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  1. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

    Thread Author:Iced_Monopoly

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    Oh my god. Sorry to invite myself, I'm definitely a better lurker than player, and I'm allowed to say: this game was so fkn entertaining to lurk

    Really well played by PTB, and sorry for Mesk as I choose to gut-side with her while reading.
    From what I've seen, PTB displayed true mastery of ethos/pathos/logos switches and misleading in general. /bow sir, you told you'll teach people how to play this game and you certainly delivered in the end.

    Mesk when I read your first wall I thought, what a queenly move lol, but damn you can also be harsh sometimes. I choose to believe the general rudeness is all gameplay and not meant (same can be told from PTB but in a lesser extend). Hope this game won't dissuade you from doing other walls like these someday.


    Anyway, peace & love nerds
  2. Forum:Closed Signups (S-FM)

    Thread:S-FM 238: Undercover

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  3. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Gyr throwed more than SCV imo if you define throw as "playing against your wincon"..

    I agree with RLVG here, misplaced witch hunt. SCV playstyle is what it is but I don't believe he's a thrower. As MM said, town just need to profit from the momentum he gives to daychat without voting with him.

    /edit to not confuse players of the new game
    PTB

    Well RLVG didn't post nightchat but maybe you'll see things differently if you saw it instead of just saying I've "shit for brains". While I'm "guilty" of not lynching Mesk D1, first you present it like it was an obvious play, when it is my 3rd FMF and it wasn't obvious at all, especially regarding my meta as MM catched, I never hammered anyone early w/o a fair trial, from my perspective the risk was potentially me instadying D2, and couldn't know for sure Mesk was TPR, you could suspect it a bit but it's easy in postgame to say it was obvious.
    Second, Gyr didn't hammered either and he's far more experienced than me (or am wrong?), so it's easy to blame me alone for scum loss, and I don't get how people can expect me to carry this alone (you're in the people Gyr, I still love you pal but god I should ask for replacement next time we're scum together)

    About hammering Gyr D2 I don't see how this would've been good, again he was l-1, Mesk said she was hammering anyway, I said I trusted Mesk as sheriff, now why would I hammer him except to "LOOK AM HELPING" and deny daytime to town (an obviously scummy behavior)?

    I believe you just don't realize there was different levels of play in this game and how this witchhunting attitude can be repulsive for new players. While you may believe you would have more fun playing if banning noobs like me or unconventional players like SCV, I don't believe so, else why you regulars just don't play your own games in a private section and build a meta impermeable to the outside?
    For that, and the fact you sounds like a reasonable individual, I don't think you believe having a player turnover is bad for the game.
    So, the way I see it, the games you're in it's up to you to speak sense into daychat and convince all how your thought process is so superior. The games you're not in, I appreciate any constructive criticism you could give really, but don't see the point throwing stones at noobs or SCVlike playstyle, again, if there was only one way to play this game it would be so dull, and the Mesk speedlynch story wasn't on SCV alone, she literally was l-1 with no scum on the train.
    I literally try to learn this game for this reason, there is no GTO, no good or bad way to play in itself, and AIs will suck for a long time before being able to win against humans in FMF.

    I'll try to not wall, my pov in a nutshell: SCV didn't throwed, I didn't throwed, Gyr DID throwed a bit but not by a punishable amount. The offense of gamethrow should be serious enough to not use it against every playstyle we don't like, and to not use it to corner players into playing a certain mainstream way.

    I'd like to be in Matrix really, I'd plug my brain on Mafiascum for a while and next game could say "I know kung-fu", but this isn't how real life works, you actually have to fail to learn and failing is not throwing.


    Now I let you focus on the new game, and HF with it, I for one will have more fun lurking than playing this one.
  4. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    @SCV @PTB Yeah maybe that was a big mistake, but it smelt so much like bait and was so early, didn't had the balls in the end
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    @Mesk fair enough lol.
    Once again, glad you did it just so Gyr lose.

    Hybrid, I can't believe it is always right, what if the scum is available on daychat but the town must log later because rl ?
    But there's certainly a lot of things I don't know et about mass claims ^^. Mod is very different on this

    I get the meta aspect to some extend, but like you said we're supposed to change thought process every game. I tried to did it to some extend in this game and I'll try again ^^. Deducing alignment out of "already saw him do it in this spot" should only be possible about not-so-good players. Cf " I actually used meta to my advantage [...]" bit of RLVG
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

    Thread Author:RLVG

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    @RLVG thank you it helps =)

    I think this biased pov was a mistake indeed, in my head it was basically, I trust mesk as Sheriff so I trust Gyr as scum. But the way I did it were certainly wrong
    Thought pushing the CC too hard would be suspicious, but I'm definitely bad at doc plays, even on the mod.
    Basically tried to represent a citizen trying to represent a doc, but I'm obviously not good enough for that stuff already xD. Said Nurse casually knowing people will know what it means, also to remember I already got lynched as Doctor but it probably sucked in the end too.

    @Hybrid
    Nice, thx too ^^
    Btw I blocked Nawa N1 so we could have killed Mesk. But no
    About idiot MM lol I don't think so, the day he's scum he'll be happy having an "idiot town" metagame ^^
    And I still don't see what Nawa did to look so town to y'all.

    Also I don't get this:
    doctor would have claimed d2 cuz i asked
    Why doctor would reveal here seriously, don't tell me the "first come first serve" bs was actually serious ?
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

    Thread Author:RLVG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Honestly, it just came down to the fact that everybody was basically sorted besides you. While I checked Nawa the final night (no clue if i was rb'd as i got no feedback) I knew if the day before I acted like I was having issues choosing my chances of being alive the last day would be larger... hence why i acted so goddamn confused. && while i was somewhat actually confused.... I knew I was going to hang you anyways.... buuuut, hey, we got to talk about my vagina for a bit.
    And honestly? I didn't believed a minute being capable of playing you on this, but I did was I believe the game expected me to do in that spot. So, fun times.

    The why you acted confusing is interesting, thanks for giving some +game exp =). Myself did that choice over the other (block nawa/kill you) bc I knew the MM/Nawa nave townblock would instalynch me but you would at least think a second about it as the #1 ladder queen lol. Afterall I saw him objectively hurt town this game as cit, ok scum was too bad to take advantage of it, but still, if he was totally obvious citizen to you, I'd be interested to know why
  8. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Gyr could just have CC'd Mesk as planned saying whoever is NS but Im the man. Instead he forfeited.

    Little I could do at this point really, I did what I could 'til the end, really not for Gyr but for host and players left.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

    Thread Author:RLVG

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    Yeah the Hybrid kill basically lose us the game, little I could do after that, especially Gyr going afk.

    I reread thread after saying ok for hybrid and bited myself, like omg am I this dumb ? But I'm inexperienced and Gyr did nothing to point the obvious.

    I'm actually glad town won, thx for not speedlynching Mesk, I least this last day allowed me to get some fun out of this game. That, and Gyr just didn't deserved to be carried here, I mean man, you know I'm uncomfortable playing scum and still you left me alone, didn't even reread thread to target mesk instead of hybrid, making it very obvious you were scum. Not cool at all, forfeit is bm.

    @RLVG how was it obvious I was his teammate exactly? He was obvious for everyone by his lack of commitment + saying in last postgame he always lacks commitment when scum. I couldn't bus him more and no bus could save me at this point anyway.

    Point mistakes at the very least just so this game don't feel like I wasted my time instead of AFK as gyr did
  10. Forum:Closed Signups (S-FM)

    Thread:S-FM 238: Undercover

    Thread Author:Mesk514

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    Looks like a fun setup but I'll just lurk this one. Unless you take like a week to launch it bc not enough players, but don't think that will be the case
  11. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    I am officially falling asleep. Was just the blunts for me.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    vagina-empowered scumhunt, I liked to lurk that, now it's happening.

    I'm okay for another round too, afterall consort must have a lot of nice stories about sex @Marshmallow Marshall


    More seriously you need to reread the thing from scratch and choose, there's little I can do at this point besides shitpost or talking about my rl and childhood. Look especially for his multiple citizen claims and tell me why would a citizen do that in this setup.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Also i dont know why im half retarded but yes men are the xy chromosome
    Probably cuz your clit. You'll never know the Y mojo.

    Also who did claim vagina exactly? While I lurked some archived games my reads were you confirmed vagina, SJ leaning vagina but overall very null, Rachyl vagina claim if I recall correctly. I believed Gyr was gay (that's not a sex lol) seems I missed a vagina claim.

    Admitted it's pure shitpost, but still, it's fun to know. I claimed male anyway. But as I frequently roleplayed as a girl on internet I know too well most of vaginas will want to hide it to enable normal interaction with internet people. In an environment like this it may be an edge or it may not, but in the average internet place, coupled with an affirmed opinion, no matter how fierce the pussy, good luck to her

    I also know there are plenty of guys who likes to pretend being a girl on the internet from time to time, so, heh. 'saul a game, not like it matters in the end 'cept for predators maybe
  14. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    LOL

    I love quebec.
    But I also love murrica and all globish cosmopolitan wannabe there is in the world.
    Mostly tho I love a gurl. So I won't be man enough to talk about my parts sorry.


    If I had a vagina I would definitely brag about it on the internet too, back in my youth we stacked po on Wow just pretending to be gurls lol.

    Also I choose the "mind over matter" school so I'm immune to your pheromones
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    You know xy is the female chromosome right?
    Are you american? EU afaik they teach us otherwise.
    Double X is a bit op imo tbh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Also..
    As a male

    Why the fuck would you shave your legs
    Pain is good
    Also I like them more this way
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I can't tell you because I literally never used a night chat... The only game I was in a scum team, I was the only scum in the team WITHOUT a night chat

    Also, tell me why are we watching the same god damn things, and playing the same games... WTF xD
    Maybe
    Spoiler : Videos are not allowed unless under a spoiler tag, and the video must not have any sort of autoplay. :



    You don't like french boys Mesk ?
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    I still love you SuperJack.
    And nothing happened.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Also I feel like this is going off-topic xD

    My thoughts are already explained on PIayer being scum. PIayer's position is basically that I am scum for being uhh... town-like? Mesk's position is that she must sit till EoD and judge... lol.
    Town-like is the word really, dear consort who didn't even wanted to visit me.
    You called for medic and medic gave you his throat. And you blocked Mesk because why not, she susp'd me so much, if I had been afk for irl in early I would probably just have been speedlynched and then trashtalked in postgame =/


    @SJ
    @Mesk

    MALE
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hmm... If that situation was happening to me and that I was scum, I'd just take my phone and post a quick message of two words: "kill nawa".... it's not time consuming XD
    Can agree with you on this, and go even further, technically scum don't actually need to log forum at all given they typically got a quickchat they can browser favorite during D1. I believe it became traditional in hosting just so someone couldn't be Citizen confirmed by not logging at all during night and so players focus more on the actual content. Just so you could also stay logged h24 during night, or jump in and out several times, all is null in the end. Correct me if I'm wrong? And I don't see what info can come out of this, except test my reaction but why one would lie in this spot (except rl terrorists/ Mr robot level hacker).

    (this can also be answered postgame)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    So why woukd you laugh?
    Because I try to balance my mind to think half male half female. Given 90% is the same. I firmly believe it is the natural optimum to seek.
    Some day I regret not being a girl.
    Some day I'm glad being a boy.

    Today I regret, so I giggled, officer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Are you not a she?
    Nature scripted me XY, touch if you don't believe officer.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    To further contribute to the inquiry I must confess I giggled at "she".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Lol. Maybe because "mens" don't exist?
    That's the level of stoning and also why I like to take massive time to write in proprer(sic) english
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I feel like your real life is just like your avatar...
    I really try to enjoy it man, but THIS GURL FCK
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Btw Mesk is doing the classic interrogation of the main suspect... XDDDD WHERE WERE YOU AT THE HOUR OF NAWA'S MURDER?
    I actually liked this too, I mean who doesn't like to talk about himself. KBG/CIA stuff

    But corrupted minds of mens in black never expect the pure truth.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    Today for me ? I was mostly depressed by love, and stoned, did a quick reread, shaved my legs for lulz, didn't eat so far, played wow. Recovering home so I was ready for early day.

    Still don't see how it's relevant as that was the night ig.

    Yesterday for me all day I was at hospital, scummy story but true. + depressed by love. In the evening I spent some time with disabled grandma.


    W/e the outcome at least now you'll know me <3. Rl is even more sad than this game.
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    Thread:S-FM 237 : Super Basic

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    12 and 18h in my timezone? Today ?

    Or yesterday when I missed the action D2 ?
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    6 or 18h ? Im not sure about the timing you're asking lol

    really you want to hear about my irl ?
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    The whole town is watching atm, no pressure ma'am

    please ping if there's anything, being logged =/= keeping finger on f5
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    Also I'm not from Paris, just in the timezone
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    Paris, France

    give me a sec =o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    You clearly avoided throwing Gyrlander under the bus. You should have simply hammered, and get some hope of town cred... :P
    Gyr was l-1 already and Mesk said she'll hammer anyway, why would I waste good daytime?
    Mesk still ended it too soon imo, her mind must be pretty set already, kinda weird for a "pro town" but maybe it was a test

    She won't read walls so why bother now. I'm fine with my actions. OK maybe I tunneled Nawa too much (missed what Hybrid/Mesk saw about him) but I just couldn't discriminate D2. You on the other hand really started to setup lylo this since day one, choosing Mesk as buddy and me as lynch target. And it was really well played, nobody can say you're inconsistent.

    Myself tried to be a bit more "scummy" to not always do the same thing, now maybe I overdid it but with last week rl it also had the merit of being convenient.

    Little more I can do at this point. If we win, cool I got carried. If she ML me again well, the whole meta shall remember, also it would be deserved for you tbh, you put much more effort than me in this. She may rage but I won't.


    On a side note, die but live long after that, I farmed Civ 4 so much, you just can't quote it shamelessly like you did lol. Still the best one in my heart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yay, lol. As RLVG just pointed out for us, this is MYLO. So, the Mafia, if has a little bit of logic, will claim Sheriff and try to mislynch. So before putting my vote somewhere, I am asking you: should we mass rolecall?

    If Mesk is really Sheriff, it means that the Mafia will know who's Doctor (I already claimed citizen earlier, and it's 3v2. Me citizen Mesk Sheriff The non mafia guy Doctor. It wouldn't harm the TPRs.)
    Wouldn't harm the TPRs, you said, "hard claiming" Cit
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    I'm still impressed by how towny you can look tbh ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    xD tryhard much? It's gg, and if Mesk is clever, she has checked you and found that you were Mafia.
    -vote PIayer
    so tryhard yeah, "if she's clever" maybe the sight of you pretending to not having read setup will make her reconsider who's the most fency folk.. You blocked her while killing Nawa, so she couldn't check me and tend to stay on her last post impression bc confirmation bias

    you already did this while pushing for mass claim
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    well obviously Im left alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    anyways, I'm pretty confident now it's PIayer... sooo

    1 - claims nurse
    2 - but didn't specifically claim until asked too
    3 - never came back after their last post
    4 - acted pretty fency
    5 - literally never came back after they posted...

    @Gyrlander , i see you online right now... I'm gonna hammer you.

    If it's not PIayer, PIayer, you suck as town.

    -vote Gyrlander
    1 Im last citizen, srsly why else would I claim nurse? Last chance to take the bullet, this mass claim was really dumb and Nawa/MM are to blame for this. MM believed Nawa, wp to him.

    3,5 well yourself hammered before I got a chance to answer, also was hard enough to actually be here trying to play this, I wrote shit and you didn't even read it?
    4 define fency?

    You say I suck as town but really why else would I claim doc? What would you've done in that spot? It was Gyr who was lynched and if I was scum it would be even more of a bad play

    -vote Marshmallow Marshall


    Damn man you started to setup your lylo since d1 and tprhunted, obviously you believed Nawa over me
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    too sleepy, I go

    MM you didn't answered on what makes you so sure about your read
    Nawa please say what you would say if you voted me.
    Mesk should you live, who would you check atm?
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    Said Nawa fakeclaimed, did you even read
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    Nurse, thought it was obvious <<
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    well I do my best to avoid making these, but it always feel I'm forced to at some point.. (here?)

    I really need to learn scv/hybrid's craft
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    Spoiler : after reread :

    Did in a somewhat chronological order
    First time MM pushed me:
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Ouuuh, this started fast...
    -vote PIayer
    Pressure vote on PIayer for his fast conclusions on Nawa's behavior. He is usually way more slow to vote and thinks about where he will place his vote.
    Well the sample is quite small for "usually", also I try to improve and change my play as we all should.
    That early, I said Nawa but could have been SCV or Gyr or you, anybody but mesk really. Just poking around, what else you expect me to do D1? And back then Nawa reaction seemed kinda healthy to me, had Gyr/SCV/Hybrid in my lynchpool when I left before EoD

    MM #126 strong town vibe from that post
    Gyr #182 #183 really not good vibe from that

    EoD is where things happened
    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    -vote Scvmurderer

    As i already mentioned, Mesk would be lynched if none/1 of the voters is scum. Therefore, she is either scum or 1//2 voters is scum.
    THEREFORE, lynching Mesk is more productive. I want someone to contribute on this thought.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    Or if you think you have enough info, let's lynch Scv.
    -vote Sсvmurderer
    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    Oh and yeah, i am Doctor.
    OK I missed that nvm
    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    Whoever cc this is getting lynched moffos, first come first serve
    Well

    Mesk is right, this was a very risky move from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The second scum is rather obvious, no...???? I am basically confirmed Citizen at this point. Also, we didn't "get you killed". The real Doctor will heal you. If he dies, that means that you don't die you can invest and reveal the last scum once Gyrlander is lynched. And who's the other scum? PIayer of course!!!!!!! Time for him to claim Doctor, right? I had noticed something weird in his behavior at Day One (read the very early posts). After I spoke, he became silent and utterly useless for the Town... It's rather obvious IMO. Nawa is very probably town atp.
    You gain scumpoints for this, fuck. If Nawa is the cit it would actually be well played of him, but it's so hard. Behaviour-wise you seems so legit MM. Not "confirmed" in anyway but still.
    The weird part is your in-your-faceness, why am I obvious, why are you obvious Cit, why Nawa obviously telling the truth? You would have all that information as Citizen, 16 pages deep? Susp idk, but really weird gameplay that's for sure.

    You tunnelled me since D1 because I haven't made big walls of texts and shit, but first there was few actual content to work with 'cept Mesk lynch and WoT or not I tried to talk some sense into the mob (almost the same who speedlynched me). Second you build all this on D1 shitposting + big expectations from me, but actually few content + very busy irl atm + like anyone need to try to change playstyle everygame to not become an open book. In that regard I'm glad I actually looked scummy to you

    It's so hard, you both gained town cred at some point, Nawa looked like he really tried to help with Hybrid stuff and his fakevotes. You looked like you really tried to contribute especially when the mob was on Mesk's ass.
    BUT
    to me Nawa looked scummy EoD1, sheeping with Hybrid but didn't took his responsabilities while doing so, like it was all built on Hybrid "enough info ok I trust you", like, trust him with what "info"?
    For the record Hybrid advocated no lynch D1. On top of that Nawa's the one lying.

    MM has some scummy bits like when he talks about OBVIOUSNESS and how this or that is so sure, all while not reading setup/missing obvious stuff. A bit jealous of that amount of self-confidence tbh, only thing I'm sure atm is the obvious Mesk cop. If we lynch Gyr he HAVE to flip scum else I'll be officialy traumatized by FMF. But regarding your "oh so obvious" meta, the few times I played with you you did this kind of crazy stuff, as town, so at least it's no scumflip. Genuine citizen is the most probable imo but hey, in the end I don't think I ever saw you play as mafia. In the end, either true mastermind or genuine citizen who helped to kill the sheriff.



    CONCRETELY this is what is going to happen. We're gonna lynch Gyr, he's gonna flip scum else game is over anyway.
    - Upon the death of the Mafioso, the Consort may use the factional kill while roleblocking.
    That basically means the last maf will be able to kill Mesk as by now he basically know who's who. Whoever is the last scum, it was VERY anti-town (if not scummy) to call for mass claim here. And a very gamble.

    At this point there is little more I can do, minds looks settled already. But at least you should also really do a full reread before the end, Nawa and MM both of you. For me, between MM and Nawa I'll bet on Nawascum for fakeclaim, but in the end can't know for sure and we won't because Mesk will die... Nawa looked more town here than the game I did with him when we were scum. MM never saw play true mafia, Masquerade/Exec don't count. Without meta basically it's all on behavior and that alone make me lean toward Nawa but MM is not far behind. Anyway thank you both for denying another sheriff check when we needed it most..


    Mesk you basically have a ~16h last will from now on, still enough time to brighten stuff, your opinion today may matter tomorrow

    Also @Gyr would like to read you today, despite behavior, despite the mob swarming around you, you still are entitled to a fair trial, please say anything if you're town else it would be gamethrow. If you scum I believe you won't lol.
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    I'm building a wall actually, what part ?
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    I'm back

    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    You excluded Gyrlander from pool with no proper reason.
    Yep, Piayer and Gyrlander, go.
    Read again, behavior was strange and on top of that he's been checked. He's in death row. Still a scum in the wild who will RB + NK according to setup

    Now between you and MM, I felt MM more believeable as cit. I go reread the whole thing again before voting, but that's the feeling I had.

    Will f5, will also try to pull what "case" is against me exactly
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    wow missed so much stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Lol. Someone said that (I don't remember who it is, sorry...): "Philosophy learnt this to me: what I do without being told to, other people do it because they fear the law". This is a probably bad translation, but you get what I mean there.
    you played Civ 4 didn't you

    hope youll still be there later for talk, susp me til you want but no speedlynches I really need time
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    back
    more busy than usual atm, quick post 'til I come back in ~4h fully available for interaction (ll try to f5 in the meantime)

    About SCV, well we all paid for his overall playstyle, tbh it's kinda sad as Gyr was already lynchable eod instead of SCV imo (remember D1 is ALL about participation)
    About Hybrid nk just, wow. He didn't deserved that. Hybrid was our beloved lynchbait. Fuck you scum for not targeting me really, I could just be carried and use the spare time TT

    Mesk honestly her overreaction made her probable town-loving-tpr since day one, what citizen/scum would do this afterall? Couldn't be here for the very eod but glad she didnt get lynched and I believe her claim. If it's scum play well gg it's too well done for me to handle.
    Gyr showed very little commitment, like in the game I did with him as scum, only redeeming thing I see is actually his vote on SCV. But it
    connects just too well with what mesk said

    It narrows the pool to MM or Nawa
    will do a full reread when i'm more available in a few hours, but so far my guts were townlean for MM and very null for Nawa but he gained some townpoints hammering SCV. definitely need to reread closely thread


    its a dumb thing to repeat but USE DAYTIME TO ITS MOST PLS, NO LYNCH TIL EOD, WE GOT A FAIR CHANCE TO WIN SHOULD GYR FLIP SCUM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    Lynch lynch lynch
    I can't atm.
    Can park on Mesk but by myself don't see enough evidence against her, ok she got defensive and said smth about you/mm sucking each other off, but defensiveness in this spot is NAI imo, I mean you jump into D1 with no way to confirm yourself, you find yourself -l1 + scv begging anyone for early hammer. Can get what Gyr said on that matter. I for one don't act this way in those cases (cf Nurse-me lol), but GURLS ARE AMOTIONAL BEINGS I LEARND IT ON WIKIPEDIA/OESTROGENS)

    Basically it's her or you, I don't think you'll be kind enough to craft a case about yourself, so. Yeah. Hybrid pov lose de jure, but will win de facto.
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    >3h left

    Looks like it'll be either Mesk lynch, SCV lynch or hybrid-sanctionned-no-lynch
    Tbh I'm a bit lost between those options
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    Simple thought about SCV

    Quote Originally Posted by PIayer View Post
    The question for SCV being, why exactly do you want me to waste 18h of daychat away + potential ML ? Meta case? Something serious I'm not aware of?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I want to change the EOD timer. I work during the EOD and wont be around for it.
    But rereading the setup:

    If players decide to lynch early, the day will remain locked until the intended end of day.
    Now it's always the same thing with SCV, he always looks scummy but on the other hand his "conversational" gameplay still profits town imo (as long as we don't allow him near any possible speedlynch, in games we did together he has extensive ML history). So I'm not sure he's the one I want to vote atm.
    If you're town SCV please who is your other scum should Mesk flip scum ? While daychat activity is protown, blind tunneling AND requesting speedlynch is indeed antitown.

    I really do my best trying to not confuse antitownness for scumminess esp we got Hybrid/SCV combo + liar Mesk + french MM. So I just can't vote on antitownness alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by PIayer View Post
    Simple thoughts about lynch/no lynch today

    Assuming Maf connects and Doc doesn't (if he succeed to connect with that shitty daychat, would be pro Doc /bow /mvp postgame really). First is number of scum, second is number of players. Also assuming Mesk is the lynch (still not a fan of the meta case against her tbh but it still works if you replace her by anyone):
    Mesk flips Scum: D2 it's 1/5 we're good
    Mesk flips Town: D2 it's 2/5, huge 40% scumrate we're NOT good

    Especially as we can expect multiple Sheriff claims tomorrow and chaos all over the place.
    Also if we DON'T lynch:
    D2 most likely 2/6 (66% > 60% so not that bad)
    BUT if we got two sheriff claim and we ML, then it'll be almost resolved:
    D3 2/4, autolynch the other claim
    D4 1/2 scum win

    Now if we don't ML D2 it would indeed change everything. Also there's still the Doc connection possibility so we can't know what will happen, but still we can make decent guesses.

    Need thought of EVERYONE on this matter please?
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