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    ►►Re: EagleMan: Account ID◄◄

    Fair enough. Thanks.
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    ►►Re: Need your help - collecting rare ending screens◄◄

    Does the Stump get a unique win?
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    ►►Re: EagleMan: Account ID◄◄

    Ouch I didn't expect to be off by 3000. I did play a lot in June but I didn't expect it to be like that. I guess I did get a few achievements though but still. I suppose I was on a rampage for -prefer. But I suppose accurate point restorations come to those who report often. I might've played a few games with oops_ur_dead after that late May game, and he doesn't play much, so he might still have our replays in his recent files. I'll PM him.
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    ►►EagleMan: Account ID◄◄

    Account Name: EagleMan
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-505317
    Your Realm: North America
    Approximate Points: I actually remember it pretty well, I was about 300 points from approaching the 20k point which I was watching so I could prefer roles. My account is very old, only 6 digits, so that should help believability some. I'm not sure how close the replay is to where I remember being.

    This replay I submitted in May may be the latest replay I have. My hard drive completely fried itself and all attempts at recovery failed. My mod powers and ability to choose high level models/hats are still in effect though, but not all of them. My top access is currently Vizier Hat and Ugly Dog, but before I was able to access the Dark Lord model, the purple woman, as well as the Halo hat. Not sure why it's wonky like that. Hopefully I don't get set back too much... I was looking forward to prefering.
  5. Forum:News

    Thread:Which Faction do you think needs a new role?

    Thread Author:Elixir

    Post Author:EagleMan

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    Poll: ►►Re: Which Faction do you think needs a new role?◄◄

    Yep, it is the point. In fact having a Kidnapper is great. The most powerful Mafia roles to have besides GF are Janitor, Disguiser and Kidnapper. I rarely ever see the Agent or Beguiler be useful. BMer is kind of a joke, but sometimes townies will lynch a silenced person.
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    Thread:Which Faction do you think needs a new role?

    Thread Author:Elixir

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    Poll: ►►Re: Which Faction do you think needs a new role?◄◄

    Mafia/Triad definitely have enough I think. Too many of the roles are inferior to a few other faction roles, they rarely have their moment of glory compared to a more straightforward Janitor, Disguiser or Kidnapper. I'd rather they be more useful before going on to add more roles.
  7. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Zombie Suicide -still- bugged

    Thread Author:Sythierius

    Post Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Re: Zombie Suicide achievement bugged :'(◄◄

    I saw a variant of this bug today. Marshall activated. 4 people were lynched. In order: 11 (Jester), 10, 1 and 8.

    14, who voted up 11, was killed the next day for lynching 11. At the end of the game 10 and 8 received the Zombie Suicide achievement. 1 did not receive the achievement, and he did not have the achievement either, despite appearing to be in the same position as 10 and 8.
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    ►►Re: Audited Mayor still has his voting powers.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by AppleyNO View Post
    What I want to know is this:

    "If the mayor keeps his votes when converted, can you end up with a Mason Leader with extra votes?"
    I'm pretty sure that's what the Grand Master achievement is, being both a Mayor and Mason Leader simultaneously. I double checked achievements with Rev, and I doubt it's saying "Having been Mayor once upon a time, become Mason Leader".
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    ►►Re: Question: Can A Neutral Benign/Evil 'gamethrow'?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by louiswill View Post
    They can gamethrow. It is already part of the law half a year ago.

    Working against your win condition is gamethrowing.

    It doesn't necessarily mean you will be iron fisted.
    Yeah but how many people actually get punished? As I said, almost anything a neutral does can be construed as an attempt to win, unless we begin equating bad plays or stupidity with gamethrowing. Short of -suicide it's very difficult to make it clear you're gamethrowing - even trying to get yourself lynched can be construed as an attempt at playing Jester or a bluff.
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    ►►Re: Question: Can A Neutral Benign/Evil 'gamethrow'?◄◄

    Even then, generally no one cares as the neutral losing does not affect anyone else - they are not throwing the game for anyone but themselves. Short of suicide, almost any tactic a neutral does can be construed as a possible attempt by the player to win, even if it's a stupid attempt.

    At any rate, the situation you described is definitely okay. The Witch is free to favor any side they want, even in death.
  11. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Game throwing, help please

    Thread Author:duken

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    ►►Re: Game throwing, help please◄◄

    A cult member revealing the other cultists still counts as gamethrowing.

    You do not have to wait until the end of the game. The next time you play Mafia, notice that right at the start of the game, everyone's account number is listed. The replay does not have to be complete (i.e. you do not have to stay until the end if you're dead and the gamethrowing already happened) as long as all the information and proof is there.
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    ►►Re: Powerful new town role: Brain Surgeon◄◄

    The concept of role swapping is interesting, but there's a lot of problems as you describe the role.

    I wouldn't allow swaps with Town/Evil - the new Doctor knows who all the Mafia are and can reveal them. Game's over. Maybe only same faction swapping should be allowed - Town with town, Maf/Triad/Cult with their team, neutrals with other neutrals. Maaaybe Town with neutral benign.

    Would this swap names too like Disguiser?

    He might work better as a neutral role, sort of in the same vein as what the Auditor does in messing up roles.
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    ►►Re: Judge is missing major parts on the wiki◄◄

    Yeah the Wiki is in the process of being updated from outdated information. Thankfully it's a Wiki, and people have the ability to edit it on their own.
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    Thread:"Possible spawns" information.

    Thread Author:Arrow

    Post Author:EagleMan

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    {Implemented} ►►Re: "Possible spawns" information.◄◄

    It would be useful but as you said it's already possible. It's basically a buff for Town, doing more of the mental work for them. Which isn't necessarily a bad or good thing, it's just what the effect would be.
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    Thread:CreedKings is dead

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: CreedKings is dead◄◄

    creedking is kill
    no
  16. ►►Re: Have you ever said.. I am tired of ____Necro or etc well now's your chance to...◄◄

    Clan PEENER is all you need in this world
  17. Forum:News

    Thread:Raptorblaze is dead

    Thread Author:Raptorblaze

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    ►►Re: Raptorblaze is dead◄◄

    raptor is kill?
    no
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    Thread:Roles that aren't

    Thread Author:DeadMG

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    ►►Re: Roles that aren't◄◄

    Yeah, self-confirmables got nerfed. Criers and Spies can't so easily confirm who they are anymore.

    I will admit some Mafia roles are stronger than others. Getting a Janitor and Kidnapper is probably the strongest pair.
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    Thread:Wiki Madness 2014

    Thread Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Re: Wiki Madness 2014◄◄

    I had already seen some of it written that way which is why I continued it.
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    Thread:Wiki Madness 2014

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    ►►Re: Wiki Madness 2014◄◄

    I'll be doing more thorough reviews of the pages soon, for now I was just making sure each Triad role had their own page. I'll soon be going through every role. I'll probably be removing excess linkage too, it's too cluttered to have tons of bolded names and Sheriff or Investigator linked to for the dozenth time in a small page.
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    Thread:Wiki Madness 2014

    Thread Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Re: Wiki Madness 2014◄◄

    Triad redirecting to Mafia might be confusing for newbs who are trying to use the Wiki as a resource. If you're an Informant and go to the Disguiser page and read about Godfathers, Mafiosos and Janitors you might have a hard time understanding how it relates to the game you're playing.
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    Thread:Wiki Madness 2014

    Thread Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Re: Wiki Madness 2014◄◄

    A dark theme? Pls no. The Wiki as is is very legible.
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    Thread:Wiki Madness 2014

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    ►►Wiki Madness 2014◄◄

    The Wiki has again fallen out of date. We need everyone to help. I'm sure most of you are on, or starting, summer vacation. What can I promise you for your work! Nothing! Maybe Rev will make a benefactor achievement one day if you do enough Wiki work.

    Personally for me the Wiki has always been a pretty good resource. It lets me quickly double check just what exactly a role can do in the weirder circumstances, what Town Power/Protective etc. is, exactly how to unlock certain achievements, and so on. Do whatever you can, if it's from adding new content, to correcting grammar mistakes or adding strategies for certain roles.
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    Thread:Grand Master Achievement?

    Thread Author:Lumi

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    ►►Re: Grand Master Achievement?◄◄

    It's to be a Mayor and Mason Leader at the same time.
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    Thread:Grand Master Achievement?

    Thread Author:Lumi

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    ►►Re: Grand Master Achievement?◄◄

    Not a clue, I'll ask Fluttershy if he remembers what unlocked the achievement next I see him.
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    Thread:Grand Master Achievement?

    Thread Author:Lumi

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    ►►Re: Grand Master Achievement?◄◄

    Sounds Triad related, it's got the right font and terminology, I assume it'd be the Administrator replacing the Dragon Leader like how you get an achievement for replacing the GF as Consig.
  27. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Pacifist: 1-S2-1-3328741

    Thread Author:EagleMan

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    {Watch List} ►►Pacifist: 1-S2-1-3328741◄◄

    Account Name: Pacifist
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-3328741
    In-Game Name: Herpes

    Crimes Committed: Gamethrowing. Explicitly said he is gamethrowing, outs the Mafia, leaves the game.

    Your Account Name: EagleMan
    Summary: Pretty much what was said above, it's a clear cut case, it happens early on.
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    Poll: ►►Re: Setup of the Day Voting II◄◄

    So nearly all of them use an outdated version?
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    ►►Re: We have proposed a new role: Telephone Operator◄◄

    Seems like it would mess up existing night chat, like if a Mafia, Cult, Triad or Mason were targeted, or a Jailor jailing a target, or a Crier or Judge (because would they speak privately? Or the Crier would have to speak to everyone while talking with his connection?).
  30. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Bruno

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: Bruno◄◄

    too late

    I asked Bruno in his visitor messages and he said yes to me
  31. Forum:News

    Thread:[IMPORTANT] Gamethrow Rule Change

    Thread Author:AppleyNO

    Post Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Re: [IMPORTANT] Gamethrow Rule Change◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by AppleyNO View Post
    Fixing a mistake:

    [9:05:05 PM] Dark Revenant: "Gamethrowing is when you actively work against your victory condition."

    This includes every Neutral role. All new games fall under this rule.

    Please voice your questions and comments about this new rule change.
    How is this to be objectively assessed? Part of the allure of Neutral roles is that you're free to play with the meta, to play with people's minds. Sometimes this can backfire. From a third person perspective you can either look like an idiot, a gamethrower, or a genius depending on how all it works out. Sometimes I play to "lose" as a Neutral for the ultimate goal of winning, because I'm betting no one will want to waste their time/abilities on me.

    Say as Exec, I'll randomly call out a person different from my target in the hopes of establishing credibility. If they think I'm Exec, that means they think my target is y, when it's really x, so they think x will be safe to lynch. If they lynch y, and he happens to be evil, I have credibility now. If he's town they think I've won as Exec and they no longer have any reason to bother me, and now I can try to encourage people to lynch x. But how is a keeper supposed to know my intent, the strategy I'm trying to do? Especially if I die before I get a chance to push the lynch on my true target. It's impossible.

    It'd be hard to have many clear cut cases, short of a player deciding to commit suicide to avoid winning. It's pretty easy to judge when a person has teammates, because it's gamethrowing to involve your allies against their will in some meta plan, and it can possibly be skyping if you already have it arranged (with town, or if you arrange it with your evil faction outside of SC2 where Spy can't hear you). But both those are moot for neutrals so they're free to experiment with mind games that can on the surface look like game throwing, but those manipulations have won me many games before. And by god they're the most satisfying wins. And sometimes they don't work out and I just look like a failed gamethrower who didn't even try to win.

    Say the SK at the top of the page who vows only to kill whoever Town says. What if that's just a feint to stay alive long enough to win? I've done something of the sort before and won, and it was my gamble paying off.

    I was actually a bit bewildered to read your post Appley that you basically admit you'll only want to punish the failures. Does that really sound right? It fits into my point about intent: how can you truly know someone is working against their victory condition outside of very rare circumstances? The whole point of Mafia is the duplicitousness, the WIFOM, of betting that you're on the right side of the mind game table. Often the best way to victory as a neutral (mostly as a nonkilling) can be trying to lose. Depending on how strictly you enforce the rule, you'll be encouraging stagnant gameplay. Which makes it easier for a smart Town to win as the behavior of neutral players will be more predictable because they know they can't act too crazy without having it count as gamethrowing.

    But if DR's golden rule is incorporated into it, I won't mind, but of course anyone can feel like their game is ruined for any reason. And maybe you will only be enforcing it for the most clear cut cases, when again I wouldn't mind then. I apologize for this post if you're already going to do it that way, I just don't want to have to assume.
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    ►►Re: emos who wish they were like donnie darko◄◄

    I would be gay for Bruno
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    ►►Re: When was the last time you played a full house?◄◄

    I'm aware, I mentioned that to illustrate how one issue compounds with another. Since you'll usually have one ragequitter, that makes it even more difficult to handle people dropping, hence making dropping even more of a problem.
  34. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:What side is easiest to win as?

    Thread Author:Fubby

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    ►►Re: What side is easiest to win as?◄◄

    I would say Mafia is easiest to win as, but Town wins more often. An intelligent Mafia will easily dominate the game. Unless Town gets by on blind luck (i.e. random lynching or jailing a Mafia), it is really hard for the Town to overcome a Mafia that effectively coordinates and spreads counterintelligence. However a dumb Mafia will die pretty quickly if the Town has even 2-3 intelligent people with powerful roles.
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    ►►Re: When was the last time you played a full house?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    I get a full room most of the time.

    from personal experience, 6/10 = totally full (15)
    2/10 one or two drop
    1/10 more than 2 drop
    1/10 I cant connect at all.
    This sounds about right, but there are also the people who will quit over getting Doctor or something.
  36. Forum:News

    Thread:Hey guys, we have a subreddit now

    Thread Author:Rocshi

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    ►►Re: Hey guys, we have a subreddit now◄◄

    We can use it to go through Raptor's profile history to doxx him.
  37. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Last Will Key Glitch

    Thread Author:EagleMan

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    ►►Last Will Key Glitch◄◄

    Didn't see this anywhere on the front page and it's a relatively recent bug for me.

    When typing in my last will, if I hit the /? key, it takes me to regular chat. So if I try to type a question mark, it doesn't type the question mark in the last will box, it types it in the regular chat box. The same for the forward slash symbol, what state it's shifted to doesn't matter. This gets annoying because I may want to use a question mark (for obvious reasons) and the / key is useful for being concise as say, an Investigator. I.e. 2 is citizen/crier/survivor/etc. Or as a lookout 4/5/6 visited 1.

    Has anyone else been having this issue? I haven't changed my settings in Starcraft 2, nor have I gotten a new keyboard or changed my keyboard, and it's only been since the recent updates I've had this issue.
  38. Forum:The Display Case

    Thread:Filter Logs

    Thread Author:42shadow42

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    {Implemented} ►►Re: Filter Logs◄◄

    I think that's what he means. That'd be pretty useful if you're just trying to find a dead invest's words or something, or if you need to tune out some idiot that's been spamming up the log.
  39. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:crier

    Thread Author:Burnt Eskimo

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    ►►Re: crier◄◄

    Crier is one of those roles that's very powerful with a smart person and practically useless with a dumb person. Like Citizen.
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    ►►Re: This mod is dying? Mafia no longer in top 10 players!◄◄

    SC2 editor is kind of retarded
    some triggers that WC3 had are just gone in SC2, also it's very buggy, so it's difficult to just straight up copy something over

    Also doing the data work for a unit heavy game is a massive pain.
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    ►►Re: This mod is dying? Mafia no longer in top 10 players!◄◄

    Coding is like learning an entirely new language, except in that language if you make even the slightest grammatical mistake no one can understand what you're saying at all.

    "Your" when you meant "You're"? OH JESUS WHAT IS HE SAYING HE'S SPEAKING IN TONGUES (the map crashes).
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    ►►Re: This mod is dying? Mafia no longer in top 10 players!◄◄

    I think you should look at the technical complexity of Mafia and then think about the reasons why DR would not have done such an apparently simple thing.
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    ►►Re: This mod is dying? Mafia no longer in top 10 players!◄◄

    Yeah the development schedule pretty much aligns with university break schedule. So he'll have like 3 or 4 weeks for winter break between semesters, then summer break which is like 2-3 months. There's also spring break iirc that's only like a week, I get the same schedule as Rev since I go in the same college system as him and am in a nearby school, I just haven't really double checked what my own schedule is is.
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    ►►Re: WE DEMAND REPRESENTATION I STAFF MEETINGS◄◄

    i am eagle man man of the people
    speak your piece and i shall shake the heavens in relaying your demands
  45. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Heart of the Swarm beta key

    Thread Author:Apocist

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    ►►Re: Heart of the Swarm beta key◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    GIEF PLIS.
    Oops how could you let this place have auto playing videos?
    How?
    You don't deserve the key.
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    Thread:Heart of the Swarm beta key

    Thread Author:Apocist

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    ►►Re: Heart of the Swarm beta key◄◄

    RLVG, trading? Donating!~
  47. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Is going AFK reportable?

    Thread Author:Force20

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    ►►Re: Is going AFK reportable?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    I thought AFKing wasn't against the rules.
    My rationale is that if you're AFK then you don't get the points, so I will kick AFKers right before the game ends.

    Either way, if the person's been afk the entire game, I don't consider it punishable by watch/kick/banlist, it's just something that sometimes happens and I accept it, but they still don't get points for it.

    I would consider it punishable if a person suddenly went AFK right at a critical time, perhaps swaying the game to a friend on another faction or something, but normal AFK I wouldn't really consider reportable. Unless it happened in a Ranked game.
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    ►►Re: Game of Thrones erotica (NSFW, you've been warned)◄◄

    Shae, the prostitute who's with Tyrion, the actress actually used to be in porn and there's several videos online of her.
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    ►►Re: Proposal for alternative punishments for gamethrowers◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Necroplant View Post
    Since you used a bad word, I'm going to issue an equal retort, you faggot.

    ...that was it.
    Seems like you're shaping up and ready to be unbanned. Your crocodile tears are just spam.
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    ►►Re: Proposal for alternative punishments for gamethrowers◄◄

    Sounds like Necro just wants a way to be in the game again. If a person's on the banlist, they already know how to play, they just didn't care for the rules. We don't ban people for being stupid. No newb is going to be on the banlist.

    As said, there are potential cheating/trolling issues, and to take the measures necessary to compensate for that (as much as is possible - it's an issue that couldn't be solved) is a waste of Rev's time as the changes would only benefit those who have demonstrated a huge lack of respect towards the community.

    There's also the fact that it encourages banlisted people to keep playing games, which means they take away a slot from another player and it forces hosts to 100% of the time have to adjust their save down one person - in addition to the fact that there's usually a person who drops, this now makes for regular 13 person games when most people calibrate their saves to 14-15.

    As I said, newbs/dumb people don't get on the banlist. There is no reason to give benefits to those who have proved they do not care about the gaming experience of others.
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