S-FM 295: Furry Potter

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

WAIT, OF ALL PEOPLE HE CHOSE YOU?

He definitely wanted Town to win.

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lol no he didn't choose me im just saying he didn't make anything up

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Even if you believe I am objectively scummy, which is A CRAPPY READ, by the way, you can just lynch what the town's wincon tells us to lynch : the other factions. Efe is not from our faction. He must die. SIMPLE AS THAT. Why the fuck would you risk a mislynch lol, especially when we already lynched a Wraith (Ganelon)?

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I Can Win With Both Factions

There Are Only Two Factions Besides The Neutral One

Its In My Wincon

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Why are you ALL CONSTANTLY PULLING RANDOM CLAIMS.

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I was just messing with efe. I think it helped clarify what he is.

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Originally Posted by aamirus

How would we know? Also his death description implies that he tried to kill Efe when he died but Efe was immune

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I'm like 99% sure blink wrote that because 1. Efe is annoying 2. He hammered Dist.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Dude, if Efe just appears to be inmune to lynching I'll:

1. Accept all responsability and flagellate myself.

2. Hate blink for pulling unfair roles.

3. Worship Frinckles' feet for all eternity.

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Lynch immunity is definetly something that looks made up by Efe, and it just wouldn't be fair to have a lynch immune beguiler the Town has to kill somehow. That would never get approved during the review process, honestly. There's 0.00001 % chance of having the lynch immune beguiler Efe claims in the game.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Even if you believe I am objectively scummy, which is A CRAPPY READ, by the way, you can just lynch what the town's wincon tells us to lynch : the other factions. Efe is not from our faction. He must die. SIMPLE AS THAT. Why the fuck would you risk a mislynch lol, especially when we already lynched a Wraith (Ganelon)?

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@Frinckles @Frinckles @Frinckles making sure you don't ignore this.

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Originally Posted by naz

lol no he didn't choose me im just saying he didn't make anything up

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How are you certain?¿?¿??¿?¿?

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Originally Posted by naz

Distorted didn't lie

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Do apostrophes count as punctuation? ...

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Originally Posted by aamirus

I was just messing with efe. I think it helped clarify what he is.

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Nah

I Knew You Were Full Of Crap You Still Are

Im Sorry I Used The Crap Word On You
That Word Is More Suitable For Distorted And Not For A Good Person Like You

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

I Can Win With Both Factions

There Are Only Two Factions Besides The Neutral One

Its In My Wincon

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Maybe you can (and I say maybe, far from convinced), but the Town can't win with you, and that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I'm like 99% sure blink wrote that because 1. Efe is annoying 2. He hammered Dist.

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3. Efekannn02 And Distorted Have A Long Rivalry

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Maybe you can (and I say maybe, far from convinced), but the Town can't win with you, and that's the problem.

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Are You Stupid?

Since When Does The Factionless Count As A Faction?

I CAN WIN WITH ANYONE!

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

ISN'T IT BETTER TO LYNCH ANOTHER NEUTRAL AND THEN CONTINUE WITH THE REST? IF I'M CORRECT YOU ALREADY PREDICTED THIS SCENARIO AND SEEMED REASONABLY OKAY WITH IT.

PLUS MM IS NOT OBJECTIVELY A SCUMMY FUCK.

Although I admit my town read is deteriorating because HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.

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I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW BUT YOUR OPINION HAS NO WEIGHT ON MM BEING SCUMREAD BY EVERYONE ELSE HERE. HIS LYNCH DIRECTLY FOLLOWS THROUGH ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE LAST FEW SLOTS THAT ARE MOSTLY NULL READS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE PROTECTING HIM. YOU ARE HIS DEFENDER, LAWYER AND ANGEL. ULTIMATE AND OMEGA. YOU NEED TO BE STOPPED.

HE IS SCUM BY DEGREE OF THE TOWN TAKEOVER COUNCIL. HIS LYNCH ENSURES THAT WE GET MORE ACTUAL FUCKING READS, OUR VIG SHOOTS IF THEY CAN. OUR TRACKER TRACKS. YOU MAKE A CONFIRM-ABLE CHAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. MORE THINGS HAPPEN LYNCHING OUTSIDE.

AND IF DISTORTED ('EL PADRE DE LAS MENTIRAS') HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, NEUTRALS CAN EITHER WIN WITH TOWN OR WRAITHS SO WE MOVE THE KINGMAKER SITUATION FORWARD EVEN THOUGH I HATE KINGMAKER. WE ARE AHEAD AND HAVE BEEN AHEAD. YOU KNOW THIS. YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER REASONABLE LYNCH. STOP DEFENDING THIS SHIT. OPPORTUNE A SCENARIO WHERE HIS LYNCH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE DESPITE WHAT YOUR DELIRIUM MAY THINK, WE STAND TO GAIN MORE HERE EVEN IN THE WORST CASE OF A TOWN MM.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Lynch immunity is definetly something that looks made up by Efe, and it just wouldn't be fair to have a lynch immune beguiler the Town has to kill somehow. That would never get approved during the review process, honestly. There's 0.00001 % chance of having the lynch immune beguiler Efe claims in the game.

@Frinckles @Frinckles @Frinckles making sure you don't ignore this.

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Maybe Im A Jester And Am Pulling This Shit Up So I Can Troll You Guys


Pretending To Be A Jester Is A Great Way To Survive


You Clearly Forgot That Im Efekannn02 And That I Dont Have A Meta

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW BUT YOUR OPINION HAS NO WEIGHT ON MM BEING SCUMREAD BY EVERYONE ELSE HERE. HIS LYNCH DIRECTLY FOLLOWS THROUGH ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE LAST FEW SLOTS THAT ARE MOSTLY NULL READS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE PROTECTING HIM. YOU ARE HIS DEFENDER, LAWYER AND ANGEL. ULTIMATE AND OMEGA. YOU NEED TO BE STOPPED.

HE IS SCUM BY DEGREE OF THE TOWN TAKEOVER COUNCIL. HIS LYNCH ENSURES THAT WE GET MORE ACTUAL FUCKING READS, OUR VIG SHOOTS IF THEY CAN. OUR TRACKER TRACKS. YOU MAKE A CONFIRM-ABLE CHAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. MORE THINGS HAPPEN LYNCHING OUTSIDE.

AND IF DISTORTED ('EL PADRE DE LAS MENTIRAS') HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, NEUTRALS CAN EITHER WIN WITH TOWN OR WRAITHS SO WE MOVE THE KINGMAKER SITUATION FORWARD EVEN THOUGH I HATE KINGMAKER. WE ARE AHEAD AND HAVE BEEN AHEAD. YOU KNOW THIS. YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER REASONABLE LYNCH. STOP DEFENDING THIS SHIT. OPPORTUNE A SCENARIO WHERE HIS LYNCH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE DESPITE WHAT YOUR DELIRIUM MAY THINK, WE STAND TO GAIN MORE HERE EVEN IN THE WORST CASE OF A TOWN MM.

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Its Ultima And Omega You Dipshit

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Its Ultima And Omega You Dipshit

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Actually Alpha And Omega

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Actually Alpha And Omega

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You're right. At least we're both wrong.

Okay @Frinckles and everyone else but mainly him because he seems to be the one I talk with the most.

Considering Dist's teal flip don't you think he was some kind of benign Neutral? Even more if we look at blinks' last hidden setup that seemed to use traditional colors for its factions.

I hardly think there are 2 benign neutral roles that can actually win with a lot of people, and I actually believe Efe is repeating that non-stop to make us think he doesn't pose a threat.

If he can win with anyone, then what's up with the obsession with getting a squirrel to die? And do you think players that have already won would remain in the game just to be a fucking nuisance and possibly disrupt the game in ways unforeseen?

List of claims:

Marshmallow Marshall - Remus Lupin - Citizen
Efekannn02 - ??? - Claims to be a NEUTRAL (NON-TOWN) beguiler, a spy, a lookout, to have lynch immunity, and a ton of other abilities that are probably as fake as the ones previously listed
Pathfinder - Didn't catch the name - Claims Tracker
Vlad the Impaler - Harry Potter - Claims Citizen
Aamirus - Albus Dumbledore - Claims Vigilante (werewolf thing), very likely town
Frinckles - Didn't catch
Gyrlander - Didn't catch - Claimed town and has the same wincon I have, more or less confirmed in my eyes, claims to have some mysterious action he can't talk about
Naz - Didn't catch


Please fill that list up, it's useful for everyone to have it, and will allow me to start actually thinking about things without having to go in 55 pages of posts.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

You're right. At least we're both wrong.

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Nah

Just You This Time

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

You're right. At least we're both wrong.

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Do You Play Final Fantasy?

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Okay @Frinckles and everyone else but mainly him because he seems to be the one I talk with the most.

Considering Dist's teal flip don't you think he was some kind of benign Neutral? Even more if we look at blinks' last hidden setup that seemed to use traditional colors for its factions.

I hardly think there are 2 benign neutral roles that can actually win with a lot of people, and I actually believe Efe is repeating that non-stop to make us think he doesn't pose a threat.

If he can win with anyone, then what's up with the obsession with getting a squirrel to die? And do you think players that have already won would remain in the game just to be a fucking nuisance and possibly disrupt the game in ways unforeseen?

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This Game Is Stupid

My Rolecard Says I Hate Squirrels But It Also Says That I Like Blinkskater

This Is Disgusting And Contradicting

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW BUT YOUR OPINION HAS NO WEIGHT ON MM BEING SCUMREAD BY EVERYONE ELSE HERE. HIS LYNCH DIRECTLY FOLLOWS THROUGH ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE LAST FEW SLOTS THAT ARE MOSTLY NULL READS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE PROTECTING HIM. YOU ARE HIS DEFENDER, LAWYER AND ANGEL. ULTIMATE AND OMEGA. YOU NEED TO BE STOPPED.

HE IS SCUM BY DEGREE OF THE TOWN TAKEOVER COUNCIL. HIS LYNCH ENSURES THAT WE GET MORE ACTUAL FUCKING READS, OUR VIG SHOOTS IF THEY CAN. OUR TRACKER TRACKS. YOU MAKE A CONFIRM-ABLE CHAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. MORE THINGS HAPPEN LYNCHING OUTSIDE.

AND IF DISTORTED ('EL PADRE DE LAS MENTIRAS') HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, NEUTRALS CAN EITHER WIN WITH TOWN OR WRAITHS SO WE MOVE THE KINGMAKER SITUATION FORWARD EVEN THOUGH I HATE KINGMAKER. WE ARE AHEAD AND HAVE BEEN AHEAD. YOU KNOW THIS. YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER REASONABLE LYNCH. STOP DEFENDING THIS SHIT. OPPORTUNE A SCENARIO WHERE HIS LYNCH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE DESPITE WHAT YOUR DELIRIUM MAY THINK, WE STAND TO GAIN MORE HERE EVEN IN THE WORST CASE OF A TOWN MM.

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Do you have the same wincon we do? Because you are definetly not playing directly for it lol. If I flip town, it's not better than if you make Efe flip non-town. That's simple. You don't have the perspective of someone with our wincon.

I Like How The Strong Always Make Shit Up So The Public Doesnt Know The Truth

Im Just Repeating History

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW BUT YOUR OPINION HAS NO WEIGHT ON MM BEING SCUMREAD BY EVERYONE ELSE HERE. HIS LYNCH DIRECTLY FOLLOWS THROUGH ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE LAST FEW SLOTS THAT ARE MOSTLY NULL READS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE PROTECTING HIM. YOU ARE HIS DEFENDER, LAWYER AND ANGEL. ULTIMATE AND OMEGA. YOU NEED TO BE STOPPED.

HE IS SCUM BY DEGREE OF THE TOWN TAKEOVER COUNCIL. HIS LYNCH ENSURES THAT WE GET MORE ACTUAL FUCKING READS, OUR VIG SHOOTS IF THEY CAN. OUR TRACKER TRACKS. YOU MAKE A CONFIRM-ABLE CHAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. MORE THINGS HAPPEN LYNCHING OUTSIDE.

AND IF DISTORTED ('EL PADRE DE LAS MENTIRAS') HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, NEUTRALS CAN EITHER WIN WITH TOWN OR WRAITHS SO WE MOVE THE KINGMAKER SITUATION FORWARD EVEN THOUGH I HATE KINGMAKER. WE ARE AHEAD AND HAVE BEEN AHEAD. YOU KNOW THIS. YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER REASONABLE LYNCH. STOP DEFENDING THIS SHIT. OPPORTUNE A SCENARIO WHERE HIS LYNCH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE DESPITE WHAT YOUR DELIRIUM MAY THINK, WE STAND TO GAIN MORE HERE EVEN IN THE WORST CASE OF A TOWN MM.

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1. I liked the first part.

2. Tell me what would happen FOR YOU depending on every possible flip WE COULD GET FROM MM.

3. The post I just wrote. I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO FUCKING LYNCH EFE. IF NOT, I ALSO PROVIDED AN ORDER FOR LYNCH I DO NOT QUITE REMEMBER BUT INCLUDED VLAD AND THEN NAZ (PATHFINDER ELIMINATED SINCE HIS "APPARENTLY LEGITIMATE" TRACKER CLAIM).

You're doing things wrong if Grylander isnt dead by the end of the day

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Okay @Frinckles and everyone else but mainly him because he seems to be the one I talk with the most.

Considering Dist's teal flip don't you think he was some kind of benign Neutral? Even more if we look at blinks' last hidden setup that seemed to use traditional colors for its factions.

I hardly think there are 2 benign neutral roles that can actually win with a lot of people, and I actually believe Efe is repeating that non-stop to make us think he doesn't pose a threat.

If he can win with anyone, then what's up with the obsession with getting a squirrel to die? And do you think players that have already won would remain in the game just to be a fucking nuisance and possibly disrupt the game in ways unforeseen?

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No. I think you're just too focused in on Efe's lies. We have tangibility to one claim. We simply stand to use our mislynch elsewhere at the moment. It tells us who to narrow down to.

And really man, has MM really helped the town that much this game? Even if I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt that he may be town, he hasn't been overtly useful in narrowing down scum. He and Distorted were both hard stuck on me and I know you and many other non-verbally town cored me a while ago. That's the reality of the game.

I asked you to consider a scenario where an MM lynch gets you information because I can promise you it will be an inevitability today. You will not win that argument.

Why Am I Immortal?


No One Wants To Lynch Me
No One Wants To Night Kill Me (Aamirus Learned From Her Mistake)
Im The Only Person Left That Can Ally With The Wraiths
But I Can Also Win With The Town
I Got The Most Stupidest Role And I Would Have Only Had Beguiler Powers If Stealth Didnt Die

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Originally Posted by Mesk514

You're doing things wrong if Grylander isnt dead by the end of the day

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<3

-vote Gyrlander

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

1. I liked the first part.

2. Tell me what would happen FOR YOU depending on every possible flip WE COULD GET FROM MM.

3. The post I just wrote. I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO FUCKING LYNCH EFE. IF NOT, I ALSO PROVIDED AN ORDER FOR LYNCH I DO NOT QUITE REMEMBER BUT INCLUDED VLAD AND THEN NAZ (PATHFINDER ELIMINATED SINCE HIS "APPARENTLY LEGITIMATE" TRACKER CLAIM).

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I was writing this post as you wrote yours. Mine just took longer. Had to google spanish.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I was writing this post as you wrote yours. Mine just took longer. Had to google spanish.

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Parles Vous La France?

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Originally Posted by Mesk514

You're doing things wrong if Grylander isnt dead by the end of the day

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Why?

my role was a mistake

List of claims:

Marshmallow Marshall - Remus Lupin - Citizen
Efekannn02 - Hermione - Claims to be a NEUTRAL (NON-TOWN) beguiler, a spy, a lookout, to have lynch immunity, and a ton of other abilities that are probably as fake as the ones previously listed
Pathfinder - Ron Wesley - Claims Tracker, D1 Banana visited Vlad D2 Frinckles didn't visit anyone
Vlad the Impaler - Harry Potter - Claims Citizen
Aamirus - Albus Dumbledore - Claims Vigilante (werewolf thing), very likely town
Frinckles - Severus Snape, has claimed Vigilante and Doctor and apparently confirms to be the latter. Healed Gyrlander D1 and didn't do anything D2?¿?¿?¿??¿?¿¿ @Frinckles WHY
Gyrlander - Female Magical (Animagus?Furry?Animal?)- Claimed town and has the same wincon I have, more or less confirmed in my eyes, claims to have some mysterious action he can't talk about -> Knows there's no Luna Lovegood in the game. Can provide a fruit to a player AT THE START OF THE NIGHT and if they are a certain animal a Night Chat is established. N1 Creatd Night Chat with SB16 N2 Gave fruit to Banana, no Night Chat
Naz - Draco Malfoy - Escort: Roleblock @naz who did you roleblock D1? D2 Vlad

@Frinckles
You keep suggesting that Efe could be in a scum team with me so how is not objectively a better lynch than MM right now? He’s either scum or neutral whereas mm at least could be town. If you believe my claim then he’s got beguiler powers which is pretty scummy and if you don’t believe me then he’s scum. Whereas MM is just a read you’ve not updated since d1. I don’t understand your reasoning.

What do we actually learn if he flips town? What do we learn if he flips scum?

Or do you really believe Efe is a lynch immune beguiler aka immortal?

Allow me to quote the late, great Banana:

You're literally self admitted Serius Blacks best friend
You claim cit. Youre expendable

You've given me no reason to trust you. You weren't part of the special turbolynch that we orchestrated yesterday at last second on your mate

Please die now

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

No. I think you're just too focused in on Efe's lies. We have tangibility to one claim. We simply stand to use our mislynch elsewhere at the moment. It tells us who to narrow down to.

And really man, has MM really helped the town that much this game? Even if I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt that he may be town, he hasn't been overtly useful in narrowing down scum. He and Distorted were both hard stuck on me and I know you and many other non-verbally town cored me a while ago. That's the reality of the game.

I asked you to consider a scenario where an MM lynch gets you information because I can promise you it will be an inevitability today. You will not win that argument.

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I admit a MM lynch will get us information, as basically any other lynch (okey, Efe would give less, I ADMIT IT). If MM's death is inevitable I'll just hope he manages to convince you guys

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Originally Posted by aamirus

@Frinckles
You keep suggesting that Efe could be in a scum team with me so how is not objectively a better lynch than MM right now? He’s either scum or neutral whereas mm at least could be town. If you believe my claim then he’s got beguiler powers which is pretty scummy and if you don’t believe me then he’s scum. Whereas MM is just a read you’ve not updated since d1. I don’t understand your reasoning.

What do we actually learn if he flips town? What do we learn if he flips scum?

Or do you really believe Efe is a lynch immune beguiler aka immortal?

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That's easy. Because I do not believe Vlad was ever 'attacked' explicitly which makes both of your claims true barring some weird SK mechanic.

You and @Gyrlander can evaluate the voting choices made day one and day two. Cross reference those with players who have been largely null reads and you'll see this largely clears Pathfinder as Town.

Who else is left?

I Side With MM

If I Win I Deserve MVP

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Originally Posted by Efekannn02

I Side With MM

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Can we lynch this !^!*^·!"^·*!·*!^·*!"*·

And to clarify, no I do not believe Efe is lynch immune.

But the quality of information we stand to gain with his bluff (whether it is one or not) is far better outside of his lynch than with it.

This is not a strange alignment related choice. This is a privilege of the fact that we've played well so far. We are ahead, still and more-so.

Also, naz claims to have roleblocked MM night one and there was still a kill. However, nobody was claiming to be blackmailed on d2 I think? But now gyrlander is. So that’s interesting.

@Gyrlander post another cat if the same thing happened to you on night one that is stopping you from speaking right now

I'm like 90% sure that Efe has got a role that will totally mess us up if we get to a crucial point with less players.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Can we lynch this !^!*^·!"^·*!·*!^·*!"*·

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Dont You Dare :)

I Have You All In The Bag

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

That's easy. Because I do not believe Vlad was ever 'attacked' explicitly which makes both of your claims true barring some weird SK mechanic.

You and @Gyrlander can evaluate the voting choices made day one and day two. Cross reference those with players who have been largely null reads and you'll see this largely clears Pathfinder as Town.

Who else is left?

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What do you mean with Vlad being attacked?!!?

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Originally Posted by Mesk514

You're doing things wrong if Grylander isnt dead by the end of the day

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@Mesk514 can you explain why, taking into account that Gyrlander is the first to have claimed his wincon (must eliminate all other factions), that I claim to have the same wincon, and that if you're a cit as you claim to be, you should probably have the same? That, in addition to not jumping on the easy lynch that I am (if you think I'm scum, well, ask yourself if it wouldn't just be better for gyr to bus me instead of defending me if he was my scummate)? And in addition to a ton of contributions, which is not his scum meta, and you know it? Why the hell are you tunneled on him lol, he's been towny since D1 and you have been voting him since D1 for trolly reasons.

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Originally Posted by aamirus

Also, naz claims to have roleblocked MM night one and there was still a kill. However, nobody was claiming to be blackmailed on d2 I think? But now gyrlander is. So that’s interesting.

@Gyrlander post another cat if the same thing happened to you on night one that is stopping you from speaking right now

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aamirus, you're trying to see things that aren't there.

My restrictions are inherent to me.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I'm like 90% sure that Efe has got a role that will totally mess us up if we get to a crucial point with less players.

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>immortal
>can win with anyone
>sides with the wraiths

yeah you're right

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

That's easy. Because I do not believe Vlad was ever 'attacked' explicitly which makes both of your claims true barring some weird SK mechanic.

You and @Gyrlander can evaluate the voting choices made day one and day two. Cross reference those with players who have been largely null reads and you'll see this largely clears Pathfinder as Town.

Who else is left?

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And how does him being a legit beguiler make him more likely to be a solo neutral than a mafia? Pathfinder voted on mag way before EOD when there were zero other votes on him so meh to that. Distorted was not Mafia so meh to that.

I Will Destroy You All

The People I Hide Behind Actually Get Arsonisted

Unfortunetaly Im Vulnerable When I Press The Trigger Button :(