Why do I need to put a bunch of effort into a game where the current consensus is almost exactly where I want it to be. I'll let deaths shake things up. Even if we're wrong about efe, it wouldn't change my mind about the next 3, Frinkles, MM, and Light.
I'll do more game solving once there's more dead players. Or if I'm dead, in that case any effort that I put in would have been wasted.
What did DS do to not be in that list? I've been trying to find out all day and still don't know.
What I saw was him heavily buddying blink d1, avoiding discussion when I tried talking with him and generally not contributing.
Is there something I missed? Was there something great in the spoiler posts that isn't indicative of what scum usually does to earn townpoints easily?
October 21st, 2019, 01:51 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
The better choice between frinkles and light/efe is not frinkles bc frinkles can actually give us readable content and reads.
October 21st, 2019, 01:51 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
Im pretty sure I cannot be SK
which Efekannn02 would make a DN with proper english?
Why would Rumox still be alive?
Why would I even hit Blink ffs I already lost Mesk!
the last line is why you would hit blink, to make it seem like its not something you would do.
October 21st, 2019, 01:52 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny
What did DS do to not be in that list? I've been trying to find out all day and still don't know.
What I saw was him heavily buddying blink d1, avoiding discussion when I tried talking with him and generally not contributing.
Is there something I missed? Was there something great in the spoiler posts that isn't indicative of what scum usually does to earn townpoints easily?
his day 2 sucks, yeah, but i liked his day 1. i'll give you that.
October 21st, 2019, 01:52 PM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
This is where I’m going to start my case because this is where I really began baiting MM.
I’ll open with stating the purpose of what you’re about to see. I noticed MM was starting to get quite frustrated so I decided to push harder and see what would happen. When I am scum and I’m getting pushed and the people who are pushing me are inarticulate about why they are pushing me, I get extremely frustrated. So I wanted to see what would happen if I purposefully did not articulate why I was pushing MM. I felt safe in the fact I was bottom position on the bird list which is difficult to turbo on, and I was also happy to be directing votes away from blink v frinckles TvT, so it served multiple purposes.
This was when I got the idea. As you can see, he is clearly upset at being first lynch. Ignoring his TPR claim for a moment, we can take a few notes.
1. He is frustrated at why is being pushed.
2. He is very conscious of how he is playing.
3. He was pro-blink by EoD day 1 too (but I won’t be touching on that right now)
I haven’t played enough recently to give you a good meta reading on MM, but I do know that this would be exactly how I would be feeling as scum at this moment. As scum I’m hyper aware of how I’m playing and when I get pushed for things that are false that makes me genuinely upset.
Now that TPR hardclaim above is the direct result of this post
Where I quoted his post where he asked us to invite him and I essentially told him “no”.
There were 3 minutes between this post and his TPR claim, and he did post this between them.
Which means he definitely saw what I posted.
And I called him out on it then.
—
I had much less time than I thought I had so I can’t do much other than this since day ends in like 30 minutes iirc but my point is
MM is frustrated that he is being pushed for the “wrong reasons” and as such he is making mistakes. It’s a simple thing but very effective. I’ll be looking for this as I finish reading the new stuff
And your point is...? Let's recapitulate.
No shit I'm getting frustrated. I'm town and I'm getting pushed because of CRAPPY reasons. Would I be frustrated as scum for being pushed for crappy reasons? Yes, definetly. But the same thing goes for being pushed for crappy reasons AS TOWN. Your point is null and void.
Once again, no shit I'm upset being the first lynch priority there. I'm town, I know I'm town, and I see that people are going to pull a mislynch FOR SURE. That's the basic selfpreservation principle, and it is NOT scummy. Wanting to survive is literally what everyone who's not a jester should be doing... so your point is once again null and void.
Point 1 : just addressed it
Point 2 : After being attacked, yes, I developped a conscience of myself. And once again... that is not scummy.
Point 3 : "Holy shit he defended a townie who flipped town and was nightkilled twice, that's scummy" UH NO XD
There was no "mistake" listed here, there was nothing scummy, just really bad points. So in the name of my town player authority (did I say? I'm town.), I declare this case null and void. It's not scummy by itself because it's just EMPTY lol, so literally, null and void.
October 21st, 2019, 01:52 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I would 100% Lynch efe here but I don't think it's him unfortunately.
I think its Frinckles/Huey/someone else.
fite me.
October 21st, 2019, 01:52 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Voss is right on this point. Efe is intentionally anti-gaming here. If he is town claiming scum and intentionally (and admittedly) causing chaos for the sole purpose of his personal entertainment, while being detrimental to his alignment's wincon, then post-game actions could be taken against him to put a stop to that; our job is to act under the assumption that everyone is playing the game with legitimate intent to win the game, and therefore Efe's play is scummy and fits with his scum meta anyway, so we ought to lynch him.
When did I ever gamethrow at mylo/lylo? you cant just sole when I still follow my desire to win even when im on a big disadvantage
October 21st, 2019, 01:53 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I just noticed that i had Light really far down for some reason so ive put him up a bit.
the last line is why you would hit blink, to make it seem like its not something you would do.
tbh I would hit him
But I already lost Mesk :(
October 21st, 2019, 01:54 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Hey also, you special sporks who are putting light and efe at the bottom, what you are doing is making the list a whole lot more volatile, and making the EoD vote subject to change. Stop it.
This is equivalent to swapping back and forth between vote trains.
October 21st, 2019, 01:54 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoroth
I would 100% Lynch efe here but I don't think it's him unfortunately.
I think its Frinckles/Huey/someone else.
fite me.
Frick you Mag i am a good cop, i do my job and i do it somewhat well.
October 21st, 2019, 01:54 PM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
When did I ever gamethrow at mylo/lylo? you cant just sole when I still follow my desire to win even when im on a big disadvantage
Just saying that I saw this post, but that it shouldn't need to be explained again, so I'm not even going to bother.
October 21st, 2019, 01:55 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Yes, for today, we will lynch a scum ^^
imb4 I flip town and I make a big "I told you so"
October 21st, 2019, 01:55 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
imb4 I flip town and I make a big "I told you so"
you claimed SK, and have no right to say "i told you so"
October 21st, 2019, 01:55 PM
Kenny
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I'll just do this for now. I agree that Efe is a better lynch than Frinckles, while I also would prefer stealth or DS on the podest.