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[QUOTE=Helz;812118]Its a PH balance thing a comedian made me aware of. You dont want to know[/QUOTE]

Ya I understood after a few tries of reading :(

Originally Posted by Helz

Its a PH balance thing a comedian made me aware of. You dont want to know

Ya I understood after a few tries of reading

[QUOTE=Helz;812017]Hopefully ones who are not on the Keto diet.

For real... I have no idea why but girls trade a few pounds for a very foul smell down under[/QUOTE]

what the fuck does this MEAN

Originally Posted by Helz

Hopefully ones who are not on the Keto diet.

For real... I have no idea why but girls trade a few pounds for a very foul smell down under

what the fuck does this MEAN

[QUOTE=Efekannn02;809487]and that'll make you a gay person[/QUOTE]

Why u gotta label bro. Free love.

Originally Posted by Efekannn02

and that'll make you a gay person

Why u gotta label bro. Free love.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;809097]And here I thought people liked furries while being humans themselves...

But I'm sure I would make a hot furry.[/QUOTE]

prove it

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

And here I thought people liked furries while being humans themselves...

But I'm sure I would make a hot furry.

prove it

[QUOTE=Arsonist;808979]I'm not a furry.
Cryptonic is.[/QUOTE]

Ayy I'll try anything at least once

Originally Posted by Arsonist

I'm not a furry.
Cryptonic is.

Ayy I'll try anything at least once

[QUOTE=Kenny;808835]No, people do not "work up the courage to actually fuck any animal." The fact those few who choose furry costumes as a means of combatting their zoophilic desires shows that they do have common human morales and decency or whatever. You don't abandon your values "because you work up the courage".[/QUOTE]

Its called escalation. It always a concern with every urge and instinct, especially ones with regard to sexual desire.

Originally Posted by Kenny

No, people do not "work up the courage to actually fuck any animal." The fact those few who choose furry costumes as a means of combatting their zoophilic desires shows that they do have common human morales and decency or whatever. You don't abandon your values "because you work up the courage".

Its called escalation. It always a concern with every urge and instinct, especially ones with regard to sexual desire.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;808833]I am speaking from a place of personal experience here when I say this is not something that happens.

If you can find some research that could back your opinions then maybe we can progress past this brick wall of communication. But so far what I see is discrimination based on the actions of minorities of the movement, and that kind of discrimination is frowned upon with literally anything else.[/QUOTE]

I'm not against furries, though. It's not discrimination.
I'm just saying that people should look out for others in the community to ensure that the sex life stays healthy by offering support for each other.

Also, animal abuse for sure happens. It's just not reported because animals can't report it? People would definitely have sex with people in animal costumes or inanimate objects made to look like animals before working up the courage to actually fuck any animal.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

I am speaking from a place of personal experience here when I say this is not something that happens.

If you can find some research that could back your opinions then maybe we can progress past this brick wall of communication. But so far what I see is discrimination based on the actions of minorities of the movement, and that kind of discrimination is frowned upon with literally anything else.

I'm not against furries, though. It's not discrimination.
I'm just saying that people should look out for others in the community to ensure that the sex life stays healthy by offering support for each other.

Also, animal abuse for sure happens. It's just not reported because animals can't report it? People would definitely have sex with people in animal costumes or inanimate objects made to look like animals before working up the courage to actually fuck any animal.

[QUOTE=Arsonist;808824]Bet only 1% or less of those "18%" had sex with any animals except humans.[/QUOTE]

1% too many.

Originally Posted by Arsonist

Bet only 1% or less of those "18%" had sex with any animals except humans.

1% too many.

[QUOTE=Arsonist;808823]You mentioned animals with human features.
And if you don't find animals with human features attaractive, it doesn't mean that pepole that find it attaractive are mentally ill you dumbass. It means you are mentally ill because you can't accept their culture. While furries are harmless to society, you throw shit at them and their culture. It can grow up to killing pepole, which means you're more dangerous for society than furries.

You can give an infraction, it will only confirm how immature you are.[/QUOTE]

I think it's one thing to find humans with animal features attractive, but good job admitting you find animals with human features attractive, therefore admitting you find animals attractive.

Seek out support please, you have a problem.

Originally Posted by Arsonist

You mentioned animals with human features.
And if you don't find animals with human features attaractive, it doesn't mean that pepole that find it attaractive are mentally ill you dumbass. It means you are mentally ill because you can't accept their culture. While furries are harmless to society, you throw shit at them and their culture. It can grow up to killing pepole, which means you're more dangerous for society than furries.

You can give an infraction, it will only confirm how immature you are.

I think it's one thing to find humans with animal features attractive, but good job admitting you find animals with human features attractive, therefore admitting you find animals attractive.

Seek out support please, you have a problem.

[QUOTE=Kenny;808798]Adding a fursuit to the D/s situation you mentioned doesn't make it subhuman. For that to happen you'd need completely different factors that could be just as easily be added without a fursuit.[/QUOTE]

I would be concerned in those situations as well

Originally Posted by Kenny

Adding a fursuit to the D/s situation you mentioned doesn't make it subhuman. For that to happen you'd need completely different factors that could be just as easily be added without a fursuit.

I would be concerned in those situations as well

Actually I guess if you do it for like 7 years to cover up a beastiality fetish, you might eventually get bored. Then you start doing group sex to fill that hole. But it's still not enough. Your friend jim tells you about this party, and when you show up someone has brought a wolf and has subdued it then you be enticed to proceed instead of leave. Hence a support group to help keep the sex healthy.

Actually I guess if you do it for like 7 years to cover up a beastiality fetish, you might eventually get bored. Then you start doing group sex to fill that hole. But it's still not enough. Your friend jim tells you about this party, and when you show up someone has brought a wolf and has subdued it then you be enticed to proceed instead of leave. Hence a support group to help keep the sex healthy.

[QUOTE=Kenny;808794]That'd apply to pretty much every D/s situation and isn't really related to furries at all.[/QUOTE]

You think so?
I mean, most D/s relationships are more about adding structure and solidified expectations, enforced by rewards/punishments. some people thrive on order, and knowing what is expected of them day to day. Still treated like a human.

Originally Posted by Kenny

That'd apply to pretty much every D/s situation and isn't really related to furries at all.

You think so?
I mean, most D/s relationships are more about adding structure and solidified expectations, enforced by rewards/punishments. some people thrive on order, and knowing what is expected of them day to day. Still treated like a human.

[QUOTE=yzb25;808790]tbh I'm also a little curious about what this "therapy" would involve. People can't really unattract themselves from things. I hope you don't have some creepy aversion therapy in mind lol.

p;edit surely the best you can do is equip them with the moral tools to understand what is and isn't bad, regardless of their instincts... idk[/QUOTE]

I said talking to a therapist.
so, typical therapist things. someone for you to get everything off your chest and give you coping mechanisms for your day to day life.

Originally Posted by yzb25

tbh I'm also a little curious about what this "therapy" would involve. People can't really unattract themselves from things. I hope you don't have some creepy aversion therapy in mind lol.

p;edit surely the best you can do is equip them with the moral tools to understand what is and isn't bad, regardless of their instincts... idk

I said talking to a therapist.
so, typical therapist things. someone for you to get everything off your chest and give you coping mechanisms for your day to day life.

[QUOTE=yzb25;808788]I can see why you'd have that sort of reaction to Crypt, but I don't think his intention is to shame people or anything.

I think he is (justifiably) concerned about whether furry culture is indicative of beastiality. Maybe it is. Hell, maybe the uniform thing is indicative of my latent raging paedophillia. If that's reality, so be it. We can still have a civil conversation about it and try our best to understand eachother and ourselves and work out our problems.

We can overcome this! :D[/QUOTE]

idc that ppl are fucking in fur suits lol. i was just saying i think there could be specific reasons for people to be doing it that people should be concerned for.
but maybe i'm wrong; i mean, all someone who wants to fuck animals has to do is buy an animal and fuck it. so, maybe it isn't a red flag the more I look at it.

But, I'd still be concerned for the sub in that situation if the feel so worthless that they want to be treated subhuman. it seems very depressing to me.

Originally Posted by yzb25

I can see why you'd have that sort of reaction to Crypt, but I don't think his intention is to shame people or anything.

I think he is (justifiably) concerned about whether furry culture is indicative of beastiality. Maybe it is. Hell, maybe the uniform thing is indicative of my latent raging paedophillia. If that's reality, so be it. We can still have a civil conversation about it and try our best to understand eachother and ourselves and work out our problems.

We can overcome this!

idc that ppl are fucking in fur suits lol. i was just saying i think there could be specific reasons for people to be doing it that people should be concerned for.
but maybe i'm wrong; i mean, all someone who wants to fuck animals has to do is buy an animal and fuck it. so, maybe it isn't a red flag the more I look at it.

But, I'd still be concerned for the sub in that situation if the feel so worthless that they want to be treated subhuman. it seems very depressing to me.

[QUOTE=Kenny;808783]They love their shit, being forced to stop loving can be srsly painful.[/QUOTE]

Where do you draw the line?
If you knew of a person who was having sex with extremely young looking women while dressing them as children, or in diapers.. Obviously this would be an act between 2 consenting adults, but do you not think the Dom in this situation probably needs some support and help?

Originally Posted by Kenny

They love their shit, being forced to stop loving can be srsly painful.

Where do you draw the line?
If you knew of a person who was having sex with extremely young looking women while dressing them as children, or in diapers.. Obviously this would be an act between 2 consenting adults, but do you not think the Dom in this situation probably needs some support and help?

[QUOTE=Kenny;808783]Do you find men attractive? Do you find jews attractive? Would you not date someone because they are black?
Helz honestly gave a good answer here. Just leave ppl be and don't try to force some therapy or red flags or whatever on them. They love their shit, being forced to stop loving can be srsly painful.[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with what I said lol?
I specifically mention animals, and you're comparing them to jews & black people? gtfo man lol

Originally Posted by Kenny

Do you find men attractive? Do you find jews attractive? Would you not date someone because they are black?
Helz honestly gave a good answer here. Just leave ppl be and don't try to force some therapy or red flags or whatever on them. They love their shit, being forced to stop loving can be srsly painful.

What does that have to do with what I said lol?
I specifically mention animals, and you're comparing them to jews & black people? gtfo man lol

[QUOTE=yzb25;808780]You're being at least 40% serious here so I'm gonna be at least 40% serious here.

I don't think wanting to fuck a human dressed up like a cartoon animal is in any way a "red flag".

It's very difficult to articulate, but I've come to babysit something of a pet theory that people build these... "aesthetics"... these abstract realities in their own mind that correlate to something in the real world without actually existing. Sometimes people find these "aesthetics" attractive without feeling any attraction to the real thing it's based off.

A good example is rape fantasies. Almost noone who has rape fantasies wants to be raped. In fact, it doesn't really make logical sense to *want* to be raped. That kind of destroys the point. Yet, people build in their minds some kind of "aesthetic" of this intense, adrenalin pumping scenario where they're put in a primal fight or flight situation where reason goes out the window and people are submitting to their wildest desires. This "aesthetic" is completely detatched from the actual experience of being raped, but people fantasize about it anyway.

Similarly to the rape situation, I would conjecture these people have constructed some kind of "aesthetic" as they've grown up. They find something warm, primal and genuine in the associations to animals and nature. They're also probably influenced by anthropomorphized characters they felt an attraction to when they were younger and their sexuality was still developing.

If bestiality was really what they were interested in, they'd show more interest in actual animals and less interest in the aesthetic. I don't think what they've developed is something they should be worried about or something they should even think is weird. If it brings them fulfillment then that's awesome and even beautiful, actually. There are people in this world that have developed sexualities that directly depend on the suffering of others or themselves. People like that are in a much more complicated situation imo.[/QUOTE]

Do you find animals with human features to be sexually attractive?

Originally Posted by yzb25

You're being at least 40% serious here so I'm gonna be at least 40% serious here.

I don't think wanting to fuck a human dressed up like a cartoon animal is in any way a "red flag".

It's very difficult to articulate, but I've come to babysit something of a pet theory that people build these... "aesthetics"... these abstract realities in their own mind that correlate to something in the real world without actually existing. Sometimes people find these "aesthetics" attractive without feeling any attraction to the real thing it's based off.

A good example is rape fantasies. Almost noone who has rape fantasies wants to be raped. In fact, it doesn't really make logical sense to *want* to be raped. That kind of destroys the point. Yet, people build in their minds some kind of "aesthetic" of this intense, adrenalin pumping scenario where they're put in a primal fight or flight situation where reason goes out the window and people are submitting to their wildest desires. This "aesthetic" is completely detatched from the actual experience of being raped, but people fantasize about it anyway.

Similarly to the rape situation, I would conjecture these people have constructed some kind of "aesthetic" as they've grown up. They find something warm, primal and genuine in the associations to animals and nature. They're also probably influenced by anthropomorphized characters they felt an attraction to when they were younger and their sexuality was still developing.

If bestiality was really what they were interested in, they'd show more interest in actual animals and less interest in the aesthetic. I don't think what they've developed is something they should be worried about or something they should even think is weird. If it brings them fulfillment then that's awesome and even beautiful, actually. There are people in this world that have developed sexualities that directly depend on the suffering of others or themselves. People like that are in a much more complicated situation imo.

Do you find animals with human features to be sexually attractive?

someone wanting to fuck an adult human that is made to resemble an animal is just as bad as someone wanting to fuck an adult human that is made to resemble a child. both are serious red flags, and one should talk to a therapist or join a support group.


however, i think it's fine if consenting adults are using it in a D/s relationship, meant to dehumanize the sub while reinforcing the Dom as the "owner"? I think it kind of makes sense.


i mean, dressing up like an animal it's not something i'm particularly interested in at all and it wouldn't be what i seek out, but if she's hot enough then i mean does it really matter?
like if i went over to a girls house the first time, and she comes into her living room wearing just cat ears & tail and crawling around meowing, scratching at the couch, and rubbing against my leg... yea i'd think she's fucking insane. but if she's of quality in other aspects of her life, then might as well roll with it.

someone wanting to fuck an adult human that is made to resemble an animal is just as bad as someone wanting to fuck an adult human that is made to resemble a child. both are serious red flags, and one should talk to a therapist or join a support group.


however, i think it's fine if consenting adults are using it in a D/s relationship, meant to dehumanize the sub while reinforcing the Dom as the "owner"? I think it kind of makes sense.


i mean, dressing up like an animal it's not something i'm particularly interested in at all and it wouldn't be what i seek out, but if she's hot enough then i mean does it really matter?
like if i went over to a girls house the first time, and she comes into her living room wearing just cat ears & tail and crawling around meowing, scratching at the couch, and rubbing against my leg... yea i'd think she's fucking insane. but if she's of quality in other aspects of her life, then might as well roll with it.

[QUOTE=Arsonist;808599]U know, i made a thread to troll this guy.
Hopefully he reads it.[/QUOTE]

he hasn't ur not cool enough

Originally Posted by Arsonist

U know, i made a thread to troll this guy.
Hopefully he reads it.

he hasn't ur not cool enough

Dis new selfie thread??

Dis new selfie thread??