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  1. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:StruThiO - 1-S2-1-8660481

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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: StruThiO's back (with friends!)◄◄

    Also, owing to the rather unconventional format of this report, if you would prefer me to separate it into separate reports, just say the word.
  2. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:StruThiO - 1-S2-1-8660481

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    {Permanently Banned} ►►StruThiO - 1-S2-1-8660481◄◄

    I guess school's out again. As I had predicted in my prior report, we've got some old-fashioned ban evasion on our hands. It's a shame to see young lad with so much dedication ultimately wasted on something so unproductive. Assuming he wrote the tools himself, he could be making actual money if he just grew up. I know I'd give someone with that talent a job if I didn't think they would deliberately dismantle everything given the chance.

    StruThiO bots:
    4 - bestpony (Crier), BestPony 1-S2-1-8637580
    5 - CreFUKKingAtive (Judge), juana 1-S2-1-8657954
    8 - A U T I S T (Investigator), Purple 1-S2-1-8286350
    9 - OSTRICH (Detective), YuhBoiBee 1-S2-1-8657697
    10 - OSTRICHES (Veteran), StruThiO 1-S2-1-8660481
    14 - REVIN (Dragon Head), Korem 1-S2-1-8657864
    15 - SMITH (Doctor), carlosSG 1-S2-1-8657625

    Crimes: Hacking, Griefing, Cheating, Game-Throwing

    Associated players:
    12 - Retarded (Interrogator), TheJackal 1-S2-1-2858051
    13 - Apathy (Arsonist), AKinAK 1-S2-1-5746086

    Crimes: Griefing, Cheating, Game-Throwing (TheJackal); Cheating (AKinAK)

    Additionally:
    2 - TheSquirts (Escort), AloeJuice 1-S2-1-2989511

    Crimes: Griefing


    Replay:
    Day 1 - 10 (veteran)accurately claims 1 and 12 are triad, followed shortly by 15's (doctor) duplicate claim who accurately specifies interrogator, 5 (judge) calls court (despite no voting on first day)
    Night 1 - 4 (crier) spams 1 and 12 are triad, and accurately adds 14

    The game only degrades from there with more game-ruining behavior for 40 minutes. It's really not worth writing out in the report. What is relevant to mention, however, is that 12 and 13 were actual players that seemed to be using out-of-game communication to cheat and intentionally troll (spamming "rights for retards" virtually the entire game, not killing and then eventually trying to only kill the survivor for 12's case; and instaburning the (otherwise unknown) dragon head and bandwagoning the bots in 13's case). It is clear 12 intended to troll during the game, but it is conceivable that 13 was lucky with regards to the dragon head and only kept the charade so long as it benefited them.

    Additionally, 2 also seemed intent to lightly troll the game, naming themselves "the squirts," and making exclusively fecal-related comments the entire game, but did not seem related to the hacking/botting/skyping above. Though they seemed to have minimal interest in assisting town or contributing to proper discussion, the game was already properly botched regardless of their actions.

    I know I don't make the official recommendations, but I would probably just put 2 and 13 on hold or watch-list since their crimes are less severe (or potentially inconclusive with regards to 13) and ban TheJackal and the StruThiO bots.
  3. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Ryuk: 1-S2-1-4568294

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    {Watch List} ►►Ryuk: 1-S2-1-4568294◄◄

    Account Name: Ryuk
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-4568294
    In-Game Name: afk

    Crimes Committed: Griefing, Game-Throwing

    Your Account Name: gftgy
    Summary:

    Ryuk names themselves "afk" with every apparent intention of acting to match.

    Day 1 afk rolls Jester and says "heart attack soon, just saying."
    ---Considering that they are a Jester at this point in time, this itself isn't Griefing, but I think it sets the tone for their griefing intentions.
    Night 1 afk is converted to Cult by 14 and silenced
    Day 2 afk says nothing (though they are silenced) and randomly casts the only vote toward 10 near the end of the day.
    Night 2 afk says nothing to the other cultist, despite being asked for their roll.
    Day 3 afk says "sheriff here 9 is cult," though 9 is a Serial Killer in the graveyard and cult is not known to exist at this point of the game, they remain silent and do not vote for the rest of the day.
    Night 3 afk does not speak to the other cultist, nor does afk vote on who to convert. 14 fails to convert 10.
    Day 4 afk says "ok sheriff here 14 is cult get him". The Mayor reveals and afk messages the Mayor that they are a sheriff and that 14 is cult. 14 is put on trial, claims sheriff and that 10 is a member of the Mafia, and is pardoned. afk is put on trial, continues to say that 14 is cult, and is lynched.
    ---In addition to not cooperating with the other cultist, this is the major gamethrow, both by revealing their ally as a cultist, and by continuing to troll and get themselves lynched, confirming a cult's existence which was unknown to town before this point.
    Night 4 14 is shot by 10 (the last remaining Mafia), ending the cult.

    It is unknown whether Cult would have been able to win the game, but Ryuk's actions did ensure that Cult wouldn't have the chance. Had afk not gamethrown, it is very likely that the last mafia would have been lynched based on 14's lead, and that 14 would be in a good position to manipulate the game and grow the cult from there. I think Ryuk entered the game with the intention to troll, and their actions constituted such behavior.
  4. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    Also, I did not abstain from healing anyone on the first night, as your summary says. I healed bruh. Though that action in particular is inconsequential to the matter at hand, I think you may be rushing through this review without giving it the attention to detail that it requires.

    I've already waited two weeks. At this point since the punishment is expired, I can wait longer. I recognize that this is something you do in your free time and that you may have been pressed for some of late, but I would appreciate it we could give this our proper thought when you actually have the time to commit it.
  5. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    Hi Arrow, thanks for finally getting around to reviewing the game. Did you read my wall of text above or are you just viewing the replay itself? I think I provide plenty of reason for wanting to lynch 8. On Day 2, I even explicitly state in the replay that I didn't think 8 was the demon, yet I was interested in putting 8 to trial anyway. This statement proves that I was actually targeting the player, not the avatar, and simply used the meta-gameplay elements revolving the avatar to accomplish my objective. Since my actions were intended to lynch an evil I had correctly identified, how was I Griefing?

    I am looking to either convince you that my behavior was legitimate, or for you to inform me how my reasoning is insufficient proving that I actually committed a crime so that I may change my ways and sin no more. As it stands currently, I still believe firmly that my reasoning has not been understood (despite the veritable mountain of evidence behind it) and that I was correct in my actions, so I don't think I have learned anything from this report.
  6. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    Hi. Not to be impatient, but is there an estimate for when my appeal will be processed?
  7. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    I was apparently mistaken that being on the watch-list has no practical effect. I'm used to flying under the radar and receiving very little attention before or after a match, or from one match to the next. (Like I said, this is my first report in 800 games played. That's probably a record.) However being on the watch-list for game-throwing seems to be bringing a lot of attention I'm otherwise unaccustomed to, as I found myself accused of griefing/trolling, gamethrowing, and skyping all in a single night, none of which are activities I partake in, and being harassed after games (which is something I have never had occur). For whatever reason, players tormented me for the actions of another player, apparently not even bothering to check who I was after the match. This negatively impacts my ability to play the game, as it's difficult to not let someone's in-game taunts regarding the previous game affect my judgment, and being bullied is rarely exactly "fun."

    Arguably, it's a meta-game that I just need to become familiar with, but it's one I am uncomfortable with at present. As such, I will be taking a break from Mafia until this ruling is overturned or the time period is up. I appreciate the work you all put in in trying to keep the community clean (I personally think you should be much more strict) and I respect the transparency of your process. I await the result of my appeal with bated breath, and am ready to address anything that I may not have covered in the wall of multicolored text above.
  8. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    You really have it out for me, huh? Everything is a "stretch," right?

    Firstly, I never said "very specific defense," since you not viewing things from my perspective is crucial to the case at hand, it is apparent I may need to correct your comprehensive mistakes.

    Secondy, "providing my role and last will as the FIRST part of my defense" is very specific. Traditional, perhaps, but remarkably specific. I don't want to be mean to you here, since you were also confused by the conflict of interest, but is English your second language? And did you or did you not realize that 8 was a member of the Mafia when you wrote this report?

    At this point, I have spent an inordinate amount of time refuting a half-true and misleading report that was a single sentence long. You've taken time from me, the staff, and sullied the reputation of myself and Human. If you have nothing concrete to add to this discussion, I would request that you keep the rest to yourself and let the moderators handle it from here.
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    ►►Re: Recruiting Clan Officers! ◄◄

    I'm not sure if this is the place for it, but I want to add that I think Kennyrlarsen/Omegasaur would make a fine officer.
  10. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    Hi, coffee! Thanks for chiming back in!

    As you've just stated, you believe that I should have behaved differently so that the game could have proceeded according to your expectations. You're upset because you didn't like the way I played the game, and want to blame me for our loss, despite that two townspeople AFK-suicided and that you were the only person who didn't realize 8 was evil. You're claiming that I gamethrew because I didn't offer a sufficient defense to be voted innocent, when yours was the only vote that determined my guilt; thereby meaning you chose whether I was found guilty or innocent, and now you are attempting to punish me because I was found guilty. That is a textbook case of conflict of interest, where you are seeking to derive benefit (my punishment) from actions or decisions made in your official capacity (you voting me guilty). If we take the more liberal definition of "a situation in which the concerns or aims of two different parties are incompatible," it is abundantly clear by your reply that we took different approaches to playing this game, and that you view mine as incompatible.

    You're really not being fair to me here, saying that I should have acted in a very specific manner to achieve a very specific result through a very specific set of circumstances where any number of things can (and did) go wrong. I'm not psychic, I can't know for certain how you would react to something. I didn't even know you were the person I had to convince (I thought you were probably an evil!) Even if I did know how you would react, I still have to weigh that against how I think others would react. Add this to the immediate time pressure I was faced with, as me being put on trial was remarkably sudden, and I would challenge anyone to do better. I had to go through all of the reasoning I outlined above in seconds and formulate a winning defense with a losing set of cards. I'm sure you could have done it, but maybe I just haven't gotten as good as you in the ~650 more games I've played.

    I disagree with the piddling conjectures you've made in an attempt to refute my appeal. They are overall ignoble, and do not shake the core claims of my appeal. I don't see any benefit in trivializing this argument to petty hypotheticals when you neglected to answer whether you even knew 8 was a member of the Mafia when you wrote this report.

    Regardless, I feel I have sufficiently defended my position, both with regards to topicality and with refuting the claims made against me with concrete evidence taken from the replay itself. You can speak about how you would have reacted differently had I behaved in your expected manner, but that only A: proves the conflict of interest, B: neglects the fundamental aspects of Mafia (that people won't always behave as you expect), and C: ignores that every other present townsperson and the neutral benign voted for my innocence, which is the "proof in the pudding" that my actions did not constitute gamethrowing.
  11. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    As an addendum, I think it would also be appropriate to remove Human's Watch-List, as after viewing the full replay, they seem fully cognizant that 8 was Mafia, explaining their desire to lynch 8, and only stopped attempting to lynch the Mafia when Evils took the majority, thereby aiming to avoid being lynched in the hope of bussing Mafia into killing themselves to claw back to a town victory. Human erasing his last will is not an indication of griefing or game-throwing, as last wills typically help the majority, which town was no longer a part of. I will frequently amend or erase my last will when town loses its majority if I am hoping that town might still win, and I don't think it is relevant to to be included in the report.

    In short, by the third day everyone except the person making this report realized that 8 was a member of the Mafia. Considering that there were fewer than 9 town to begin with, and that two town AFK-suicided, it is incredibly disingenuous to place any amount of blame on the players who cooperatively attempted to properly lynch the Mafia, according to their win-condition. If there must be blood for this game, it should be from the two townspeople that AFKed, or from the one townsperson that worked against the town and wrote this report.

    (I'm not actually insinuating that their should be blood. This is Mafia and gambits fail all the time. coffeeclubbr was manipulated by the Mafia as was appropriate for Mafia's goals. I'm just upset that they didn't realize it even after the game ended, and that they decided to report everyone else for what I would consider their own shortcoming, and that we have been summarily punished for it.
  12. {Watch List} ►►Re: gftgy: 1-S2-1-564449, Human: 1-S2-1-7818686, EpicTimes: 1-S2-1-1008807◄◄

    I understand that watch-list doesn't have any practical effect, but I am loathe to be labeled a potential toublemaker and I appeal this verdict on principle. I have over 800 games played (500 on this computer), and the fact that this is my first report should speak volumes to both my gameplay experience as well as attest to how I conduct myself in the game. Based on Alright's stated reasons for the verdict, it is apparent to me that they did not understand my actual intentions and reasoning in the game, which I will do my best to convey properly here. If possible, I would like to request SuperJack to handle my appeal, as I trust their understanding of meta-gameplay elements, which is key to my appeal.


    Firstly, this opinion may be unpopular, but I want to enter into evidence that the avatar one chooses - much like their name - can actually have an impact on the game. Some avatars may have a negligible impact (e. g. Hunk), while others, like the Demon here, will often have a considerable impact. In this replay, this is immediately proven at the start of Day 1, where no fewer than four people express an interest in the Diablo's death, even before any night actions have taken place. Other possible examples of an avatar impacting the game is someone with a basic male or female avatar pretending to be new, or someone making an authoritative appeal to their experience by showcasing a Protoss avatar, both of which are established tactics in SC2Mafia. Thus, regardless of the more traditional gameplay reasons I will now expand upon, I want to make it clear that I wholly reject Alright's notion that a decision should not be apparently influenced by someone's choice of an avatar. If, as moderators of the game, you feel strongly that avatars should not be considered in gameplay decisionmaking, I suggest you remove the offending avatars entirely, rather than attempt to change human nature (the observation and manipulation of which is, after all, the core gameplay element in Mafia).

    With that in mind, let’s recap the game. As the replay will show, at the start of the game I check the Help Menu to see the point distribution (and familiar faces) of players, which will shape my tactics and how I behave in this game.

    Day 1, three others (Dr. Progesss, bruh, and Dr. Prognosis, in that order) declare their dissatisfaction with the Diablo avatar. As far as I am concerned, the game has already started, even if nightfall hasn’t occurred. Exactly zero other sentiments have been expressed at this point, so I become the fourth person to share the same. In other games during the first day, sometimes people will lie and say that they’re the Godfather, others mention their favorite music; I’m personally fond of the “let’s lynch Diablo” tactic. This is Mafia gameplay.

    Night 1, the Crier/Judge (unknown at this time) further expresses that the Diablo, player 8, should be lynched come daytime. This is potentially Five persons with a publicly stated interest in lynching Diablo, possibly including a Judge. At this point, I have no way to know whether Diablo is good or evil, but I’m immediately thinking about how I can potentially manipulate the possible judge to lynch a fellow evil if I come to suspect Diablo of being one.

    Day 2, Dr. Prognosis is dead. bruh says that 8 is not suspicious. I actually state that I don’t think 8 is the Diablo, but that I would like to put 8 on trial, anyway. (If I recall correctly, my intuition at this time suggested that 8 may have been the Judge.) [At this point, Dr. Progress helpfully informs me that the player circle always starts at the very right with player 1, therefore making 8 at the very left the Diablo - something I had actually never figured out on my own despite my number of games played.] 8 defends himself by saying that I am trying to randomly lynch a ns person, and because I am interested in pushing 8 to trial, I try to manipulate public opinion which believes both that 8 is the demon, and has a stated interest in the demon dying. 8 receives 5 of the 6 votes needed for trial, as a couple other people have expressed their interest in lynching the Diablo, but successfully escapes into the night without being placed on trial. At this point, based on what 8 has said in chat thus far, that 8 was not voted up despite the court of public opinion, that 8 is apparently Diablo and that someone who wanted to lynch Diablo was shot by the Mafia, and that 8 was found not suspicious by bruh, I suspect that 8 is the Godfather, which I publicly claim before the day ends. To expand upon this, if the Diablo were not Mafia, I surmise that the Mafia would have wanted all townspeople interested in lynching Diablo alive, so as to prompt the town to mislynch Diablo, keeping Mafia safe. More damningly, if the Diablo were not Mafia, the Mafia would have every interest in following the publicly stated town interest and lynching (or at least voting up) the Diablo. Neither of these happened, so I presume that the Diablo is a member of the Mafia.

    To drive home this point, by the second day, I have CORRECTLY pinpointed a Mafia member based entirely on social cues and a sheriff’s claim that they were not suspicious.

    Night 2, There is no disturbing of the peace, but the Neutral Evil is still unaccounted for making Judge still possible. An Investigator AFK-suicides (this is important and not mentioned in Alright's summary), and bruh, another vocal proponent of lynching Diablo is shot by the Mafia.

    Day 3, At this point, with bruh dead, if I wasn’t sure that the Diablo was a member of the Mafia before, I am now. I push to have him lynched, but I am instead voted up by all four evils, and a couple naďve town members. This is where I really have a problem, because since I am on trial and Agosto suicided last night, there are only four town remaining to vote for my innocence, meanwhile there are four evils I can count on to vote against me, and a neutral benign. No invests have spoken up at this point, and two are in the graveyard, so I assume that none exist, making the sole town random likely a protective role. (This is my save, so I have the advantage of knowing the probabilities.) If I reveal as a doctor (for which I have no proof), the other two presumed protective roles will be doubtful, and if either speak up that they themselves are protective roles, I am certainly doomed. Furthermore, as far as I know, a Judge is fairly likely as there have been no kills from the neutral evil, no audits, no witching, and cult probability is too low to be worth considering (~4%), potentially resulting in myself being courted as soon as I reveal as town. Further still, even if I survive my trial, I can expect to be promptly murdered at night after revealing as a doctor. Since the town gov is dead, I can’t pray for a Mayor reveal to save me. My only hope for a successful defense is to deflect back onto 8, who has not defended himself at all this game other than to point towards me, and pray that the neutral benign would join my cause. This was a game-deciding moment that I did not take lightly (and it's only Day 3!), and I maintain that I provided the best defense I could have, given the circumstances. I am convicted guilty by a vote of 5 to 3, with one abstention from an AFK vigilante, who consequently suicides at night (also missing from Alright's summary). I successfully managed to convince the neutral benign to vote with me, and all (present) town except the one who has written this report.

    If coffeeclubbr had voted innocent with the rest of the town, I would have been saved, and the town potentially victorious. Considering that theirs was literally the only deciding vote, as all four evils were naturally voting guilty, this report is tainted by a clear conflict of interest. Furthermore, a review of this save from coffeeclubbr's perspective shows that they are already convinced that 8 cannot be Mafia, as they have updated their last will to say so. Therefore, with 20/20 hindsight, I believe that there is absolutely nothing I could have said to make coffeeclubbr think 8 was evil to save the town.

    In the graveyard, I am immediately told that it was a good defense, so I actually take offense to being reported for “game-throwing” and “offering no defense when trialed.” To lend credence to everything I’ve stated above, and that I haven’t just made it up to defend this report, I even explain that I couldn’t have revealed as a doctor in the graveyard of this replay, while several people, including the still-alive survivor, state that it was obvious that 8 was a member of the Mafia, so I find it shortsighted that Alright assumes we had no basis to push for a lynch, particularly after both investigative roles and the town gov turned up dead. Surely Alright doesn't expect town to just sit around and die?

    At any rate, I object to being reported for “griefing” for my (otherwise successful) attempt to have a Mafia member lynched, and I object to being reported for “gamethrowing” by the one townsperson that didn’t recognize an evil and was arguably the consequent cause of our loss. Additionally, I expressly state in the replay that I am actually targeting player 8 specifically when I am unaware that they are the demon, and my behavior remained consistent with my goals and knowledge as clarified in this post.

    So aside from the question to staff about my appeal, the question I have after all this is: Did coffeeclubbr even notice after the game that 8 was Mafia when they wrote this report?

    EDIT: Went overboard with the colors for clarity because I'm really worked up about my first report. I figured in a game like this it had to happen sometime, as emotions often run high, but I really think the verdict was delivered without a complete analyses of the situation.

    EDIT EDIT: Oh god what have I done. I'll fix this, I swear!

    EDIT EDIT EDIT:
    Account Name: gftgy
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-564449

    Crimes Committed: Color Abuse
  13. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:LucidKiller: 1-S2-1-2499956

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    {Watch List} ►►LucidKiller: 1-S2-1-2499956◄◄

    Account Name: LucidKiller
    Account ID: 1-S2-2499956
    In-Game Name: townwinsidiot

    Crimes Committed: Griefing

    Your Account Name: gftgy
    Summary:
    Night 1 - Jailor (13) executes Consort and Veteran kills an Investigator (confirming 7 as vet) and an Arsonist.
    Day 2 - LucidKiller (townwinsidiot) reveals as Mayor, despite 7 also being confirmed town. Players message Mayor, and Jester is lynched Day 2.
    Night 2 - Mayor goes over his log. Sheriff finds a second Mafia.
    Day 3 - Mayor votes and lynches Mafia, likely based on Sheriff's lw. Veteran asks if Mayor wants any help determining evils. 13 engages in off-topic conversation and remarks that the previous game's save was "an extraordinary level of shitty."
    Night 3 - Mayor updates his lw to say "this save has 6 town and 1 mafia why is it good" [there are 6 town and 1 mafia remaining at this point] and "I didn't even read last wills. 13 is bad."
    Day 4 - Mayor votes up and guilties 13, the uncontested Jailor that executed the Consort. Mayor says he was checking logs, and that 13 didn't like his save (from the previous game). I (unconfirmed Doctor) shout that town had 3 confirmed members, and he just lynched one. Mayor responds "yea, he didnt like my save, check logs."
    Night 4 - No shots.
    Day 5 - Mayor is asking who liked his save from the previous game. Town beg him to vote and lynch someone since only 1 Mafia remains. Mayor says "i want town to figure out their own problems, im busy, hookers and cocaine."
    Night 5 - Framer visits vet, saved by doc.
    Day 6 - Mayor, veteran, and doctor are confirmed at this point. "BG" and "Invest" (Framer) are unconfirmed, Mayor says to "figure it out town, i cant hold your dick while u piss." Town again asks Mayor to vote, and eventually side with the Framer to vote up the trolling Mayor. On trial, the Mayor claims he is Spy, and is summarily lynched by the exasperated town and framer. Mayor says "if town can't figure out who Mafia is, why should i." and "not my job, i dont need to read pms, i have important stuff"
    Night 6 - No shots.
    Day 7 - Framer is lynched. Town wins.

    LucidKiller, as Mayor, began griefing when he realized players were insulting his previous save. He then lynched a confirmed town and refused to use his position of trust or voting power to root out the last evil, forcing town to lynch him to progress with the game. Additionally, he expressly indicated his lack of intent to help town, contrary to his win condition, and admitted to lynching the Jailor because "he didnt like my save."
  14. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:JLander: 1-S2-1-4718461

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    {Ban List} ►►Re: JLander: 1-S2-1-4718461◄◄

    I didn't realize this was a pattern of behavior. In that case, the preceding match (mentioned in the context above) where he neglected to shoot either of two confirmed town to win the game may have been a deliberate gamethrow. Should I upload that as well? (I would have to dig up the replay.)
  15. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:JLander: 1-S2-1-4718461

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    {Ban List} ►►JLander: 1-S2-1-4718461◄◄

    EDIT: I neglected to update the "OffenderUsername" to JLander. Can this be changed or should I submit a new report?

    Account Name: JLander
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-4718461
    In-Game Name: Enrico Giordano

    Crimes Committed: Griefing

    Your Account Name: gftgy
    Summary:
    [context] This game immediately follows a previous game where JLander - though I believe not intentionally gamethrowing - really failed to pull his weight as the Dragon Head. Specifically culminating in a night against two (confirmed) town where he decided not to shoot either, resulting in his lynch the next day and a town victory. In the lobby, several people chastise him for his poor performance, with a couple even suggesting that he be kicked from the lobby. As the host, I state that being a poor player is not a bannable offense, and that he has to learn somehow. He states in the lobby that he doesn't care about what others think he should have done (paraphrasing) and that he's only going to "play solo" and ignore everyone else. I tell him that "playing solo" is not the nature of mafia [unless perhaps you are a Jester], and that he should attempt to work with his team. He rebuffs me, reiterates his intent to "play solo," and I remove him from the lobby several times before the game forcibly starts. [Side note: How I long for a ban option in the arcade lobbies. Even with its potential for abuse, it would certainly cure many headaches.]

    The game loads, I state that "this save [with an Any Random and no confirmed Neutral Killer] is maybe a little too complex for JLander, but we're going with it, so if there's someone acting extra special, you know who it is, cut them some slack." Day 1 I reiterate from the lobby: "Remember everyone, be nice to JLander, he has to learn somehow. JLander, remember it's not a solo game, buddy. You can win this, I believe in you JLander. You just gotta work with your team." (This series of statements was a context-appropriate and successful veteran-bait.)
    [/context]

    JLander is a Doctor and sets his last will to "Sorry I sleep at night, I'm playing solo." He fails to perform any night actions and continually votes against the majority of town, saying that he was suiciding, and generally acting like a Jester, eventually resulting in him being lynched by town. This seems like a textbook case of Griefing, and going against his assigned win condition.

    Though Town did still win the game, he arguably cost the Jester - who was upfront about their role - their Jester victory.
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    {Ban List} ►►Robert: 1-S2-1-8349572 & Smurfs◄◄

    It's not the last of them. Here's another replay with other robert accounts. He's not skyping, he's using automated scripting (which I would classify as hacking) to control multiple accounts. I suggest a permaban.
  17. {Point Ban} ►►Creeper: 1-S2-1-5763811; OTL: 1-S2-1-3245349; Infrared: 1-S2-1-1361726; MmmTasty: 1-S2-1-8201031◄◄

    Account Name: Creeper
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-5763811

    Account Name: OTL
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-3245349

    Account Name: Infrared
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-1361726

    Account Name: MmmTasty
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-8201031

    Crimes Committed: Bank Hacking

    Your Account Name: gftgy
    Summary: Creeper, OTL, Infrared, and MmmTasty have points that heavily outweigh their games played/won. OTL even has negative games won.
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