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    Thread:FM The Championat

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    Spoiler : cvote :
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  2. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:FM The Championat

    Thread Author:Kenny

    Post Author:Chipotle

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    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    Thread:FM The Championat

    Thread Author:Kenny

    Post Author:Chipotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyes View Post
    I tried.
    RIP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominos View Post
    Papa claimed a different name. Can't remember what without my notes. Doesn't matter
    I can confirm this. It was discussed earlier in the day. Don’t remember it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
    Stop all this code wtf am i missing. no point talking in code apparently everyone in this game sees it but me. Just lat it out
    Take a break. Let your head rest. You’re overthinking things. Prolonged exposure to this kind of discussion is unhealthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbucks View Post
    yo ima have to ask you fucking stop

    -vote Chipotle
    Oh, I’m sorry sweetie. Did I offend your mason friend?
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    -vote Jack in the Box


    I believe we have all forgotten about this person. They have been flying under the radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
    Are you Claiming to be a Nuet Escort? of some sort?
    Take a moment dear. You’re overthinking this. There are far fewer layers than you imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
    Are you Claiming to be a Nuet Escort? of some sort?
    Have you been reading the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    That's fucking mean
    I'm not the one who's admitted to adultery, darling.
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    OOC @Cryptonic

    I'm having a blast. Love the RP for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-fil-A View Post
    Yeah... information regarding your family and why you're important?
    IC: My family is one of the most prominent families in this region, dear. Have you not heard of me before? Surely you're familiar with my work.

    OOC: I don't think it's important at all.
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    Unfortunately I won't be around for when Dairy Queen decides to stop sniffing his own ass like the dog he is. I believe I understand the charges and deny them outright. I have not been with that man. It is beneath me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-fil-A View Post
    What the fuck is the Thorne family.
    My family?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
    Remember cult= werewolf
    Family curse = werewolf
    Based on what information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    -vote chipotle
    let's dance witch.
    You seem to be jumping to conclusions dear. While this may indeed be a masquerade, I'm just along for the ride. Your sins and misconceptions are their own. I'll have no part in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    @Chipotle your name is Bobbi? Are you male or female?
    I am Bobbi Thorne, Heiress to the Thorne Family. It's only natural I would be invited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    I will answer this one question publicly, since it's about the setup mechanics and not about rolecard/interactions/feedback/etc.
    Every role is unique (ie, there will not be two of the same person). Actions, Attributes, and any combination of the two may be repeated over multiple roles.
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burger King View Post
    wrong. But I'm glad you actually participated in my exercise.



    Another participant!

    But yes, that is what I was getting at- Names are unique, actions are not.

    I find it strange no one else thought to ask about that until I brought it up.
    How about instead of being a condescending asshat you actually ask the person who could answer the question? I also believe you misread my post because you said I was wrong then confirmed someone else who said the same thing. Names are unique. The role itself is not. Me and popeyes can both be citizen but we both can't be Bobbi Thorne. We are not both claiming to be Bobbi Thorne. I don't understand where the disconnect is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    I'm just gunna say, feels like it would be on hell of a copout to say "all roles are unique" when the roles are "Citizen 1, Citizen 2, Citizen 3" etc. with identical attributes, actions, and win conditions.
    That's not a cop out. That's saying there aren't 2 people named Bobbi Thorne. That makes perfect sense.

    And yes, I've received a response. That is how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipotle View Post
    I’ve also asked crypt via pm whether or not roles are unique means just names or attributes/actions as well and im fairly certain it will be the former.
    By all means, pm and ask him the same question.
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    I’ve also asked crypt via pm whether or not roles are unique means just names or attributes/actions as well and im fairly certain it will be the former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyes View Post
    I am also reading Chipotle scum, which I have partially based on the fact that they have responded to:

    with the response of:

    and once called out on this;
    responded with;


    Which completely contradicts what Chipotle's second point was all about.
    No. It literally doesn’t. His read on me was entirely based on the assumption I had t read the thread. Which was false. There was still literally no way for him to know that. The rest of my argument still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subway View Post
    I agree. @Chipotle , would you mind to remind us what your roleplay is, what you are doing on here specifically, and what your reads are and why, both roleplay- and mafiareading- wise? You're on my suspects list atm.
    Here’s a fairly rudimentary reads list. This isn’t everyone but it’s who i feel comfortable with.

    Subway - Town
    Antonina is the host. You appear Town in my rolecard. You’re town.

    KFC - Town
    He makes a lot of good points and discussion starters. I don’t see him being scum right now.

    Taco Bell - Null lean town
    I don’t see how scum benefits from claiming mason early d2. But I’m open to being swayed. If there appears to be no cult then yeah we should revisit this because he said there was a cult(?)

    DQ - Null lean town
    Actively trying to solve the game. Working with people. I feel like I’m being buddied so I’m being cautious.

    Starbucks - Null
    Gotta do an iso on this guy. I’ve still got no clue.

    McDonalds - Null lean scum
    I’ve kind of touched this before. I have only read up to this point so far so I haven’t seen if he addressed it yet or not but I don’t see how faux jailing chick was a town play.

    Burger King - Scum
    Provided I remember I will make an ISO on this slot to show you why. But he’s doing some serious sxumpainting akin to Bob Ross.

    In my morning haze I almost forgot

    Jack in the Box - Null leaning scum
    This is a good example of why I disagree with some of what KFC is saying because this guy is literally slipping under the radar by posting agreement statements. I’d like some attention brought here.
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    Obligatory good night post so that I don't get scumpainted for disappearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burger King View Post
    It wasn't a bible on how the game should be played. If anything, it was a Two Commandments on how the game should NOT be played. I'll agree that it would have been nice if he left us some info about his RP, but the fact that it's missing doesn't negate the rest of what he said.



    I never said the behavior was scummy just because I said so. The behavior is just objectively scummy, for the reasons already pointed out in PH's LW. If you want to argue that it isn't scummy behavior, then by all means, provide some counterarguments to what PH said with some logic/evidence to back it up. And telling me to 'git gud' is a trash argument and is even more hilarious for reasons I'll have to wait until the post-game to discuss.



    1. If RP provides town with information that directly relates to the abilities/alignments of players, then does it not also provide scum with that information? So, in much the same way that D1 mass role claims are usually disastrous for town, it stands to reason that a mass RP claim could have similar ramifications in a setup like this one in which RP is so closely tied to game mechanics. I don't think PH was ignorant of the RP's importance to the game, he was very aware of it, and very much against mass claiming and potentially giving the scum all the info they need on d1.

    2. At no point did he say you hadn't read the setup, he said you likely hadn't read the entire thread. And given that you didn't read his LW closely enough to know this, you're kind of proving his point for him.
    1. If you believe giving information aids scum just as much as it aids town then I don't think we have anything else to say here.

    2. Typo. Meant thread. Said setup. Whoopsie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    1. You don’t necessarily need to add a counter argument to PH’s LW, but it is odd that you recognized the FoS on you and felt you needed to respond by saying “lol he’s stupid, no one agrees with what he’s saying about me, right? Good, don’t need to worry about it.”

    2. You are correct that aiding the Popeyes train would only just put him in danger of being turbolynched; I didn’t ask you to do this. In fact, if you had read the thread, I specifically advised against putting more votes on Popeyes for just such a reason.

    3. I never asked you to not vote, either. I asked you to read the thread and contribute to discussion. You completely ignored the FoS on Popeyes. You ignored the fact that Starbucks claimed to target me last night, and I was pressuring him to reveal what he did. You ignored the discussion between Subway/DQ/MD about how MD verbatim claimed his win condition. From my perspective, you jumped into the thread, didn’t bother to read everything that happened, saw pressure building against Popeyes, and decided to throw some pressure toward someone that was receiving criticism by voting them and parroting the already-said criticism without contributing any analysis of your own.

    I’m not here to tell you how to play, I’m just here to say how I find your play thus far very suspect.
    1. Well I did it anyway lol

    2. This is fair. No refutation. You are correct.

    3. This is the bit that I take issue with. How is me commenting on any of these things with things that have been stated in the thread (because I have nothing interesting to add to any of the topics you stated here) pro-town? In particular the part where MD claims his win-condition is absolutely not helpful to discuss at all. I see where your perspective is but take a moment and see it from mine. My commentary is unhelpful and repetitive. My opinion is not prominent. I am sitting in the middle of every single read list. I lack strong reads on several of the top posters. Good way to do that? Throw out a vote on someone I don't like, see if it sticks. This is reaction hunting. If a wagon had built up on McD you bet your ass I would've backed off. You defending him draws a line connecting you two in my mind. If one flips scum, the other one may be as well.

    I've been reading. But I haven't been able to participate. I process best when I participate. What better way to participate than to throw out a left field opinion? Oh look, I did that day 1 as well! That's the whole topic of Pizza Hut's will! Funny how this all connects, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burger King View Post
    He was wrong about PJ being scum, but his reasoning for scum reading PJ was 100% correct. The things he pointed out about PJ were incredibly scummy behaviors. I don't blame PH for thinking PJ was scum, I blame PJ for playing so scummy as town.
    What I fail to follow is his reasoning for me being scum.


    No one has any issues with this? Does this guy think that revealing TPRs is a good thing? Is he just saying something that he thinks seems pro-town, so doesn’t put any thought into what he is actually saying? Is he scum who knows more then the town about the importance of RP? He made this post immediately after his first one, which meant that he had only just begun showing activity. Therefore, there is a high chance he hadn’t really read through the entire thread, and making a statement like this before having a thorough read points to this statement being based off of information outside of the thread, meaning he knows more then the average town member.
    Lets go through this step by step, to appease both your thirsty ass and KFC.

    1. Revealing RP is not the same as revealing role. Revealing RP leads to confirming town, as shown with Antonina. It does not lead to confirming role, as shown with Papa Johns. This is also the exact case with S-FM Chicago, our only viable source of reference for this game, after which he literally polled the participants of for advice on hosting this setup. If you have not read Chicago, go read Chicago. The games are eerily similar. After you're done, go read M-FM Castle Varen. RP is something that Cryptonic is known for indulging in. It is the very blood of this setup, and him stating that is not by the end of D1 is just plain ignorant.

    2. He states that I made this post right after my first. Which shows I had only just begun showing activity. These are both correct. he then proceeds to reach farther than marth's grab range in super smash bros melee by saying that I likely hadn't read the setup yet. There is literally no way for him to know that. His dislike of me sharing RP is based entirely on a single possibility of me being a bad player. He may be right but I'm not the one making scumreads based on a single moment of player activity. The last guy who did that got modkilled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipotle View Post
    Pizza Hut was definitely not spot on because Papa John flipped town. Although I will admit I was entertaining the opportunity of him being a potential wolf.
    Him referring to Papa John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burger King View Post
    Quite the contrary, I think Pizza Hut was spot on with everything he said. I have an idea which part Chipotle objects to, but I'd be interested to hear what specific parts of PH's LW you disagree with, Dairy Queen.
    Pizza Hut was definitely not spot on because Papa John flipped town. Although I will admit I was entertaining the opportunity of him being a potential wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    Pizza Hut may have been stuck miles up his own ass, but “lol that’s dumb” is not a proper counter argument. You haven’t bothered to add much to the discussion today either, and it’s worrisome that your first contribution is a poorly thought through distraction vote without having read and weighed in on today’s discussion.
    I have not contributed to the day because I have not been able to contribute to the day because I have not been able to view the thread. Do I need to counteract Pizza Hut's last will? There was no pressure on me prior to my post. It seems that the common consensus is that he was incorrect.

    My vote was with no intention of distracting or derailing. I wish to not add my vote to popeyes because there is no reason for me to add it there. The pressure applied is plenty. Why would I risk a turbolynch by placing him on L-3? What would I add by placing him there? What would I add by not voting? Conversely, what have I added by voting McDonalds? This conversation. I'm getting reads on you and on DQ just by both of you being here and reacting and/or choosing not to react. I'm sure you're both formulating on me more than if I hadn't voted him. Votes are important. Would you have preferred me not voting him, instead denouncing him and, in your own words, "discrediting" him? What is the proper play?

    To summarize
    1. Why do you feel I need to add a counterargument to Pizza Hut's will?
    2. What would I add by aiding the Popeyes train?
    3. What would I be adding by not voting right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    -vote Chipotle


    Care to provide any more evidence of why you think Mickey D is scum other than you disagree with his night action, and discrediting your accuser?
    Do you disagree with me on Pizza Hut?

    McDonalds has not added much to the discussion other than his night action, which I believe was scummily placed. Today I don't actually see much else I could read him for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDonalds View Post
    Why should we even trust the hostess? for all we know the hostess could have a secret win-condition to see all the guests killed.
    This kind of thinking is extremely anti-town and I want to bring even more attention to it. I don't like how you supposedly architected a claimed TPR and acted as a jailor figure. I especially don't like how you immediately revealed you weren't jailor.

    -vote McDonalds


    Leaving this here for now.

    Side note: What the hell was that will, Pizza Hut? That was some of the worst shit I've read in a while. "Oh he's asking people to reveal rolecards well only scum would want rolecard info" get the fuck out. In no world would scum try to solve the game like that.
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    Yeah I can confirm Antonina is 99% likely to be town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subway View Post
    Well, I was going to say what my role was anyway for the sake of information, but now it looks like I'm being pushed for very stupid reasons? Did you think about the fact that revealing my role might give info to scum in order to hide?

    I am Antonina (and not Antonia) Wagstaff. And Julien is my... husband, according to my rolecard. I organize this Ball every year, usually, but Julien hired other people, women, to organize it this year, I don't know why, and I suspect him of cheating on me

    This is why I have hired a private detective company, to know what's up with my husband. And I have the very strong belief that the private detective I have hired is Chik-fil-A, he's here for work, and he's definetly investigating, including in roleplay. I am town and have hired him, so I assume that he's town, too, plus he has been towny if we just read him out of roleplay, solvy and scum hunting.

    I think you get why I didn't reveal my name, eh? Julien is not a random drunkard; he's the current organizer.

    There's also a part of my card saying that I usually organize the Ball along with a hired planner, and I don't know that guy's identity. I ended up wondering if it wasn't Starbucks, saying he's important.



    Now, Chipotle is jumping on me. I have been investigating, it is OBVIOUS, and he didn't think a single bit that my name could have interfered with my inquiries? Tsk tsk tsk.
    -vote Chipotle
    Putting the vote out there.
    Oh shit you’re right I misspelled it.

    -unvote


    I’m alright with all of the contents of this post. Seems very fitting.

    and that vote was deserved
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-fil-A View Post
    I thought we agreed all of us with-held some information ;)
    I haven’t withheld anything I wouldnt be punished for sharing.
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    I think that with it being a hidden setup like this having information is key. As such it is helpful to get a d1 lynch to start collecting information. Upon review I am comfortable enough a subway lynch to leave my vote here for the next hour or so.

    -vote Subway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subway View Post
    .... I'm back. Getting to reading from that post. Also, what do you know about Antonia, prestigious lady?
    I missed this post but I answered it later so no harm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subway View Post
    ...This is true, yet my rolecard doesn't put you as a very towny person, although it doesn't say you're confirmed scum either. Are you an important person? What is your job? Do you know what you were doing before coming to the Ball?
    This is the post that I don’t like. Being investigative of other’s rolecards while not being open about your own is, at best, hypocritical and at worst scummy. It’s absolutely not helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    Why are they shitty? I assume we are in some sort of mansion, I figured they would have went all out with the decor.
    They look like a wreck.

    I’ll have everyone here know I’ve basically spilled the beans on every detail in my rolecard in like, my first two or three posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    Now we're getting somewhere, do you think she could possibly have a sister?
    I don’t even have a last name for Antonia. Just Antonia.

    Also she chose some shitty decorations lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    Here is our first claim from someone other than Taco Bell that they have RP names of other people in their rolecard. The plot thickens. Care to tell us more about who Antonina is, Ms. Thorne?
    I believe that Antonia is our hostess for tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbys View Post
    Well then @Chipotle is free to confirm/deny if Antonia is relevant. Maybe she came with her.
    Confirm that there is an Antonina on my rolecard and that I encourage them to claim their name more so than anyone else here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipotle View Post
    Let me be frank.


    First impressions may be tough
    But when I saw you I knew it
    If your play weren’t enough
    This last post just blew it

    And so my dear,
    So loud and proud
    You’ll never be productive
    So I’ll help you out

    You’ve come down with a case of
    Mrs. Bobbi Thorne.

    You’re my first ISO. I need a read on you and I don’t have one yet. Be back in a bit.
    Ms.* I think I’m supposed to be unmarried?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairy Queen View Post
    Oh hi are you some kind of a basic bitch?
    Let me be frank.


    First impressions may be tough
    But when I saw you I knew it
    If your play weren’t enough
    This last post just blew it

    And so my dear,
    So loud and proud
    You’ll never be productive
    So I’ll help you out

    You’ve come down with a case of
    Mrs. Bobbi Thorne.

    You’re my first ISO. I need a read on you and I don’t have one yet. Be back in a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyes View Post
    I am not convinced that RP names are going to be important to figuring out the setup. I could be wrong. But I am not currently convinced

    In Chicago, we were able to deduce and confirm roles and wincons by sharing RP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
    I can say I have 0 information about any lovers
    What do you have information on? Your play so far has not been helpful. You’re just on the back foot, taking pot shots.
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    I’ll also be the first to hard claim citizen. Miss Bobbi Thorne, heiress of the Thorne family, and atendee of this... whatever this place is. What a horrid party.
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    RP aside, I see no reason why we should not be sharing our names at the moment. Refusal to do so is absolutely anti town. More information never hurts town.
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