S-FM 276 Spirits IIb

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Originally Posted by Voss

Lol what majority of people are calling you inactive scum. You were just a good vote out yesterday.

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How was that a good lynch target? You gain ZERO information by lynching somebody that nobody has interacted with yet because they just subbed in. No, that was not a good lynch target at all. Now I understand that if people didn’t want to lynch MM then it’s fine to pick another target. But this target was a pointless lynch so I think whoever started the train on naz is prolly scum

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Originally Posted by Voss

Yeah definitely the overreaction, but I'd like to stay honed in on Noctiz and aamirus here. Naz seems good for tomorrow

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You’re honed in and ignoring the rest of the lobby because mm said me and Noctiz aren’t on a scum team together? I’m not following this logic

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Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02

-vote naz

where were you last night between midnight and 2am??? ANSWER!!! >=O

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Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

-vote Naz

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

Why the move to vote Naz? we only have 30 mins left which means it seems we wont lynch somebody.

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Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

I Moved To Naz Because I Suspect That Slot As Scum.. And Even Asked For PPLs Opinions On Aivions Slot Before/While The Replacements Were Happening..

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

I haven't seen any Naz posts, but I'm voting her simply because that means she's a low psoter + (and especially) for self-preservation.

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

ill sheep onto Naz as it seems we are moving that way given he is a low poster

-vote naz

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Originally Posted by Voss

-vote naz

fuck majority

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Originally Posted by aamirus

How was that a good lynch target? You gain ZERO information by lynching somebody that nobody has interacted with yet because they just subbed in. No, that was not a good lynch target at all. Now I understand that if people didn’t want to lynch MM then it’s fine to pick another target. But this target was a pointless lynch so I think whoever started the train on naz is prolly scum

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Hmm. Looking back I see what looks like a troll vote from blinkstorted and then Yagami randomly puts his vote there which I guess made naz the person with highest votes after MM? So then once mm claimed town power everyone sheeped over to naz. I still think that was a terrible lynch choice all things considered (player literally just subbed in and has zero interactions), but I guess I can see how there simply weren’t enough people online to do anything else in the face of the majority lynch.

-vote Healta

I want to hear some original thoughts/reads from you instead of sheeping a vague last will and then disappearing

Please note that NoctiZ's slot is currently slated for replacement. This most likely means that Scvmurderer will be given the slot.

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Originally Posted by aamirus

There’s a problem with your reasoning on naz.... half the game has made less posts than the host so far. If you ignore all of the inactive players you’re ignoring half the lobby! They need to be pushed to talk, not allowed to just hide in the shadows. Saying you won’t push them until the end of the day is giving them a ridiculously generous free pass

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Oh i agree and we should of course pressure the other inactives who have just been subbed him. @NightmareFrIEND7 and i would like to here more from Voss and Damus and Naz.

I do agree that Healta should attempt to come up with his own theories and not attach himself (herself?) to other people however if i am not mistaken they are very new and i can attest that when i was very new to Mafia i did the same because i was still developing my general skills.

I do disagree with your assertion that naz was not a good town lynch though, it could of been naz, it could of been Nightmare both were inactive slots and while they just subbed in it is in my belief that a day 1 lynch is a good thing and that when we have no real indication of scum we should try and remove a inactive town because they dont help the overall town. Now yesterday i did think Zerg was potentially a better lynch, but i have discussed that situation in another post .

Finally i dont like the, what seems like, complete dismissal of MMs last will. Now i do understand that when you are mentioned and labeled down as potential scum from a TPR it doesnt look good on you, but really the dismissal of it makes me feel like you wanna just brush it aside in an attempt to remove the spotlight from yourself.

As i said yesterday i will be making some more indepth posts later on.

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

Finally i dont like the, what seems like, complete dismissal of MMs last will. Now i do understand that when you are mentioned and labeled down as potential scum from a TPR it doesnt look good on you, but really the dismissal of it makes me feel like you wanna just brush it aside in an attempt to remove the spotlight from yourself.

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Originally Posted by NoctiZ

You're projecting. I never outright said MM is scum :)

Y'all don't seem to realize but all I did was put my vote on MM to force some talk about why he felt the need to TPR hunt, in this case specifically regarding Stealth. Stealth is doing his own kind of gambit by RPing the way he is where he may or may not be crumbing hints. Talking about it is, you know, necessary in a way but it's also contraproductive to whatever he himself is trying to do. What we can discuss is whether we think Stealth is scummy or not by playing the way he is, whatever. MMs big first post on Stealth however felt really forced to me. Not genuine in his attempt to try and contribute to town winning, all he cared about in my opinion was establishing his position as someone who's trying to make himself seem like a valued player.

Now, I really didn't wanna do this but some people really wanna hear details on why or how I agree with the conclusions of that post themselves. I'll go through it:


True, but not what'll happen. In the case that Stealth is Hunter, he might still not be protected since there is no real way to confirm him and he'd have to gather trust first to make someone heal him. At the very least we'd have to wait until he decides to shoot someone and even then, how can we be sure that he is the Hunter that took the shot and not someone else lying? Mag already said we won't know details of who killed who. That means claiming Hunter as Hunter is a huge gambit and I don't ever see that happening.


That is very true, but you're already discussing every other point, making your own point quite moot.


Only if he'd actually insist on the Hunter claim in the case of a counter claim. Which, firstly I don't think we will get a counter claim any time soon and secondly, Stealth wouldn't insist on being Hunter in case he actually lied about it, no matter if he's a faking town Citizen or scum.


Well I'm glad you can say that so confidently this early into this game.



You're really not leaving a lot of WIFOM open after a post like that and discussing night actions and trying to influence them like that is also really scummy. This is nearly open wolfing in my eyes and I'll leave it up to the reader to decide if it's too obvious to be scummy or if it's a misguided town member.


All in all, it strikes me as a scummy post. Low-effort, no genuine conclusions IMO and very disruptive to town's success. Now, do I think MM is scum? I don't know. Apart from this he has been pretty active which is NAI but he created more discussion that way I guess. Is that enough to say he's not scum however? The resulting discussions from his activity haven't been very productive to further our knowledge or help us trying to figure out the game. I wouldn't feel bad about a MM lynch but I also see one or two other possibilities today, especially cause I know that in the current state of the game, active D1 players are very unlikely to get lynched tbh.

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Originally Posted by aamirus

In comparison, this post gives great content that aligns with everything I’ve been saying about MM. oddly distorted usually makes the better posts and noctiz likes to be sarcastic like me.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Noctiz - Aamirus is likely not SvS, even though I don't any of them.

Also fuck off with the votes on me. Seriously, I'm being voted up for making my mind based on theory, and then people disagreeing with my theory. DISGAREEING WITH SOMEONE'S THEORY IS NOT A REASON TO LYNCH THEM.

About Aamirus's post about supecting people you don't like, I like pretty much everyone here, and don't think there's much hate from anyone to anyone in this game, so ? ? ? ? ?

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MM's last will: Night 1 : Protecting Damus_Graves. Don't forget : Aamirus - Noctiz is not Spirit - Spirit, but there's probably AT LEAST one scum between then (potential spirit-virus combo).

This is what MM's last will is based on. You can clearly see that in the post I've quoted. It's not based on anything else (otherwise he'd have put more evidence into the last will). If you want to go back and find something else it's based on, be my guest. Otherwise you are pushing a non-lead as if it's a real lead. By saying "fuck off with the votes on me", I think it's obvious that his extra little line about a possible spirit-virus combo is just an OMGUS for voting him. If you actually disagree with that, feel free to provide some reasoning. Otherwise give another reason why I should be voted up

Hello guys, it's my first time playing a Forum Mafia but by reading the setup and role card I think I get a idea on what to do.

Is this game literally Werewolf or are there some differences?

Ok so before I look at the stuff that's been posted today, I wanna make mention of 4 things:

1. It really sucks that MM died, not just because he's the doctor, but because he was my strongest townread. Even before his hardclaim of TPR, I think he was the strongest town player, pushing hard to get information and forming reads that could inform a d1 lynch. I don't really have another super strong townread at this point in time, just leans that could easily shift. His death is also interesting to me, since I figured a doc might target him just for the hardclaim so he can make it to d2. I see 2 possibilities here about his death:
a. either no doc targeted him and scum got an easy kill on a hardclaim tpr (may indicate that there aren't other docs in the game)
b. a doc targeted him and scum used their anti-doc kill

2. I still distrust the NoctiZ slot. Something about his posts just rubs me the wrong way, especially his first response to MM's large post on Steath's claim. I think just outright calling it bs without a reasonable explanation for another half of the day indicates that he was trying to discredit MM, which seems scummy to me. I want to keep a close eye on this slot.

3. I found the sheep onto naz pretty interesting, since I'm pretty sure Blinkstorted just popped a troll vote onto naz for irl stuff. Even though most of those votes were shifted from MM after his hardclaim, I don't understand why they moved to naz, since that slot was afk for the whole game and we didn't have any information on it. I feel like that sheep in particular makes no real sense to me. Idk, someone should probably explain this sheep to me at some point.

4. I don't like how few posts Blinkstorted really had yesterday. They're both really strong players, and even though they might have been really busy, which is understandable, I think that together as an archon account they should have been posting more and having more influence on the game. It seems to me like they might be playing as passive scum, and for this reason, they get my vote.

-vote Blinkstorteddd02

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Originally Posted by aamirus

Hmm. Looking back I see what looks like a troll vote from blinkstorted and then Yagami randomly puts his vote there which I guess made naz the person with highest votes after MM? So then once mm claimed town power everyone sheeped over to naz. I still think that was a terrible lynch choice all things considered (player literally just subbed in and has zero interactions), but I guess I can see how there simply weren’t enough people online to do anything else in the face of the majority lynch.

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Well I guess this answers my question about the naz sheep

i am pretty sure this guy killed mm tho

-vote Blinkstorteddd02

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Originally Posted by Huey The Long

Oh i agree and we should of course pressure the other inactives who have just been subbed him. @NightmareFrIEND7 and i would like to here more from Voss and Damus and Naz.

I do agree that Healta should attempt to come up with his own theories and not attach himself (herself?) to other people however if i am not mistaken they are very new and i can attest that when i was very new to Mafia i did the same because i was still developing my general skills.

I do disagree with your assertion that naz was not a good town lynch though, it could of been naz, it could of been Nightmare both were inactive slots and while they just subbed in it is in my belief that a day 1 lynch is a good thing and that when we have no real indication of scum we should try and remove a inactive town because they dont help the overall town. Now yesterday i did think Zerg was potentially a better lynch, but i have discussed that situation in another post .

Finally i dont like the, what seems like, complete dismissal of MMs last will. Now i do understand that when you are mentioned and labeled down as potential scum from a TPR it doesnt look good on you, but really the dismissal of it makes me feel like you wanna just brush it aside in an attempt to remove the spotlight from yourself.

As i said yesterday i will be making some more indepth posts later on.

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Is this a scumslip? NightmareFrIEND7 hasn't posted yet and you would both like to hear more from those players? Wolfchat?

This might not be indicative of anything but that wording makes me see you as more of a scumlean.

I disagree with the idea that Blinkstorted is playing passive more so in the fact I believe they are playing in the secondary.
Mmmm. I don’t think Aamirus is a good Lynch target.
[vote]Voss[/voss] open wolf possibilities and strange focus on Aamirus vs NoctiZ tunnel vision.
Secondary vote placement would be on Blinkstorted.

-vote Voss

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Originally Posted by NightmareFrIEND7

Hello guys, it's my first time playing a Forum Mafia but by reading the setup and role card I think I get a idea on what to do.

Is this game literally Werewolf or are there some differences?

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Welcome to the game! I'm pretty new too, and I've never played Werewolf irl, but basically as far as I know most of the information comes from posts that happen during the day phase where we all interact with each other and try to read other players as either scum or town. You were subbed in, and the person who had your slot before was really inactive, so I'm interested in what you have to say. I recommend that you scroll back to the earlier posts and review what happened in day 1 so you can give us some of your opinions on players.

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Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

I disagree with the idea that Blinkstorted is playing passive more so in the fact I believe they are playing in the secondary.
Mmmm. I don’t think Aamirus is a good Lynch target.
[vote]Voss[/voss] open wolf possibilities and strange focus on Aamirus vs NoctiZ tunnel vision.
Secondary vote placement would be on Blinkstorted.

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What do you mean by in the secondary?

my lw to mag was that i thought MM was scum and also yagami because he is contradicting himself, evidence in the form of quotes to come soon(tm) i need to get a bit of work done firsr

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Originally Posted by ZergSoupYum

Welcome to the game! I'm pretty new too, and I've never played Werewolf irl, but basically as far as I know most of the information comes from posts that happen during the day phase where we all interact with each other and try to read other players as either scum or town. You were subbed in, and the person who had your slot before was really inactive, so I'm interested in what you have to say. I recommend that you scroll back to the earlier posts and review what happened in day 1 so you can give us some of your opinions on players.

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I already did that and understood only the meaning of life for a fish.

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Originally Posted by ZergSoupYum

Is this a scumslip? NightmareFrIEND7 hasn't posted yet and you would both like to hear more from those players? Wolfchat?

This might not be indicative of anything but that wording makes me see you as more of a scumlean.

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That is worded very badly so i can see why you come to such a conclusion. What i mean is 'Other inactives and those just subbed should be pressured' i then listed them and tagged Nightmare because he hasn't posted a tall yet.

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Originally Posted by ZergSoupYum

Ok so before I look at the stuff that's been posted today, I wanna make mention of 4 things:

1. It really sucks that MM died, not just because he's the doctor, but because he was my strongest townread. Even before his hardclaim of TPR, I think he was the strongest town player, pushing hard to get information and forming reads that could inform a d1 lynch. I don't really have another super strong townread at this point in time, just leans that could easily shift. His death is also interesting to me, since I figured a doc might target him just for the hardclaim so he can make it to d2. I see 2 possibilities here about his death:
a. either no doc targeted him and scum got an easy kill on a hardclaim tpr (may indicate that there aren't other docs in the game)
b. a doc targeted him and scum used their anti-doc kill

2. I still distrust the NoctiZ slot. Something about his posts just rubs me the wrong way, especially his first response to MM's large post on Steath's claim. I think just outright calling it bs without a reasonable explanation for another half of the day indicates that he was trying to discredit MM, which seems scummy to me. I want to keep a close eye on this slot.

3. I found the sheep onto naz pretty interesting, since I'm pretty sure Blinkstorted just popped a troll vote onto naz for irl stuff. Even though most of those votes were shifted from MM after his hardclaim, I don't understand why they moved to naz, since that slot was afk for the whole game and we didn't have any information on it. I feel like that sheep in particular makes no real sense to me. Idk, someone should probably explain this sheep to me at some point.

4. I don't like how few posts Blinkstorted really had yesterday. They're both really strong players, and even though they might have been really busy, which is understandable, I think that together as an archon account they should have been posting more and having more influence on the game. It seems to me like they might be playing as passive scum, and for this reason, they get my vote.

-vote Blinkstorteddd02

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To your first point i dont think the Doc would of targeted him, he asked for the doc to target him, now if their is another doc in the game then they could of potentially been poisoned if they protected MM, i think it was a case of the Wolves saw MM claimed a TPR, they took the risk that no doc would be on him due to the threat of the virus and attacked him.

I do agree with your second point especially on the NoctiZ slot and that we should pressure that slot, especially so when the new person to replace noctiz.

Your reasoning for Blink is interesting, looking back they did not have that many posts and especially not that many posts with actual content, now that may be a day one thing and a being busy thing but it does leave a lot wanting from Blink so seeing pressure pushed onto them is not a bad shout.

On my own side i still dont see why Yagami is pushing on Naz rn, really i dont know how to feel about Yagami, they seem to not actually contribute much to the discussion, and just follow along which i dont like generally. Its the same with healtea which Aamirus brought up although as i said that may just be a new player thing.