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    [Ready for Review] Re: S-FM: Insanity V.2 (13P)

    This setup is crazy and made to mess with players in a fun way. Nice. Review in progress.

    I assume the roles will be handpicked for balance, and then randomized to each slot. Is that correct?...
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    Re: imagine

    Quick, sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic!
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    Sticky: Re: The Fallen

    :O What a shame. Adding you and RLVG to the list.

    https://www.hyperpixelsmedia.com/images/we_salute_our_veterans_1280x720.jpg
  4. [WIP] Re: S-FM Discard Intermediate Mafia

    Fair; the goal of reviewing is not to destroy the setup's spirit. This will be approved as an Experimental Setup at the end of the process, and my comments will be adjusted to follow the spirit you...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    This dead cat is so sadd...

    GG Pringles, you fooled us (well, some of us, myself included). This was fun ^^ also, for Town MVP because overall MVP is quite obviously you lol, Stealthbomber16 for...
  6. [WIP] Re: S-FM Discard Intermediate Mafia

    Some comments before the official review, which should be ready to be done once the wincons and the Town Government roles are added :

    Game starts on N0, during which people pick their rolecard....
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Fair point, noone really posted a lot... I'm unable to make a convinced mind on any of my scumreads, really, but I think my townreads are well placed rn.
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    This may be a valid reasoning.

    Exactly, and that's why I'm never going to lynch him, ever. As for his arguments, they're not shit, but... a bit weak, I agree.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Bringing your attention to "Of course, it's only early D1, so my read might change". Early on, our thoughts aligned nearly perfectly, and he was doing exactly what town should do : encourage...
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    Re: Gaslighting

    theoneceko We're not talking about the same world. Forum mafia and the mod are two different mindsets for a similar game principle. I play the mod and enjoy its atmosphere (toxicity is never really...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Tbh Caustic That can't be dangerous for hammers since he's not being voted at all, and this slot needs pressure. I'm not 100 % sold, though.

    And my Varcron slight scumread kinda fades away in...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You don't even explain WHY they are towny in the first place, so you can't say that you're going by a PoE with...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    The rest of Stealth - Frinckles is a rabbit hole that is rarely worth going down into when you're already convinced that one side is completely innocent, it only generates tunnels, so I'm going to...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I know I have already replied to this post, but now that I've read Frinckles' reply, I can really appreciate the Trump administration reference.

    And for your information, you've got me totally...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    - OMGUS? Making a case against someone with a whole theory cannot be called OMGUS, sorry. You're buzzwording.

    - And when you UNVOTED kovath when he was getting threatened. You forgot to speak...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Hm. Frinckles unvoting Kovath to avoid the L-1 on him sure could be what you think it is, and it's actually relatively likely (when taken as an individual event) since it wasn't far from EoD. That...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:

    Caustic you lack original thoughts and need to make reads by yourself. Making reads = explaining your reads with arguments, not just "If A = 1, then B = 2" because that's...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    :thinking:

    If you were truly loyal to that train of thoughts, you'd be voting me right now... what are you doing? This feels fake. Also, as Varcron said after :



    Pretty much that lol.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Just addressing this first :

    Uh, no. People hammering early and not letting others give their input are extremely anti-town in a 24 hours setup, and preventing it is not "setting up" anything but...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I haven't read anything of D3 as of now, but according to the meta from last game, if you're telling the truth, Frinckles is town... you now know how I felt back then lol. That being said, maybe...
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    [Role Change] Re: Added Option: Consig Read PMs

    I wholeheartedly agree with Frinckles, and think the meta could be greatly improved by improving the Mafia's ability to communicate. It could force the town to play better. Varcron's statement is...
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    Re: Gaslighting

    Nope, it couldn't be a good thread to point fingers at everyone lol, that's not the point. Gaslighting, when done "to have fun and to win the game, not to scar people" as Yzb said, is good IMO (I...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I don't know how to interpret this vote, because there definetly is true anger here, but it could come from any alignment. This vote seems to be mostly out of anger (he townread me not so long ago,...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Yep, and to be honest it's a blessing the Arsonist played like this. Eliminating only Kovath is preventing us from potentially mislynching him (since that was relatively likely imo), and not having...
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    Re: Gaslighting

    Exactly. Just saying "YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON, I HOPE YOU DIE IRL" isn't "proper" gaslighting, it's a personal insult, and that's not allowed in FM. That's exactly what I was excluding in the second...
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    Re: Gaslighting

    I definetly agree that this is the "basic gaslighting" that almost everyone uses. Do you think that it can be pushed farther? Also, how do you gaslight scumreads as town, exactly? Isn't it useless...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    If you're asked "why are you not scum", you cannot reply "because I am town" and expect to actually be townread for it, sorry.

    I'll leave the thread rest for now because it's useless to spam it,...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I'm not saying I'm necessarily right, but I'm quite probably right. If not, you can't say you did nothing to convince me I wasn't right lol. Also, if you get lynched, notice that the votes on you...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I don't think I need to explain how much Frinckles is 100 % right in this argument. I say 100 % right because he's not saying that Toad is 100 % scum, but that it is quite likely that what he was...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    :chickenwings: I'll just comment on Varcron's case and let others comment on my own.



    The first two lines are flawed on both sides, tbh. Wanting a lynch isn't scum indicative by itself, btw....
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    Sticky: Re: The Fallen

    He is not part of staff anymore.
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    gaslighting intensifies PJSalt

    I will let others give their opinion before putting you at L-1 to avoid quick hammers, we need to use the time we have. Also, insulting everyone isn't fun, remember...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Also, have you read my thread about gaslighting?

    https://media.tenor.co/images/a26f81cde4c4de5347375a692fee830c/raw
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    The perspective of the douse checker was not specified at all, and saying that "it would have cleared him [Kovath] immediatly" is strongly implying that it would have made EVERYONE clear him as town,...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Ahem...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    How does you being pro-lynch yesterday relate to you saying :

    ?
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    ALERT.


    This is going to become a 1v1 fight between Toad and myself. Townies, do not let this happen. This is our chance to spark meaningful discussion, participate while we have time to do so.
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Erm, sure, you can say "You're wrong!", but it won't make it become more true, it's just pointless, so I'll disregard this.

    No, not really, it's not fair. I haven't posted a ton of one-liners, and...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    This is contradicting with the post Frinckles quoted. Why do you oppose it while you advocate for it? Am I misunderstanding something?

    "Breadcrumbing" isn't my creation, btw : it's a standard...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    P.S.: Someone like Yayap or Slaol would scream at me saying that I'm thinking only on a surface WIFOM level regarding Frinckles' interaction with Kovath. I would reply that Frinckles doesn't go that...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    This is just plain wrong. We need discussion, and saying "I got vibes" without anything else and then going away is anti-town, not towny, and fits Stealthbomber's scum meta. I did have a townread on...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Arsonist ignited early on the guy who wasn't a townread of mine? Nice.

    I thought I'd have a lot of reading to do, guess not so much. Going to catch up fully, but first, I'll say that Toad -...
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    Gaslighting

    Gaslighting is a behavior often encountered in FM. This thread is here for people to discuss both the moral and strategic aspects of the topic.

    First, to keep things clear : personally attacking a...
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    Re: S-FM 295 Furry Potter

    What? Which secret code lol

    And... that would be slightly possible, given the playstyle, I guess, but I think blink said he was from another site?
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    By the way, I will NOT be here for EoD.

    And I've seen good posts from Varcron that really make me want him to live at least today, maybe put him in town
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Yep, that's why I don't like 24 hours days (and because sometimes people just can't be there much/at all in 24 hours). I wish the host would take petitions on the matter.
    pssh pssh banana psshhhh
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    That too, because taking null reads to LYLO sucks. The wisdom of a lot of sites is speaking through your words and mine :P
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    I concur. Varcron L-2 because we need to start SOMETHING to have info, be it a lynch or a no lynch, but at least some wagon with action. I won't stop anyone from hammering Varcron, a slot that has...
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Fair.


    Feel free to assume mine. And you're right that he's a he lol
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    Re: S-FM 295 Furry Potter

    Rofl but it'd have been so fun... good call anyway

    Also efe, you were a lynch immune beguiler who had to survive, right? Uhm, congratulations on not dying, I guess. xD
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