Hey Sry Guys For Taking Your Time Here But What Is Your Ethically/Morally Opinion On:
Having a Judge lynch the Arsonist and then suiciding in a 1 vs 1 + 1
Apologizing because the other Party was angry but not apologizing over your mistakes
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Hey Sry Guys For Taking Your Time Here But What Is Your Ethically/Morally Opinion On:
Having a Judge lynch the Arsonist and then suiciding in a 1 vs 1 + 1
Apologizing because the other Party was angry but not apologizing over your mistakes
Well, for example - the Mafia and Neutral Evils (witch/judge/auditor) - they fuck each other up, on purpose, all the time. The only difference with your scenario is that, instead of Mafia, you have Neutral Killer.
So, at the very least, it is nothing rare.
This type of topic has been discussed many times. And as far as I remember - the conclusion was always the same:
Neutrals have no team therefore they can do whatever they want.
None of this says anything about "Morality" though. Not sure what to think about it's Morality. I never thought about Morality in games, except when money is a contributing factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzyWho
He’s talking about a Judge lynching an Arsonist, then suiciding to give the town (presumably the third team) the win. I think that’s where he was trying to go with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzyWho
That senario is a clear cut play against their wincon. Would be slammed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
yeah thats what im trying to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I Would Want To Report That Incident LaterQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperJack
But many people mean that it was morally right to kill a fellow neutral(his opinions dont matter) and then suicide to give the town win
they also say the decision of the judge doesnt matter since he is a solo team but what about the arsonist?
the arsonist was so mad that he even made a thread over it here
its ok for a judge to kill the arsonist and win solo but its not ok to suicide after that!
anyone agreeing with me? please tell me your comments on that
Yeah And Saying Just Knowing I Had The Victory Is Enough For Me Is What Was Stated At The End Of The Game By Distorted. I Was In That Game. I Remember.
Should Have Played To His Roles Victory Condition Not Throw The Game Ta Town That Day.
Yeah! And Its Ok To Sacrifice Your Win For The Others But Its Not Ok To Sacrifice The Win Of Others To Make A Third Party Win!Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
I dont see anything wrong with it really.....i mean, Mafia should be played to just have fun, you shouldnt be too serious about it........thats why i play mafia because it relaxes me and i dont have to try too hard to win......i like prefering fun roles such as survivor, and executioner, because you get to be pretty much night immune. I hate dying early. So, oh and another one of my favorite roles is judge because you get to cause all sorts of chaos haha.
Normies are triggered by your comment, because they can't play mafia just for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rachyl
Cue for interesting Morality discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rachyl
At the end of the day, you have to think about what the rules in the game say and not what you want to do. Clearly, the Judge had no interest in winning the game and wanted to help the town win instead. While the Judge cannot hurt anyone else in their own actions, they are costing themselves the win by suiciding and giving the town a win that they did not earn. Had the Judge decided he did not want to win, then he probably shouldn’t be playing mafia if you’re going to give away wins because you don’t care.
Eh, I was the judge so I will chime in on this.
1v1v1 with arsonist (efe) me (judge) and town (who was apparently mayor, never revealed)
I never courted or talked at night, so I was surfing on a survivor claim. My goal was to solo win with never once calling court (complete surprise win screen). Town would have thought they won, then Judge wins would come instead =P
However, After guiltying the Arsonist, the mayor started talking about how happy he was to finally get incognito. Well, since I was an evil role left another night happened. During the night chat I stated that all I had to do was AFK and I won, and that was enough knowing I took that game. I didn't need the win screen or points that followed, so suicided to give the Mayor his incognito.
I didn't need the "win screen" to know the game was won. so figured I would let people who would benefit more from it get the point/roles bonus. I still consider that game won though.
I actually do this quite frequently as a neutral, win the game solo but suicide to give away the win screen. I find it boosts the spirits in the games due to the surprise randomness to it - usually always ends in laughs. Hell, doomed towns in a 1v1v1 with maf, town, SK feel defeated and the game is done. Usually town sides with an SK. When I am SK in those scenarios I either kill the last town and suicide (if there is a neutral left to give them solo win or if a jester or exe has won) or just suicide and let town have it. I already won, just giving away the win screen =P Plus, people get to see new win screens which drive them to start trying to get solo wins and looking into the games achievements.
on a side note, I also like the meta it adds to games. If town has to be skeptical of neutral benigns siding with them or mafia, why shouldent Mafia have to be more skeptical of neutral evils? =) Makes for some fun twists!
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Originally Posted by Distorted
Personally, I never betray any factions I side with. For example, I sometimes (admittedly, not always) commit suicide when my chosen factions loses.
I always side with town as Survivor/Executioner/Amnesiac. Whenever I see people lynching Survivors just because, I want to cringe.
And I always side with the evils (usually the Mafia) as Neutral Evil or Jester.
If I'm neutral, I will always go for a solo win, whenever that option is affordable. I will always have mafia/killings needing me until the last day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoroth
And If I'm mafia/killing I will always try to make every faction except mine to lose. I will kill survivors/amnesiacs, witch/judge, and lynch exe if he has to survive. It gives me a sense of min-max'ing in mafia.