January 18th, 2014, 04:59 AM
i told meshuvel with a code, so he actually knew. i also told him at night to tell town if it fails. and i even asked him to reveal it in day chat. but still he didn't which pissed me pretty much off and was really not good, you're right. i couldn't say it because i wasn't revealed. but meshuvel almost made me reveal with that shit. (then you retracted your claim so i didn't have to reveal and every townie with half a brain knew you were scum (still it was better for you than sticking with your claim because i would have revealed and caught your lie))
oh yeah and did i mention that meshuvel really sucked too when he didn't want to hear your fake claim? i dunno what was going through his head, what he thought what town you could possibly be...
i told meshuvel with a code, so he actually knew. i also told him at night to tell town if it fails. and i even asked him to reveal it in day chat. but still he didn't which pissed me pretty much off and was really not good, you're right. i couldn't say it because i wasn't revealed. but meshuvel almost made me reveal with that shit. (then you retracted your claim so i didn't have to reveal and every townie with half a brain knew you were scum (still it was better for you than sticking with your claim because i would have revealed and caught your lie))
oh yeah and did i mention that meshuvel really sucked too when he didn't want to hear your fake claim? i dunno what was going through his head, what he thought what town you could possibly be...
January 8th, 2014, 04:35 AM
Yeah fragos if you had killed cole you would have lost because they would have lynched you and go for a draw. So that was the best action for you though lix doesnt seem to see it
Yeah fragos if you had killed cole you would have lost because they would have lynched you and go for a draw. So that was the best action for you though lix doesnt seem to see it
January 8th, 2014, 01:21 AM
1) i'm not surprised we completed our objective, i saw that possibility too but i thought it would be too easy so i scrapped it. but nice we completed our objective
2) i don't really think meshuvel is the best choice for town mvp. yes he attracted roleblocks, but those were all [I]town[/I] roleblocks, so that's actually a bad thing. second, maybe he was good at the start, but for sure i know when he became priest his day activity, player analysis, leading ability, night chat activity was definitely way too low and also his plans about what to do were quite suboptimal
3) you already revealed the electro maniac name in your spreadsheet though you didnt want too, it was on every night action page
4) the odds, if docs decision were random are actually 1/(35*35) (since they can still target each other) which is less than 0,1%
however since they are not really random, the odds are significantly higher. those targets just made themself look like the best target for doc i think^^
1) i'm not surprised we completed our objective, i saw that possibility too but i thought it would be too easy so i scrapped it. but nice we completed our objective
2) i don't really think meshuvel is the best choice for town mvp. yes he attracted roleblocks, but those were all town roleblocks, so that's actually a bad thing. second, maybe he was good at the start, but for sure i know when he became priest his day activity, player analysis, leading ability, night chat activity was definitely way too low and also his plans about what to do were quite suboptimal
3) you already revealed the electro maniac name in your spreadsheet though you didnt want too, it was on every night action page
4) the odds, if docs decision were random are actually 1/(35*35) (since they can still target each other) which is less than 0,1%
however since they are not really random, the odds are significantly higher. those targets just made themself look like the best target for doc i think^^
January 2nd, 2014, 12:15 PM
yea as i said, a or b
scum cant lynch arso without town
yea as i said, a or b
scum cant lynch arso without town
January 2nd, 2014, 08:36 AM
also we should wait for the lw. it may contain info
also we should wait for the lw. it may contain info
January 2nd, 2014, 08:33 AM
sure if they don't we will just lynch cole
sure if they don't we will just lynch cole
January 2nd, 2014, 08:31 AM
i just want that orange and green have 0% chance to win
i just want that orange and green have 0% chance to win
January 2nd, 2014, 08:29 AM
also elspeth confirmed that kidnapper killed doc
also elspeth confirmed that kidnapper killed doc
January 2nd, 2014, 08:29 AM
he cant kill you or he would have already done so
so he will not sacrifice his night kill
he cant kill you or he would have already done so
so he will not sacrifice his night kill
January 2nd, 2014, 08:25 AM
what's your problem on lynching disguiser? you can douse cole then and ignite, then it's just you karn and nix left
what's your problem on lynching disguiser? you can douse cole then and ignite, then it's just you karn and nix left
January 2nd, 2014, 08:22 AM
we the town have 2 options:
a) force day ignite
b) lynch disguiser
we the town have 2 options:
a) force day ignite
b) lynch disguiser
January 2nd, 2014, 08:20 AM
no, he will not be hammered. town may NOT hammer him. trust me i'm confirmed town this would not be good for us
no, he will not be hammered. town may NOT hammer him. trust me i'm confirmed town this would not be good for us
January 2nd, 2014, 08:14 AM
sifa do not ignite before i give you my ok though, i may have to update my lw first
sifa do not ignite before i give you my ok though, i may have to update my lw first
January 2nd, 2014, 08:13 AM
nope but i may have info
nope but i may have info
January 2nd, 2014, 08:10 AM
[QUOTE=FM Sifa Grent;412353]Hmm, I can prove to you right now that my intentions aren't false. If I ignite right now, three of you will die, and I will be needed only [B]Karn[/B]'s vote to lynch Sandruu. Actually, it will be Karn's decision on, hmm, who will win after that. Scum will not be able to kill Karn because I, hmm, will kill one of then next night, and Karn knows better than anyone else that town can't win, hmm.[/QUOTE]
actually i like this idea, you may just day ignite right now. then we will see who wins, this scenario would be [U]really[/U] interesting
Originally Posted by
FM Sifa Grent
Hmm, I can prove to you right now that my intentions aren't false. If I ignite right now, three of you will die, and I will be needed only Karn's vote to lynch Sandruu. Actually, it will be Karn's decision on, hmm, who will win after that. Scum will not be able to kill Karn because I, hmm, will kill one of then next night, and Karn knows better than anyone else that town can't win, hmm.
actually i like this idea, you may just day ignite right now. then we will see who wins, this scenario would be really interesting
January 2nd, 2014, 08:07 AM
[QUOTE=FM Sifa Grent;412347]Hmm, how I can douse Cole if I got myself jailed again?[/QUOTE]
if we lynch the disguiser you won't be jailed because that means he cant kill
[QUOTE=FM Teferi;412351]He is more than likely telling the truth my friend.
I personally want to make an accord with Sifa that ensures that the endgame will be a night to remember with 1 vamreek, 1 town, 1 arsonist (maybe 1 cole) left alive.[/QUOTE]
and a reaper. all scums should be careful, it is very likely that one of you has the reaper as mate and doesnt even know
Originally Posted by
FM Sifa Grent
Hmm, how I can douse Cole if I got myself jailed again?
if we lynch the disguiser you won't be jailed because that means he cant kill
Originally Posted by
FM Teferi
He is more than likely telling the truth my friend.
I personally want to make an accord with Sifa that ensures that the endgame will be a night to remember with 1 vamreek, 1 town, 1 arsonist (maybe 1 cole) left alive.
and a reaper. all scums should be careful, it is very likely that one of you has the reaper as mate and doesnt even know
January 2nd, 2014, 07:54 AM
lol how dumb that vermaak jailor is, jailing known arso to get himself doused^^
guys no cole lynch won't happen today. we go for the disguiser
and tonight you douse cole
[vote]FM Teferi[/vote]
lol how dumb that vermaak jailor is, jailing known arso to get himself doused^^
guys no cole lynch won't happen today. we go for the disguiser
and tonight you douse cole
-vote FM Teferi
January 2nd, 2014, 07:45 AM
why only 3 doused? what did you do all the other nights? i'd like to have all your night actions in each night (n1: ... n2: ... etc)
for now
[unvote][/unvote]
why only 3 doused? what did you do all the other nights? i'd like to have all your night actions in each night (n1: ... n2: ... etc)
for now
-unvote
January 2nd, 2014, 07:25 AM
[vote]FM Sifa Grent[/vote]
since you dont want to cooperate
alone you cant win
-vote FM Sifa Grent
since you dont want to cooperate
alone you cant win
January 2nd, 2014, 07:20 AM
I thought about a day ignite. Scum will jail you again and tomorrow they can lynch you if not today. All scums want you dead. You can only side with town. I promise if town cant win i will let you win. So give me your night actions if you dont want to be lynched right now. Then we will figure out what to do
@elspeth
do not reveal your result! Scum mustnt know this
I thought about a day ignite. Scum will jail you again and tomorrow they can lynch you if not today. All scums want you dead. You can only side with town. I promise if town cant win i will let you win. So give me your night actions if you dont want to be lynched right now. Then we will figure out what to do
@elspeth
do not reveal your result! Scum mustnt know this
January 2nd, 2014, 06:44 AM
Fucking scum alliance i hate you fucktards thats fucking not fair ffs
Yeah well im useless now anyway but im actually the last priest. I will lead the town now
Also i found something interesting last night. The person it concerns knows what i mean. I dont think it would be good for the person if i said it. so it will be in my lw. Maybe. I dont want to see anymore town deaths tonight
Sifa who have you doused so far
No need to hide im willing to give you win i dont want scum to win because of their fucking alliance
Fucking scum alliance i hate you fucktards thats fucking not fair ffs
Yeah well im useless now anyway but im actually the last priest. I will lead the town now
Also i found something interesting last night. The person it concerns knows what i mean. I dont think it would be good for the person if i said it. so it will be in my lw. Maybe. I dont want to see anymore town deaths tonight
Sifa who have you doused so far
No need to hide im willing to give you win i dont want scum to win because of their fucking alliance
December 31st, 2013, 03:42 PM
[QUOTE=FM Meshuvel;411866]karn and sandruu, if you're town lynch ashiok before the day ends[/QUOTE]
or elspeth
Originally Posted by
FM Meshuvel
karn and sandruu, if you're town lynch ashiok before the day ends
or elspeth
December 31st, 2013, 03:05 PM
[QUOTE=FM Ashiok;411837]We can come to an agreement, plz remove your votes from my team and I and we wil work something out. Otherwise all scum would benefit by lynching a town today.[/QUOTE]
what agreement do you mean
Originally Posted by
FM Ashiok
We can come to an agreement, plz remove your votes from my team and I and we wil work something out. Otherwise all scum would benefit by lynching a town today.
what agreement do you mean
December 31st, 2013, 02:39 PM
sifa is arsonist dumb scum
sifa is arsonist dumb scum
December 31st, 2013, 01:28 PM
we'll let you win all you have to do is kill vermaak tonight
we'll only let you win if you deserved it by killing vermaak. we won't do all the work eliminating vermaak and you don't even kill one of them
why would we do this
if you want to win you have to attack vermaak to
so we lynch cole now then you attack one vermaak and tomorrow we lynch we other vermaak and then we lynch the neutral killer. then you won because it's 2vs 2
srsly you want to lynch town today? in case you haven't noticed yet, we're the weakest faction atm. you profit way more to try to pull a lynch on the other faction and to kill them at night too. town already lost
we'll let you win all you have to do is kill vermaak tonight
we'll only let you win if you deserved it by killing vermaak. we won't do all the work eliminating vermaak and you don't even kill one of them
why would we do this
if you want to win you have to attack vermaak to
so we lynch cole now then you attack one vermaak and tomorrow we lynch we other vermaak and then we lynch the neutral killer. then you won because it's 2vs 2
srsly you want to lynch town today? in case you haven't noticed yet, we're the weakest faction atm. you profit way more to try to pull a lynch on the other faction and to kill them at night too. town already lost
December 31st, 2013, 10:42 AM
[QUOTE=FM Karn;411753]Cole-sandruu
Nix-ashiok
Green militia-tessebik
Vermaak-kiora
Vermaak-ral/sifa/teferi
Arsonist-ral/sifa/teferi
Invest-masrath
Cop-karn
Priest-meshuvel
Priest-ral/sifa/teferi
Coroner-elspeth
This list makes much more sense, Sandruu is cole/cit but there's no more cit according to masrath.[/QUOTE]
makes no sense at all, ashiok was checked by invest
Originally Posted by
FM Karn
Cole-sandruu
Nix-ashiok
Green militia-tessebik
Vermaak-kiora
Vermaak-ral/sifa/teferi
Arsonist-ral/sifa/teferi
Invest-masrath
Cop-karn
Priest-meshuvel
Priest-ral/sifa/teferi
Coroner-elspeth
This list makes much more sense, Sandruu is cole/cit but there's no more cit according to masrath.
makes no sense at all, ashiok was checked by invest
December 31st, 2013, 07:39 AM
what do you mean by labeling a cole as vermaak and by agreeing with sandruu
i see no reasons to believe sifa
what you're right about is that mas and meshu need to agree on a lynch
what do you mean by labeling a cole as vermaak and by agreeing with sandruu
i see no reasons to believe sifa
what you're right about is that mas and meshu need to agree on a lynch
December 31st, 2013, 06:19 AM
well apart from obvious ones like jailor
well apart from obvious ones like jailor
December 31st, 2013, 06:18 AM
i just assigned all roles that are left according to day start post including cleaned roles
i just assigned all roles that are left according to day start post including cleaned roles
December 31st, 2013, 06:17 AM
theory time
let's assume karn is not lying. that means that elspeth is telling the truth and sifa can only be nk
so that is our role list
Investigator mas
Coroner elspeth
Random Power Militia lookout venser
Random Power Militia ?? karn
Militia Member me
Militia Member meshu
Militia Member tamiyo
Militia Member green sandruu
cole ashiok
nix tessebik
vermaak x2 kiora, teferi
nk sifa
theory time
let's assume karn is not lying. that means that elspeth is telling the truth and sifa can only be nk
so that is our role list
Investigator mas
Coroner elspeth
Random Power Militia lookout venser
Random Power Militia ?? karn
Militia Member me
Militia Member meshu
Militia Member tamiyo
Militia Member green sandruu
cole ashiok
nix tessebik
vermaak x2 kiora, teferi
nk sifa
December 31st, 2013, 02:56 AM
no cit was ever converted so no
no cit was ever converted so no
December 31st, 2013, 02:45 AM
[QUOTE=FM Ral Zarek;411690]anyway we gotta agree on a target now
lynching orange:
+ orange is forced to attack green
+ removes potential orange double kill by kidnapper
lynching cole:
+ green is forced to attack orange
+ orange can block green kill by kidnapping nix
lynching green cit:
- scums are at equal strength, noone is forced to attack each other
[COLOR="#FF0000"]- we need 2 more lynches to take out KPN[/COLOR]
lynching arso:
+ removes risk of arso killing everyone
- removes a vote that is not tied to a group and thus would always vote with town to lynch scums
[COLOR="#FF0000"]- scums are at equal strength in terms of killable members and aren't forced to attack each other
- it takes another 2 lynches to take out 1 KPN[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
added
Originally Posted by
FM Ral Zarek
anyway we gotta agree on a target now
lynching orange:
+ orange is forced to attack green
+ removes potential orange double kill by kidnapper
lynching cole:
+ green is forced to attack orange
+ orange can block green kill by kidnapping nix
lynching green cit:
- scums are at equal strength, noone is forced to attack each other
- we need 2 more lynches to take out KPN
lynching arso:
+ removes risk of arso killing everyone
- removes a vote that is not tied to a group and thus would always vote with town to lynch scums
- scums are at equal strength in terms of killable members and aren't forced to attack each other
- it takes another 2 lynches to take out 1 KPN
added
December 31st, 2013, 02:43 AM
[QUOTE=FM Tessebik;411689]1) Easy: don't lynch Vermaak at all. Frankly, I can't imagine why you would want to today.
2) For the record, you do know at least 1 Vermaak.[/QUOTE]
na we don't know shit, for all we know karn might be vermaak aswell
why should we not lynch orange today you want us to lynch green?
Originally Posted by
FM Tessebik
1) Easy: don't lynch Vermaak at all. Frankly, I can't imagine why you would want to today.
2) For the record, you do know at least 1 Vermaak.
na we don't know shit, for all we know karn might be vermaak aswell
why should we not lynch orange today you want us to lynch green?
December 31st, 2013, 02:41 AM
anyway we gotta agree on a target now
lynching orange:
+ orange is forced to attack green
+ removes potential orange double kill by kidnapper
lynching cole:
+ green is forced to attack orange
+ orange can block green kill by kidnapping nix
lynching green cit:
- scums are at equal strength, noone is forced to attack each other
lynching arso:
+ removes risk of arso killing everyone
- removes a vote that is not tied to a group and thus would always vote with town to lynch scums
anyway we gotta agree on a target now
lynching orange:
+ orange is forced to attack green
+ removes potential orange double kill by kidnapper
lynching cole:
+ green is forced to attack orange
+ orange can block green kill by kidnapping nix
lynching green cit:
- scums are at equal strength, noone is forced to attack each other
lynching arso:
+ removes risk of arso killing everyone
- removes a vote that is not tied to a group and thus would always vote with town to lynch scums
December 31st, 2013, 02:05 AM
@ashiok:
how are we supposed to even lynch vermaak if we don't know them? i don't trust karn so much. sure we could gamble but that's too risky. and you don't seem to tell us who they are
@ashiok:
how are we supposed to even lynch vermaak if we don't know them? i don't trust karn so much. sure we could gamble but that's too risky. and you don't seem to tell us who they are
December 31st, 2013, 02:02 AM
[QUOTE=FM Sandruu;411535]I don't know what Ral is pulling, but it sounds like he is trying to derail any lynch.[/QUOTE]
sure totally why i changed to the others' lynch train
[QUOTE=FM Tessebik;411614]She already stated her results:
Tamiyo is a Militia Member
Koth is a Detainer who targeted Domri
You know, technically, Elspeth could've not only negated the existence of both janitors (with unlimited checks and 2 checks per night), but she also could've figured out who Glissa recruited on night 1 AND figured out if and who the priests recruited on their final nights. Conclusion: Coroner VERY OP[/QUOTE]
sure afk coroner op
Originally Posted by
FM Sandruu
I don't know what Ral is pulling, but it sounds like he is trying to derail any lynch.
sure totally why i changed to the others' lynch train
Originally Posted by
FM Tessebik
She already stated her results:
Tamiyo is a Militia Member
Koth is a Detainer who targeted Domri
You know, technically, Elspeth could've not only negated the existence of both janitors (with unlimited checks and 2 checks per night), but she also could've figured out who Glissa recruited on night 1 AND figured out if and who the priests recruited on their final nights. Conclusion: Coroner VERY OP
sure afk coroner op
December 30th, 2013, 03:53 PM
revenge is not the key to win this game, that's actually gamethrowing
also vermaak already harmed you a lot, they took out zeke and revealed 2 of your members
revenge is not the key to win this game, that's actually gamethrowing
also vermaak already harmed you a lot, they took out zeke and revealed 2 of your members
December 30th, 2013, 03:48 PM
tonight after you're lynched your team can do the maths and they will figure out:
kill vermaak: mcgrath or nk win
kill town: vermaak or nk win
tonight after you're lynched your team can do the maths and they will figure out:
kill vermaak: mcgrath or nk win
kill town: vermaak or nk win
December 30th, 2013, 03:47 PM
nope we're just 5
nope we're just 5
December 30th, 2013, 03:36 PM
you ensure only your own loss. town loss is already ensured
you ensure only your own loss. town loss is already ensured
December 30th, 2013, 03:32 PM
it doesn't really matter, if we lynch you you are forced to kill vermaak or we will lynch nix tomorrow to remove your kpn
it doesn't really matter, if we lynch you you are forced to kill vermaak or we will lynch nix tomorrow to remove your kpn
December 30th, 2013, 03:24 PM
my faction loss is ensured either way so what
my faction loss is ensured either way so what
December 30th, 2013, 03:19 PM
still killing me ensures your faction loss
still killing me ensures your faction loss
December 30th, 2013, 03:18 PM
[QUOTE=FM Ashiok;411478]Sleep well, tonight will be your last.[/QUOTE]
yes kill me thx
oops forgot you'll be dead...
Originally Posted by
FM Ashiok
Sleep well, tonight will be your last.
yes kill me thx
oops forgot you'll be dead...
December 30th, 2013, 03:17 PM
[QUOTE=FM Ral Zarek;411476]whatever let's lynch ashiok then[COLOR="#FF0000"],[/COLOR] he is confirmed scum
and if we get rid of cole, vermaak can kidnap nix (tessebik imo) to prevent green killing them, otherwise green has the option to take out orange tonight and i promise i will try to get the last orange lynched and not the last green that can kill. then the faction we decide not to kill has won the game. that's it
[vote]FM Ashiok[/vote][/QUOTE]
added comma to make it more clear
[QUOTE=FM Ral Zarek;411477]some other things that i'd like to see
-sifa's fake claim
-elspeth result on sasha inspection
-elspeth's vote
-karn's vote and result[/QUOTE]
some more things:
-meshuvel's result and vote
-elspeth's answer to tamiyo being citizen not possible
Originally Posted by
FM Ral Zarek
whatever let's lynch ashiok then
, he is confirmed scum
and if we get rid of cole, vermaak can kidnap nix (tessebik imo) to prevent green killing them, otherwise green has the option to take out orange tonight and i promise i will try to get the last orange lynched and not the last green that can kill. then the faction we decide not to kill has won the game. that's it
-vote FM Ashiok
added comma to make it more clear
Originally Posted by
FM Ral Zarek
some other things that i'd like to see
-sifa's fake claim
-elspeth result on sasha inspection
-elspeth's vote
-karn's vote and result
some more things:
-meshuvel's result and vote
-elspeth's answer to tamiyo being citizen not possible
December 30th, 2013, 03:15 PM
some other things that i'd like to see
-sifa's fake claim
-elspeth result on sasha inspection
-elspeth's vote
-karn's vote and result
some other things that i'd like to see
-sifa's fake claim
-elspeth result on sasha inspection
-elspeth's vote
-karn's vote and result
December 30th, 2013, 03:13 PM
whatever let's lynch ashiok then he is confirmed scum
and if we get rid of cole, vermaak can kidnap nix (tessebik imo) to prevent green killing them, otherwise green has the option to take out orange tonight and i promise i will try to get the last orange lynched and not the last green that can kill. then the faction we decide not to kill has won the game. that's it
[vote]FM Ashiok[/vote]
whatever let's lynch ashiok then he is confirmed scum
and if we get rid of cole, vermaak can kidnap nix (tessebik imo) to prevent green killing them, otherwise green has the option to take out orange tonight and i promise i will try to get the last orange lynched and not the last green that can kill. then the faction we decide not to kill has won the game. that's it
-vote FM Ashiok
December 30th, 2013, 02:26 PM
so which green should we lynch
we don't know nix
and i dont want to lynch a citizen
so which green should we lynch
we don't know nix
and i dont want to lynch a citizen
December 30th, 2013, 02:16 PM
so it's not possible tamiyo was citizen
you just confirmed you're scum
so it's not possible tamiyo was citizen
you just confirmed you're scum
December 30th, 2013, 02:13 PM
good you're still here
what about reaper, who is last reaper?
and you know that it's not possible there is another cit right?
good you're still here
what about reaper, who is last reaper?
and you know that it's not possible there is another cit right?