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Who, why and how came up with the idea to call "Random" roles "Hidden"?
I honestly fail to see the logic in it. :(
Not sure how would one figure it out without knowing it beforehand or someone saying it or setup saying it. Seems to me like a way to needlessly make the game more complicated for newer players?
Firebringer had a mad do and complained about dat shit. Bout people calling it random when its not random.
Hidden= Handpicked buy Host
Random= Chosen by "random" selection
I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJack
As logical as it is - it's still just making the game more complicated for newer players. And the reason behind it's existence is nerd rage from experienced players. Great :D
Tbh, I am so dumb that I just few minutes ago realized that hidden="random". :(
Yeh, you just have to trust the host.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzyWho
As a host, one of your main objectives is strive to make a highly balanced game to make it as competitive and fun playing as possible ^^
Selecting what roles allows you to have much more control over the balance.
One of the biggest problems with true random, is how fucked up the game can roll :P
What else could 'Hidden' mean, and why does it make the game more complicated for new people?
It took me reading several setups in a row to realize that "hidden townie" =/= "citizen".Quote:
Originally Posted by Voss
I am not a smart person, I don't deny that. But you got your answer.
In setups with lots of rng having lots of random elements is completely gamebreaking so most hosts will just kind of chill with handpicking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzyWho
Then firebringer threw a fit over the terminology.
:wm:
Honestly, I think it's nice to have that kind of transparency. The terrible site layout is probably causing more hassle to noobs than terminology choices. IIRC, I spent years intermittently lurking in mafia discussion until I realized the main function of the site was to play mafia games LOL.
In general, I think the host should be as unambiguous as possible about things like role selection. Many setups can benefit a lot from their own ambiguity, but setups with fewer ambiguous features are harder to host meta.
Thank you for teaching me 2 new words.Quote:
Originally Posted by yzb25
:wm:Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJack
I like that 'Hidden' Exists. It adds something to figure out. Sure its almost always not random but it creates a game environment thats positive to the experience available in being played.
:wm: is the best host ever!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Jajajaja :D after all, he reached his goal: he is the host we have the most fun with!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsonist