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[QUOTE][COLOR=#800080]Order Of Operations:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ADD8E6]Junior Ghost[/COLOR] roleblocks.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Orphan Kid[/COLOR] follows.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Teacher[/COLOR] talks
[COLOR=#00FF00]Citizen[/COLOR] does nothing.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Police[/COLOR] goes on duty.
[COLOR=#40E0D0]Ghost Hunter[/COLOR] kills or detects.
[COLOR=#ADD8E6]Senior Ghost[/COLOR] kills.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Vigilante[/COLOR] kills.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Nurse[/COLOR] heals.[/QUOTE]

From the OoO...

[QUOTE][COLOR=#00FF00]Orphan Kid:[/COLOR]Can follow someone at night. Seeing to whom did his target visit as well as who did visit the target. Can vote during the day.[/QUOTE]

I think Orphan Kid should be last, when all actions have first happened.

[QUOTE][COLOR=#00FF00]Teacher:[/COLOR] Can target someone to talk with at night. Doesn't roleblocks. Can vote during the day. Can't be roleblocked.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][COLOR=#800080]Order Of Operations:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ADD8E6]Junior Ghost[/COLOR] roleblocks.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Teacher[/COLOR] talks[/QUOTE]

How does this work? The Junior Ghost acts during night, which is before the Teacher, thus it solidifies that the Teacher is in fact a night action role.
Does the Teacher target someone during the night to chat with them during the same night? When the action is processed, the night is already over.

Personally I think the Teacher should be able to target someone during the day (like a traditional jailor would) and once the day ends, their target gets the night chat. Avoids unnecessary complexity.

[QUOTE][COLOR=#FFF0F5]Angel:[/COLOR] Can join to Ghost Chat but ghosts wont know who he is. Can't be killed at night however can be force to fade away (lynch) at day. If Angel's been attacked, the attacker will discover who he is. Can vote during the day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][COLOR=#FFF0F5]Angel[/COLOR] can win with anyone, whoever he wants.[/QUOTE]

Is there any reason for the Angel not to confirm themselves in the ghost chat? This prevents the Ghosts from accidentally hitting the Angel.
They can just be like, "HEY SCUM, I'M RLVG111!!!"

This also negates any scum coordination because it's like a spy constantly watching on them and the Angel can just ditch the Ghosts by saying who they are if any sort of coordination occurred.

[QUOTE]If Orphan Kid follows Teacher, he will be able to join to conversation. Orphan Kid will be anonymous. Orphan Kid will see the Teach as visits the target.[/QUOTE]

How does this work? If the Orphan Kid acts during the night and the Teacher (logically) acts during the Day, wouldn't they be too late to join the conversation?
I think the Orphan Kid should instead be able to access the night chat when it's done and closed, at the start of day.

If you really want the Orphan Kid to be able to join the conversation, then a suggestion is to ditch the thing at night and instead make it a separate day action in which the Orphan Kid can attempt to look for the teacher. That way they can join in on the Teacher's conversation and at the same time able to use their original night action without there being a mess with this mechanic.

Here's an example.
[COLOR=#800080]Special Mechanics:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#00FF00]Orphan Kid[/COLOR] and [COLOR=#00FF00]Teacher[/COLOR]
Orphan Kid can follow someone during day, if it's the Teacher then the Orphan Kid will join the conversation anonymously.

[QUOTE][COLOR=#ADD8E6]Ghosts[/COLOR] has to kill [COLOR=#40E0D0]Ghost Hunter[/COLOR] and additinoal 3 townies to win the game.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Town[/COLOR] and [COLOR=#40E0D0]Ghost Hunter[/COLOR] has to get rid of [COLOR=#ADD8E6]Ghosts[/COLOR] in order to win this game.[/QUOTE]

And now something different. What happens in the scenario when Ghosts and the Town both wins?

Junior Ghost is dead and 3 Townies are dead in this made up scenario.
Ghost Hunter shoots the Senior Ghost and the Vigilante shoots the Ghost Hunter.

This makes it so that the Ghosts are dead but they still win as the conditions are met, but the Town also wins because the Ghosts are rid of.

Suggestion : Make it so at least one member of the ghosts are alive for the Ghosts to win.

Order Of Operations:
Junior Ghost roleblocks.
Orphan Kid follows.
Teacher talks
Citizen does nothing.
Police goes on duty.
Ghost Hunter kills or detects.
Senior Ghost kills.
Vigilante kills.
Nurse heals.

From the OoO...

Orphan Kid:Can follow someone at night. Seeing to whom did his target visit as well as who did visit the target. Can vote during the day.

I think Orphan Kid should be last, when all actions have first happened.

Teacher: Can target someone to talk with at night. Doesn't roleblocks. Can vote during the day. Can't be roleblocked.

Order Of Operations:
Junior Ghost roleblocks.
Teacher talks

How does this work? The Junior Ghost acts during night, which is before the Teacher, thus it solidifies that the Teacher is in fact a night action role.
Does the Teacher target someone during the night to chat with them during the same night? When the action is processed, the night is already over.

Personally I think the Teacher should be able to target someone during the day (like a traditional jailor would) and once the day ends, their target gets the night chat. Avoids unnecessary complexity.

Angel: Can join to Ghost Chat but ghosts wont know who he is. Can't be killed at night however can be force to fade away (lynch) at day. If Angel's been attacked, the attacker will discover who he is. Can vote during the day.

Angel can win with anyone, whoever he wants.

Is there any reason for the Angel not to confirm themselves in the ghost chat? This prevents the Ghosts from accidentally hitting the Angel.
They can just be like, "HEY SCUM, I'M RLVG111!!!"

This also negates any scum coordination because it's like a spy constantly watching on them and the Angel can just ditch the Ghosts by saying who they are if any sort of coordination occurred.

If Orphan Kid follows Teacher, he will be able to join to conversation. Orphan Kid will be anonymous. Orphan Kid will see the Teach as visits the target.

How does this work? If the Orphan Kid acts during the night and the Teacher (logically) acts during the Day, wouldn't they be too late to join the conversation?
I think the Orphan Kid should instead be able to access the night chat when it's done and closed, at the start of day.

If you really want the Orphan Kid to be able to join the conversation, then a suggestion is to ditch the thing at night and instead make it a separate day action in which the Orphan Kid can attempt to look for the teacher. That way they can join in on the Teacher's conversation and at the same time able to use their original night action without there being a mess with this mechanic.

Here's an example.
Special Mechanics: Orphan Kid and Teacher
Orphan Kid can follow someone during day, if it's the Teacher then the Orphan Kid will join the conversation anonymously.

Ghosts has to kill Ghost Hunter and additinoal 3 townies to win the game.
Town and Ghost Hunter has to get rid of Ghosts in order to win this game.

And now something different. What happens in the scenario when Ghosts and the Town both wins?

Junior Ghost is dead and 3 Townies are dead in this made up scenario.
Ghost Hunter shoots the Senior Ghost and the Vigilante shoots the Ghost Hunter.

This makes it so that the Ghosts are dead but they still win as the conditions are met, but the Town also wins because the Ghosts are rid of.

Suggestion : Make it so at least one member of the ghosts are alive for the Ghosts to win.

1. Why are nights 18 hours long?
2. You don't need to say that everything can vote during the day, you can just write that on the lynch mechanics instead lol.

3. Because an Angel cannot reveal themselves and the Ghosts, it's going to be a player who does absolutely nothing in this game. It'll be kind of obvious who the Angel is. What prevents players into pressuring an Angel? They're just going to harass this poor Angel into a lynch. How can the Angel even be active in this game if information is so limited?
4. Why can the Angel join the Ghost Chat anonymously when the two ghosts are going to cooperate? They will know who the Angel is.
5. Even worse with the Angel, they have the ability to vote but they cannot hammer and if they vote it's an indication of any sort of read if the target is town or scum, which is part of their restriction of scum hunting. The Angel simply cannot vote.

6. What prevents the Ghost Hunter from revealing themselves? It's basically a Mayor since any counterclaims would be immediately lynched.
7. What's the point of Ghost Hunter's night immunity if according to the OoO he can be roleblocked before it happens? The two Ghosts would just roleblock and kill their target.
8. What prevents the Vigilante from outing the Ghost Hunter immediately to confirm two players?
9. Once a Ghost Hunter is revealed and the Junior Ghost is dead, what prevents the Town from winning? They won't lynch the Ghost Hunter and the Ghost Hunter can just turtle with Night Immunity. In addition if the Senior Ghost dies and the Ghost Hunter has not revealed- what prevents the players from simply no lynching everyday and then allow the Ghost Hunter to kill players one by one until they find the Junior Ghost?

10. What's even the point of the Vigilante's night kill? It can't kill anyone but Town. It's basically a Citizen who knows the identity of another player who has the ability to grief.

11. What's the general point of the Police? When they protect someone and their target is attacked by the Senior Ghost, he'll just die. If he protects the Ghost Hunter or the Angel, who are immune, he'll get killed when no one were supposed to die. There's no last will so there's little to no information as well. Compare it to a Nurse who can just outright heal someone, preventing a kill and reveal this information during day. The only reason for Police would be combined with an Orphan Kid so that the Orphan Kid can give this information, but it's unlikely since there's a chance of roleblock and the Police wouldn't reveal themselves beforehand which lessens the chance of an accurate targeting on the relevant night.

12. Teacher can just confirm themselves to whoever they chose to have a night chat with.

13. How does the Orphan Kid join the conversation if he follows the Teacher? The Orphan Kid acts during night which is when the conversation is happening, which I assume the Teacher is acting during the day to determine who gets the conversation at night.

1. Why are nights 18 hours long?
2. You don't need to say that everything can vote during the day, you can just write that on the lynch mechanics instead lol.

3. Because an Angel cannot reveal themselves and the Ghosts, it's going to be a player who does absolutely nothing in this game. It'll be kind of obvious who the Angel is. What prevents players into pressuring an Angel? They're just going to harass this poor Angel into a lynch. How can the Angel even be active in this game if information is so limited?
4. Why can the Angel join the Ghost Chat anonymously when the two ghosts are going to cooperate? They will know who the Angel is.
5. Even worse with the Angel, they have the ability to vote but they cannot hammer and if they vote it's an indication of any sort of read if the target is town or scum, which is part of their restriction of scum hunting. The Angel simply cannot vote.

6. What prevents the Ghost Hunter from revealing themselves? It's basically a Mayor since any counterclaims would be immediately lynched.
7. What's the point of Ghost Hunter's night immunity if according to the OoO he can be roleblocked before it happens? The two Ghosts would just roleblock and kill their target.
8. What prevents the Vigilante from outing the Ghost Hunter immediately to confirm two players?
9. Once a Ghost Hunter is revealed and the Junior Ghost is dead, what prevents the Town from winning? They won't lynch the Ghost Hunter and the Ghost Hunter can just turtle with Night Immunity. In addition if the Senior Ghost dies and the Ghost Hunter has not revealed- what prevents the players from simply no lynching everyday and then allow the Ghost Hunter to kill players one by one until they find the Junior Ghost?

10. What's even the point of the Vigilante's night kill? It can't kill anyone but Town. It's basically a Citizen who knows the identity of another player who has the ability to grief.

11. What's the general point of the Police? When they protect someone and their target is attacked by the Senior Ghost, he'll just die. If he protects the Ghost Hunter or the Angel, who are immune, he'll get killed when no one were supposed to die. There's no last will so there's little to no information as well. Compare it to a Nurse who can just outright heal someone, preventing a kill and reveal this information during day. The only reason for Police would be combined with an Orphan Kid so that the Orphan Kid can give this information, but it's unlikely since there's a chance of roleblock and the Police wouldn't reveal themselves beforehand which lessens the chance of an accurate targeting on the relevant night.

12. Teacher can just confirm themselves to whoever they chose to have a night chat with.

13. How does the Orphan Kid join the conversation if he follows the Teacher? The Orphan Kid acts during night which is when the conversation is happening, which I assume the Teacher is acting during the day to determine who gets the conversation at night.