Telling us that you don't know a lot of us hints that you could be a new player on the big scene, I deliberately avoided answering your questions since I didn't want to hint about my role or COM on day 1.
I understand hiding your role and hiding your alignment, but I don't understand why hiding your COM is so important. I mean, I use anonymous games to try out different playstyles that won't work with my identity (or to just get away with things because my meta allows me to get away with it).
hint: never a good idea to try and direct PRs openly.. especially the Vig. Much better to insert ideas in their heads without them noticing it. Think of the movie inception.
I actually don't mind directing power roles one bit. Group decisions tend to be better than individual decisions as a general rule, no matter your experience or intelligence.
It's day 1... with "no" lynch. Doing anything only serves to gain information about the setup or reveal something about your own role. Power roles should not be exposing themselves on day 1 by hinting that they know something that we dont.
On the rare occasion, some newbie might slip and expose himself as a scum but I always prefer to think that people are smarter than that.
As soon as you get your role card, you can begin and start scumhunting. I have caught numerous players or began scumreading them due to their first post. (which began rather innocuously; I can show you examples)
Scum players often have trouble masking themselves during the beginning stages of the game and coming out of the beginning stages of the game, which is when my gut is most effective.
You are jumping the gun again, you needed to wait till mid day 2 before throwing this up. Both town and scum should wait before starting real arguments.. dont do it on a no lynch day when 75% of posts are trolling and you can't tell the town from scum trolling.
I was mostly making that post to Make Things Happen. Again, once role cards are sent out, you can begin scumhunting, and when
nothing is happening, as town, you want to make people do things so that you can get a better read on them.
If I see an action that both town and scum can do easily, and you can't distinguish between them, I'm going to make them talk about things that can make me more easily distinguish between them (causal and mindset analysis).
Day 2 --
My stuff with Parcher was mostly me trying to hardcore tunnel on someone to make them react. If he imploded at my early pressure, I can set up a case to lynch him, or if he responds with gusto, I can switch off to easier targets. (You'll notice that I stopped tunneling on him once he provided content)
Supports Domri directing vig/jailor. "hypothetical vig" meaning he either did not read the obvious extremist on the role list or is just trying to make others that didnt' read the role list think so .. I'm leaning more towards he didn't see it... and that Vraska is not the Vig. Mention of the jester is a possibility.... except that I know that I'm a jester and I don't think that there are 2 jesters. As for hating the playstyle - you are gonna hate me.
Yeah, this is mostly role-read stuff. ("It's quite annoying, and in open setup games I tend to favor going for town rolereads over everything else which are obviously hard to explain to the class.")
1- day 1 posts are trolly by most people.. not just scum
2- talking in 3rd person is more of a COM thing rather that scum thing
other than that... there is nothing really to analyze on day 1 in Ajanis posts... nothing really stands out which is what has got me puzzeled about Domris interest in her.
More just a lack of content. (you guys say that fluffposting is null, I find it scummy; I was jumping on low-hanging fruit here)
Well, I know why Meshuvel is going after Ugin, and I'm guessing Vraska does not since he is pre-occupied trying to get a lynch going on Parcher.
More like defending players who actually play the game (I assigned light town reads to analyzers and scum reads to people who are just drifting along)
Just because someone thinks that something is worth pursuing doesn't mean that they have to jump onto a train and run after only that one lead.. patience can lead to more information. And in this case, the case against Ajani is weak ... its just because there isn't any other obvious scum lead that makes that one worth looking into.
Listing out who you think is scum and not voting is scummy. (I can go more in-depth)
Mounting an argument on Glissa right now was near impossible with only day 1 troll posts.
I could literally case anyone in the game based on low/no-content posts. (I'm sure it won't work for you, given that you don't think active lurking/contentless posting/trolling as scummy due to your experience, but a fair amount of people do once you show them why)
Since when does day vig give instant results? It was always at the end of the day in Elixirs previous FMs and nothing has shown that something has changed .. so I'll assume you didn't play or read FM5.
Also... directing the Vig to waste his day shot is a terrible idea and is scummy.
Why is directing the vig's daykill scummy, again? You can use it as a second lynch!
(and in all the other sites I've played in dayvigs give instant results, so that was just me going off experience)
Good grief... what is with this town trying to direct the vig to do everything.
See: above.
Well with 1 sheriff claim already out and Glissa marching off to the gallows, setting up vig targets would seem like the next best choice for a Pr that has info. But the way you ask for information is just pure meta based.. Asking them directly doesn't yield the best results... and especially Parcher who is strong willed, if he doesn't want to answer, he won't.
*repeats spiel about getting town to talk about stuff that allows me to get better reads on them*
I'd say its more of a COM tell than a town tell, it just happens that the people who are doing it are town. But they are also the ones I consider to be analyzers.
I did this a whole lot on Azuriae's S-FM and was wagonned for it repeatedly, heh. (Going to take the Devil's Advocate route and go for the vig shot instead of the sheriff shot, guys!)
Ok, now you are fishing for too many.. you might reveal his gambit/role if you continue this discussion. Although if Dack answers, it will shed light on what he is up to.
Why is asking players for their reads fishing on their role?
Your pressure hasn't accomplished much yet..
Would do better if a sheriff didn't reveal. (also, there's like 34 players, heh)
And what do you plan on doing with this information?
*repeats spiel about getting town to talk about stuff that allows me to get better reads on them*
Actually, I asked Tessebik for his reads to force him to participate/interact with scumbuddies. Most scum on this site die if you look at absence of interactions w/other scum.
Heavy directing the vig.. BAD! Why aren't you following up on your Parcher lead now?
Uh, because I *think* he produced content around this point, and I'm not an investigative role?
Originally Posted by The Boy with the Bad Leg
@host: you still didnt explain, why softlynch was removed at all and why this wasnt in the setup
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i maek him traget who?
