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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    You just want to support a counterwagon since you don't want to die lol.
    Partially that, partially I have been scumreading Paladin since the start, hes the only one I am sure on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    I'm saying that I scum-read ThePaladin, and I know that you believe him and Firebringer are town as you keep voting with them and agree with them (for the most part). I'm trying to compromise by saying if you lynch my scum-read and I end up being wrong then you can shoot me if you still feel like I'm scum. But if you don't really think that ThePaladin is scum then you may not be inclined to lynch them. I know that lynching Unicorn won't get anywhere, and that I'm confident with my scum-read on ThePaladin.
    Aight. I agree on the underlined things especially.

    -vote ThePaladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    @Lolunicorn12358

    have you ever done an iso before? (isolation of a players posts. for analisis and viewing)
    can you go through all of sprunces posts. analise them and tell me if he is town or scum.
    look for:
    motiviation
    buddying
    votes
    reads
    ectectect

    i have a link here that gives a link to all his posts in this game.
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...earchid=902733

    if you have any questions feel free to ask.
    i impore other people to look at it.
    The link didnt work
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    who actually doesnt see unicorn being the lynch target at EOD
    Even I see me being the EOD lynch. Just not a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    name 3 scum players and explain why unicorn. OMGUS will be frowned on.
    Okay, noobing here, all I know is ThePaladin, but I am really confident in the fact that he is scum. He was RB on the night that there wasn't an ultron kill, he was defensive, and he is intent on his opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    name 3 scum players and explain why unicorn.
    Let me look, ill be back to respond to this in a minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    Reads don't mean much without explanations, it was only normal for us to ask you to explain them.
    As seen in my previous posts, your explanations had many slips, many loopholes.

    And hey, I took some time to find the incoherences in your reads as well. This game has proved to be very complex, you have to take time to make your posts.
    Fine. I just don't know how to read very well, or explain them. When I said that a person was town, they were acting townish. They were at least trying to be beneficial. I just don't know how to explain these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    day 2 post made by hosts. tells us that exe was killed by a vigilante.

    this comfirms a town vigilante is in the game.

    rlvg is the only person to claim it. no one has counter claimed.

    this comfirms rlvg as town. as a read vigilante would of revealed and got him lynched.
    Unless they are being AFK, if they havent made it to the forum around that time or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    general rule is that if he is not counter claimed he is the vigilante comfirmed.
    same goes for allot of roles.
    Yea sure whatever,
    I'm not calling him confirmed. He just roleclaimed, just like that, and hes confirmed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    I demand answers or my vote is staying on you.
    OKAY...
    LETS RECAP

    -I roleclaimed because you people said too
    That did nothing of course.
    -You laughed, told me to formulate reads or ill be lynched.
    -I made reads, reads that weren't too bad. It stated my opinion, and I fixed it to include everyone.
    -You told me to explain it.
    -I took way too much time trying to word proper answers as to why I thought what I thought.
    Because you people said I should do that too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    RLVG is PROBABLY town.


    Okay, you guys can stop with that. I understand your opinion. Lead me to where RLVG is completely confirmed. Maybe I just skipped the page?

    Or is RLVG just widely suspected to be Vig? Hallo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    @Lolunicorn12358

    Your reads just show that you really aren't following what's going on.
    Dude, I try. If I didn't do these things, then most of the forum would be in "null." The only people that wouldn't be would be RLVG being Probably Town and Carrot being Town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Yes bwcause tyoing on mobile is bad is a reason to nit answet me...
    No, but lack of time is, and a good reason to distract you with an excuse. Haha... ha.... heh... ugh.
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    Anywho, when did RLVG get confirmed and how? Cause I must have skipped that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Most of thise reads are either

    Not reasons ti read a person as that
    Or atrocious

    Also lol the lurkers are town to you

    Try agaain
    That took too long to type to try again.

    Im sorry, "try agaain" is not registered in the log. Please insert not-lynch, and wait for D3 for help to arrive to solve the problem.
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    There, I'll explain my reads.

    Here we go.

    Lets start with 90%+ Town

    Carrot Cake-
    Carrot cake is the Mayor. She revealed earlier today, confirming her role. Mayor is a town role.
    RLVG- RLVG is the confirmed vigilante. I skipped a bunch of pages., okay?
    Unknown1234- Uses logic and is smart, does mostly what is (at least seemingly to me) helpful to the town.
    Doctor claim is possible, and realistic.
    Mesk514- Healed N1 apparently, has been beneficial and followed the more dominant town seeming roles. (STOP JUDGING ME)
    Citizen is realistic.
    _________

    Now whom I considered More Town,

    Gyrlander- Don't see anything wrong, doesn't post much, but none of it has been scummy.
    Firebringer- Hasn't posted much, but what he has posted has been rather beneficial. Hasn't done anything against town.
    Spruance- Similar to me, I think. Oh I don't know, they aren't scummy!
    _________

    The one I think is a bit more scummy,

    ThePaladin- Extremely defensive, at least at the start. Crazy, and intent on his opinion and cannot be swayed. Convicting everyone. (Please don't just go through and yell "Oh thats just SCUMHUNTING" okay? I know your opinion)


    And these are null to me, I can't tell.

    MattZed- Doesn't post much, really.
    NeverUnlucky- I just can't tell, I'm not an expert, I don't know what neverunlucky is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Policy would imply you are at least defending youself m8.
    Currently you srent
    WELL WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?!?!?!

    Nobody with a vote on me is going to take it off, I guarantee, they're too stupid.
    I'm just a policy lynch, so unless I miraculously figure out every detail and secret to playing this game, I'm still a policy lynch.
    Neither my playstyle, nor my intelligence or noobyness are going to change in the next 24hrs.

    I told you my role
    I GAVE YOU my READS.
    You told me you didn't like them.
    You didn't explain or anything to change my opinion
    I screamed at you.
    YOU, SPECIFICALLY PALADIN, CALLED ME AN "IT"
    TELL ME! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN RAGE ON YOUR SPONTANEOUS HATE OF ME?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    It is a dummy therefore an it
    Oh gee my chances are great.
    When I flip town, will anyone care? Or am I just a fricking policy lynch?
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    Here I am at L2 and I know I'm screwed. Screw you people.

    Fricking policy lynch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Seriously guys, do you want this player to be in a 2v1 situation versus scum? Endgame at all?
    MYLO with this fucking player?

    This player can't even knowledge that I'm confirmed Vigilante and is still thinking me as possible scum until randomly deciding I might no longer be scum lol.
    I JUST FUCKING SAID YOU WERE TOWN

    STOP COMPLAINING.

    GEEZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spruance View Post
    If his reads were better I'd probably unvote, but they aren't lol.
    You people asked for reads. I gave you my reads, told you what I saw and I thought. If you don't like my reads, you can get the hell over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolunicorn12358 View Post
    READS

    90%+ Town
    -------------
    Carrot Cake
    Spruance
    Unknown1234
    Mesk514
    _________

    More Town
    -----------
    Gyrlander
    RLVG
    Firebringer
    _________

    More Scummy
    ---------------
    ThePaladin


    Unsure/null
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    MattZed
    NeverUnlucky
    Fixed it I think.

    I feel like RLVG Isn't scum, I haven't seen evidence otherwise and he has acted... better. Funny he is so bent on lynching me tho.
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    Ey! I told you I'm citizen. What else am I supposed to do?! I mean, how do I convince you people, you are set on lynching me!
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    READS

    90%+ Town
    -------------
    Carrot Cake
    Spruance
    Unknown1234
    Mesk514
    _________

    More Town
    -----------
    Gyrlander
    RLVG
    _________

    More Scummy
    ---------------
    ThePaladin


    Unsure/null
    MattZed


    There! Reads!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    and you other lurkers can make some comments.

    unicorn don't forget to post your reads like I asked.
    Eh, sure. Gimme sec to figure this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolunicorn12358 View Post
    Oh. Crap I didn't notice.

    Once upon a time there was a unicorn and the unicorn fought for her acceptance but it was not given to her so she tried to help them but she didn't know what she was doing so her questions were not answered. She fought those who wanted to lynch her but could not do anything without the towns help since she was a Citizen
    And thats the end of the story, because she was policy lynched at the end of D2 and flipped town. THE END.

    No there arent any other claims, thats my final answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    On a sidenote

    Unicorn you are at l2 roleclaim
    Oh. Crap I didn't notice.

    Once upon a time there was a unicorn and the unicorn fought for her acceptance but it was not given to her so she tried to help them but she didn't know what she was doing so her questions were not answered. She fought those who wanted to lynch her but could not do anything without the towns help since she was a Citizen
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Unicorn playing bad or being bad at a game you signed up for does not excuse scummy behavoir. This applies to any psychological game not jsut mafia
    But the thing is, there isn't scummy behavior. Multiple people SAID that. I'm just a potential policy lynch. And I can see why, but I was not given a chance to figure it out. It's D2, can we not do this?
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    Geez people...
    I would Role claim but I don't think it'll matter. Allow me to explain myself as calmly as possible in my situation.

    I AM TRYING TO FORUM MAFIA AND I JUST SUCK AT VIDEO GAMES ITS MY FIRST GAME IN PROBABLY OVER A YEAR I AM STILL FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THIS I AM A TOWN AND YOU PEOPLE EVEN SAID THEY PROB WONT KILL ME SO HERE I AM THE TOWN THAT WILL SURVIVE! If you people would just ANSWER my QUESTIONS and LET ME TRY then Ill LEARN VERY QUICKLY I'm SURE, if I can JUST get a CHANCE to figure out how to judge who is LYING and when someone MESSES UP and THAT KINDA CRAP, OKAY?

    Thank you.
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    Hello and welcome to Claimed Roles with special guest Comic Sans!

    Carrot Cake- 1UP! +35877 Mayor
    Mattzed-
    RLVG- ?Vig (Ya see, idk)
    Unknown1234- Doctor
    Mesk- Citizen
    Never Unlucky-
    Grylander-
    ThePaladin- Um, +1 ult
    Firebringer-
    Spruance-
    Lolunicorn12358- You thought I would RC?! Pahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    DO YO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MAFIA WORK?

    THERE IS PLAYER. THERE IS A CHANCE THEY CAN BE SCUM. THEY HAVE POSTED LITTLE BUT EACH POST SHOWS SCUM LEANING INTENTIONS.


    THE NEXT STEP IS VOTING THEM. PRESSUREING THEM TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION AND READS. THIS WILL THEN FURTHER SHOW IF THEY ARE SCUM OR IF THEY ARE TOWN!



    WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO DO? SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR SCUM TO REVEAL THEMSELF? IF YOU DO NOT PUSH PEOPLE AND VOTE THEM THEN YOU WILL LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

    AND IF GYLANDER IS TOWN. THE VOTES ON THEM/ NOT ON THEM WILL REVEAL SCUM.



    IF YOU DO NOT PRESSURE AND VOTE PEOPLE. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANALISE THE POSTS TO FIND THE SCUM.
    Hush for a second.

    I am prettttty sure that once you think they are scum, THEN you pressure them. If I am incorrect, let me know.
    After all, it isn't as if I have played only two games quite a while ago, and sucked, and this is my only recent game.. OH WAIT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolunicorn12358 View Post
    WHY do I vote grylander?!
    Or anyone else? I haven't seen too much a reason for the people you are looking towards. I think Paladin, or maybe RLVG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    @Lolunicorn12358

    get voting or become voted. i dont know how inexperianced you are but by the sounds of it you are unsure and its a norm for newb scum to avoid voting.
    Oh cool then I'm normal? Great. Listen, I do not feel that I have a good reason. Whenever I ask for a reason why to vote another person, I either (ESPECIALLY BY YOU AND VOTERS OF GRYLANDER) get ignored completely, or I just get crap reasons! So I shall ask again, WHY do I vote grylander?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    Twice?
    If he had copied that earlier, for a different post, and misclicked trying to copy something else for his post, then maybe it would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    Twice?
    twas. Means it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    Why would you quote something and refrain from talking about it?
    Maybe twas an accident
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    If we are going to get anywhere, I would suggest voting me, then making a case on ThePaladin because everyone else thinks he's town.
    Well I don't think hes town, and I don't think you are scum, therefore I shall not vote you... yet.
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    So what now? Are we going to sit here, find a lynch, be absolutely useless, or pressure people logically with a nice effort of teamwork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    He is confirmed for "scum-hunting"
    Oh. Alrighty, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrot Cake View Post
    all 3 Scum are in the following:
    3. Firebringer
    5. Spruance
    6. Calix/matzed
    8. Lolunicorn12358
    9. Gyrlander
    10. Never Unlucky
    Well what about paladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    What if I told you voting me would prove my innocence?
    Voting you proves your innocence at the cost of your life, dude. And if you are town, (I'll bet you are) then that is a loss of (semi)competent town.
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    So are we trying to do a full roleclaim, or are we just spouting about as the feeling passes? I mean, unknown was pressured, but like Mesk just kinda put it out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    There.
    Cool!

    I still don't much believe it, but that's okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    Hey that helped me too now I have a players list
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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Unlucky View Post
    Think ThePaladin claimed doctor as well.
    Oh did he? I'll mark that down, even though I'm not sure I believe that.
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    I can't find d2 page. Looking for a player list.
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    Anywho, gimme a good reason to vote Grylander and I shall. I always follow the mayors vote when I am confused in Town Of Salem, but this is smaller.
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    Alrighty, so here we are only on page 73, thank god. I'm back and I'll try to stay more active about now, I'll keep this tab open, is what I'm saying.
    Okay, so currently its Carrot as mayor, Mesk claiming citizen, Unknown claiming doctor, aaaand RLVG claim vig? am I missing any weird claims?
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    Well crap. I have now read through the pages (yea i totally didnt skip 8-9) this is NOT unfolding as I thought. Ima sleep, but i would like an explanation on why multiple consider me a possible lynch. Policy? Well how would I learn other than a game, be fair? Try not to make 20 or 30 pages in the 10 hours im going to take sleeping. Bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    I think it's interesting to see the new players being more smart about this than the older players. Either that or they are all scum.
    Okay, reading through the 72 friggin pages you people left me to read, and so far, it looks to me like its RLVG and Carrot being scummy, with Paladin, our probable Ultron, at the center. Thats why they are doing that, they see me as less a threat, and at the point i am at in the discussion there are 5 rather active players, (3 of which the scum) and you threaten them w/ intelligence. Yup, I logiced it.
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