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[QUOTE=ika;680695]i said it in dead but i will say it here

a det claim might of broguht you maybe a day (if stealth didnt defend) but the cit claim was an auto-loss becasue for me, not even a noob would do that.

i think if the game forced cits to randomly visit people it would be more funny and get awayable[/QUOTE]

Yeah, making everyone visit someone would add more spice to the WIFOM situation

Originally Posted by ika

i said it in dead but i will say it here

a det claim might of broguht you maybe a day (if stealth didnt defend) but the cit claim was an auto-loss becasue for me, not even a noob would do that.

i think if the game forced cits to randomly visit people it would be more funny and get awayable

Yeah, making everyone visit someone would add more spice to the WIFOM situation

[QUOTE=ika;680613]Gry did jack shit like he always does and never learns

your early reads were actualy spot on too (called out fury and mesk) i jsut wished you stuck with them more. overall you were the town needed but everyone else had their head up their ass

unknown tried as the gaem went on and the fact sj could not just stop and revaulate and instead decided to go "well fuck you" is what casued towns loss

SJ did nothing that really "helped" town come the end of it, he was the single hand that doomed the town



i agree on the stealth thing very much i asked why and go no follow up. the same thign with defending adejch, there was no reasons to defend him. he was caught for argubly wrong reasons yes. but it didnt justifiy the defense of it. [B]he was caught seeing me so he was forced to claim det (and yes any cit claim is sucide)[/B] and then he would of been cced and forced to out results each night and then edventaly lynched for it

im gonna read scum chat but if what you say is true i dont blame you one bit for playing as you did then. im flaming not only them but town itself for letting you get by on it.[/QUOTE]

When I was like, 100% scumread, I gave up and wanted to make the game funnier. I was really hoping for the "Noobslip" excuse, but I failed like, really hard :)

GG, Congrats to [MENTION=7820]Fury[/MENTION] for his almost-solo-win ( [MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION] , defending me wasn't the smartest move there :'c I regret my missplay, yeah, but meh, it's already over, right?)

Originally Posted by ika

Gry did jack shit like he always does and never learns

your early reads were actualy spot on too (called out fury and mesk) i jsut wished you stuck with them more. overall you were the town needed but everyone else had their head up their ass

unknown tried as the gaem went on and the fact sj could not just stop and revaulate and instead decided to go "well fuck you" is what casued towns loss

SJ did nothing that really "helped" town come the end of it, he was the single hand that doomed the town



i agree on the stealth thing very much i asked why and go no follow up. the same thign with defending adejch, there was no reasons to defend him. he was caught for argubly wrong reasons yes. but it didnt justifiy the defense of it. he was caught seeing me so he was forced to claim det (and yes any cit claim is sucide) and then he would of been cced and forced to out results each night and then edventaly lynched for it

im gonna read scum chat but if what you say is true i dont blame you one bit for playing as you did then. im flaming not only them but town itself for letting you get by on it.

When I was like, 100% scumread, I gave up and wanted to make the game funnier. I was really hoping for the "Noobslip" excuse, but I failed like, really hard

GG, Congrats to @Fury for his almost-solo-win ( @Stealthbomber16 , defending me wasn't the smartest move there :'c I regret my missplay, yeah, but meh, it's already over, right?)

[QUOTE=ika;680613]Gry did jack shit like he always does and never learns

your early reads were actualy spot on too (called out fury and mesk) i jsut wished you stuck with them more. overall you were the town needed but everyone else had their head up their ass

unknown tried as the gaem went on and the fact sj could not just stop and revaulate and instead decided to go "well fuck you" is what casued towns loss

SJ did nothing that really "helped" town come the end of it, he was the single hand that doomed the town



i agree on the stealth thing very much i asked why and go no follow up. the same thign with defending [B][SIZE=7]adejch[/SIZE][/B], there was no reasons to defend him. he was caught for argubly wrong reasons yes. but it didnt justifiy the defense of it. he was caught seeing me so he was forced to claim det (and yes any cit claim is sucide) and then he would of been cced and forced to out results each night and then edventaly lynched for it

im gonna read scum chat but if what you say is true i dont blame you one bit for playing as you did then. im flaming not only them but town itself for letting you get by on it.[/QUOTE]

I just wanted you to have my name right once...
I gave up trying a long time ago

Originally Posted by ika

Gry did jack shit like he always does and never learns

your early reads were actualy spot on too (called out fury and mesk) i jsut wished you stuck with them more. overall you were the town needed but everyone else had their head up their ass

unknown tried as the gaem went on and the fact sj could not just stop and revaulate and instead decided to go "well fuck you" is what casued towns loss

SJ did nothing that really "helped" town come the end of it, he was the single hand that doomed the town



i agree on the stealth thing very much i asked why and go no follow up. the same thign with defending adejch, there was no reasons to defend him. he was caught for argubly wrong reasons yes. but it didnt justifiy the defense of it. he was caught seeing me so he was forced to claim det (and yes any cit claim is sucide) and then he would of been cced and forced to out results each night and then edventaly lynched for it

im gonna read scum chat but if what you say is true i dont blame you one bit for playing as you did then. im flaming not only them but town itself for letting you get by on it.

I just wanted you to have my name right once...
I gave up trying a long time ago

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;678239][MENTION=6424]ika[/MENTION] how confident are you in Alijach being joker?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter, I'm not the joker, lol

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

@ika how confident are you in Alijach being joker?

It doesn't matter, I'm not the joker, lol

[QUOTE=ccantman;678230]You could make the same argument on why Allijach is voting me with the understanding he is going to die if I am lynched[/QUOTE]

22 made a valid point, with people tunneling me day 1, without knowing how to valid defend myself, and dying as a reg townie isn't fun I guess. I'm already claiming it, I'm not joker for the reasons that I stated before, and if I made a mistake for trying to make my game more fun, then I deserve to die, plus, watching the other roles such as joker and mafia play might be fun and I can learn different attitudes and how to make a solid defense. My death won't make a difference and will add a lot of fun to the game, allowing the real joker to get maybe 3 guys, and town looking for him and all those things. Go ahead, if you lynch me, you will add more fun as ika is wrong about my role. I'm voting for my death to add fun to the game, tunneling and blocking are 2 things that make the game less fun. I'm here to save you all

Originally Posted by ccantman

You could make the same argument on why Allijach is voting me with the understanding he is going to die if I am lynched

22 made a valid point, with people tunneling me day 1, without knowing how to valid defend myself, and dying as a reg townie isn't fun I guess. I'm already claiming it, I'm not joker for the reasons that I stated before, and if I made a mistake for trying to make my game more fun, then I deserve to die, plus, watching the other roles such as joker and mafia play might be fun and I can learn different attitudes and how to make a solid defense. My death won't make a difference and will add a lot of fun to the game, allowing the real joker to get maybe 3 guys, and town looking for him and all those things. Go ahead, if you lynch me, you will add more fun as ika is wrong about my role. I'm voting for my death to add fun to the game, tunneling and blocking are 2 things that make the game less fun. I'm here to save you all

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;678213]no[/QUOTE]

Targeting a good player as the 1st target for joker: Dumb.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

no

Targeting a good player as the 1st target for joker: Dumb.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;678211]This is a trashy way of defending yourself.[/QUOTE]

I'm not defending myself, I'm just saying one of the many scenarios that could happen. Ika is too blind trying to get me to find other possible scums

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

This is a trashy way of defending yourself.

I'm not defending myself, I'm just saying one of the many scenarios that could happen. Ika is too blind trying to get me to find other possible scums

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;678209]wat[/QUOTE]

I'm surprised at the fact that ika, as an experience player, would think that he's the main priority for a first-bountykill-target by the joker.
I re-read my first post on Joker's attitude, and I think that targeting someone with little experience would be the "must" for the first-bountykill-target.

Get it?

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

wat

I'm surprised at the fact that ika, as an experience player, would think that he's the main priority for a first-bountykill-target by the joker.
I re-read my first post on Joker's attitude, and I think that targeting someone with little experience would be the "must" for the first-bountykill-target.

Get it?

[QUOTE=ika;678061]joker need agents dead. if adjech is joker its moot point becasue jester will kill him or he will be lynched.

joker benifites more by removing both targets instead of jsut leaving them be.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that, the worst case scenario can happen, as I'm not the joker, and there could be, 5? kills tonight?

Originally Posted by ika

joker need agents dead. if adjech is joker its moot point becasue jester will kill him or he will be lynched.

joker benifites more by removing both targets instead of jsut leaving them be.

Keep in mind that, the worst case scenario can happen, as I'm not the joker, and there could be, 5? kills tonight?

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;678206]So it seems like this is the plan then?

1. Lynch ccantman
2. ccantman shoots alijach
3. Profit

or

2. ccantman shoots someone else
3. make top 10 anime betrayal memes[/QUOTE]

This seems as a really good idea, but just to make it clear, I find it weird that IKA thinks that I'm stupid enough to "TARGET HIM FIRST" if I'm joker, I said it before, targeting a noob first seems like the good idea, specially if they're afk like rachyl and ares. KEK.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

So it seems like this is the plan then?

1. Lynch ccantman
2. ccantman shoots alijach
3. Profit

or

2. ccantman shoots someone else
3. make top 10 anime betrayal memes

This seems as a really good idea, but just to make it clear, I find it weird that IKA thinks that I'm stupid enough to "TARGET HIM FIRST" if I'm joker, I said it before, targeting a noob first seems like the good idea, specially if they're afk like rachyl and ares. KEK.

[QUOTE=ika;678058]any cit who did not self visit deserves to be dead. he was in here ealier and never answered anything

the indicators are about your posting itself and what you are doing. its not about crumbs

i would of claimed it regardless. i had results i was waiting for the 24 hr mark. if you were reading the day phase at all it was clear i had results that incriminated him and was planning on revealing. when im makred for joker i consider myself dead man walking so me not claiming (and you not claiming if your a pr with or without results) is anti-town becasue joker cna just kill you and outright make it that you have nothing to say.[/QUOTE]

Btw, I was checking this thread a little bit, like 3 post per reccess I had. It's really hard to understand you, specially when you get mad and don't care about your grammar, or not caring about how to write my name right half of the time.

Originally Posted by ika

any cit who did not self visit deserves to be dead. he was in here ealier and never answered anything

the indicators are about your posting itself and what you are doing. its not about crumbs

i would of claimed it regardless. i had results i was waiting for the 24 hr mark. if you were reading the day phase at all it was clear i had results that incriminated him and was planning on revealing. when im makred for joker i consider myself dead man walking so me not claiming (and you not claiming if your a pr with or without results) is anti-town becasue joker cna just kill you and outright make it that you have nothing to say.

Btw, I was checking this thread a little bit, like 3 post per reccess I had. It's really hard to understand you, specially when you get mad and don't care about your grammar, or not caring about how to write my name right half of the time.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;678204]Doesn't really matter at this point. L-2 is fine this late in the game, just don't feel comfy with L-1. We got 15 hours left, thats 15 hours for Rachyl and Ares to acknowledge their existence.[/QUOTE]

Then I'll go ahead, and rest my little head in my bed.

I will be in morpheus's arms half of that time

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Doesn't really matter at this point. L-2 is fine this late in the game, just don't feel comfy with L-1. We got 15 hours left, thats 15 hours for Rachyl and Ares to acknowledge their existence.

Then I'll go ahead, and rest my little head in my bed.

I will be in morpheus's arms half of that time

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;678198]I don't get why you would feel the need to visit someone. Let alone Ika lord and saviour.[/QUOTE]

Because I thought the whole point of the game was to have a WIFOM. That's all. Imagine if someone scumreads me (noshit) and I claim pr, (trying to avoid what happened to rachyl in my first game), I can be killed to save one of the PR for the townies, plus, wasting time for the mafia to win, because, until you find the real joker, then mafia can't win.

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

I don't get why you would feel the need to visit someone. Let alone Ika lord and saviour.

Because I thought the whole point of the game was to have a WIFOM. That's all. Imagine if someone scumreads me (noshit) and I claim pr, (trying to avoid what happened to rachyl in my first game), I can be killed to save one of the PR for the townies, plus, wasting time for the mafia to win, because, until you find the real joker, then mafia can't win.

[vote]ccantman[/vote]

My bad

-vote ccantman

My bad

[vote]Alijach[/vote]

-vote Alijach

[QUOTE=ika;677672][MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION] why are you voting me, iirc you have retracted any reasons to scum read me? trying to defend your buddy?
how come you instantly thought 22 was lookout and not a detective?

[MENTION=29085]ccantman[/MENTION] are you hardclaiming jester?

[MENTION=8508]SuperJack[/MENTION] whats your read on Alijach

[MENTION=27847]Alijach[/MENTION] answer my questions instead of dodging it and using stealth as a marter to help you

[MENTION=28193]Mesk514[/MENTION] and [MENTION=28243]Unknown1234[/MENTION]: voth of you help me get a claim out of alij. also enough with the bloc stuff we can all exist in it and go form there. If you want me to entertain you, help me and then we can talk about whos not old enough to bloc with who[/QUOTE]
I said it before, rewrite your questions well structured and I'll get what are you asking.


[QUOTE=SuperJack;677820]LOL If any Citizen when to visit anyone other than themselves, they deserve to die.[/QUOTE]
Then I need to admit it, I'm a citizen that visited someone. Sorry.


[QUOTE=ika;677912]right. i also have a meta sense of why he did me/stealth:

he targets me becasue he saw my cult game and knows im a vocal player and can amke myself look town quickly. it would also be eliminating a veteran player in general

he would use stalth as a secon becasue he was his mentor alone.

thats why i find a claim of detective to be unlikely as well. why would he target me instead of someone like his mentor?[/QUOTE]

I missed my whole game for my father, do you really think i would read another game that isn't mine? plus, I'm barely Reading this because your timezones doesn't match with mine

Also, why target my mentor, wouldn't that be really suspicious at first? It's like targeting SJ because he presented me this game, or a colour name in the mod.

[QUOTE=Mesk514;677936]believe me when i say, in your situation its easier to ride then to take it doggy... only take it doggy when you're drunk enough to know you won't feel anything[/QUOTE]

I'm taking notes.


*I'm missing about 9 pages, so... this is my answer for now. I'm really tired, and If I need to sacrifice my booty to go to sleep, then go for it.*

I visited ika because I thought that visiting another would help, which, as I read further, didn't help at all. I'm not noob enough to make a "good" player the first-target for the bounty kill, If I was the joker, my first target would be Rachyl, now that I think about it more, because how she played in my first game, and how she's really afk.

Originally Posted by ika

@Stealthbomber16 why are you voting me, iirc you have retracted any reasons to scum read me? trying to defend your buddy?
how come you instantly thought 22 was lookout and not a detective?

@ccantman are you hardclaiming jester?

@SuperJack whats your read on Alijach

@Alijach answer my questions instead of dodging it and using stealth as a marter to help you

@Mesk514 and @Unknown1234 : voth of you help me get a claim out of alij. also enough with the bloc stuff we can all exist in it and go form there. If you want me to entertain you, help me and then we can talk about whos not old enough to bloc with who

I said it before, rewrite your questions well structured and I'll get what are you asking.

Originally Posted by SuperJack

LOL If any Citizen when to visit anyone other than themselves, they deserve to die.

Then I need to admit it, I'm a citizen that visited someone. Sorry.

Originally Posted by ika

right. i also have a meta sense of why he did me/stealth:

he targets me becasue he saw my cult game and knows im a vocal player and can amke myself look town quickly. it would also be eliminating a veteran player in general

he would use stalth as a secon becasue he was his mentor alone.

thats why i find a claim of detective to be unlikely as well. why would he target me instead of someone like his mentor?

I missed my whole game for my father, do you really think i would read another game that isn't mine? plus, I'm barely Reading this because your timezones doesn't match with mine

Also, why target my mentor, wouldn't that be really suspicious at first? It's like targeting SJ because he presented me this game, or a colour name in the mod.

Originally Posted by Mesk514

believe me when i say, in your situation its easier to ride then to take it doggy... only take it doggy when you're drunk enough to know you won't feel anything

I'm taking notes.


*I'm missing about 9 pages, so... this is my answer for now. I'm really tired, and If I need to sacrifice my booty to go to sleep, then go for it.*

I visited ika because I thought that visiting another would help, which, as I read further, didn't help at all. I'm not noob enough to make a "good" player the first-target for the bounty kill, If I was the joker, my first target would be Rachyl, now that I think about it more, because how she played in my first game, and how she's really afk.

Hey everyone! i'm back from school. page 10, going to read all 24, wait me a bit!

Hey everyone! i'm back from school. page 10, going to read all 24, wait me a bit!

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677623]48 hour days, so it's more like 42[/QUOTE]

Can't do math, that's a bad signal. Going to sleep. I'll be back in 10? hours

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

48 hour days, so it's more like 42

Can't do math, that's a bad signal. Going to sleep. I'll be back in 10? hours

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677614]First thing you gotta do is interact with people. You seem to be doing that a bit already so that works.

Then, you have to look at people's posts and think "why would they be doing this as scum/town? Does this seem normal or fake? What kind of reaction was that? Good/Bad?"

Applying pressure is good to see how people react under it. However, telling people it's a pressure attack does nothing, so make sure you provide evidence of suspicion and see where it goes from there.

Finally, you lynch scum. Don't forget to have fun too.[/QUOTE]

I'll take that in consideration for tomorrow, as I'm already too sleepy to keep going. we still have 18 hours left, right?

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

First thing you gotta do is interact with people. You seem to be doing that a bit already so that works.

Then, you have to look at people's posts and think "why would they be doing this as scum/town? Does this seem normal or fake? What kind of reaction was that? Good/Bad?"

Applying pressure is good to see how people react under it. However, telling people it's a pressure attack does nothing, so make sure you provide evidence of suspicion and see where it goes from there.

Finally, you lynch scum. Don't forget to have fun too.

I'll take that in consideration for tomorrow, as I'm already too sleepy to keep going. we still have 18 hours left, right?

[QUOTE=Fury;677594]All trolling aside, the most evidence that I can base a town read off of currently is one on SJ.
I suspect TBP is town power or jester.
I have heard that mesk is almost impossible to read, so I will let my question in the last post speak for itself.
Ika and unknown are blocking, so unless they are 2 pro 4 me they probably don't know they are aligned if they are both town. They wouldn't make it so obvious unless they are super godly and metagamed us.
Stealth seems to be pro town with his logic, but I haven't digested all of the posts yet, so I'm unsure if I fully agree with them yet. Tentative town read.

I don't have a solid read on anyone else. :weed:[/QUOTE]

Again, what's blocking? My senpai isn't here to help me this time :/

Originally Posted by Fury

All trolling aside, the most evidence that I can base a town read off of currently is one on SJ.
I suspect TBP is town power or jester.
I have heard that mesk is almost impossible to read, so I will let my question in the last post speak for itself.
Ika and unknown are blocking, so unless they are 2 pro 4 me they probably don't know they are aligned if they are both town. They wouldn't make it so obvious unless they are super godly and metagamed us.
Stealth seems to be pro town with his logic, but I haven't digested all of the posts yet, so I'm unsure if I fully agree with them yet. Tentative town read.

I don't have a solid read on anyone else.

Again, what's blocking? My senpai isn't here to help me this time :/

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677590]IKA told me you were scum. You better earn his trust and be a good scum hunter!![/QUOTE]

Well, be my in game mentor then, what should I do to be a good scum hunter?

*We are number one starts playing as backgroundmusic*

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

IKA told me you were scum. You better earn his trust and be a good scum hunter!!

Well, be my in game mentor then, what should I do to be a good scum hunter?

*We are number one starts playing as backgroundmusic*

[QUOTE=The Burning Phoenix;677577]Well no one is talking, I'm going to do something else, later.[/QUOTE]

Well, it's going to be 22:00 here, I need to sleep, I wake up tomorrow at 5:00 and go school. I'll check whenever I can.
I think before going to sleep, I'll check more post to see who I will vote

Originally Posted by The Burning Phoenix

Well no one is talking, I'm going to do something else, later.

Well, it's going to be 22:00 here, I need to sleep, I wake up tomorrow at 5:00 and go school. I'll check whenever I can.
I think before going to sleep, I'll check more post to see who I will vote

[QUOTE=The Burning Phoenix;677572]RLVG isn't even in the game, why should we vote him XD[/QUOTE]

you mean the 14th player?
lying hidden somewhere in the Building?
the one they call Ultimate Despair?
i think you should watch out for him/her.

(Yes, danganronpa reference)

If the vote counted, it means he's the one deceiving us, and he IS a player. Checkmate.

Originally Posted by The Burning Phoenix

RLVG isn't even in the game, why should we vote him XD

you mean the 14th player?
lying hidden somewhere in the Building?
the one they call Ultimate Despair?
i think you should watch out for him/her.

(Yes, danganronpa reference)

If the vote counted, it means he's the one deceiving us, and he IS a player. Checkmate.

[QUOTE=Fury;677568]Ok just got here and 6 pages to read through. Only thing I see is ika and unknown blocking. Until I read the other shit, [vote]RLVG[/vote][/QUOTE]

Blocking?

Originally Posted by Fury

Ok just got here and 6 pages to read through. Only thing I see is ika and unknown blocking. Until I read the other shit,

-vote RLVG

Blocking?

[QUOTE=The Burning Phoenix;677567]Maybe scum ask town questions on how scum act so that they don't act like scum if they're scum.[/QUOTE]

like a "This is what we need to avoid" thing?

Originally Posted by The Burning Phoenix

Maybe scum ask town questions on how scum act so that they don't act like scum if they're scum.

like a "This is what we need to avoid" thing?

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677562]You found one already? Man you're making me look bad.

[vote]Alijach[/vote]

Time ta catch up.[/QUOTE]

I don't get it, why am I scum?
This happened in my first/last game, when for trying to answer questions, I'm called scum

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

You found one already? Man you're making me look bad.

-vote Alijach

Time ta catch up.

I don't get it, why am I scum?
This happened in my first/last game, when for trying to answer questions, I'm called scum

[QUOTE=The Burning Phoenix;677560][QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677556]ftfy[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677556]

What does that stand for?[/QUOTE]

Fixed that for you, it's when they "fix" "that" thing "for" "you"

[QUOTE=The Burning Phoenix;677560][QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677556]ftfy

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

What does that stand for?

Fixed that for you, it's when they "fix" "that" thing "for" "you"

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677559]Answer both :p[/QUOTE]

May you quote both, in a well structured way?
(sorry for being so slow)

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Answer both

May you quote both, in a well structured way?
(sorry for being so slow)

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677556]
I fail to see how this is relevant to his question.[/QUOTE]

I don't get the question, sorry. I'm trying to do my best to not shut off my brain and go to sleep

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

I fail to see how this is relevant to his question.

I don't get the question, sorry. I'm trying to do my best to not shut off my brain and go to sleep

[QUOTE=ika;677552]Answer my question as a pr who do you target and why? Same as being an agent

I got to go back to work bbl[/QUOTE]

The question is, If I was the joker, which POWER ROLES I want to get rid off first?

Originally Posted by ika

Answer my question as a pr who do you target and why? Same as being an agent

I got to go back to work bbl

The question is, If I was the joker, which POWER ROLES I want to get rid off first?

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677549]Power role.

Which scum?[/QUOTE]

I mean, joker doesn't know who's who, right? He only knows he's the joker and everyone else is against him, no?

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Power role.

Which scum?

I mean, joker doesn't know who's who, right? He only knows he's the joker and everyone else is against him, no?

[QUOTE=ika;677547]And as a pr?

[MENTION=28243]Unknown1234[/MENTION] I'm still at work but help me lynch scum plz[/QUOTE]

pr?

Originally Posted by ika

And as a pr?

@Unknown1234 I'm still at work but help me lynch scum plz

pr?

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;677544]Hi guys.[/QUOTE]

Hello

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Hi guys.

Hello

[QUOTE=ika;677541]Aijech, who would you pick as joker targets?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, maybe people that has some experience? I imagine I would target mesk because his "spoiler" and I suppose those are the roles that he win with? And SJ maybe? because he seems like a experienced player, being able to host and everything

Originally Posted by ika

Aijech, who would you pick as joker targets?

I don't know, maybe people that has some experience? I imagine I would target mesk because his "spoiler" and I suppose those are the roles that he win with? And SJ maybe? because he seems like a experienced player, being able to host and everything

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;677522]Thanks Joker for targeting me i feel special <3



Surprise! ColbyJack is hard to play with.



Neutral is better off just randoming the kill imo or shooting town to end the game in solo win. Its what I would do.
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I'm with TBP on this matter. Lynch is a town-controlled kill, and when they lose it the game is ended in most scenarios. Jester kill will remove a negative influence in exchange for the negative influence receiving a chance to kill someone.
In this scenario though its weird.

Also as a reminder: mafia has no night kill so the sooner we lynch the joker the better.



Mesk is always the jester.



I think you're drawing away from the joker lynch suggestions. Accusations on page 3 are kind of a weird scenario in this game.



You are playing very differently.



[COLOR="#00FFFF"]Immediate scumread.[/COLOR]


Is this your first game?
A lesson that everyone should learn immediately:
USE ALL OF THE FUCKING DAY.
DO NOT END IT EARLY.[/QUOTE]


I don't know how to "solo quote" something, but how does the scumread works? I mean, may you explain if you're calling him scum, or he's doing something to call someone scum? I don't get it, I had a mentor and he wasn't good enough to explain that to me :/

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Thanks Joker for targeting me i feel special <3



Surprise! ColbyJack is hard to play with.



Neutral is better off just randoming the kill imo or shooting town to end the game in solo win. Its what I would do.
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I'm with TBP on this matter. Lynch is a town-controlled kill, and when they lose it the game is ended in most scenarios. Jester kill will remove a negative influence in exchange for the negative influence receiving a chance to kill someone.
In this scenario though its weird.

Also as a reminder: mafia has no night kill so the sooner we lynch the joker the better.



Mesk is always the jester.



I think you're drawing away from the joker lynch suggestions. Accusations on page 3 are kind of a weird scenario in this game.



You are playing very differently.



Immediate scumread.


Is this your first game?
A lesson that everyone should learn immediately:
USE ALL OF THE FUCKING DAY.
DO NOT END IT EARLY.

I don't know how to "solo quote" something, but how does the scumread works? I mean, may you explain if you're calling him scum, or he's doing something to call someone scum? I don't get it, I had a mentor and he wasn't good enough to explain that to me :/

[QUOTE=SuperJack;677461]Nope, just common sense.

Much easier to play a game without someone purposely ruining the day chat. And possibly getting them to kill someone in exchange for their wincon completion.

Aka -1 Neutral +1 Town Controled Kill = $$$ For Town $$$

Also, use the vote tag.

(vote)SuperJack(/vote)

Just use square brackets.[/QUOTE]

The main problem with this scenario is that jester can target whoever he wants, betraying because he already has his win and he can, you know, make chaos

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Nope, just common sense.

Much easier to play a game without someone purposely ruining the day chat. And possibly getting them to kill someone in exchange for their wincon completion.

Aka -1 Neutral +1 Town Controled Kill = $$$ For Town $$$

Also, use the vote tag.

(vote)SuperJack(/vote)

Just use square brackets.

The main problem with this scenario is that jester can target whoever he wants, betraying because he already has his win and he can, you know, make chaos

[QUOTE=ccantman;677442]So I think the town and the mafia need to kill the joker as the highest priority. And then after that is solved go after each other. So a semi truce needs to be made in the meantime.

So that being said, I think we need to ignore the two targets the joker picked and try and find him. The only problem is if the joker chose himself night one, which of course is a possibibllity.

So given that, I have a suggestion.
We all go around and say IF YOU WERE JOKER, NIGHT ONE, WOULD YOU HAVE CHOOSEN YOURSELF AS THE SECOND PLAYER (With 6 invest roles, targeting oneself seems suicidal).
If we go around and the Majority says they would targetthem selves, we pick one of the two the joker has choosen (If one of the invest roles want to reveal and given info to help dwindle it down, thats on them to declare as once the joker is dead we would be against each other), but if the majority says the would not pick themselves, then we pick one the remaining 12 and leave the 2 to the fate of the joker.

I think this seems fair. The joker can only vote for one of the 13 votes and cannot influence our decisions as a whole.
And then while I do suspect the two who are choosen to die to the joker and we gain a MM for N2, IF THEY DON'T DIE, that also give us some information (and also lets the town keep at least 1 non-joker alive, and best case 2 if the joker wants to mess with us)

Obviously after this, N2 can go either way after that, but I think N1 is the cleanist for this decision to work.


So on that note, I would say, I WOULD NOT TARGET MYSELF NIGHT ONE AS THE JOKER IF I WAS.[/QUOTE]

Hello everyone!
I'm school at this moment, I'll arrive home in 4 hours, so I'll be more active at that time.

If I'm not mistaken, you want us to answer that: IF we are the joker, would we target ourselves to be one of the bounty kill, night one, as a second target?

If that's the question, then, no, I wouldn't target myself as a second bounty kill. Just because, it will be easier for deceive inv roles at night 1. Targeting myself as FIRST would be REALLY stupid, and If joker can kill 2 people that are opposing him, he can easily kill them/bomb one house. Now, If I target myself second, It would be a risk to plant a bomb, planting a bomb in the other guy's house would be the safe bet, but Joker might reveal himself, who knows, not killing the bounty kills would be a waste-night, so, the safe bet is to target 2 non-jokers in my opinion. After that, as a joker, not targeting myself, targeting myself first or targeting myself second, would make no difference.

It's hard to me to get all the tech-things of this save, but I'm still figuring out some of the questions I have with the Setup post.

Any questions of my post, please, ask them :)

Originally Posted by ccantman

So I think the town and the mafia need to kill the joker as the highest priority. And then after that is solved go after each other. So a semi truce needs to be made in the meantime.

So that being said, I think we need to ignore the two targets the joker picked and try and find him. The only problem is if the joker chose himself night one, which of course is a possibibllity.

So given that, I have a suggestion.
We all go around and say IF YOU WERE JOKER, NIGHT ONE, WOULD YOU HAVE CHOOSEN YOURSELF AS THE SECOND PLAYER (With 6 invest roles, targeting oneself seems suicidal).
If we go around and the Majority says they would targetthem selves, we pick one of the two the joker has choosen (If one of the invest roles want to reveal and given info to help dwindle it down, thats on them to declare as once the joker is dead we would be against each other), but if the majority says the would not pick themselves, then we pick one the remaining 12 and leave the 2 to the fate of the joker.

I think this seems fair. The joker can only vote for one of the 13 votes and cannot influence our decisions as a whole.
And then while I do suspect the two who are choosen to die to the joker and we gain a MM for N2, IF THEY DON'T DIE, that also give us some information (and also lets the town keep at least 1 non-joker alive, and best case 2 if the joker wants to mess with us)

Obviously after this, N2 can go either way after that, but I think N1 is the cleanist for this decision to work.


So on that note, I would say, I WOULD NOT TARGET MYSELF NIGHT ONE AS THE JOKER IF I WAS.

Hello everyone!
I'm school at this moment, I'll arrive home in 4 hours, so I'll be more active at that time.

If I'm not mistaken, you want us to answer that: IF we are the joker, would we target ourselves to be one of the bounty kill, night one, as a second target?

If that's the question, then, no, I wouldn't target myself as a second bounty kill. Just because, it will be easier for deceive inv roles at night 1. Targeting myself as FIRST would be REALLY stupid, and If joker can kill 2 people that are opposing him, he can easily kill them/bomb one house. Now, If I target myself second, It would be a risk to plant a bomb, planting a bomb in the other guy's house would be the safe bet, but Joker might reveal himself, who knows, not killing the bounty kills would be a waste-night, so, the safe bet is to target 2 non-jokers in my opinion. After that, as a joker, not targeting myself, targeting myself first or targeting myself second, would make no difference.

It's hard to me to get all the tech-things of this save, but I'm still figuring out some of the questions I have with the Setup post.

Any questions of my post, please, ask them

[QUOTE=Cryptonic;676885]At night, the Joker chooses two people.

These people are announced at the beginning of the day. If one of these players are not lynched, his ability kicks in (kill one/both or spare). If one of them is lynched, he just chooses another pair at night. They may also choose to be a Mass Murderer if their target isn't lynched.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

At night, the Joker chooses two people.

These people are announced at the beginning of the day. If one of these players are not lynched, his ability kicks in (kill one/both or spare). If one of them is lynched, he just chooses another pair at night. They may also choose to be a Mass Murderer if their target isn't lynched.

Thank you very much

I think I need an exAmple case scenario for the joker's ability, cuz I'm lost

I think I need an exAmple case scenario for the joker's ability, cuz I'm lost

long post is long, but it's like, recap plus questions plus congrats, I would love if you all read it, (right, [MENTION=11750]Gyrlander[/MENTION]?) :3

PS: I think it's going to be a "Alijach's thing" to make really long posts with contradictions and lies, right [MENTION=7820]Fury[/MENTION]? LOL.

PS2: Totally not triggered, promise.

long post is long, but it's like, recap plus questions plus congrats, I would love if you all read it, (right, @Gyrlander ?) :3

PS: I think it's going to be a "Alijach's thing" to make really long posts with contradictions and lies, right @Fury ? LOL.

PS2: Totally not triggered, promise.

[QUOTE=thedougler;676784]
Didn't help Alijach's long absences made him the "obvious" target late game.[/QUOTE]

I'm really sorry about that, the surgery was an urgency, I wasn't expecting it either, it was some shock value added to my thought procces, so I couldn't be at my 100%, I'm really sorry.

[QUOTE=Fury;676786]And yes, I'm surprised they didn't call for a no lynch. It was the correct play for town, but I tried to draw as much attention away from it as possible. Alijach said "If we mislynch, it's gg," so I didn't respond to that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fury;676786]And yes, I'm surprised they didn't call for a no lynch. It was the correct play for town, but I tried to draw as much attention away from it as possible. Alijach said "If we mislynch, it's gg," so I didn't respond to that.[/QUOTE]

How was my process in the last night? I mean, it made sense, right? If only I didn't contradict myself that much, but when they told me "contradictions =/= scum" made sense, because the only ones with the full control and sight range are the mafia.

[QUOTE=SuperJack;676791]Alijach's commitment when he could play was very good. He just had something personal going on. Which meant he missed out on a Day.[/QUOTE]
"No thanks! My dad was moved from the intensive care unit to now a normal room; Now I can play again like, 100% normal; Thanks for the suggestion, but I will be more active now, the worst ended" I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and i'm all out of bubble gum, let's do this, LEEEROOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENKINS"
I was really excited to play my first game, I really didn't want to get the replacement , just so I can make it out the lasts days with my full effort. It won't happen again (I hope); and I'll do my best to redeem myself and be a fair opponent/partner in the next game!

[QUOTE=SilverWolf;676798]This is the one thing that baffled me. In a lylo situation, as a confirmed PR with information that can help town, you should ALWAYS share it. And roleplaying like that in lylo does not help town either.

A dr. who knows when they get a successful heal, is information regardless of whether or not they get feedback. Doc should of said I tried to heal X and didn't get feedback. That says either mafia no killed intentionally or scum was afk. This could of helped town decide if they wanted to lynch or not.

That said, Fury did a great job this game and I was impressed how he got the lynch off himself at the end and convinced gyrlander and later Rachyl to vote the other guy. That was good scumplay and I hope plays again here. I am still on mafia hiatus for awhile but would love to play with him in the future.

gg guys, you all did well

Also, as a side note, I wouldn't recommend claiming anything, even citizen in this setup unless you are at least at L-2 because it does narrow down who the PR's are or outs yourself too early if you are one yourself.[/QUOTE]

This is a really good advice. I will use it later on in other games. And I think the no-info from doctor was crucial for the scum win, as we assumed everything that happened at night and couldn't really confirm it.

[QUOTE=thedougler;676805] As for Alijach there were other reasons to give him a town read, the main one probably being ccantman's casual supposition that the scum were almost certainly two active players. The other was ccantman's attempt to defend Alijach, which the town should never have taken at face value. His posts when he made them also tended to be lengthy and discoursive, which I read as somewhat pro-town.

I hoped Rachyl had a strategy and was just waiting for scum to divulge their knownledge of something they couldn't possibly know as town in that situation (eg. slipping that they know who got attacked), and then reveal to the other townies who the target was maybe within the first 24 hours. But she just kinda sat on the information and did nothing with it, which was disappointing.[/QUOTE]
So in the end, my defense wasn't that bad, right? I mean, it's something logical to do, I should care specially in the last day to convice everyone else that i'm the townie and fury's the scum.

I was hoping that Rachyl revealed her strat after I made my defense, but it seems that she followed the scum train :'c.

[QUOTE=thedougler;676806]If Alijach had remained AFK it would have been GG and Fury would have no reason to vote you. That night you could have killed Rachyl for a guaranteed win, as it would be 2v2 the next day.

It was funny watching him scramble to be the first to vote you when Alijach started trying to read through everything and decide on whom to vote. It should have raised some eyebrows that once Alijach arrived suddenly Fury is ready to hammer.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I didn't notice that, I wanted to post ASAP so I can prove I'm not afk and they can blame me, like, 200%. Good logic there on the tie.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;676812]Well, very good job Fury. I thought that you could have not night-killed to incriminate Fury, but didn't think that would be the case. I should have re-read the other days before making a decision, but Alijach just was too "in the air" for my body to ignore him.

Thank you SJ for hosting as well![/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think that costed us the game, but who knows. From failure we learn and from the mistakes we make in the road to our goals, hehe.

[QUOTE=ika;676814]contradictions =/= scum

assumptions =/= scum

ill have another post on this later, me and sw are going to get food[/QUOTE]
Agreed, for the reason that I said before, scum gathers every piece of information in the game, except who's the sheriff and the doctor. They're most likely to re-write their post 20 times if necessary just to avoid slips, which, in the end, makes them slip some information.


[QUOTE=Gyrlander;676815]Yeah, still, he played and tried. I feel bad for totally dismissing his posts and giving you the win though.

Now that I know that you'll try hard and good as scum I won't make the same mistake :P[/QUOTE]


That really hurted, not just me, but all townies in this game :/

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;676826]If you no lynch then you just kill Rachyl and town is right back where it started, except worse

If Alijach hadn't come back I would've asked him if he would be okay with me replacing in for him. Alijach was very active (and apologetic) in skype chat with me, his mentor. I think he played quite well the day he was here, but MVP definitely goes to Fury imo.

All around I'm very impressed with everyone's play here. Mentoring was a fun experience and if we do so happen to have another newbie game I will happily do it again.
Thanks to [MENTION=8508]SuperJack[/MENTION] for hosting it![/QUOTE]
I was so blind for defending me, I forgot the no-lynch was possible in this game :/
I'm sorry for being afk :'c (get it?) really. If I wanted a replacement, I would've really like it if you took my place :)
I'll say it again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for helping me to understand the game/answering my questions. I REALLY appreciate it

[QUOTE=srceenplay;676827]Gg scum.

I literally had a post written up questioning fury if he really would vote cantman. When I posted thread was locked.
I am not used to short days and should have actively hunted harder.


I have played on another site. Helz is the one who told me about FM. I tried to get into a game and while waiting started on another site.

I really think my early actions clouded people's judgement on me. Everyone was stuck on the actions and not outcomes.

I also didn't like the thought that was said that I was trying to kill town. That's not true and people shouldn't have feel into that thought. I was scum hunting and town happened to get in the way.

Again GG everyone.[/QUOTE]
Your early game was so TILTING FOR ME! For real. But in the end, helped a lot. I was really suspecting you, but while I was re-reading, it was an active citizen trying to find slips on scum's claims, which helped a lot, as I said.

Guys! I want to say It was an honour to play with you all. I really enjoyed it, and congratulations to [MENTION=29085]ccantman[/MENTION] and [MENTION=7820]Fury[/MENTION] for winning the game. You used your cards really well, your strat worked at the end, and your fast thinking helped a lot when you were supporting in something that could change in any moment (me being afk (?).

Congratulations for everyone, I really enjoyed this ride, thanks for everyone for being there for my first time, and one thousand thanks for [MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION], because he was always there ^^

Originally Posted by thedougler

Didn't help Alijach's long absences made him the "obvious" target late game.

I'm really sorry about that, the surgery was an urgency, I wasn't expecting it either, it was some shock value added to my thought procces, so I couldn't be at my 100%, I'm really sorry.

Originally Posted by Fury

And yes, I'm surprised they didn't call for a no lynch. It was the correct play for town, but I tried to draw as much attention away from it as possible. Alijach said "If we mislynch, it's gg," so I didn't respond to that.

Originally Posted by Fury

And yes, I'm surprised they didn't call for a no lynch. It was the correct play for town, but I tried to draw as much attention away from it as possible. Alijach said "If we mislynch, it's gg," so I didn't respond to that.

How was my process in the last night? I mean, it made sense, right? If only I didn't contradict myself that much, but when they told me "contradictions =/= scum" made sense, because the only ones with the full control and sight range are the mafia.

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Alijach's commitment when he could play was very good. He just had something personal going on. Which meant he missed out on a Day.

"No thanks! My dad was moved from the intensive care unit to now a normal room; Now I can play again like, 100% normal; Thanks for the suggestion, but I will be more active now, the worst ended" I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and i'm all out of bubble gum, let's do this, LEEEROOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENKINS"
I was really excited to play my first game, I really didn't want to get the replacement , just so I can make it out the lasts days with my full effort. It won't happen again (I hope); and I'll do my best to redeem myself and be a fair opponent/partner in the next game!

Originally Posted by SilverWolf

This is the one thing that baffled me. In a lylo situation, as a confirmed PR with information that can help town, you should ALWAYS share it. And roleplaying like that in lylo does not help town either.

A dr. who knows when they get a successful heal, is information regardless of whether or not they get feedback. Doc should of said I tried to heal X and didn't get feedback. That says either mafia no killed intentionally or scum was afk. This could of helped town decide if they wanted to lynch or not.

That said, Fury did a great job this game and I was impressed how he got the lynch off himself at the end and convinced gyrlander and later Rachyl to vote the other guy. That was good scumplay and I hope plays again here. I am still on mafia hiatus for awhile but would love to play with him in the future.

gg guys, you all did well

Also, as a side note, I wouldn't recommend claiming anything, even citizen in this setup unless you are at least at L-2 because it does narrow down who the PR's are or outs yourself too early if you are one yourself.

This is a really good advice. I will use it later on in other games. And I think the no-info from doctor was crucial for the scum win, as we assumed everything that happened at night and couldn't really confirm it.

Originally Posted by thedougler

As for Alijach there were other reasons to give him a town read, the main one probably being ccantman's casual supposition that the scum were almost certainly two active players. The other was ccantman's attempt to defend Alijach, which the town should never have taken at face value. His posts when he made them also tended to be lengthy and discoursive, which I read as somewhat pro-town.

I hoped Rachyl had a strategy and was just waiting for scum to divulge their knownledge of something they couldn't possibly know as town in that situation (eg. slipping that they know who got attacked), and then reveal to the other townies who the target was maybe within the first 24 hours. But she just kinda sat on the information and did nothing with it, which was disappointing.

So in the end, my defense wasn't that bad, right? I mean, it's something logical to do, I should care specially in the last day to convice everyone else that i'm the townie and fury's the scum.

I was hoping that Rachyl revealed her strat after I made my defense, but it seems that she followed the scum train :'c.

Originally Posted by thedougler

If Alijach had remained AFK it would have been GG and Fury would have no reason to vote you. That night you could have killed Rachyl for a guaranteed win, as it would be 2v2 the next day.

It was funny watching him scramble to be the first to vote you when Alijach started trying to read through everything and decide on whom to vote. It should have raised some eyebrows that once Alijach arrived suddenly Fury is ready to hammer.

Yeah, I didn't notice that, I wanted to post ASAP so I can prove I'm not afk and they can blame me, like, 200%. Good logic there on the tie.

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Well, very good job Fury. I thought that you could have not night-killed to incriminate Fury, but didn't think that would be the case. I should have re-read the other days before making a decision, but Alijach just was too "in the air" for my body to ignore him.

Thank you SJ for hosting as well!

Yeah, I think that costed us the game, but who knows. From failure we learn and from the mistakes we make in the road to our goals, hehe.

Originally Posted by ika

contradictions =/= scum

assumptions =/= scum

ill have another post on this later, me and sw are going to get food

Agreed, for the reason that I said before, scum gathers every piece of information in the game, except who's the sheriff and the doctor. They're most likely to re-write their post 20 times if necessary just to avoid slips, which, in the end, makes them slip some information.

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Yeah, still, he played and tried. I feel bad for totally dismissing his posts and giving you the win though.

Now that I know that you'll try hard and good as scum I won't make the same mistake :P

That really hurted, not just me, but all townies in this game :/

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

If you no lynch then you just kill Rachyl and town is right back where it started, except worse

If Alijach hadn't come back I would've asked him if he would be okay with me replacing in for him. Alijach was very active (and apologetic) in skype chat with me, his mentor. I think he played quite well the day he was here, but MVP definitely goes to Fury imo.

All around I'm very impressed with everyone's play here. Mentoring was a fun experience and if we do so happen to have another newbie game I will happily do it again.
Thanks to @SuperJack for hosting it!

I was so blind for defending me, I forgot the no-lynch was possible in this game :/
I'm sorry for being afk :'c (get it?) really. If I wanted a replacement, I would've really like it if you took my place
I'll say it again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for helping me to understand the game/answering my questions. I REALLY appreciate it

Originally Posted by srceenplay

Gg scum.

I literally had a post written up questioning fury if he really would vote cantman. When I posted thread was locked.
I am not used to short days and should have actively hunted harder.


I have played on another site. Helz is the one who told me about FM. I tried to get into a game and while waiting started on another site.

I really think my early actions clouded people's judgement on me. Everyone was stuck on the actions and not outcomes.

I also didn't like the thought that was said that I was trying to kill town. That's not true and people shouldn't have feel into that thought. I was scum hunting and town happened to get in the way.

Again GG everyone.

Your early game was so TILTING FOR ME! For real. But in the end, helped a lot. I was really suspecting you, but while I was re-reading, it was an active citizen trying to find slips on scum's claims, which helped a lot, as I said.

Guys! I want to say It was an honour to play with you all. I really enjoyed it, and congratulations to @ccantman and @Fury for winning the game. You used your cards really well, your strat worked at the end, and your fast thinking helped a lot when you were supporting in something that could change in any moment (me being afk (?).

Congratulations for everyone, I really enjoyed this ride, thanks for everyone for being there for my first time, and one thousand thanks for @Stealthbomber16 , because he was always there ^^

Hey guys! gg for everyone!

Special thanks to my mentor, [MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION] and [MENTION=8508]SuperJack[/MENTION] for showing me tha game, it was a really good experience!

I'll do the recap in just a moment, :)

Hey guys! gg for everyone!

Special thanks to my mentor, @Stealthbomber16 and @SuperJack for showing me tha game, it was a really good experience!

I'll do the recap in just a moment,

/sign

[MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION], here we go m8. A promise is a promise, and this is going to be awesome ;)

/sign

@Stealthbomber16 , here we go m8. A promise is a promise, and this is going to be awesome ;)

[QUOTE=Fury;676715]How the hell would killing someone randomly be you expecting to find the sheriff? Why the hell wouldn't you just kill the confirmed doc? It's like taking a shot into the crowd when you could just for sure kill a confirmed town? Like it makes 0 fucking sense to me why Rachyl didn't die n1, and it's only something that I could see a noob doing day 1 with an afk partner.[/QUOTE]

Because, I can't remember if it was ccantman, he said that everyone claiming citizen revealed the sheriff by taking out of the list the roles of people who are claiming citizen, as mafia knows who is the town, but not the special role, unless, of course, the doctor revealed before.

Originally Posted by Fury

How the hell would killing someone randomly be you expecting to find the sheriff? Why the hell wouldn't you just kill the confirmed doc? It's like taking a shot into the crowd when you could just for sure kill a confirmed town? Like it makes 0 fucking sense to me why Rachyl didn't die n1, and it's only something that I could see a noob doing day 1 with an afk partner.

Because, I can't remember if it was ccantman, he said that everyone claiming citizen revealed the sheriff by taking out of the list the roles of people who are claiming citizen, as mafia knows who is the town, but not the special role, unless, of course, the doctor revealed before.

[QUOTE=Fury;676705]You're too afraid to vote me because if you do it makes you look like scum. Everyone knows this.[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid of being wrong, and that Gyr is the scum, making the hammer vote on you, and throwing the game.

IF, and it's a big IF, mafia didn't attack, that would mean that Gyr is expecting for make a scum call on me, for being the afk, and then claiming the day before that I was scummy enough.

Originally Posted by Fury

You're too afraid to vote me because if you do it makes you look like scum. Everyone knows this.

I'm afraid of being wrong, and that Gyr is the scum, making the hammer vote on you, and throwing the game.

IF, and it's a big IF, mafia didn't attack, that would mean that Gyr is expecting for make a scum call on me, for being the afk, and then claiming the day before that I was scummy enough.

[QUOTE=Fury;676701]What do you even mean what you suspect happened? If I was scum, then why the [B]fuck[/B] would I keep Rachyl alive who honestly wanted me dead? I legitimately expected Rachyl to die because I have no fucking clue why she didn't die night 1. Only an idiot would not kill doctor day 1, and I think you went afk and ccantman was the idiot who had to make all the decisions. Someone who didn't kill doctor night 1 that she revealed is an idiot and I think ccantman was that idiot. If he was legitimately that dumb, then how do you expect him to be capable of higher level play?[/QUOTE]

Because you were expecting to find the sheriff first, as it happened, and keep the roleblock on Doctor, as it happened to dougler's death, making her useless in this game, and make her look really suspicious. BTW, it seems that you're ranting in third person for having a bad partner that failed you in following your strat, and now you blame him for that throw




[QUOTE=Fury;676702]Your posts are from the perspective that ccantman was good enough to pull all these elaborate and complex strategies, but he proved himself a noob when he night 1 didn't kill Rachyl. By the way, you were afk so he didn't have a partner to guide him.[/QUOTE]

I'm a first timer, and I thought about that strat with only the 20 something post I made, plus watching your reactions on that.

Originally Posted by Fury

What do you even mean what you suspect happened? If I was scum, then why the fuck would I keep Rachyl alive who honestly wanted me dead? I legitimately expected Rachyl to die because I have no fucking clue why she didn't die night 1. Only an idiot would not kill doctor day 1, and I think you went afk and ccantman was the idiot who had to make all the decisions. Someone who didn't kill doctor night 1 that she revealed is an idiot and I think ccantman was that idiot. If he was legitimately that dumb, then how do you expect him to be capable of higher level play?

Because you were expecting to find the sheriff first, as it happened, and keep the roleblock on Doctor, as it happened to dougler's death, making her useless in this game, and make her look really suspicious. BTW, it seems that you're ranting in third person for having a bad partner that failed you in following your strat, and now you blame him for that throw

Originally Posted by Fury

Your posts are from the perspective that ccantman was good enough to pull all these elaborate and complex strategies, but he proved himself a noob when he night 1 didn't kill Rachyl. By the way, you were afk so he didn't have a partner to guide him.

I'm a first timer, and I thought about that strat with only the 20 something post I made, plus watching your reactions on that.

[QUOTE=Fury;676699]If I put the hammer down immediately on ccantman, then we'd never have learned that you were evil from that day. I think you're evil now just because you wanted to instant lynch and not discuss to find the last mafia. No wonder you wanted an instant lynch. The less information, the better in your opinion. The more discussion, the more likely you'll be found.[/QUOTE]

Fallacy.

I'm waiting for my other partner, the last townie, to be here to make his comments, read my defense, and see Rachyl's veredict. I'm not instant-lynching, you're the one that put a vote against really soon. And we already found the last mafia; dougler found him, Rachyl confirmed it, etc.

Originally Posted by Fury

If I put the hammer down immediately on ccantman, then we'd never have learned that you were evil from that day. I think you're evil now just because you wanted to instant lynch and not discuss to find the last mafia. No wonder you wanted an instant lynch. The less information, the better in your opinion. The more discussion, the more likely you'll be found.

Fallacy.

I'm waiting for my other partner, the last townie, to be here to make his comments, read my defense, and see Rachyl's veredict. I'm not instant-lynching, you're the one that put a vote against really soon. And we already found the last mafia; dougler found him, Rachyl confirmed it, etc.

[QUOTE=Fury;676694]I am not stoned, I'm drunk ;D but you should at least let me defend myself. Rachyl, tell me what part of Alijach's post convinced you to guilty me. If you ask me to, I'll respond in-depth to his entire post. I just found that stupid because it'd just be me quoting something and showing it's a lie.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the fact that, what I was suspecting that happened last night, is legit?

Originally Posted by Fury

I am not stoned, I'm drunk ;D but you should at least let me defend myself. Rachyl, tell me what part of Alijach's post convinced you to guilty me. If you ask me to, I'll respond in-depth to his entire post. I just found that stupid because it'd just be me quoting something and showing it's a lie.

Maybe the fact that, what I was suspecting that happened last night, is legit?

[QUOTE=Rachyl;676690]SILENCE! we will have order in the court! The verdict is rendered, the VERDICT IS GUILTY. GUILTY OF MURDERING TOWNIES. YOU MUST BE STONED![/QUOTE]

I want to see Gyr's thoughts too, that's why I'm waiting.... imagine it as looking for a heart-shaped stone to throw...

Originally Posted by Rachyl

SILENCE! we will have order in the court! The verdict is rendered, the VERDICT IS GUILTY. GUILTY OF MURDERING TOWNIES. YOU MUST BE STONED!

I want to see Gyr's thoughts too, that's why I'm waiting.... imagine it as looking for a heart-shaped stone to throw...

[QUOTE=Rachyl;676682]I, Rachyl, Grand Doctor of town, find Fury guilty of conspiring with the mafia and murdering townies. Fury i sentence you to death by stoning for breaking our commandments[/QUOTE]

Maybe if you give us your last night information just to confirm our thoughts might help to put the hammer vote from Gyr?
Also, I want to see if my reasoning was good enough to predict what happened last night

Originally Posted by Rachyl

I, Rachyl, Grand Doctor of town, find Fury guilty of conspiring with the mafia and murdering townies. Fury i sentence you to death by stoning for breaking our commandments

Maybe if you give us your last night information just to confirm our thoughts might help to put the hammer vote from Gyr?
Also, I want to see if my reasoning was good enough to predict what happened last night