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In your own personal opinion, what do you think is the greatest gift that could be possibly received, or have been received, or be given?

People around the world have their own opinion about what really is the "greatest gift", so I'm wondering what the various members of this forum think it is. Some consider it to be (Insert notable religious figure here), being alive, or actually being a human and all. Since everybody has their own opinion on what really is the most important value in their lives, I'd like to ask this community to provide me with their thoughts and opinions on the values and ideals in life. I trust that the forum is reasonably diverse enough to provide a large range of insights. After all, everyone has their own lives and experiences, and thusly different values and ideals, and therefore responses.

So, your opinions?

In your own personal opinion, what do you think is the greatest gift that could be possibly received, or have been received, or be given?

People around the world have their own opinion about what really is the "greatest gift", so I'm wondering what the various members of this forum think it is. Some consider it to be (Insert notable religious figure here), being alive, or actually being a human and all. Since everybody has their own opinion on what really is the most important value in their lives, I'd like to ask this community to provide me with their thoughts and opinions on the values and ideals in life. I trust that the forum is reasonably diverse enough to provide a large range of insights. After all, everyone has their own lives and experiences, and thusly different values and ideals, and therefore responses.

So, your opinions?

1) Yayap
2) Claw
3) creedkingsx
4) Elixer
5) McJesus
6) Dimwit
7) CmG
8) Luna
9) Cmg
10) Ash
I think we shouldn't vote for ourselves....

1) Yayap
2) Claw
3) creedkingsx
4) Elixer
5) McJesus
6) Dimwit
7) CmG
Luna
9) Cmg
10) Ash
I think we shouldn't vote for ourselves....

/unsign
/reserve

/unsign
/reserve

[vote]oops_ur_dead[/vote]
properly now..
Wouldn't "voting" be fake-able?

-vote oops_ur_dead

properly now..
Wouldn't "voting" be fake-able?

[COLOR="#00FF00"]/sign[/COLOR]
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well, the replay sucks, but you should see they important bit (It's endgame, btw)
Also, my Battle-net acc got locked after someone tried to hack it :S (So nicer replays = X)

/sign

well, the replay sucks, but you should see they important bit (It's endgame, btw)
Also, my Battle-net acc got locked after someone tried to hack it (So nicer replays = X)

[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]-vote oops_ur_dead[/COLOR][/B]
Does " " and _ count as the same thing?

-vote oops_ur_dead
Does " " and _ count as the same thing?

Erm...
They're all in R&D, meaning most ppl can't see them -_-

Erm...
They're all in R&D, meaning most ppl can't see them

The day after the update including the strongman is sent to blizzard's update system: Mafioso ceases to exist....

The day after the update including the strongman is sent to blizzard's update system: Mafioso ceases to exist....

How in the world did this happen?:$
Voting for Unban :)

How in the world did this happen?
Voting for Unban

As long as the jester can only select the guilty players, I'm all in. :)

As long as the jester can only select the guilty players, I'm all in.

[QUOTE=Cryptonic;211061]Post a link please :O[/QUOTE]

[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/5384-LeaD"]Here you go[/URL]
:)

I think this means that users can be selectively included as VIPs, just as they can be selectively excluded from VIP status.

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

Post a link please

Here you go


I think this means that users can be selectively included as VIPs, just as they can be selectively excluded from VIP status.

[QUOTE=MintBerry Crunch;211049]so is the sight getting DDOS'd because it is sooooo slow for me but every other site works fine.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure we would know, by looking at the amount of guests.
also, its ROS, because we can still access this website.

Originally Posted by MintBerry Crunch

so is the sight getting DDOS'd because it is sooooo slow for me but every other site works fine.

I'm sure we would know, by looking at the amount of guests.
also, its ROS, because we can still access this website.

[QUOTE=Blazer;211026]Because you did not meet any of the previous requirements for VIP. So you had no status to be grandfathered in with.[/QUOTE]

I'm not so sure about that.
Several Users have less than 500 posts AND less than 30 rep, not a doner, and are still VIPs.

Originally Posted by Blazer

Because you did not meet any of the previous requirements for VIP. So you had no status to be grandfathered in with.

I'm not so sure about that.
Several Users have less than 500 posts AND less than 30 rep, not a doner, and are still VIPs.

Interesting.
A role that loses as a survivor..
what happens if he dies?
instant GG?
oh, and cue...

[BLACKOUT]Harder survivor version !:)[/BLACKOUT]

Interesting.
A role that loses as a survivor..
what happens if he dies?
instant GG?
oh, and cue...

Harder survivor version !

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;208748]even then its a piss poor excuse for a strategy. sheriff and doctor are typically scum claims. Citizen to.[/QUOTE]

I must remember to create a game made out of huge blocks of core town to bake 7 citizens and watch the rage and lynches start.
Honestly, it's like everyone simply has to own a gun or something...

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

even then its a piss poor excuse for a strategy. sheriff and doctor are typically scum claims. Citizen to.

I must remember to create a game made out of huge blocks of core town to bake 7 citizens and watch the rage and lynches start.
Honestly, it's like everyone simply has to own a gun or something...

[QUOTE=Reemus;208746]Just shout you are Sheriff and get some innocent people. works with me, but i am too cool.[/QUOTE]

That only works for pubs.
Granted, 60%-70% of players are pubs.

:)

Originally Posted by Reemus

Just shout you are Sheriff and get some innocent people. works with me, but i am too cool.

That only works for pubs.
Granted, 60%-70% of players are pubs.

[QUOTE=Blazer;208744]Yeah idk how many people have been removed, if any I am hoping he can post their names then we can find out..[/QUOTE]

It is possible that the people are actually placed on some sort of "approval list" and they just didn't make the standard.
maybe one of the requirements is "IP confirmed"?

Originally Posted by Blazer

Yeah idk how many people have been removed, if any I am hoping he can post their names then we can find out..

It is possible that the people are actually placed on some sort of "approval list" and they just didn't make the standard.
maybe one of the requirements is "IP confirmed"?

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;208737]Actually i have a question. I noticed some people met the requirements for VIP, but were not given that status. why ?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps they were specifically *removed* from VIP?
The mods did say they CAN do it, and it was on a warning sign with "do not leak on it*

Odd, because no one is really leaking things at the moment, at least not with threads..

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

Actually i have a question. I noticed some people met the requirements for VIP, but were not given that status. why ?

Perhaps they were specifically *removed* from VIP?
The mods did say they CAN do it, and it was on a warning sign with "do not leak on it*

Odd, because no one is really leaking things at the moment, at least not with threads..

Can a mod /thread this already?

EDIT: oh wait it's 2 days...

EDIT2: Not very nice there, Blazer..

Can a mod /thread this already?

EDIT: oh wait it's 2 days...

EDIT2: Not very nice there, Blazer..

From what I see about the topic, the problem is that trolls basically throw away victories.

3 minutes longer isn't an issue, losing the game because of an AFKer is a problem.

Or am I mis-reading something?

From what I see about the topic, the problem is that trolls basically throw away victories.

3 minutes longer isn't an issue, losing the game because of an AFKer is a problem.

Or am I mis-reading something?

Made some slight adjustments to the formula.

It should now account for every.possible.situation and is 100% fair :)

Made some slight adjustments to the formula.

It should now account for every.possible.situation and is 100% fair

I think what would be needed would be something like:

"[COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia[/COLOR] Players" > "Alive Non-Mafia Killers"^2 = TRUE
AND
"[COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia[/COLOR] Players" > "Alive Players" - "[COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia[/COLOR] Players" = TRUE
AND
Alive [COLOR="#00FF00"]Citizens[/COLOR] = 0 OR "[COLOR="#00FF00"]Citizens[/COLOR] win ties" = FALSE
THEN
Proceed to "[COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia Victory[/COLOR]"

That would easily finish it.
What I mean by "Alive Non-Mafia Killers^2"
Is number of all living killers (Including vigilantes,jailers,jesters, bus-drivers,witches,SKs,MMs...) squared.

It should also include all players that could THEORETICALLY assist in the killing of someone.

Anyways, it can't be THAT hard to code it in.

I think what would be needed would be something like:

"Mafia Players" > "Alive Non-Mafia Killers"^2 = TRUE
AND
"Mafia Players" > "Alive Players" - "Mafia Players" = TRUE
AND
Alive Citizens = 0 OR "Citizens win ties" = FALSE
THEN
Proceed to "Mafia Victory"

That would easily finish it.
What I mean by "Alive Non-Mafia Killers^2"
Is number of all living killers (Including vigilantes,jailers,jesters, bus-drivers,witches,SKs,MMs...) squared.

It should also include all players that could THEORETICALLY assist in the killing of someone.

Anyways, it can't be THAT hard to code it in.

But the gangs doesn't want weed legalized because legit people can sell = serious undercut in profit

And: Guns to the public?

In America, that includes that psychopath, white/black/(insert color here) supremacist, insane dude, convicted rapist and that terrorist down the street.... last I checked.

But the gangs doesn't want weed legalized because legit people can sell = serious undercut in profit

And: Guns to the public?

In America, that includes that psychopath, white/black/(insert color here) supremacist, insane dude, convicted rapist and that terrorist down the street.... last I checked.

+1
Agree!

I hate playing with trolls that kill my games in this way.

+1
Agree!

I hate playing with trolls that kill my games in this way.

[QUOTE=Chane;202449]I am french and I have to [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]warm[/COLOR][/B] you, you ain't my gf o.0[/QUOTE]

mmmmm
cozy :)

French noobs cant possibly be that bad.
They will be slowly be absorbed into the pro community.
...
...

[COLOR="#00FF00"][B]You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.[/B][/COLOR]

Originally Posted by Chane

I am french and I have to warm you, you ain't my gf o.0

mmmmm
cozy

French noobs cant possibly be that bad.
They will be slowly be absorbed into the pro community.
...
...

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

option B.
Drugs aren't all that bad, when you compare em to guns.

Anyways, I would feel scared that anyone around me could just shoot.

Just play a game of 12 vigilantes, 12 mafioso. Bloodbath.

option B.
Drugs aren't all that bad, when you compare em to guns.

Anyways, I would feel scared that anyone around me could just shoot.

Just play a game of 12 vigilantes, 12 mafioso. Bloodbath.

They don't like Ambient the way you don't like the police officer that just arrested you :)

They don't like Ambient the way you don't like the police officer that just arrested you

[QUOTE=Glip;200582]I find it interesting that every single person here who's taken the quiz got a result in the same region of lightly leftist/libertarian.[/QUOTE]

I think that may have something to do with the type of people who come to the forums.

I think we should ask a "ordinary american" and a "ordinary european" to take these tests.

Originally Posted by Glip

I find it interesting that every single person here who's taken the quiz got a result in the same region of lightly leftist/libertarian.

I think that may have something to do with the type of people who come to the forums.

I think we should ask a "ordinary american" and a "ordinary european" to take these tests.

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Well..

Closest to the Dalai Lama :)

Well..

Closest to the Dalai Lama

[QUOTE=Dark.Revenant;200371]14+: Your setup is shit.[/QUOTE]
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Implement this!
Please!

Originally Posted by Dark.Revenant

14+: Your setup is shit.

Implement this!
Please!

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;200132]The reason people (including me) have fussed over it is rep power. It contributes towards it.

I think this thread is properly dead. /thread?[/QUOTE]

Yes, /thread it before the farming begins.
I think the problem may have something to do with moderation (I was -repped before for serious post farming before..but i don't think this happens now)

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

The reason people (including me) have fussed over it is rep power. It contributes towards it.

I think this thread is properly dead. /thread?

Yes, /thread it before the farming begins.
I think the problem may have something to do with moderation (I was -repped before for serious post farming before..but i don't think this happens now)

Welcome!
Just so you're aware, creating a "hello" thread is asking for trolls.
:)
Do good and nothing wrong will happen.Probably.

@Damus
They're speaking in arabic.

@creed
The threat of nuclear weapons is enough, no?
I mean: the 1% chance they are making/have a nuke is obviously bad.
With the media....

Google translate says:
جوجل ترجمة يقول:

أهلا وسهلا!
فقط لذلك كنت على علم، وخلق "مرحبا" الموضوع يسأل عن المتصيدون.
:)
فعل الخير وحرج سيحدث. ربما.

@ Damus
انهم الناطقين باللغة العربية.

@creed
خطر الأسلحة النووية ما يكفي، أليس كذلك؟
أعني: فرصة 1٪ أنهم يبذلون / لديها السلاح النووي هو سيء واضح.
مع وسائل الإعلام ....

Welcome!
Just so you're aware, creating a "hello" thread is asking for trolls.

Do good and nothing wrong will happen.Probably.

@Damus
They're speaking in arabic.

@creed
The threat of nuclear weapons is enough, no?
I mean: the 1% chance they are making/have a nuke is obviously bad.
With the media....

Google translate says:
جوجل ترجمة يقول:

أهلا وسهلا!
�قط لذلك كنت على علم، وخلق "مرحبا" الموضوع يسأل عن المتصيدون.

�عل الخير وحرج سيحدث. ربما.

@ Damus
انهم الناطقين باللغة العربية.

@creed
خطر الأسلحة النووية ما يك�ي، أليس كذلك؟
أعني: �رصة 1٪ أنهم يبذلون / لديها السلاح النووي هو سيء واضح.
مع وسائل الإعلام ....

[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;198791]DR views the thread, likes the roles, sees raptors comment, doesn't implement[/QUOTE]

- definition of cruelty :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

DR views the thread, likes the roles, sees raptors comment, doesn't implement

- definition of cruelty

A loled at this :)
Is this a harder version of the survivor?

A loled at this
Is this a harder version of the survivor?

[QUOTE=Glip;196242]And now he's homeless on the street because he didn't get any income from producing his song after someone else took it, mass-produced and distributed it for free without giving credit to the original author.

No one knows he wrote the song, and he can't even afford food, but hey, atleast a lot of people like his song, right?[/QUOTE]

And he was presumably betting that his song would be so famous that people would actually buy it in the first place.

Also, how can he be homeless when the technology(read:cash) required would mean that he actually gets a home before he starts selling songs?


Back on topic: Companies try to suppress every free and mashed songs because they run the "risk" of a lost sale.
Oh, and the bonus money you can from a successful sue against someone with a low-end lawyer happens to be a bonus ..

Originally Posted by Glip

And now he's homeless on the street because he didn't get any income from producing his song after someone else took it, mass-produced and distributed it for free without giving credit to the original author.

No one knows he wrote the song, and he can't even afford food, but hey, atleast a lot of people like his song, right?

And he was presumably betting that his song would be so famous that people would actually buy it in the first place.

Also, how can he be homeless when the technology(read:cash) required would mean that he actually gets a home before he starts selling songs?


Back on topic: Companies try to suppress every free and mashed songs because they run the "risk" of a lost sale.
Oh, and the bonus money you can from a successful sue against someone with a low-end lawyer happens to be a bonus ..

Education is vital to modern(and future) society, and thus (All the way up to university, and beyond) should be free.

I think that life should be something that should be overcomed eventually as it is a natural flow of life (I hope you can get what I'm trying to say)

Education is vital to modern(and future) society, and thus (All the way up to university, and beyond) should be free.

I think that life should be something that should be overcomed eventually as it is a natural flow of life (I hope you can get what I'm trying to say)

pure, concentrated IMBAness
you end up with 3+ CONFIRMED town/

Even disguisers wont save mafia from this

pure, concentrated IMBAness
you end up with 3+ CONFIRMED town/

Even disguisers wont save mafia from this

typical of blizzard, can't really blame them tho.

typical of blizzard, can't really blame them tho.

Technically game-throwing, but it doesn't really matter as compared to the serious ones(random lynching as mayor etc)

Technically game-throwing, but it doesn't really matter as compared to the serious ones(random lynching as mayor etc)

This is sad :sad:
It's a black day for space exploration :(
RIP Neil Armstrong, first man on the moon

This is sad
It's a black day for space exploration
RIP Neil Armstrong, first man on the moon

Maybe just petition blizzard to force invitations to be subject to approval by the host

Maybe just petition blizzard to force invitations to be subject to approval by the host

In some countries, crime is super pravalent because the the potential pay-off is higher or equal to the "cost" of failing and being discovered.
'IF penalty is reduced, you could end up with lots of people with 999999 points...

In some countries, crime is super pravalent because the the potential pay-off is higher or equal to the "cost" of failing and being discovered.
'IF penalty is reduced, you could end up with lots of people with 999999 points...

We have to do this!
+2

We have to do this!
+2

Same. Host one on this forum?

Same. Host one on this forum?

You realize that the mayor have already lost?

You realize that the mayor have already lost?

Goal 2 seems un-lose-able.
So this role just wants to die when people can kill him?

hmmm..

Goal 2 seems un-lose-able.
So this role just wants to die when people can kill him?

hmmm..

[QUOTE=oops_ur_dead;193348]My proposition:
No flood timers on VIPs and all donor groups.
People become VIPs with 180 days registered and 500 posts, rep requirement is removed (currently it is 30 rep). All current VIPs would be grandfathered in.
Everyone good with this?[/QUOTE]

Yes.
:)

Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead

My proposition:
No flood timers on VIPs and all donor groups.
People become VIPs with 180 days registered and 500 posts, rep requirement is removed (currently it is 30 rep). All current VIPs would be grandfathered in.
Everyone good with this?

Yes.

I think "copying" would be a better term to describe it :)
also, can you imagine competing with:

Game costing $0
Freeware game being constantly upgraded by 50+ppl working for FREE?
Upgraded cracked game? (Major bug fixes, for example..)

I think "copying" would be a better term to describe it
also, can you imagine competing with:

Game costing $0
Freeware game being constantly upgraded by 50+ppl working for FREE?
Upgraded cracked game? (Major bug fixes, for example..)

Think of the immense worth of money hollywood (or any movie/gaming/computer software company) would lose if:

a)Their product is sub-par, and the pirated version is 3X better
b)Their product will cost you.......$300.

Obviously, the best thing the company can do to raise profits in this situation is to:

1)Lobby congress to pass laws like SOPA and PIPA (And kill off companies like Google as a bonus)
2)Lobby congress to lower taxes+subsidise on them (In this budget crisis!?[Ans: Fund republicans instead])
3)Hire black-hat hackers(or companies) to DDOS, hack and basically make problem website into crap.

Think of the immense worth of money hollywood (or any movie/gaming/computer software company) would lose if:

a)Their product is sub-par, and the pirated version is 3X better
b)Their product will cost you.......$300.

Obviously, the best thing the company can do to raise profits in this situation is to:

1)Lobby congress to pass laws like SOPA and PIPA (And kill off companies like Google as a bonus)
2)Lobby congress to lower taxes+subsidise on them (In this budget crisis!?[Ans: Fund republicans instead])
3)Hire black-hat hackers(or companies) to DDOS, hack and basically make problem website into crap.

[QUOTE=creedkingsx;193665]For [B]newer users[/B] to prevent bots[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by creedkingsx

For newer users to prevent bots

Are you sure?