S-FM 289 Instant Mafia blinkstyle!

So.. I guess MM had another power outtage or an emergency.
Coincidences upon coincidences - SB16 had to go off too.

I guesss let's wait for MM to come back... and coincidentally.. SB16 too I' betting.

@MarshmallowMarshall @Stealthbomber16

Get back here now if ye can.

I am looking at the MM/Mag scum team and i wanna see what Mag has to say on it. so @Magoroth

Meh

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Huey, are you basically saying your first lynch choice rn is Mag, and second is ozy? Seems like you don’t want MM lynched.

I'm bored. I wanna ask 2 game theory questions:

1) Does the games(FM) dynamic dictate that the AFK player will always be the scummiest because everyone else(mafia) are consistently working on their public image?

2) Is this a valid argument?

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You are so lazy, you don't even try to scumhunt. Therefore you are scum yourself.

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Obviously it's an unethical statement if directed towards someone who has 12 hour work shifts. But, in practice, does the argument itself have a merit to it?

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Originally Posted by OzyWho

I'm bored. I wanna ask 2 game theory questions:

1) Does the games(FM) dynamic dictate that the AFK player will always be the scummiest because everyone else(mafia) are consistently working on their public image?

Not Necessarily Generally Citizens Just AFK And Make Minimum Post Counts And Generally Get Pushed For It.. But This Game Feels Different Because Of The Small Number Of PPL. So In This Instance I Believe AFK Should Be Treated As Scum Indicative Considering MM And SB16 Havent Done Much.. MM Just Mirrored Mags Claim. And Judo Vanished Again

2) Is this a valid argument? Obviously it's an unethical statement if directed towards someone who has 12 hour work shifts. But, in practice, does the argument itself have a merit to it?

IDK If Its Valid Or Not.

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Originally Posted by aamirus

Huey, are you basically saying your first lynch choice rn is Mag, and second is ozy? Seems like you don’t want MM lynched.

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Not atall, its Mag then MM but as i said if a train begins to be formed on MM then i will move to vote

OzyWho (1 [L-4]): Stealthbomber16

Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]): OzyWho, aamirus

Magoroth (1 [L-4]): Huey The Long

Stealthbomber16 (1 [L-4]): Marshmallow Marshall

Light_Yagami (1 [L-4]): rumox

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I'm guessing rumox planned to pressure Light for info? I think this game never got to that point where people get pressured for info.

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Originally Posted by OzyWho

OzyWho (1 [L-4]): Stealthbomber16

Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]): OzyWho, aamirus

Magoroth (1 [L-4]): Huey The Long

Stealthbomber16 (1 [L-4]): Marshmallow Marshall

Light_Yagami (1 [L-4]): rumox

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I'm guessing rumox planned to pressure Light for info? I think this game never got to that point where people get pressured for info.

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What Info Ive Given All I Can And All The Thoughts On The Game.. Dont We Still Have Over 24 Hours?

Oh it’s a 72 hour day.

yeah we still have 24 hours of game time, i wonder where Rumox be
Oi @rumox where you at.

hey Ozy did you think we had a 48 hour day?

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Originally Posted by OzyWho

I'm bored. I wanna ask 2 game theory questions:

1) Does the games(FM) dynamic dictate that the AFK player will always be the scummiest because everyone else(mafia) are consistently working on their public image?

2) Is this a valid argument? Obviously it's an unethical statement if directed towards someone who has 12 hour work shifts. But, in practice, does the argument itself have a merit to it?

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1) I think people will always be suspicious of an afk player, simply because they haven’t been given any reason not to suspect them. But in most games people will try to lynch their top active scum reads before going for afks. But when you get to LYLO I think you kind of get stuck. And I figure the average person would rather lose to an active player than to an afk player so you end up being biased towards the afk

2) I don’t think it’s valid. I think it’s fair to distrust such a person and basically hold them as a null read, but I don’t think it should make them into a scum read.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

And since I'm the lead wagon : I hardclaim Sheriff with a N0 check on @Efekannn02 .

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Lmao you are so scum


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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

hey Ozy did you think we had a 48 hour day?

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No. But from my point of view - I have only 2 choices whom to vote: Mag or MM. You can probably see why that choice isn't really a choice. In what world would I choose to vote Mag over mm in this game state?

Yeah, you see. Game has given me a no choice decision to make. Now I can only wait for everyone else to make theirs. We all have our decisions to make. My options are just none existent, unless I want to consider MM to be more townie than Mag.. yeah right lol.

Yea there’s not much to do right now, but he does have a day to read the game and come up with some kind of defense.

-vote MarshmallowMarshall

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Whatever. Consider my vote on MM

-unvote

Tbh all this did was confirm rumox.
So rumox isn’t getting lynched.

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Originally Posted by Magoroth

Tbh all this did was confirm rumox.
So rumox isn’t getting lynched.

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Just don't mention that to @Efekannn02

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

Well in my head it wasnt the original plan for them. but given how much MM has been pushed they have pulled a risky manoeuvre. I expect when Mag gets back to claim that you are the false Sheriff.
From a host standpoint if we have 2 sheriffs they would have the same citizen for balance purposes i think. Its a bit angleshooty and host meta but like i think it makes the most sense.

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I actually agree with this.

I just cant see how both Mag and Ozy are sheriffs with different people in a balanced game. Which means either Mag and MM are scum buddies or Ozy and then either Aamirus or light are scum.

You really don’t want to vote MM do you

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Originally Posted by Magoroth

You really don’t want to vote MM do you

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I dont wanna mislynch and lose us the game is all im saying. I want MM to speak some more and i want SB16 to speak some more too. Also Rumox.

I dont want us to lymch when we have 24 hours of thicc sexy discussion still

That’s fair. Well in that case I’ll best be off. See y’all tomorrow


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Something I’d like to add before I leave is, Meta-wise I would say Kira is probably town here now that I think about it. He’s not roleplayed at all which he usually does as scum


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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

I dont wanna mislynch and lose us the game is all im saying. I want MM to speak some more and i want SB16 to speak some more too. Also Rumox.

I dont want us to lymch when we have 24 hours of thicc sexy discussion still

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lol I can't even imagine how the game situation must feel like from your point of view. Anyone could be Mafia from your position. xD

Nvm I’m being retarded, Huey and Mm aren’t ever a team and in fact I think Huey could only be scum with Ozy. My gut tells me Huey isn’t scum with Ozy either so it’s probably indeed aamirus-Ozy or SB-Mm
i feel like MM and Sb16 aren’t defending themselves properly which is usually scum indicative as town would always get angry at being the mislynch and in fact stealth seemed to be angrier at Ozy for saying he was griefing.. I ebelieve he’s concealing scum anger

I think aamirus would be more active as scum? Actually idk but I don’t see any attempts at looking towny from her which I guess is good?

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Originally Posted by Magoroth

Something I’d like to add before I leave is, Meta-wise I would say Kira is probably town here now that I think about it. He’s not roleplayed at all which he usually does as scum


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Just Throwing It Out There Thats Not Indicative Of Me Being Town Or Scum.. Ive Role Played In Both Scenarios.. As Town And As Scum.. So, Me Not Role-Playing In This Game Is Me Realizing We Aint Got Time To Dick Around.. And We Need To Be On Point So We Dont Fuck This Up..

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Originally Posted by OzyWho

lol I can't even imagine how the game situation must feel like from your point of view. Anyone could be Mafia from your position. xD

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Rumox is town i just wanna see what he has to say about everything. Rumox my buddy my pal please speak.

Yeah rumox can’t be scum.


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I believe Mm should already have claimed his n0 check at the beginning of the day


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I'm here. I am from Australia and it's 8am so I have been asleep.

MM said in previous Instant Mafia that claiming early is in towns best interest yet he didn't when he had the chance to. Even after there was already two TPR claims, and looking at this game from a balance pov where usually 2 mafia means there is 2 TPR so from his pov there was an outted mafia. But at the same time I agree with having 2 sheriffs have different checks would put the game in a pretty imbalanced game state if there were no TPR CC's (50% chance to yolo lynch a mafia) so I have some reservations about MM, and poe means Ozy is mafia with most likely Aamirus. I don't think Mafia would yolo fake claim Sheriff onto a townie when there is another TPR lurking so Mag is clear for me.

Alright well, let's see how this looks for me:

Huey is obviously town, a Mafia would just join any Lynch train.
Rumox, aamirus and myself are 100% confirmed, though only from my and aamirus point of view.

4 players left - and Kira is a townread for me all of the game, past like first 2 or 3 hours after SoD.

SB16 is my top scumread all game.

So there is 5 townies and 1 mafia whom I would bet my life on.

What to do with the last 2? Is MM or Mag the SB's scum mate? EVERYTHING points towards both - mm being scum mate of SB16, and Mag being enemy a.k.a townie.

I also town leaned Mag for a significant portion of the game.


What options are there for me? Believe that 3 sheriff's are possible AND that 2 of them got the same citizen confirmation (is that even possible?), and thereby voting SB16 instead of MM? I could do that np, but gtfo lol - there's 3 sheriff claims. Obviously not gonna consider lynching any of the other 5 players.

How the fuck does everything point to both of us being SB16’s scummates LOL


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It doesn’t point to shit, idk where you came up with that


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If anyone is SB16’s scummate its MM. given how hard you’re pushing SB16 you are in no way aligned. I would never accuse my scum partner of griefing.


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Originally Posted by rumox

I'm here. I am from Australia and it's 8am so I have been asleep.

MM said in previous Instant Mafia that claiming early is in towns best interest yet he didn't when he had the chance to. Even after there was already two TPR claims, and looking at this game from a balance pov where usually 2 mafia means there is 2 TPR so from his pov there was an outted mafia. But at the same time I agree with having 2 sheriffs have different checks would put the game in a pretty imbalanced game state if there were no TPR CC's (50% chance to yolo lynch a mafia) so I have some reservations about MM, and poe means Ozy is mafia with most likely Aamirus. I don't think Mafia would yolo fake claim Sheriff onto a townie when there is another TPR lurking so Mag is clear for me.

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I would need MM to confirm this because im just speculating but i think MM would of CC'd earlier if he could of. Though take that with a grain of salt.
I cant see 2 Sheriffs with different bois being a possibility and if it is i am gonna reee at Blink not cause of anger but out of support for making the game insane. I feel like because your slot was efe its a lot more likely MM and Mag could of been on a scum team together. I think Ozy is town but until the other bois can actually speak a bit. @Marshmallow Marshall and @Stealthbomber16 idk man.

If tomos we dont have any big push then i think pushing MM is a good shout but i need to see who says what.

So yeah, my money is on you or aamirus or MM and Sb16. I don’t believe there’s 3 sheriffs so we should pick between MM and Ozy


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Originally Posted by OzyWho

Alright well, let's see how this looks for me:

Huey is obviously town, a Mafia would just join any Lynch train.
Rumox, aamirus and myself are 100% confirmed, though only from my and aamirus point of view.

4 players left - and Kira is a townread for me all of the game, past like first 2 or 3 hours after SoD.

SB16 is my top scumread all game.

So there is 5 townies and 1 mafia whom I would bet my life on.

What to do with the last 2? Is MM or Mag the SB's scum mate? EVERYTHING points towards both - mm being scum mate of SB16, and Mag being enemy a.k.a townie.

I also town leaned Mag for a significant portion of the game.


What options are there for me? Believe that 3 sheriff's are possible AND that 2 of them got the same citizen confirmation (is that even possible?), and thereby voting SB16 instead of MM? I could do that np, but gtfo lol - there's 3 sheriff claims. Obviously not gonna consider lynching any of the other 5 players.

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Why cant their be 1 sheriff, you, and Mag and MM being a scum team who chose efe as citizen because they know its likely efe would not have an important role?

Tbh I think me getting Efe as a green check was 100% not a coincidence and that blink gave me this role just to see what I would do with it


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100% we should vote Mag, MM or Ozy at the end of this though.

@blinkskater Hypothetical Question If 2 Sheriffs Were In The Game Would They Both Have RNG Findings Out Of The Citizen Pool?


Theres An Easy Way To Answer This Question..

I think its either of them tbh, MMs claim i thought initially to be a CC against mine, but then that’s not really how it works in this setup.

I still think SB16/Mm are scummier than Ozy/aamirus but there’s a number of things Ozy and aamirus have said that are 100% not true and scum indicative, firstly they stated that Scum would act townie in this game, if by townie you mean they wouldn’t try to mislynch town? It’s not true and that’s not how it works, you can’t just choose to act towny in such a game if you’re scum, you’re scum and therefore aren’t town. I think this could be a scum teams way of digging themselves in so that anyone could be up for grabs.


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Yeah I am down for MM to be lynched. He did have time to claim before his power outage. There was 3 pages worth of discussion before he started posting so I don't believe he missed the two TPR claims and thought nothing of it. Two sheriff claims and one of them sharing his target? That is totally something I would jump on to discuss if I was in his shoes as a Sheriff lol. Too weird

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Yeah I am down for MM to be lynched. He did have time to claim before his power outage. There was 3 pages worth of discussion before he started posting so I don't believe he missed the two TPR claims and thought nothing of it. Two sheriff claims and one of them sharing his target? That is totally something I would jump on to discuss if I was in his shoes as a Sheriff lol. Too weird

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True tbh


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I want MM back to at least defend himself, if he is scum then i dont think he has played well atall and maybe thats due to external factors but it would be kinda sad tbh

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

100% we should vote Mag, MM or Ozy at the end of this though.

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OHHH
Now I finally understand how MM, as Mafia, doing that sheriff claim made his win probability go up LUL

Going from people wanting to lynch him or SB (and mag for some) to only a 1 out of 3 probability town lynch a Mafia. That's either 66% or 33% win chance increase. Pretty neat by MM :thinking:


Also, rumox is clearly biased towards me because of how I questioned him. But whatever.

It's logical poe bruh don't feel special because you ain't lol