an investigative role checks him tonight. Dunno why scum would risk it.
    Are you suggesting that he could be in a third faction?
    I was going to say claiming miller would counter it, but then realized we know he is miller by his word, therefore, we would flip any check on him.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post


    What is a Y-girl? What has grammar to do with anything? I understand behavior, but grammar?
    Y-Girl = Yurki or w/e her name is. Grammar meant posting style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    I ain't your father big boss. But I'm sure.....
    I don't get it.
    (r u going to answer meh questions?)

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Quote me the Miller rolecard from the setup, thanks.
    Apparently, there isn't one in the set up for this site in the set up......
    um..?

    But Millers are (in normal games) unaware and are given a VT townie PM. When checked by something like cop, they come back red. I've personally never seen a Red miller, but have seen aware millers.
    Quote Originally Posted by JealousTL View Post
    "You have reached a non-working number."

    LiAR

    SUS
    Hmmm,
    Try calling 1-866-531-2600 and seeing if that works.
    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    That's not true, I've posted plenty without an account.
    I started an account so I don't have to keep naming myself.
    On phone?
    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Can we go back to Duck that his claim is bullshit?

    1. A rule about win condition, but since he doesn't know his win condition then he can easily go against it.
    2. He's the only one that's actually mentioning something like this.
    3. You have to confirm your role for the host to start the game.
    1st one i have no clue about. Unless he has gotten additional win con like live till you get alignment > alignment goal.
    2, could be the only one if true? its a weird fucking role tbh to be in a game.
    3rd, doesn't mean he necessary knew what he exactly was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    lmao wut

    You bring up a player (who nobody here is going to know about), DON'T give context so that we just kind of have to guess at what you're babbling on about...and then you allow this other player's behaviour to affect your judgment of a different player's potential to be Town/ Mafia?

    I don't even.
    I don't care if your even. Be odd, its better.

    Rsoultin is a player with a very very very very very very
    *five days later*
    Very very very very similar post style as Y-girls posts. The way they type their comments are almost identical, their behavior they display when they are posting are identical (whimsy while being able to be flustered.) And rn now, their play as i look at it is similar.

    And yes i did, maybe when i do this i am to hasty, but from experience of playing off site with players that remind me of her, i tend to be right in that assumption that they/will think like her as well. So I did it here.

    If your want more context, you know where to find me.
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    You need a account to access it (QT), which will require you to make account or login in. If you don't have a account, your kinda f**ked.
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    posting this now since I can at least enter enter discussion. I've caught up, and just going to the posts i want to either comment on or have a question about. Prob get a read list soon.
    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    (you can ask others that everything I am about to say in this post is a 100% honest regardless of my alignment, would never be wifom and is 100% accurate)

    As town and mafia, I try 100% until the end. NO if ands or buts. In world of music, it was final 5, I was red checked, the town had auto and I fought for fucking hours trying everything in the book to win the game. I would be jovial as both alignments. I will say though IF I EVER ROLL NEUTRAL KILLING I WILL JUMP OFF THE FIRST BRIDGE I SEE IN REAL LIFE.
    .
    If your miller, there is no way in hell your ever going to be neutral, since there is no opposite of neutral (involved?) to come back with due to being miller.

    If you are somehow neutral, you defy the game.

    Good to know too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerape View Post
    Aww...shapelog already took the 'I didnt read the setup very well and I miscounted the number of mafia members play' I was totally going to use that so people would think never think I'm mafia if I didn't even know how many teammates I had.

    Oh, I'll use this text color so people passively think I'm town since town is green ^^
    Why is there always a Rsoultin on other sites ffs.

    Gingerape = Rsoultin = Satan.

    Moving on from my hate with playing with people who type like her.

    Normally, I be more sus. if someone basically admitted to premeditating to look townie like this, but i cannot tell if it is just ginger's character or I am right to assume. Since Rsoultin posts basically exactly like this in TL land, I going to not focus on it as much as I would, since it isn't AI for her.

    Also what do you make of the fact that I apperently "Took" your play? You better be careful, your grapes are next.


    ..uwah! I was just thinking out loud! >~<

    Mhm. I don't know which group to vote for..hmm...I'm sure that there's a 2/1/1 split! That seems the most fairest way to do it ^^

    So I guess any group at this point would be fine to choose....
    I know this a bit back, but how would all groups are ok to choose make sense if you think there is a 2/1/1 split.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    Blame MikeVipe for mafia game loading screen: Trust no one, except yourself
    But i went deeper: I trust no one, not even myself
    I already declared that every game i trust no one v(o.o(<
    God I am already getting PTSD with how much her posts sound likes satan's.
    I don't know who Shapelog and Alles_Paletti is, but wow, MattZed and Titus in the same group? And Klingoncelt too?
    Idk who the hell you are either.
    Want to exchange contact information?
    My number is (373) 874-9003
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    I actually like this plan. I can either vote to make it 4-4, or someone else can unvote to make it 3-3.
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    Oh we don't need majority to pick a group? Well that makes it less stressful, I would only had 18 mins to catch up and then respond to things too so thank god.
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    You know, When reading I got a idea and I was like: "Hey, Let's see what the other people in my group have done!" and I click on their filters. "since I know i am town, I should be looking at them anyways, regardless of what group is up." I say.

    Only me and fucking titus have posted >_<
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    Lol I forgot last night to vote. going to catch up before voting since it is 4v3 right now (mostly to see why it is split). Remember, we need 8 in order to actually have a lynch today.
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    Last post for tonight, getting tired from meds.
    Quote Originally Posted by JealousTL View Post
    I kinda implied in #1 that you, as a person eligible to make meta reads as a vet, would believe the meta to be scummy. #2, your analysis is exactly what I mean, I'm just giving further encouragement for people to generate discussion on such matters so that us newbies to the forum can have something to draw from. Seeing how defense/attack on different people splits has won me a game in the past in which I had no idea of what the meta was for anyone, so I would like to do the same here if the opportunity presents itself.
    Lol we were already doing the bold before you got here Jealous... well me and the C person was.

    Also why would a vet think the meta would be scummy? And if so, who do you make of C guy/Girl's want to get all the meta out there?
    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Tone/ emotional reads. Those would be the main differences between his town/ scum play. He's prone to raging as town and when he's scum, he has to live up to that and isn't always successful at making it sound genuine.


    I horrible at reading Tone in my mind. Emotional reads I am better at since it kinda is easier to see since it would effect their typing.

    Don't feel like quoteing so:

    K guy is here (or at least is looking at this page/fourm depending on how it picks it up) so idk why he is not posting. His post looked like he was trying to get something done, yet when it closed, he lefted.

    Can back Jealous typing being genuine. Should of seen it in TL.
    Eh screw it I quote again.
    ut in my experience on Team Liquid it seems that some people tend to give free passes to others based on style, for example. I don't like that aspect of an experienced in-circle of players, and therefore am just asking for people to stay vigilant.
    TL is honestly sinful for that crap d1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    Might as well share it, that or twiddle our thumbs and discuss nothing...
    Eh I share it, good mood so Why the hell not.

    It is a bit WIFOMy i will admit, but if you hated playing scum so much (as it sounds like from your posts) then upon finding out your mafia, your activity/Morale/Content should drop accord as well. Moreover, in this game in particular, i feel like you would have a hard time hiding your distaste for being mafia.

    It honestly isn't more then Tinfoil now that I written it down.
    Quote Originally Posted by JealousTL View Post
    It is natural to defend yourself whether you are scum or not; the veracity of the defense is subjective. Remember that judging one's own meta is a subjective exercise whereas the collaborative reads of others is likely to average out to the truth, statistically speaking. That means if someone is defending their meta as being X but you have experience with it being Y, and see others erroneously saying that it is also X, then they could be implicated. Would it make sense for those others to defend this player even if they were of opposing alignments? Would a person be more likely to bus their teammate or defend them? Just things to think about and to speak your mind on, in the best interest of townies who don't have the experience to determine these things.
    *Room Room*
    *Turns the bus wheel, Bus goes sliding*
    I mean my scum meta is littlery this post:


    About mafia defending others (since i now understand what your talking about kinda.) I can say mafia does do it, but it depends on the player quite honestly. It also depends on the context it is presented sometimes to determine if it is mafia defending or not.

    In this game however, Mafia kinda would be dumb to try and shut down the meta discussion, especially if they are new. Snice it possibly could give them more reasons to cast sus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    My post quality is going to be weak for the next several hours, I say this not as an excuse, but I will need to be more coherent to analyze posts by a player I have never seen before.
    That's fine, Still going to question you though :P
    I am relying on host meta because the setup said the game would be BALANCED. A mafia miller is unfair with the possible roles and setup, you can disagree with me, but I think it is a reasonable assumption.
    No set up talk is fine. What i am talking about is saying QT gave you/X player a certain role. Thats WIFOM since you don't actually know how/if QT did it.

    RLVG is a fine player, however in cat and mouse he ONLY posted troll comments and then went MIA for several days. Then I saw one or two more games where I believe he did not post at all? Other players who were in those games can comment on that, and what they think of RLVG's recent posting habits. If he steps his play up this game this is all out the window obviously.
    Ah, ok. It just sounded like the guy was trolly/a bit inactive.

    Def. if anyone can comment about the bold please do so. But I make sense of what your saying at least.
    I just discussed my thoughts on voting my own group. To your point, I like to play with skilled players who are willing to improve. In a recent game (qt.3.14) I went against lynching a very likely mafia because I respected their play and wanted to continue playing with them over other players who could have been mafia that I do not feel were playing as well. In this particular case I feel like lynching someone who is not going to post benefits the game experience whether or not it helps or hurts me in the game.
    I prob. try to check this if i remember.

    I don't honestly think I ever meet someone like that lol (leaving mafia alive.) The "lynching bad townie over maybe scum" makes sense to me as i def. have done that before. That alone doesn't really help me much with your alignment i must admit (other then if you don't do it) but nice to know I suppose.
    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I should probably put in my two cents on Duck's meta.

    A. He's prone to bragging about his FM play, references his own meta every other post, and flips on his reads a lot. This is NAI for him.

    B. He also loves his insane gambits...which is also NAI. Textbook example of this is in Instant Mafia 2.0 (only 700-odd posts and I think it showcases Duck's usual play very well)

    C. To call him an emotional player is the equivalent of calling the Prime Minster "fairly well-known in politics"

    Thank me later.
    What is AI for him?
    Quote Originally Posted by JealousTL View Post
    Open request:

    I've heard a few people stating their opinions for and against meta-reads. Since I have no experience with anyone here, will people be vigilant about meta? I am not a big fan of reading meta myself, but in this scenario where people have a lot of experience with one another, it could be a valuable tool. Sifting through the "he said, she said" is a tedious task but I have done it before to some success. So, in short, my request is that if you see something that rubs you the wrong way about someone in reference to their meta, please post it and be ready to defend it against the target's scummates. From what I see in the list of participants, the majority of you should be familiar with one another, so scum /should/ be in the minority if defending one another on meta reads.
    The bold makes no sense. #1 doesn't make sense due to that it requires us to know if the target is A scum, and b his team mates will come to his aid. And the #2 doesn't make sense due to that only working for players who aren't from this site. Basically #2 paints outsiders as scummy kinda.

    Unless #2 refers to vets which then doesn't make sense since any of the vets should talk up if wrong meta is happening.
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    I actually just thought of something about Duck, But if I share it, it might change the idea since it would become invalid.
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    Forgot to link these:
    [QUOTE=Calix;633311
    What situations would determine wherever you are more aggressive/ passive?[/QUOTE]

    My tone for starts.

    When I am aggressive, I am usually being a smart arse about it. Not in a bad way, just witty. And a course those posts tend to feel aggressive due to the post style.

    Passive i am more mellow and jokey. Kinda like when I ask about what you make out of the voting so far on page 1.

    it honestly very obv once the game gets going, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Hi Professor.

    None of us are your students.
    Hi Ms.Titus,

    I don't want your witty remarks.

    Well i do if they hold alignment related info in them.
    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    Here is what we know:

    1) If I am lieing, I am always mafia and doing this
    2) I will likely have cooridnated this in night chat already and my partner will be going along with it in some way or fashion?

    If you can find town or mafia motivation in what happened to me share it, and use it for or against me.

    I have stated many times in previous games that I DO NOT plan my opening posts or plays. I do everything as it happens, if you think that is alignment indicative then read me in that way, because guess what I can't fucking tell you if you are right or wrong about me.
    Lol, the way you are talking about it seems a bit nature honesty.
    At least in this post.

    @Calix Personally I feel our group would be bad to select because this site has a bad meta where activity is read as town. I would argue my activity and yours would make us "immune", do you agree with this, and what are your thoughts on that?
    Lol then share that with the thread.

    I will also chip in and say activity does not matter with my alignment, since i post like my sig. suggests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post

    Not only am I a SELF AWARE "miller" per say, but I DO NOT KNOW MY ROLE OR ALIGNMENT UNTIL THE END OF NIGHT 1.

    I had planned to vote on my own group, however since I do not know my alignment, I personally think it would be best to vote group 3 and lynch RLVG. There are too many players I do not know to risk going after new players, and I think it is better to see waht they have. RLvg has shown consistenlyy that he is posting below the normal threshold, and is more trolly. I think lynching him will be good for town regardless of flip. Also, I just pray others don't have the same or equally retarded fucking PM.

    This game is going to be extremely annoying for me because I feel it is as if I am culted. If I play as if im town (71.4%), and I lynch a scum, then find out I am actually scum tonight, I will be fucking livid.

    I do want to say that if I had to guess I am a town role because I do not expect that quick assumed me, and maybe others?, would claim this right away and if a sheriff green checks a mafia that is basically gg for town.


    WHY DOES HE START THE GAME WHEN I GO OUT TO DINNER.

    -vote group3
    Things about this post I do not like:
    This game is going to be extremely annoying for me because I feel it is as if I am culted. If I play as if im town (71.4%), and I lynch a scum, then find out I am actually scum tonight, I will be fucking livid.

    I do want to say that if I had to guess I am a town role because I do not expect that quick assumed me, and maybe others?, would claim this right away and if a sheriff green checks a mafia that is basically gg for town.
    If that was the case, you (if u are telling the thruth) would be unaware IMO. Aside that, Never rely on Host WIFOM period in the game (if u don't know what WIFOM means, it means Wine in front of me aka useless talk.)

    Also the top part is prob. the best situation you could be in if you were scum in this case.
    I had planned to vote on my own group, however since I do not know my alignment, I personally think it would be best to vote group 3 and lynch RLVG. There are too many players I do not know to risk going after new players, and I think it is better to see waht they have. RLvg has shown consistenlyy that he is posting below the normal threshold, and is more trolly. I think lynching him will be good for town regardless of flip. Also, I just pray others don't have the same or equally retarded fucking PM.
    So you acknowledge the fact that there are new players, then want to lynch who ever the hell that guy is for something those said new players aren't going to understand? Can you please be a bit more specif about RLVG's meta?

    What do you think of my posts since i consider myself a little troll?

    I had planned to vote on my own group, however since I do not know my alignment, I personally think it would be best to vote group 3 and lynch RLVG.
    You don't need to know your alignment to not vote your own group... You really don't. Yes, you might lynch scum if you are actually aware miller who is also a basically a mole without a def. alignment. Just look for sus. and be normal.

    Besides, if you care about if you hit mafia as mafia, and that is stopping you from voting your group, how is voting someone who not here any better for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post

    Might be how you talk but I'm too lazy to check for myself so I'm just going to roll with it.

    (it's too early to tell how easily we'll be able to gain a majority vote for groups so can't really comment there)
    Eh let me know if you want recent games (either from the site or from my games) since I got that tab open playing another game. I sure we can share past game links and such.

    As for the groups, eh, depends on how the thread feels honestly. If they rest of the players have a mob mentality, then it will reach it prob by tomorrow for me in my timezone.

    [QUOTE=Never Unlucky;633306]Excuses, ok...



    No, it's not a good thing.



    League of Legends loser, lol.



    Happy to see another person using GIFs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    -vote Group 2


    @Never Unlucky , You accepted a challenge to be your best. Lurking is not your best. You wouldn't even be trying, thus scumclaim.[/vote]

    I'm lurking, huh?



    I'm turned off.
    Lol, I never have played a moba, I just know the terms. Why isn't it a good thing for there to be people how i act?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Oh you think this is complicated? I eat this setup for breakfast.
    Hidden joke here,
    Breakfast SETS you UP for the rest of the day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Heads up, our ISO feature is a bit awkward to use, but we have an automated vote counter which is just at the top of the thread.

    How D1 goes varies a bit on this site. Sometimes you get a lot of trolling/ shit-posting to start, but usually we have RVS/ setup spec/ meta/ odd posts for the start.

    Not sure how this game will go at all, given that we have a lot of off-site players put together with some mod players and casuals. It's why I want to clear up any possible meta clashes sooner rather than later.



    If you're referring to pre-flips, then I'm personally not a fan of those unless I'm looking at independent scum-reads.

    I'll keep the rest in mind.
    Oh you guys have RVS...That explains a lot rn.

    It is also worth noting I have played 2 games on INTP Fourm's and 1 on OMGUS. OMGUS one is old though.

    Personally I never founded the benefit of RVS. Maybe once in a blue moon, you might get a correct scum read due to pressure that results from it. But A) Mafia knows about it, B)Decent mafia can Counter it IMO, C)Mafia gets careful due to it, etc. At least in my opinion they do.

    Personally I like approaching my sus. player with questions (which I try to predict the answer each alignment would say towards it) on d1 to determine their alignment better. Sometimes I am aggressive with it early on, other times I am more passive.

    Not sure how this game will go at all, given that we have a lot of off-site players put together with some mod players and casuals. It's why I want to clear up any possible meta clashes sooner rather than later.
    Reasonable enough
    If you're referring to pre-flips, then I'm personally not a fan of those unless I'm looking at independent scum-reads.
    Me either, that is why I told the newbies in the last newbie game i host how i felt about them and them doing them N1 without no scum flipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    If we have 4 mafia and only 3 groups then one of them HAS to have 2 scum in it.

    NU and I are the only people who have voted for Group 1. Titus voted for Group 2. Given that I voted first and NU followed me (nothing unusual there) I don't consider it strange.

    Why haven't you voted?
    Oh there is 4 mafia players rofl. I thought this was /m13.

    Oh I miscounted then. I scrolled up too fast.

    AS for not voting, I am honestly just going to put the vote on what ever group has the most votes when I get off (since I be back tomorrow if needed to change it), unless a certain player from a group really sticks out to me before then. That way we are more likely to get a group elected since we need 8. The only person I personally know is Jealous, and I never actually played with him IIRC (I hosted/cohosted games with him in it, and gave pointers etc.) so meta is kinda thrown out of the picture for me.

    I also see no special benefit of trying to rush a group into the voting stage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    This post gave me a Spruance/Mesk feeling...





    That is correct.

    You're neglecting the 'Traitor' wildcard which would nuance your post.

    Why though? Why would players who are safe for the day (i.e. they can't be lynched and feel no pressure) would be at their best?

    Side-note: You and I have a similar avatar, you and I have similar posting styles(from what I can see so far)... I, too, am curious to see your play.

    There are people like me in this game?
    YES!

    (I actually get better later in the game, much like a AD carry)


    Oh fuck, Traitors are in this game. I hate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Responding to my post with trolling. Noted.

    Moving on. Which site do you herald from and what's the standard 'meta' over there?
    Will see where that gets you.

    I am from Team liquids mafia subforum. I've played like over 15 or so games there, and currently in 1 like i said. If our database wasn't screw-up, I would say you could my personal meta quite easily.

    As a site, TL usually spends D1 joking for the first half, looking for tone/meta/questionable posts, and then goes into more heavy discussion later on. Its pretty active compare to other sites (usually in a decent game now a days, 40 pages per cycle) and a good chuck of people are narcissist or funny. Minus a few are try hards.

    Later in the day it changes with how the games go. I will say the site as a whole focuses a bit heavy on associative reads (I personally might breezily talked about 1 thought, but I typically wait till after a scum lynch.) and not enough of filter diving over all. VCA differs from person to person, case building is pretty good when looking at those players who been there more then 5 games.

    Jealous also comes from TL as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Nope. I find people are at their best when they aren't facing a lethal firing squad.
    I disagree.

    People need a Barrel of a 50. Cal in their face everyday.
    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    One of the groups has to have two scum, so either the scum will be inclined to vote for that group (because mislynching + killing a member from that group helps them achieve their win con faster) or they'll want to avoid it to lower the odds of scum being lynched. I feel like the latter is more likely though.

    You can turn off that if you go to 'settings' by the way.
    Oh they can different amounts? I just this was going to be like cell lol.

    Do you find it strange that Group 1 has 3 votes already given the bold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    >says he wants to start the game off
    >makes no attempt aside from saying "let's go" to actually get things going

    Strong.
    >Complains about not wanting to do anything
    >Expects me not to do anything to follow that up
    >Does something to follow it up
    >????
    >Profit
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    Yeah if I understand it right, there is 1 scum per group. Kinda like a cell mafia (where there are 5 cells, each cell has 1.) minus having a mayor decided the order the Cells get brought up.

    Also this part of the game is usually when people just post random things tills someone trys to bring discussion into the game.

    ALSO IDC IF THERE ARE NEW POSTS, I DON'T WANT TO REVIEW THEM SITE!

    GO AWAY, LET ME FREAKING POST THIS.
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    Lucky number 13 started the game boys.

    Let's go.
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    Oh i have to post it here?
    /confirm
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    I was just poking you gosh. If we were in a game right now, you would be top scum read for over reaction lol.

    I understand the mess I am getting into to as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerape View Post
    Oh this is for experienced people?
    I was kinda looking for a soft-ball game ^^
    There's not really any other games going on right now it seems >~<
    Nya.
    Lol,

    Its actually good to have some "experienced" players, so you can see what they do.
    Besides, half of playing mafia is being a extreme narcissist.
    Quote Originally Posted by JealousTL View Post
    Hello. I am surprised to be here especially given the explanation given to us, haha.
    lol i was just told "here is a game, want to play???"
    Well, QT put more words, but they were bland, and no gifs either.

    Overall, I would rate the invitation around 2 stars on Yellowbooks or Yip.
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    Wait,
    Jealous is that u rofl?
    (would actually make sense since QT did say he PM people who inspired him)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    Oh, I have a request.. If I know you from off site, I would very much like it if you could PM me who you are and where I know you from. This is a request, not a demand.
    Wrong move buddy.
    I like to be in the public Eyes.

    Hello, My name is Shapelog!
    We are from TL's Mafia sub-fourm. And I shall be playing the wonderous role(s) of *******!
    I am a roughly a twenty game fourm vet. with 300 or so games of TS and about 4 games of Sc2 arcade mafia.

    I enjoy long walks on the beach, pumpkin pie, and purposely leading people to their deaths.
    I also brew tea.
    /sign / /in (too lazy to look at OP.)

    Oh an apparently I somehow impacted the way QT/Quick views the world too.
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