S-FM Condorcet Cop9er [GAME]

Forgot I was invisible to be honest, I have been for awhile. Turning it off for this FM game

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

You misunderstand, I believe he is town but I don't necessarily believe he is sheriff. As I said, there's a 2/3 chance he's town, only 50% chance of that is him being sheriff. To be honest, I think it's much more likely that he's shielding sheriff.

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Fair.

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Originally Posted by rumox

Not putting yourself at the top is almost like a self admission to being scum to me too

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Still this point still stands and I think it's a scum slip. Why wouldn't you put yourself at the top of your list?

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Originally Posted by rumox

Why wouldn't you put yourself at the top of your list?

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The list isn't about me, I'd take myself out of it completely if that were acceptable. The point I was trying to make with my list was that MM is my strongest townread. Also, if putting him there pulls him farther away from the scum side of things then even better.

Ehhhhh. Not putting yourself at #1 is a defeatist mentality and it's a common misplay by scum. Unless day 1 turns eventful I'm going to keep you as my lynch priority for now. Still a lot of null people in the middle of my list that can swing either way.

I know you put yourself as #2 but still, being a Citizen you knowyou are town. With MM there is always an uncertainty

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Originally Posted by rumox

Ehhhhh. Not putting yourself at #1 is a defeatist mentality and it's a common misplay by scum. Unless day 1 turns eventful I'm going to keep you as my lynch priority for now. Still a lot of null people in the middle of my list that can swing either way.

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Okay, sure. I won't lie this feels like an OMGBUS to me but I'm not going to linger on this. Hopefully some other people come in and start talking soon.

Wait... how did I miss Blinkskater calling MM scum? I need to rearrange my list anyway.

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,Blinkskater,rumox,Dutes,Lenneth,naz,Efek annn02,MarshmallowMarshall,Ratatoskr,

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

Thank you for this. Sorry I didn't see it as soon as I popped in I was just excited to kill Distorted.





That does seem to be the only 3 possibilities, spelling them out is pretty useful. +townpoints.
The fact that you're against it. -townpoints



The way I see it, there's a 2/3 chance he's town. Lenneth might be. Either way, I'm going to go ahead and put MM in my strong town reads list, and Rumox in null to null-scum.

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted, Rumox

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I think Rumox is town, but it's based on meta. But I indeed don't like the fact that he doesn't like my post: only a scum would be disappointed of this kind of confusion.

I'll leave my reason for it for another day, or my will.

Never mind wills aren't enabled

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Originally Posted by rumox

Fair.



Still this point still stands and I think it's a scum slip. Why wouldn't you put yourself at the top of your list?

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Because he would vote for himself?????

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Originally Posted by rumox

Ehhhhh. Not putting yourself at #1 is a defeatist mentality and it's a common misplay by scum. Unless day 1 turns eventful I'm going to keep you as my lynch priority for now. Still a lot of null people in the middle of my list that can swing either way.

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Your lynch priority at post #54? REALLY? Tsk tsk tsk...

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

Wait... how did I miss Blinkskater calling MM scum? I need to rearrange my list anyway.

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,Blinkskater,rumox,Dutes,Lenneth,naz,Efek annn02,MarshmallowMarshall,Ratatoskr,

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Oh yeah btw, Distorted was drunk in the discord soooo... I expect him more today (which will be tomorrow for me). Now I'm going to bed, it's literally early :P see you today!

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Because he would vote for himself?????

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Yes you vote yourself. You vote the entire player pool to avoid bad rng crap happening. If you are a Town you put yourself as your top Town read because you know you are Town and want to be in the best potential spot in the consensus, or at least the best spot you can put yourself in. Not voting yourself or not putting yourself at #1 is a very strange thing to do since Rata knows he is theoretically town. I feel very comfortable having him as my lynch priority right now because of this.

Can everyone please tell me they understand how the lynch mechanic works?

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Originally Posted by rumox

Yes you vote yourself. You vote the entire player pool to avoid bad rng crap happening. If you are a Town you put yourself as your top Town read because you know you are Town and want to be in the best potential spot in the consensus, or at least the best spot you can put yourself in. Not voting yourself or not putting yourself at #1 is a very strange thing to do since Rata knows he is theoretically town. I feel very comfortable having him as my lynch priority right now because of this.

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Not voting an entire player pool or not voting yourself as #1*****

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Originally Posted by blinkskater

Imo town sheriff would claim right away asap, MM knows this

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ayyyyy that is the good plan. info = pro town. SO with my bottle of communism and me I hardclaim claim sheriff. HOWEVER, the confirmed town I am not revealing yet.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Oh yeah btw, Distorted was drunk in the discord soooo... I expect him more today (which will be tomorrow for me). Now I'm going to bed, it's literally early :P see you today!

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no u

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Originally Posted by rumox

Can everyone please tell me they understand how the lynch mechanic works?

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something about fish'n'chips i really hope. that honestly sounds incredible right now.


ANWYAS, with that said we shall get to this tomorrow. I expect doc to stay on me though. gives us at least a day or 2.

I am really in favor of randoming someone silent day 1.

sad...im out of bacon wtf. @Dutes u never answered; do you have wild bacon where u live?

I know you didn't ask me, but we have wild hogs here and you don't even need a license to shoot them. In fact, the state encourages shooting every wild hog you come across.

I really need to kill something. Like a deer or a pig. Would keep my freezer stocked for a good minute.

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

I know you didn't ask me, but we have wild hogs here and you don't even need a license to shoot them. In fact, the state encourages shooting every wild hog you come across.

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omw

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

I really need to kill something. Like a deer or a pig. Would keep my freezer stocked for a good minute.

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most sensible thing said all game.

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Originally Posted by Distorted

sad...im out of bacon wtf. @Dutes u never answered; do you have wild bacon where u live?

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You never asked.

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Originally Posted by blinkskater

Why is the voting different i can barley remember how to vote the other way

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blink did u see this link voss posted in the opening post of the game: https://narrator.systeminplace.net/condorcet.html

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Originally Posted by rumox

Acting scummy is 1 thing but hard claiming the only TPR in the opening posts is different and just tilts the game permanently. Going to let it play out for now but not a fan of it atm

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this is how i feel about mm's dumb post (ya i think its dumb that you did that immediately lol)

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Tilting the game permanently is my meta though :) why aren't you a fan of it? Because you're not a fan of me? Let's not start this.

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you're the one starting things, ya monkey. we just think that's a bad play for something to end up on the first page lol, like maybe we could have all agreed to have sheriff come out? and seen how people acted first? now u die tonight and we have no more sheriff. gg.



also no comment's on distorted's counter claim to sheriff? lol.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

The strategy is that Sheriff hardclaims now. And I HARDCLAIM SHERIFF. LENNETH IS CONFIRMED TOWN!

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Thanks buddy scum !
I am new, I don't play scum usualy, that mean I have to claim shitizen right now? !!!!!!!!!

XoXo :D

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Originally Posted by rumox

1. He is Mafia. Lenneth doesn't necessarily have to be. If MM was Mafia he could pick literally anyone and say they are Town and know he will be correct. Gives a sense of legitimacy if Lenneth is to ever die
2. He is Citizen. Classic shielding of the real Sheriff. Taking a chance on Lenneth being Town. This is pretty yolo because if his random guess is actually Mafia, they know he is NOT sheriff. This would be very messy.
3. He is Sheriff. Another yolo play. Do Mafia believe it? Or do they think he is doing a #2. Doing it day 1 is pretty shitty. I was going to say in my first post Sheriff should just reveal come day 2 or 3 with his results.

Logically looking at it, not a fan of this personally.

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Last game, he claimed Spy as a solo scum, so yeah ! Don't trust him ! (obviously :D)

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Originally Posted by rumox

Do a full cvote and put MM and Lenneth at the top. An incomplete vote hurts town a lot, especially if you don't put the Sheriff claim and his night 0 investigative target (Lenneth).

I'd also like to point out I am against his strategy, not the person. I put him and Lenneth in the top of my cvote list to signify this, below myself because I know without doubt I am a Citizen.

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Funny, I didn't say anything and I am already at the top of your scum list ! I know he doesn't mean anything for now but I like it ! ^^

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Originally Posted by Distorted

ayyyyy that is the good plan. info = pro town. SO with my bottle of communism and me I hardclaim claim sheriff. HOWEVER, the confirmed town I am not revealing yet.



no u



something about fish'n'chips i really hope. that honestly sounds incredible right now.


ANWYAS, with that said we shall get to this tomorrow. I expect doc to stay on me though. gives us at least a day or 2.

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hi second sheriff ! can you just say I am also confirmed please? Could be nice to have two sheriffs backing me ! Specialy when there is only one sheriff.

Plus...no doc, only one sheriff and full shitizens !

By the way, wordreference just told me 'goon' mean 'stupid' :D
Host, you are quite mean with scums.

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Originally Posted by Lenneth

By the way, wordreference just told me 'goon' mean 'stupid' :D
Host, you are quite mean with scums.

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I always thought saying mafia mafioso was a confusing mouthful.

the trolling is strong with this one

why da fuck yall have vote lists anyway before like half the people even posted

smfh

@Voss is it 5 votes when everyone has posted a vote??? meaning, will the day end when everyone posts their lists?

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Originally Posted by Ratatoskr

Okay, only 37 replies I can do this. Sorry I remembered this was a thing earlier today and then promptly forgot again.

-vote Distorted

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Originally Posted by naz

@Voss is it 5 votes when everyone has posted a vote??? meaning, will the day end when everyone posts their lists?

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I'll manually change it to 9, since people who haven't made up their mind could still influence who ultimately gets lynched.

While I'm trying to avoid a quick hammer scenario, I also don't want to needlessly prolong the day if y'alls minds are set. When I notice that the #1 spot can't be changed by people who haven't locked in their vote, I'll announce it, and end the day in the next hour or so. But how I see this game progressing, I don't think this is ever going to happen. If anyone has concerns with this, feel free to PM me, because I'm not trying to screw with anyone.

And if you were relying on quick hammer to win... bye!

9 votes to hammer.

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Originally Posted by naz

the trolling is strong with this one

why da fuck yall have vote lists anyway before like half the people even posted

smfh

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voting people is how we have always pressured, this is incredibly common in FM :thinking:

which btw, let's start making a list!

allright...........how do we do this.............................................. .................................

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,ratatoskr,dutes,lenneth,blinkskater,naz, marshmallowmarshall,efekannn02

this is not a list of reads just testing the vote function, and seeing if i can vote for myself =P lol

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Originally Posted by Distorted

voting people is how we have always pressured, this is incredibly common in FM :thinking:

which btw, let's start making a list!

allright...........how do we do this.............................................. .................................

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,ratatoskr,dutes,lenneth,blinkskater,naz, marshmallowmarshall,efekannn02

this is not a list of reads just testing the vote function, and seeing if i can vote for myself =P lol

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Yup, on this site https://narrator.systeminplace.net/condorcet.html I just turned into the most voted person =P so you ARE able to vote yourself!!!

So, on this setup I think rather than the normal 'personally pressuring' someone, we kinda push people together. So this means we will have to be active throughout the day. It does not need to be the same like "informative" posting all day - but just interacting and figuring out who to lynch kinda discussion. I am ok for an innactive lynch (always am, always will be) if we get no better leads.

@rumox whats your take on what lenneth claimed and how he went about it?



make sure everyone keeps the votecount list open, and just refreshing it.

lol


Posts 20 rumox

Posts 18 Marshmallow Marshall

Posts 12 Ratatoskr

Posts 8 Voss

Posts 6 blinkskater

Posts 6 Distorted

Posts 4 Dutes

Posts 4 naz

Posts 3 Lenneth

Posts 3 Efekannn02

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Originally Posted by Distorted

lol


Posts 20 rumox

Posts 18 Marshmallow Marshall

Posts 12 Ratatoskr

Posts 8 Voss

Posts 6 blinkskater

Posts 6 Distorted

Posts 4 Dutes

Posts 4 naz

Posts 3 Lenneth

Posts 3 Efekannn02

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@Efekannn02 @Lenneth @naz @Dutes @Distorted @blinkskater we all have less posts than the host.

@Dutes , since you are on and most voted person if i remove the vote on myself - what do you think of @rumox reaction to @Marshmallow Marshall s and @Lenneth claiming scum =P

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Originally Posted by Distorted

@Dutes , since you are on and most voted person if i remove the vote on myself - what do you think of @rumox reaction to @Marshmallow Marshall s and @Lenneth claiming scum =P

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thats horribly worded.

@Dutes what do you think of

1) MM hardclaiming sheriff, then rumox's reaction to it.

2) Lenneth claiming scum

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Originally Posted by Distorted

voting people is how we have always pressured, this is incredibly common in FM :thinking:

which btw, let's start making a list!

allright...........how do we do this.............................................. .................................

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,ratatoskr,dutes,lenneth,blinkskater,naz, marshmallowmarshall,efekannn02

this is not a list of reads just testing the vote function, and seeing if i can vote for myself =P lol

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then i think we should use the old school vote to pressure people, and save the lists for when we want to close the thread? because if we all use

-vote your mom

we can't close the thread since he changed it to 9. at least for me because there's no way i'm reading that website on how this voting system works, i'm just gonna use his little website to vote lol

Using the vote tags for a singular person and putting that person at the top of your vote list are equivalent (though my vote counter can't pick vote tags up).

Furthermore, if 5 people have the same singular person at the top of their vote list, it doesn't matter how what the other 4 people vote, nor does it matter what what the original 5 have as their next 8.

If people think I should stay out of this, feel free to let me know privately!

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Originally Posted by Distorted

thats horribly worded.

@Dutes what do you think of

1) MM hardclaiming sheriff, then rumox's reaction to it.

2) Lenneth claiming scum

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MM is trying to lure mafia shot's. I think he is citizen. It would be way to bold to claim sheriff D1 as scum.

Lenneth's reaction is to troll. He would probably not do that is he was scum. It's a bit risky.

I don't think Lenneth likes to play risky.

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Originally Posted by Voss

Using the vote tags for a singular person and putting that person at the top of your vote list are equivalent (though my vote counter can't pick vote tags up).

Furthermore, if 5 people have the same singular person at the top of their vote list, it doesn't matter how what the other 4 people vote, nor does it matter what what the original 5 have as their next 8.

If people think I should stay out of this, feel free to let me know privately!

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i think u should send noods

the thing is for me i just have no idea when someone is about to get hammered, y'know?

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Originally Posted by naz

i think u should send noods

the thing is for me i just have no idea when someone is about to get hammered, y'know?

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Assuming we're not talking about quick hammering, the person at the top of the 'consensus' list will be lynched at EoD. I think the strategy (town or mafia) is to get other people to highly rank your scum reads. And the benefit/point for this is, its similar to having multiple lynch trains. As of this post, Distorted, Dutes and Lenneth would be the top lynch trains, with Distorted leading.

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Originally Posted by Voss

Assuming we're not talking about quick hammering, the person at the top of the 'consensus' list will be lynched at EoD. I think the strategy (town or mafia) is to get other people to highly their your scum reads. And the benefit/point for this is, its similar to having multiple lynch trains. As of this post, Distorted, Dutes and Lenneth would be the top lynch trains, with Distorted leading.

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fixed

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Originally Posted by Voss

Assuming we're not talking about quick hammering, the person at the top of the 'consensus' list will be lynched at EoD. I think the strategy (town or mafia) is to get other people to highly rank your scum reads. And the benefit/point for this is, its similar to having multiple lynch trains. As of this post, Distorted, Dutes and Lenneth would be the top lynch trains, with Distorted leading.

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so day won't end early ever from number of votes? with the exception of us all coming to agreement on a lynch and wanting to end day

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Originally Posted by Voss

fixed

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boiiiii u just made that sentence make less sense lol

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Originally Posted by Dutes

MM is trying to lure mafia shot's. I think he is citizen. It would be way to bold to claim sheriff D1 as scum.

Lenneth's reaction is to troll. He would probably not do that is he was scum. It's a bit risky.

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Yep, MM is luring scums...sorry goons !

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Originally Posted by Dutes

I don't think Lenneth likes to play risky.

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Right.

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Originally Posted by naz

so day won't end early ever from number of votes? with the exception of us all coming to agreement on a lynch and wanting to end day

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nope

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Originally Posted by Dutes

I am really in favor of randoming someone silent day 1.

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The first thing I see when I log on today... What about no? lol...