S-FM: Converging Realities

Setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43663-S-FM-Converging-Realities-(13-Players)

A few minor changes may be made to the setup before start. I'm posting signups now, but the game will likely not start for a couple of weeks to reduce conflict with Damus'/Mike's FM.

Game Start:https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...0+2019+7pm+PST

Signups

1. Damus_Graves
2. Kenny
3. Stealthbomber16
4. The Lawyer
5. Bahkieh
6. Efekannn02
7. Yayap
8. Mike
9. Ganelon
10. Banshis
11. Light_Yagami
12. Eclipse
13. Marshmallow Marshall

Reserves
1. Glip
2. xDarkDragonDx
3. Numbertwo
4. Rumox

/sign

/sign

/confirm

/sign

/sign

/sign

/sign

i want to play so bad :(
bump

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Originally Posted by Cryptonic

i want to play so bad :(
bump

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As I said this likely won't be going for around another 2 weeks. Are you just not going to have any time to play at all during this period?

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

As I said this likely won't be going for around another 2 weeks. Are you just not going to have any time to play at all during this period?

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Yea, I have a baby coming in a few weeks, so I don't think I should commit to a game lol

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Originally Posted by Cryptonic

Yea, I have a baby coming in a few weeks, so I don't think I should commit to a game lol

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Okay, congrats! You and Damus ended up having kids at pretty much the same time.

It’s in the air

Move me to /reserve

Life is throwing me curveballs. Don't know how much time I'll have free for games.

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Originally Posted by Glip

Move me to /reserve

Life is throwing me curveballs. Don't know how much time I'll have free for games.

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As mentioned, this game likely won't start for at least a couple weeks. I'll move you to the reserve, but there might not be interference unless you end up being busy long term.

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

As mentioned, this game likely won't start for at least a couple weeks. I'll move you to the reserve, but there might not be interference unless you end up being busy long term.

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Curveballs are keeping me busy at least until March. Gotta find a place to live and move in before then.

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Originally Posted by Glip

Curveballs are keeping me busy at least until March. Gotta find a place to live and move in before then.

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O wow.... Good luck

/sign

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Originally Posted by Glip

Move me to /reserve

Life is throwing me curveballs. Don't know how much time I'll have free for games.

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:(
I was interested in playing with you more...

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Originally Posted by Yayap

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I was interested in playing with you more...

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Sorry. If in a couple of weeks it seems like I will have the time to give the game the attention is deserves, I'll consider signing again, but as it is, I think the game is better off without me. Especially if my performance in blink's game is anything to go by.

@Damus_Graves
@Kenny
@Stealthbomber16
@The Lawyer
@Mike
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Yayap


As mentioned, the FM still won't start for at least a week. However, I would like to get some opinions on the preferred day/night times...


Option A) Both "realities" run in parallel with 72 hour days and 24 hour nights. This is how it is currently in the setup.

Option B) The "realities" are slanted so that only one thread is open at a time. RealityA would be open for 48 hours, followed by RealityB being open for 48 hours, followed by a 24 hour night. Only one thread would need to be attended to at a time, but the overall time required to reach the convergence would be extended by 48 hours (From 8 days irl to 10 days).


I'll do whichever version is preferred by the majority of the players.

I vote for Option A. I'm not a fan of leaving a thread (a reality) dead for 72h straight.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

I vote for Option A. I'm not a fan of leaving a thread (a reality) dead for 72h straight.

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I agree option a

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

@Damus_Graves
@Kenny
@Stealthbomber16
@The Lawyer
@Mike
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Yayap


As mentioned, the FM still won't start for at least a week. However, I would like to get some opinions on the preferred day/night times...


Option A) Both "realities" run in parallel with 72 hour days and 24 hour nights. This is how it is currently in the setup.

Option B) The "realities" are slanted so that only one thread is open at a time. RealityA would be open for 48 hours, followed by RealityB being open for 48 hours, followed by a 24 hour night. Only one thread would need to be attended to at a time, but the overall time required to reach the convergence would be extended by 48 hours (From 8 days irl to 10 days).


I'll do whichever version is preferred by the majority of the players.

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Option A reads to me like there would be two threads going at one time.
Is this accurate or am i misunderstanding @Auckmid

A)

I'm good either option.. something tells me that with the amount of killing roles and no lookout, I won't live long.

/reserve currently for reasons u already know of Auckmid

@Yayap If you survive night 1 you are scum

Option A is faster, 4 day cycle instead of 5 day. These games can tend to drag on as it is. Let the multiple simultaneous daythread confusion begin!

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Originally Posted by Banshis

/reserve currently for reasons u already know of Auckmid

@Yayap If you survive night 1 you are scum

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Well if you want to start this now, then I claim that a doctor on me possibility might persuade scum to not hit me. Thus I might make it to day 2.

I'm seeing much more support for option A, so no changes will be made to the setup in that regard.

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Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

Option A reads to me like there would be two threads going at one time.
Is this accurate or am i misunderstanding @Auckmid

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Yes, both threads will be open at the same time.


The following additional notes have been added to the setup...

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

Additional Rules

1) The host reserves the right to add uncommon or unique roles to the setup in addition to the special roles/keywords given above. However...
2) The following mechanics will NOT exist in the setup:

• Roles which must die to fulfill their win condition (ex: Jester)
• Roles which can win with different opposing factions (ex: Survivor)
• Roles that cause other players to change alignments (ex: Cult Leader)

3) Cause of death will not be given pre-convergence but will be given post-convergence, including the cause of death for people who died prior to the convergence in both realities.
4) No last wills or death notes.

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Quite a few players who were available earlier in the winter aren't available at the moment. We will see if there is an influx of signups at the conclusion of the ongoing FMs. If not, the start of the FM might need to be delayed for some of those players to become available again.

sign

/sign 🙃

I will tentatively move my /reserve back to a /sign, assuming this still isn't starting for another couple weeks.

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Originally Posted by Glip

I will tentatively move my /reserve back to a /sign, assuming this still isn't starting for another couple weeks.

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I'm not completely certain on when I'll start the FM. I'll give at least 3 days warning before starting the FM, so if you are still too busy at that point, I'll move you back to reserve.

Auckmid! Shhhhh... You are making it too obvious that your example setup is 100% not the setup. I'm trying to setup wifom before the game starts to survive N1.
<:)

Ps.. Prefer town, I'm tired of having to rewire my brain to play scum.

lol, I'll just leave the cult leader in the example setup as it is :)

/reserve pls, I'll be busy a couple of weeks

When does the game start?

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Originally Posted by The Lawyer

When does the game start?

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Even though there is still a bit of uncertainty, it will most likely begin some time next week.

Ideally, we will get the last 4 signups in the next few days and then I can set an exact start date based off of that. If it comes to it, I will downsize the setup to work with less then 13 players.

/sign
My game'll start after Auckmid's ends.

Change to /reserve have a lot going on. Sorry.

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Any chance you could start the game anytime after next Wednesday? I'll be quite busy till then

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Originally Posted by Ganelon

Any chance you could start the game anytime after next Wednesday? I'll be quite busy till then

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Sure.

After giving some recent thought, I have decided to give a vague role list for the 13 player setup for both realities.

Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town


This has been added to the setup.

/back-up

Swap me to /reserve, please.

@Damus_Graves @Marshmallow Marshall


After giving it some thought, I don't think that I can downsize the setup without heavily gimping the mechanics I would want to have in play. While there are several players that will become available again in a few weeks, I don't think that I am realistically going to fill the last 4 slots that quickly. For that reason, I'm happy to push this game down in the queue and let Ganelon go first if he is able to get the appropriate numbers for his game. If not, setup sizes might have to be downsized for a bit until there is a higher amount of player activity again on the site.

My /sign should be good to go to start any time. Shame so many people are stuck in the reserves list for now

Just to let everyone know one of these weekends I will not be able to play as my wedding anniversary. Is Feb 10 yes us men can remember lol. I promised my wife a hunnymoon weekend. Meaning spending time with her no games lol. Only putting this out there so you all understand why I am not signing up.. now if I can play one during the week and have a sub for the weekend that would be ok. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Just to let everyone know one of these weekends I will not be able to play as my wedding anniversary. Is Feb 10 yes us men can remember lol. I promised my wife a hunnymoon weekend. Meaning spending time with her no games lol. Only putting this out there so you all understand why I am not signing up.. now if I can play one during the week and have a sub for the weekend that would be ok. Lol.

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Awww! I hope you guys have an amazing honeymoon!

:D

/sign

why isnt anyone unsigning?

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

why isnt anyone unsigning?

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why unsign when we can just lynch you d1?

The moments when the meme doesn’t pan out the way you dreamed.

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Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

The moments when the meme doesn’t pan out the way you dreamed.

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No One Can Lynch Me D1

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

why isnt anyone unsigning?

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Because you waited 13 minutes between those posts and I have a decent sleep schedule these days.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Because you waited 13 minutes between those posts and I have a decent sleep schedule these days.

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Doesnt Answer My Question Still

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Doesnt Answer My Question Still

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I still don't know you, but the youtube poop Morshu avatar foreshadows great futures ahead.

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

No One Can Lynch Me D1

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Or we might get lucky and someone will kill you n1.

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Originally Posted by Glip

I still don't know you, but the youtube poop Morshu avatar foreshadows great futures ahead.

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https://i.ibb.co/vdCF4MZ/rational.png

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Originally Posted by Yayap

Or we might get lucky and someone will kill you n1.

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Why Would Anyone Want To Kill Me N1?

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Why Would Anyone Want To Kill Me N1?

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Because u succ

/last priority sign

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Originally Posted by Arsonist

Because u succ

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No I Dont Im Actually Needed For The Scum Team Sometimes Lol

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

No I Dont Im Actually Needed For The Scum Team Sometimes Lol

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exactly, hoping to see a vig shoot you.

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Originally Posted by Yayap

exactly, hoping to see a vig shoot you.

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I hope Efekannn02 dies from ligma

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Originally Posted by Yayap

exactly, hoping to see a vig shoot you.

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Oh Hope He Will Cause He Will Be Pretty Sure Im Town

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

No One Can Lynch Me D1

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Wanna Bet?

/Sign

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Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

Wanna Bet?

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I bet he'll get lynched on D1.
So i'll just vote him at start of the setup.

/sign if there's a spot

/Sign @Auckmid
Sorry for the flip flop

We have a full sign up now as well as several reliable people reserving. I'll begin starting up the game after the conclusion of Mage's Guild.

Bump me to reserve

I was saying I am good after tomorrow. If you start Thursday or after I am good. that is when Mags game will prob be over. It was just that Friday - Wednesday this week that just past. I was a bit tied up.

@Damus_Graves @Kenny @Stealthbomber16 @The Lawyer @Bahkieh @Efekannn02 @Yayap @Mike @Ganelon @Glip @Light_Yagami @Eclipse @Marshmallow Marshall



I'll set the current start date for the FM as midnight PST of Feb 16/17 to minimize the overlap with Ganelon's FM. If anyone wants the start to be delayed slightly, PM me. I'll make a comprehensive rules list and start night 0 before then.

There will be RP for the setup. However, it will only be to add flavor and isn't intended to interfere with the gameplay. Safeguards will be added to help ensure this.

👍👍

Hey if we could start... earlier? :D

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Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

Hey if we could start... earlier? :D

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I Agree Earlier In The Day Would Be Better Start Time.. Also, We Need To Remember To Lynch Efe First In Both Realities..lol

Yea like 9 hours earlier, like it's usually hosted here, would be cool. Otherwise I'll probably never be around at EoD.

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

@Damus_Graves @Kenny @Stealthbomber16 @The Lawyer @Bahkieh @Efekannn02 @Yayap @Mike @Ganelon @Glip @Light_Yagami @Eclipse @Marshmallow Marshall



I'll set the current start date for the FM as midnight PST of Feb 16/17 to minimize the overlap with Ganelon's FM. If anyone wants the start to be delayed slightly, PM me. I'll make a comprehensive rules list and start night 0 before then.

There will be RP for the setup. However, it will only be to add flavor and isn't intended to interfere with the gameplay. Safeguards will be added to help ensure this.

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Due to timezones and real life reasons, I won't be able to get on at midnight PST, which is 9 AM of my time. I will literally never be there at EoD. Either some hours earlier or later would be nice. I don't mind which date the game starts, though.
Sorry!

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Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

I Agree Earlier In The Day Would Be Better Start Time.. Also, We Need To Remember To Lynch Efe First In Both Realities..lol

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wont happen

So then get your votes in and say what you have to say before eod. Don't need eod to get things done.

For my part I just want the game to start LOL

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Originally Posted by Yayap

So then get your votes in and say what you have to say before eod. Don't need eod to get things done.

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Don't need to fuck us over for no reason when we can fix it either, though.

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Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

For my part I just want the game to start LOL

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That's also a thing xD

I can do whatever time conveniences you most, Auck. Just be aware a noticeable amount of players are EU so this is early morning for them.

Place your bets now

I bet stealthbomber will die on the very first night

Disagree.

Even though I don't believe having EoD at a low activity time is that much of a problem, since it's clear that a significant number of players would prefer a different time, I'll set EoD to be 5 hours earlier (7:00 PM PST)

As someone who has hosted before, I say Host decides when eod is according to his schedule so that he has enough time to complete all the actions, PMs and start of day posts.

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

Even though I don't believe having EoD at a low activity time is that much of a problem, since it's clear that a significant number of players would prefer a different time, I'll set EoD to be 5 hours earlier (7:00 PM PST)

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Sorry to be difficult. I was fine with EoD. I just wanted the game start to be sooner :/

Woot! got 2 awesome town citizen roles. Let the mind games begin!

Fine by me.

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Originally Posted by Auckmid

Even though I don't believe having EoD at a low activity time is that much of a problem, since it's clear that a significant number of players would prefer a different time, I'll set EoD to be 5 hours earlier (7:00 PM PST)

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Thank you, that is fine for me.

We should all appreciate Auckmid willing to adjust the time for us

I should probably be moved to reserves, given the start date now. I'll be very busy next weekend (21st through 24th) and won't be able to play; I'll be helping my girlfriend move to a new country.

Update: The game start will be delayed from 7:00 pm PST on February 17th by 72 hours to February 20th at the same time.

The primary reason for this is that due to Glip's unavailability early on during the game, he will be replaced by Banshis who, in turn, will be very busy until February 22nd. By delaying the game start, I will be giving him an opportunity to participate in day 1, even if his activity will be low for the first half of the day. Additionally, with quite a lot going on atm with me, I could use the extra few days to finalize role cards while also giving at least 24 hours for night 0.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

No problem Auckmid.
Take however long you need mate

This works better for me, actually