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Popeyes has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Popeyes (5 [L-0]): Taco Bell (Mayor), Jack in the Box, Subway, KFC, Dominos
Dominos (3 [L-2]): Burger King, Popeyes, Arbys
Night 4
The day has ended by lynch!
Popeyes has been lynched.
Popeyes' role was Jonah Simon.
Popeyes left a last will:Spoiler : Popeyes' Last Will :
Popeyes (5 [L-0]): Taco Bell (Mayor), Jack in the Box, Subway, KFC, Dominos
Dominos (3 [L-2]): Burger King, Popeyes, Arbys
Living Players Graveyard @Dominos
@KFC
@Burger King
@Subway
@Jack in the Box
@Taco Bell
@Arbys@Wendys (Sofija Blackmore) - Lynched Day 1.
@Pizza Hut (Zayna Lu) - Killed Night 1.
@Papa Johns (Kobe Woolley) - Killed Night 1.
@Chipotle (Bobbi Thorne) - Lynched Day 2.
@Starbucks (Javier Robles) - Killed Night 2.
@Chick-fil-A (Miriam Stark) - Killed Night 2.
@Dairy Queen (Julien Wagstaff) - Lynched Day 3.
@McDonalds (John-Paul Beattie) - Killed Night 3.
@Popeyes (Jonah Simon) - Lynched Day 4.
Night 4 will end in 24 hours, on January 6, @ 12:30 PM EST.
Night actions are required to be in at least 1 hour before night ends.
Night actions are locked in. Game is over, Coven of Eternal Night has won.
I'll write up my thoughts, etc, and open up the setup living players today.
Game Over
Living Players Graveyard @Dominos
@KFC
@Burger King
@Jack in the Box
@Taco Bell
@Arbys@Wendys (Sofija Blackmore) - Lynched Day 1.
@Pizza Hut (Zayna Lu) - Killed Night 1.
@Papa Johns (Kobe Woolley) - Killed Night 1.
@Chipotle (Bobbi Thorne) - Lynched Day 2.
@Starbucks (Javier Robles) - Killed Night 2.
@Chick-fil-A (Miriam Stark) - Killed Night 2.
@Dairy Queen (Julien Wagstaff) - Lynched Day 3.
@McDonalds (John-Paul Beattie) - Killed Night 3.
@Popeyes (Jonah Simon) - Lynched Day 4.
@Subway (Antonia Wagstaff) - Killed Night 4.
@Burger King (Carley Rosales) - Killed Night 4.
Thank you all for participating! Balancing Hidden Setups is something new to me, so I appreciate players helping me learn. I definitely learned a lot from this game. Hindsight, I should have balanced a few things better:
- I thought giving the Mafia an Actress and a Mafioso who can't kill alone would help nerf a 4 man team. I thought the larger Mafia would also lead to more fear mongering regarding the Traitor mechanic, but this wasn't a huge concern for the Mafia past N1. However, it appears a 4 man Mafia was likely too powerful for a Hidden Setup of this size.
- I threw in a SK into the ICU detective block to help give a lone SK team an additional ability to help hide in day chat. However, Town losing the Sheriff n1 wasn't something I accounted for (but definitely should have). In hindsight, I should have made a fail safe for something like this to allow the SK to be caught more easily (by finding Town or finding SK itself). It was extremely unlikely that the Detective group would vote to follow their own, unless that player was extremely shady. Maybe they should have a group heal, instead? IDK, could have been interesting.
- I thought of making a way to make the SK immune to witching, but I cast that idea aside when it didn't work with the RP. I believe that this was a mistake, and I probably should have found a way to prevent Mafia from picking up a second NK. I guess I could have made it so that the Witch could only target each player once, or find some lore-related reason to make the SK immune to witching.
After watching the game play out, I do feel that this setup was sided against Town, and also against the SK. However, I feel that D1 and N1 being different could have changed the entire outcome of the game, so I'm definitely not disappointed in this game. It was a lot of fun to read, and see what people thought.
I appreciated the fact that players actually tried to use the RP, and thought it was pretty humorous that Mafia was able to use it to kill the conversation and divert it to made-up Roleplay. This is definitely part of what I hope for when I create Hidden Setups. That, and I also like when players make up their own roles, because no one knows what's true or not.
I made a troll role of Javier Robles, and I am actually in love with this role. It does absolutely nothing, but actually had a profound impact on the game. I'm surprised how it turned out. KFC really played into receiving the item well.
What was almost INSULTING was that player thought this was a 2 faction NK + Cult, and believed that there was an anti-Cult Mason because of this. HOW RUDE. lmao.
I also "liked" that D1 in both of my Hidden Games, there was a Mafia member who claimed their real name D1 lol. Both times I think I face palmed, but both times the Mafia got away with it lmao. It have been very entertaining to watch.
I have taken the feedback from Dead Chat into consideration, and definitely appreciate the ideas on making Hidden Setups more balanced. I already have ideas for another Setup that tries to solve my oversights in this game, so I hope players would be interested in trying to help me work through another game :P
It's hard for me to personally pick an MVP in this game, because I found that everyone put in a lot of effort into the game. There were a few players that stuck out.. I really enjoyed watching KFC play, he had very good points and participation, he used the fake item well in order to draw scum attention, and overall enjoyed his presence in the game.
Taco Bell... Taco Bell's presence was less enjoyable to read lmao, but definitely was extremely successful in what he was purposefully trying to accomplish. So, I have to give him some props for successfully pulling off his gambit until later in the game. I also appreciated that he attempted to over use RP. As a host, it was enjoyable to see everyone who tried to discuss with him pulling their hair out in frustration lmao.
I was really surprised at Pizza Hut's activity for the time he was in the game. Sure, the reads weren't perfect, but the game was early and he had 0 information to go on. He really killed it with his Citizen participation, and I truly wish all my Citizens were like Pizza Hut.
These shout outs being said, I do think everyone played well. Based on the information they had, everyone played well and tried hard. I REALLY appreciate it, you guys made this game worth hosting. So THANK YOU!
Thanks everyone who PM'd me with their insight and thoughts of the game, it is always enjoyable to read what players actually think about the game vs what the tell other players they think about the game. Probably the best part of being a host.
Thank you to everyone who participated in this game! Town win next game???? Let's do this.
Account Role Player Dominos
Chipotle
KFC
Burger King
Pizza Hut
Dairy Queen
Chick-fil-A
Papa Johns
Subway
Wendys
Jack in the Box
Starbucks
Popeyes
Taco Bell
McDonalds
ArbysLeja Osborn
Bobbi Thorne
Curtis Stevens
Carley Rosales
Zayna Lu
Julien Wagstaff
Miriam Stark
Kobe Woolley
Antonina Wagstaff
Sofija Blackmore
Elouise Traynor
Javier Robles
Jonah Simon
Libby Lewis
John-Paul Beattie
Lorenzo VasquezYayap
stealthbomber16
Glip
Gerik
Auckmid
blinkskater
Gyrlander
NoctiZ
MM
Kenny
TDL
Slaol
Damus
Mike
Numbertwo
Banshis
1. Elouise Traynor
2. Leja Osborn
3. CoEN NK/Lorenzo Vasquez/John-Paul Beattie
4. Sofija Blackmore
5. Kobe Woolley
6. Libby Lewis/Javier Robles/Antonina Wagstaff
7. ICU received feedback
D1:
John Paul-Beatttie (JAIL//Chick-fil-a)
N1:
1. Elouise Traynor (WITCH//KFC -> Chick-fil-A)
2. Leja Osborn (ROLEBLOCK//McDonalds)
3. CoEN NK(DAIRY QUEEN -> Pizza Hut)/Lorenzo Vasquez (KILL//Papa Johns)/John-Paul Beattie(Execute-ROLEBLOCKED-)
4. Kobe Woolley (-DEAD-)
5. Libby Lewis(ACTRESS//Subway)/Javier Robles(GIFT//KFC)/Antonina Wagstaff
6. ICU received feedback (DETECTIVE//Starbucks -> KFC)
D2:
John Paul-Beatttie (JAIL//Dominos)
N2:
1. Elouise Traynor (WITCH//Arbys -> Chick-fil-A)
2. Leja Osborn (ROLEBLOCK//Chick-fil-A)
3. CoEN NK(DAIRY QUEEN -> Starbucks)/Lorenzo Vasquez (KILL//-WITCHED -> Chick-fil-A-)/John-Paul Beattie(No execute)
4. Libby Lewis(ACTRESS//-No action-)/Javier Robles(GIFT//-Dead-)/Antonina Wagstaff
5. ICU received feedback (DETECTIVE//Dairy Queen -> Starbucks)
D3:
John Paul-Beatttie (JAIL//Burger King)
N3:
1. Elouise Traynor (WITCH//Popeyes -> KFC)
2. Leja Osborn (ROLEBLOCK//KFC)
3. CoEN NK(TACO BELL -> McDonalds)/Lorenzo Vasquez (KILL//McDonalds)/John-Paul Beattie(No execute)
4. Libby Lewis(ACTRESS//-No action-)/Antonina Wagstaff
5. ICU received feedback (DETECTIVE//Dominos -> KFC)
N4:
1. Elouise Traynor (WITCH//Arbys -> Subway)
2. Leja Osborn (-No action-)
3. CoEN NK(TACO BELL -> Burger King)/Lorenzo Vasquez (KILL//KFC -WITCHED- Subway)
4. Libby Lewis(ACTRESS//-No action-)/Antonina Wagstaff
5. ICU received feedback (DETECTIVE//Subway -> No One)
@Cryptonic
I was ready to believe you had trolled the masons by giving them a night kill they could only use on an immune player.
I'm new to playing with Mike and this has twice he's duped me into "hoping" he might be town due to his extreme incompetence. Never again.
@Mike , I'm fairly sure you're a policy lynch now :P
@Mike
Please hop off my dick. kthnx
I love the troll role in Starbucks, by the way. I was wary of it at first due to the "poisoned food" claim (that turned out to be a complete red herring), but once Starbucks flipped town, I knew instantly what it was.
Unfortunately he wifomed at me having a vest, which made it impossible for me to bait attacks with me being immune already. The gun play was my best bet, but at that point the 4-man scum team already had control of the pink night kill, with the sheriff dead. It was not the best position to be in, and I tried my best, even if I misplayed at every lynch.
I like that the jailor jailed every member of the ICU EXCEPT the actual traitor. lol
If only Subway had not forgotten her night action, I would have never scumread her; it would have forced me to reevaluate my reads and see that there must be purple in the TB/JitB block. We could've gotten a dominos lynch off, or maybe even one of TB/JitB.
It probably wouldn't have mattered because they already had 2 kills with control of Arbys, but maybe if I had drawn one of those kills...
If only.
Can we all agree how dumb we all are for not instant lynching a witch claimer?
I've seen town witch be a thing before and it was a hidden setup, so... meh.
Also I never suspected that this game would be 11 v 4 v 1. Town had no chance, especially with how early purple had control of both kills, ensuring the scum would never hit each other and they'd never accidentally attack the same target.
Glip was my absolute favorite town player. His pkay was very cool to watch.